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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Anyone with any comments? I don't know much about them but it doesn't sound like the way forwards to me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same sex marriage to be banned in UK

Everyone to be given a free biomass boiler then paid to keep her lit

every home in UK must now have union Jack on display 24/7

abortion to be banned uk wide...

And any form if fun at all will be made illegal...

Oh and kids from age 4 must listen to the collected sermons of the blessed leader...

Hope you got a better idea now

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz "

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship... "

Argh feck that - i hate religion more than i hate Christmas

Slithers back under the duvet...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Man from del Monte still says Yes...and he's an orange man

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By *odernLoveDublinMan
over a year ago

dublin

Dont forget we all have to cover the sides of our pavements in Aquafresh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Conservative Unionist Negotiation Team. If only there was an abbreviation for that.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship...

Argh feck that - i hate religion more than i hate Christmas

Slithers back under the duvet..."

follows...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Conservative Unionist Negotiation Team. If only there was an abbreviation for that.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship...

Argh feck that - i hate religion more than i hate Christmas

Slithers back under the duvet... follows... "

Will we be tarred & feathered for such behaviour?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship...

Argh feck that - i hate religion more than i hate Christmas

Slithers back under the duvet... follows...

Will we be tarred & feathered for such behaviour?"

Mr says at the very least spanked...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship... "

Jeez....if only they were that liberal.

They don't like pleasurable stuff anytime...

If they are the answer we are all fucked...

They will try to ban that to...

No no no no

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz

Perfect start G, apparently they don't like pleasurable stuff being done on a Sunday...It's a day for worship... "

No more running through wheat field for Theresa then ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"Where do you go to my lovely..."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thanks for letting me know you'd moved this admin....

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of


"Thanks for letting me know you'd moved this admin.... "

It's bizarre and uncalled for to say the least!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They will get the upper hand cos they dont support gay marriage and want a soft brexit, so may have give in to their views lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Off to the politics forum with you candy don't ruin my Sunday buzz "
I prefer it in the lounge cos we get more views instead of just few.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Awful excuse for an intelligent leadership ploy - desperate woman to retain power.

Against women's rights and equality - says the most about swivel eyed types.

Worse, this government here needs to ensure that the NI government is not hamstrung by UK government not retaining a neutral stance with all parties there. The peace process was hard won and Mays greed should not be allowed to damage it.

Any decent party would not want to have much association with a caustic party, unless that party implemented equality laws and significant changes for some years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't see how the Tories can come out of this any worse really, it's one step up from siding with the likes of the BNP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Uneducated f**kwit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't see how the Tories can come out of this any worse really, it's one step up from siding with the likes of the BNP."
hmmmm the DUP could make the BNP seem quite liberal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't see how the Tories can come out of this any worse really, it's one step up from siding with the likes of the BNP. hmmmm the DUP could make the BNP seem quite liberal "
I think the BNP arent thick enough to suggest god created the world in 7 days and want to teach that bullshit to kids..

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"Uneducated f**kwit "

Are you claiming that the DUP arent a bunch of knuckledragging, window licking, terrorist supporting, gay hating, creationist, sectarian, anti abortion, fenian hating, halfwits?

Or are you arguing that having the entire UK future placed on the hands of a party which got fewer than 300,000 votes is democracy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a car crash just wait until start trying to put pressure on the Tories with threats of withholding support

Brexit will fall apart

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are."

I agree with you about LGBT and abortion views but I don't think you're right that any of their MPs are creationists although some of their members are. As are some members of the SNP and Labour party as well as Sinn Fein and Alliance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are.

I agree with you about LGBT and abortion views but I don't think you're right that any of their MPs are creationists although some of their members are. As are some members of the SNP and Labour party as well as Sinn Fein and Alliance."

Mervyn Storey sits on the council of the Caleb Society!! ... there are DUP politicians who are then members of the Caleb Society, such as Davis Simpson, Edwin Poots and a number of others. They've been pushing for creationism to be taught in schools in northern ireland.

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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago

Chester

There are millions of people all over the world who believe in creationism. If you just make it belief in a god then it becomes billions. The joy of being free is that people can believe whatever crap they want without breaking laws or forcing their views on others.

Read the rest of the politics forum to see some truly bizarre crap that people believe (me included, I believe we could actually have an election campaign conducted on issues not insults but then, I'm mad).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are."

Always makes me laugh about creationists as they can never explain all of these fossils and bones come from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the DUP are attempting to force their creationist views on others by demanding it be included in the school curriculum and places like the NT visitor centre at Giants Causway etc ... this is why so many people are being so vocal. It's because the minority views of the DUP will in all probabilty end up being foisted onto the entire country which will make huge societal changes on a religous basis.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"the DUP are attempting to force their creationist views on others by demanding it be included in the school curriculum and places like the NT visitor centre at Giants Causway etc ... this is why so many people are being so vocal. It's because the minority views of the DUP will in all probabilty end up being foisted onto the entire country which will make huge societal changes on a religous basis. "

There's a good overview of an organisation called the Caleb Foundation on wikipedia. Somewhat pertinent and shows examples of policy being influenced by religious beliefs.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are.

I agree with you about LGBT and abortion views but I don't think you're right that any of their MPs are creationists although some of their members are. As are some members of the SNP and Labour party as well as Sinn Fein and Alliance.

Mervyn Storey sits on the council of the Caleb Society!! ... there are DUP politicians who are then members of the Caleb Society, such as Davis Simpson, Edwin Poots and a number of others. They've been pushing for creationism to be taught in schools in northern ireland."

But none of them are MPs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are.

I agree with you about LGBT and abortion views but I don't think you're right that any of their MPs are creationists although some of their members are. As are some members of the SNP and Labour party as well as Sinn Fein and Alliance.

Mervyn Storey sits on the council of the Caleb Society!! ... there are DUP politicians who are then members of the Caleb Society, such as Davis Simpson, Edwin Poots and a number of others. They've been pushing for creationism to be taught in schools in northern ireland. But none of them are MPs. "

look again .... David simpson mp for upper bann, gregory campbell mp for east londonderry ... plenty of MLA's too, but you choose to ingnore the fact that they are elected politicians

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are.

I agree with you about LGBT and abortion views but I don't think you're right that any of their MPs are creationists although some of their members are. As are some members of the SNP and Labour party as well as Sinn Fein and Alliance.

Mervyn Storey sits on the council of the Caleb Society!! ... there are DUP politicians who are then members of the Caleb Society, such as Davis Simpson, Edwin Poots and a number of others. They've been pushing for creationism to be taught in schools in northern ireland. But none of them are MPs.

look again .... David simpson mp for upper bann, gregory campbell mp for east londonderry ... plenty of MLA's too, but you choose to ingnore the fact that they are elected politicians "

East Londonderry is the constituency for Limavady..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't see how the Tories can come out of this any worse really, it's one step up from siding with the likes of the BNP. hmmmm the DUP could make the BNP seem quite liberal I think the BNP arent thick enough to suggest god created the world in 7 days and want to teach that bullshit to kids.."

Very true

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By *eisurepleasureMan
over a year ago

belfast

The dup are mostly all good living

They want to pass to heaven and worship god when they kick the bucket

Heaven should be wonderful then NOT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work "

It's gonna be beautiful, just beautiful

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work

It's gonna be beautiful, just beautiful "

I'm sitting here wondering if the Sinn Fein Not-MPs might be thinking of taking up their seats.

That would be very interesting...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work

It's gonna be beautiful, just beautiful

I'm sitting here wondering if the Sinn Fein Not-MPs might be thinking of taking up their seats.

That would be very interesting..."

seeing as how mrs maygabe has announced it's ok to go into coalition with the political wing of terror groups....

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work

It's gonna be beautiful, just beautiful

I'm sitting here wondering if the Sinn Fein Not-MPs might be thinking of taking up their seats.

That would be very interesting...

seeing as how mrs maygabe has announced it's ok to go into coalition with the political wing of terror groups.... "

You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work

It's gonna be beautiful, just beautiful

I'm sitting here wondering if the Sinn Fein Not-MPs might be thinking of taking up their seats.

That would be very interesting...

seeing as how mrs maygabe has announced it's ok to go into coalition with the political wing of terror groups....

You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

"

Hardly surprising. New Labour was just Conservative Lite.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Where to begin - aside from their terrible LGBT and abortion views - the very fact some of the 10 elected MPs believe in creationism (that the earth is only 4000 years old) should be enough to tell the casual observer what sort of party they are.

Always makes me laugh about creationists as they can never explain all of these fossils and bones come from "

Apparently they don't believe in dinosaurs...but then they haven't met the Tory front bench yet.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Is it so bad to believe in God and religion as some here think and to promote that belief to others ? Is it wrong to believe that same sex relationships are wrong ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then."

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

were to join a party that want us to be taught creationism .that god made the earth in 7 days ??? and have links to terrorists

The Torys have so lost the plot We need a new election to rid ourselves of these nuts

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"The DUP are already dragging things down, queen speach now looks to be delayed because they are already putting the squeeze on.

Gerry Adams and his croanies are now putting the boot in about not being happy about the coalition.

It ain't going to work

It's gonna be beautiful, just beautiful

I'm sitting here wondering if the Sinn Fein Not-MPs might be thinking of taking up their seats.

That would be very interesting..."

No chance of that, as long as MP's are required to take the ludicrous oath to Brenda, rather than the people, before being allowed to take their seat.

And now it turns out that parliament's opening may be delayed because Brenda's speech must, by tradition, be printed on goatskin vellum, which takes several days to dry!

What a country, steeped in feudalism and meaningless traditions. Probably explains why the oranginas are so determined to hang on to the raj, rather than agree to the logical reunification with a more modern Republic of Ireland.

Ulster's politics is trapped in the traditions of the 17th century, while its social outlook is burdened by the doctrines of the old testament's nomads.

This is the tail that wants to wag the dog during the next parliament. FFS!

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"

I'm sitting here wondering if the Sinn Fein Not-MPs might be thinking of taking up their seats.

"

They get Stephen Rea to voice the oaths for them


"And now it turns out that parliament's opening may be delayed because Brenda's speech must, by tradition, be printed on goatskin vellum, which takes several days to dry!"

Actually they use vellum because its a terrifically robust and long lasting archive material, there are vellum parchments in the parliamentary archives from 500 years ago that are still perfectly fine today, whereas no digital material from that era survives at all.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?"

I never said that it was right or wrong. Just reminding those with selective blindness, that deals with minority parties have always been done to suit the agendas of the large parties. And minority parties will always relish the chance to play "kingmaker"; look at the Greens in Scotland.

If you had such outrage with the DUP, then why not make it clear before the GE? Northern Ireland has had a peaceful devolved Goverment in place since 2007 and now people want to use the words "sectarian terrorism" to push their own political agendas. History will judge Northern Ireland, not you or me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?

I never said that it was right or wrong. Just reminding those with selective blindness, that deals with minority parties have always been done to suit the agendas of the large parties. And minority parties will always relish the chance to play "kingmaker"; look at the Greens in Scotland.

If you had such outrage with the DUP, then why not make it clear before the GE? Northern Ireland has had a peaceful devolved Goverment in place since 2007 and now people want to use the words "sectarian terrorism" to push their own political agendas. History will judge Northern Ireland, not you or me.

"

i doubt you've even set foot in northern ireland

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?

I never said that it was right or wrong. Just reminding those with selective blindness, that deals with minority parties have always been done to suit the agendas of the large parties. And minority parties will always relish the chance to play "kingmaker"; look at the Greens in Scotland.

If you had such outrage with the DUP, then why not make it clear before the GE? Northern Ireland has had a peaceful devolved Goverment in place since 2007 and now people want to use the words "sectarian terrorism" to push their own political agendas. History will judge Northern Ireland, not you or me.

i doubt you've even set foot in northern ireland "

And what relevance does that have?

And I have travelled extensively over all the land of Ireland, south and north.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?

I never said that it was right or wrong. Just reminding those with selective blindness, that deals with minority parties have always been done to suit the agendas of the large parties. And minority parties will always relish the chance to play "kingmaker"; look at the Greens in Scotland.

If you had such outrage with the DUP, then why not make it clear before the GE? Northern Ireland has had a peaceful devolved Goverment in place since 2007 and now people want to use the words "sectarian terrorism" to push their own political agendas. History will judge Northern Ireland, not you or me.

i doubt you've even set foot in northern ireland

And what relevance does that have?

And I have travelled extensively over all the land of Ireland, south and north. "

i actually lived there so don't presume to lecture me about voicing my opinions of the various political factions and their terror groups ... go google warzone collective and learn something for a change

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?

I never said that it was right or wrong. Just reminding those with selective blindness, that deals with minority parties have always been done to suit the agendas of the large parties. And minority parties will always relish the chance to play "kingmaker"; look at the Greens in Scotland.

If you had such outrage with the DUP, then why not make it clear before the GE? Northern Ireland has had a peaceful devolved Goverment in place since 2007 and now people want to use the words "sectarian terrorism" to push their own political agendas. History will judge Northern Ireland, not you or me.

i doubt you've even set foot in northern ireland

And what relevance does that have?

And I have travelled extensively over all the land of Ireland, south and north.

i actually lived there so don't presume to lecture me about voicing my opinions of the various political factions and their terror groups ... go google warzone collective and learn something for a change"

I'm lecturing no one. The problem that you have is, that when confronted by actual hard facts, you retreat into hostility mode.

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By *dd269Man
over a year ago

Clee

The "more modern "Republic of Ireland" still gives its loyalty to the Pope in Rome.

If Eire were to truly modernise and disenfranchise the Church, and become a true secular Republic - perhaps then North and South might be re-united?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You do remember who the Labour party formed an alliance with in 2008, in order to get the 42 day terrorism act through parliament?

And who Gordon Brown approached in 2010 in a desperate bid to hold onto a Labour government?

I guess not? Best go and check it out then.

yet another forumite who firmly believes two wrongs make a right. what is it with you people who think because previous people do stupid shit then it's ok for peole who follow them to do the same stupid shit?

I never said that it was right or wrong. Just reminding those with selective blindness, that deals with minority parties have always been done to suit the agendas of the large parties. And minority parties will always relish the chance to play "kingmaker"; look at the Greens in Scotland.

If you had such outrage with the DUP, then why not make it clear before the GE? Northern Ireland has had a peaceful devolved Goverment in place since 2007 and now people want to use the words "sectarian terrorism" to push their own political agendas. History will judge Northern Ireland, not you or me.

i doubt you've even set foot in northern ireland

And what relevance does that have?

And I have travelled extensively over all the land of Ireland, south and north.

i actually lived there so don't presume to lecture me about voicing my opinions of the various political factions and their terror groups ... go google warzone collective and learn something for a change

I'm lecturing no one. The problem that you have is, that when confronted by actual hard facts, you retreat into hostility mode. "

what hard facts? what the fuck are you on about now? you just stalk me through the forums

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neverrrrrr Neverrrrrrr Neverrrrrrrr. Hopefully they've come a little bit of a way since then. My guess is they have as they seem to have taken all of the seats once held by the more moderate UUP. Like everyone else they've had to modernise and become a little bit less Fascist.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"The "more modern "Republic of Ireland" still gives its loyalty to the Pope in Rome.

If Eire were to truly modernise and disenfranchise the Church, and become a true secular Republic - perhaps then North and South might be re-united?"

Like the secular United Kingdom where the established church is headed up by the Queen? The grip of the catholic church in the ROI is a thing of the past

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Is it so bad to believe in God and religion as some here think and to promote that belief to others ? Is it wrong to believe that same sex relationships are wrong ?"

Um, yes I think it is wrong. Especially when those people try to foist their beliefs on others (i.e. as in blocking legislation).

There's no evidence that "god" or whoever, has anything against this. The words of "god" have always (handily) been written down by the blokes in charge.

I would suggest that what evidence there is, shows that Jesus bloke to be a very tolerant and loving person, to everyone.

Just because these people are stuck in the thinking and politics of the dark ages, has no relevance to what anyone else should be able to do (even within their own religion).

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Is it so bad to believe in God and religion as some here think and to promote that belief to others ? Is it wrong to believe that same sex relationships are wrong ?

Um, yes I think it is wrong. Especially when those people try to foist their beliefs on others (i.e. as in blocking legislation).

There's no evidence that "god" or whoever, has anything against this. The words of "god" have always (handily) been written down by the blokes in charge.

I would suggest that what evidence there is, shows that Jesus bloke to be a very tolerant and loving person, to everyone.

Just because these people are stuck in the thinking and politics of the dark ages, has no relevance to what anyone else should be able to do (even within their own religion).

"

But that is the point of democracy, there is debate and discussioin and then decision and the majority view wins, those that disagree have a choice, either except the view of others or produce a better argument and wait for the next opportunity to change the law.

In NI the majority view is that abortion and being gay is wrong, until the majority change their mind and the law changes those that disagree have to accept it, calling people names and saying they live in the dark ages etc isnt improving their argument it smacks of being dictatorial and undemocratic. Personally I dont mind if people want to be gay good luck to them and there are good reasons for allowing abortionsbut I totally accept others hold very different and equally valid views

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Is it so bad to believe in God and religion as some here think and to promote that belief to others ? Is it wrong to believe that same sex relationships are wrong ?

Um, yes I think it is wrong. Especially when those people try to foist their beliefs on others (i.e. as in blocking legislation).

There's no evidence that "god" or whoever, has anything against this. The words of "god" have always (handily) been written down by the blokes in charge.

I would suggest that what evidence there is, shows that Jesus bloke to be a very tolerant and loving person, to everyone.

Just because these people are stuck in the thinking and politics of the dark ages, has no relevance to what anyone else should be able to do (even within their own religion).

But that is the point of democracy, there is debate and discussioin and then decision and the majority view wins, those that disagree have a choice, either except the view of others or produce a better argument and wait for the next opportunity to change the law.

In NI the majority view is that abortion and being gay is wrong, until the majority change their mind and the law changes those that disagree have to accept it, calling people names and saying they live in the dark ages etc isnt improving their argument it smacks of being dictatorial and undemocratic. Personally I dont mind if people want to be gay good luck to them and there are good reasons for allowing abortionsbut I totally accept others hold very different and equally valid views"

No, I am going to have to disagree. Not a relatively long time ago, it was illegal to be gay in this country.

Not long before that, it was legal to own a slave, or have sex with children etc.

Very often when legislation was brought in it was against the majority of the population. Sometimes the leaders in a society have to force changes that make it better for people in that society, whether the majority want it or not.

I am pretty sure that today the majority of people would be for capital punishment for some crimes. But it won't happen, because most MPs are against this.

People are allowed to think what they like, but that does not make those views "equally valid".

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By *dd269Man
over a year ago

Clee

Both Eire and UK have religion enshrined in the state - and they both need to be dis-enfranchised, so that we can form a secular partnership either inside or outside of the EU.

The Catholic/Protestant divide should be relegated to history, where it belongs.

The Good Friday Agreement must prevail!

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady


"Both Eire and UK have religion enshrined in the state - and they both need to be dis-enfranchised, so that we can form a secular partnership either inside or outside of the EU.

The Catholic/Protestant divide should be relegated to history, where it belongs.

The Good Friday Agreement must prevail!"

People always quote religion as the divide in Northern Ireland but it's really race. There are those that consider themselves Irish and those that consider themselves British. These two groups are largely the same as Catholic and Protestant.

The state does not enshrine religion anymore than the rest of UK but there is a strong religious element in political parties policies. I don't disagree with the basic tenet of your post but maybe cleared up some points.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed. "

Dream on. This is a long way from being over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Dream on. This is a long way from being over"

He suffers from confirmation bias.Its incurable.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Dream on. This is a long way from being over"

The tories have a majority with the DUP. This is reality not dreaming.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Dream on. This is a long way from being over

The tories have a majority with the DUP. This is reality not dreaming. "

You sure you're not allowing your hopes to triumph over reality?

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Is it so bad to believe in God and religion as some here think and to promote that belief to others ? Is it wrong to believe that same sex relationships are wrong ?

Um, yes I think it is wrong. Especially when those people try to foist their beliefs on others (i.e. as in blocking legislation).

There's no evidence that "god" or whoever, has anything against this. The words of "god" have always (handily) been written down by the blokes in charge.

I would suggest that what evidence there is, shows that Jesus bloke to be a very tolerant and loving person, to everyone.

Just because these people are stuck in the thinking and politics of the dark ages, has no relevance to what anyone else should be able to do (even within their own religion).

But that is the point of democracy, there is debate and discussioin and then decision and the majority view wins, those that disagree have a choice, either except the view of others or produce a better argument and wait for the next opportunity to change the law.

In NI the majority view is that abortion and being gay is wrong, until the majority change their mind and the law changes those that disagree have to accept it, calling people names and saying they live in the dark ages etc isnt improving their argument it smacks of being dictatorial and undemocratic. Personally I dont mind if people want to be gay good luck to them and there are good reasons for allowing abortionsbut I totally accept others hold very different and equally valid views

No, I am going to have to disagree. Not a relatively long time ago, it was illegal to be gay in this country.

Not long before that, it was legal to own a slave, or have sex with children etc.

Very often when legislation was brought in it was against the majority of the population. Sometimes the leaders in a society have to force changes that make it better for people in that society, whether the majority want it or not.

I am pretty sure that today the majority of people would be for capital punishment for some crimes. But it won't happen, because most MPs are against this.

People are allowed to think what they like, but that does not make those views "equally valid"."

So its the old " I am cleverer than you so I'm right" basis for making decisions, not sure that is valid when we see whats happened in the last few years where the clever people have been shown up often after trying to cover up, everyone is entitled to a view and the majority wins, if you lose you improve your argument not call the winners thick, once you go down this route its a slippery road to big brother ruling for the people as he knows best

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Dream on. This is a long way from being over

The tories have a majority with the DUP. This is reality not dreaming. "

They will have a majority vote with the DUP until they are told no on something then it will all go to pot

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed. "

Very much so I've heard so much diarrhoea come from a human being

Your right he is incurable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Very much so I've heard so much diarrhoea come from a human being

Your right he is incurable "

Record yourself then play it back

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Very much so I've heard so much diarrhoea come from a human being

Your right he is incurable

Record yourself then play it back "

we all rekon your brothers both talk crap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Very much so I've heard so much diarrhoea come from a human being

Your right he is incurable

Record yourself then play it back we all rekon your brothers both talk crap"

Who's all? The comrades?

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Very much so I've heard so much diarrhoea come from a human being

Your right he is incurable

Record yourself then play it back we all rekon your brothers both talk crap

Who's all? The comrades?"

the chuckle brothers they used to try and make people laugh as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the written press today that a senior Tory (Un named) has said the DUP have agreed to fully back Theresa May's brexit plan to leave the single market AND the customs union. Happy days, the last hurrah of the Remoaners at the general election has failed.

Very much so I've heard so much diarrhoea come from a human being

Your right he is incurable

Record yourself then play it back we all rekon your brothers both talk crap

Who's all? The comrades?the chuckle brothers they used to try and make people laugh as well "

So nobody with any sense thinks we're brothers then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're very aligned with organised religion in Northern Ireland, ironically it's a relatively open secret the former leaders son (Peter Robinson) Gareth contracted HIV a few years ago through casual unsafe gay sex , Ian pasily Jr's twin Kyle is also rumoured to be gay and was quietly sent off to do missionary work abroad (although I've heard Kyle is a nice guy, unlike his twin).

The dup receive alot of flack but sf are equally as regressive and bad albeit hidden behind a facade of genteel socialism.

As much as I dislike the dup they are unionists and will probably want to stabilise the nation rather than destabilise and thrust things further into uncertainty.

So many seem eager the kick the establishment with no real idea of what they want or what should prevail if the establishment is destabilised.. if the dup provide some sort of stability that enables politicians to regroup get a better sense of how to beat meet public expectations.. why not.

Those who kick the establishment endlessly should be careful. In Egypt all that did was create a vacuum for one of the most regressive elements to seize control, warp and undermine the system to suit their own perverse agendas.

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin


"Conservative Unionist Negotiation Team. If only there was an abbreviation for that.......

"

acronym

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