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"Rudd got through by the skin of her teeth." Rudd told them to keep recounting till she got the result she wanted | |||
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"Who will replace Teresa May? David Davis? Boris Johnson? Amba Rudd? or A.N. Other?" Hammond, though Dave Davis really fancys himself, not heard much of strong and stable in the speeches | |||
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"Conservatives need all remaining 20 seats for majority, though technucally, as Sinn Fein, with 7 don't take up theur seats, they need 13. Right at the start I said that the election ws Theresa May's to lose and that has pretty much been borne out following a poor conservative campaign. Such a shame" Of course it had to be a poor Tory campaign not a great Corbs one | |||
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"Think it's fair to say that UKIP is finished" I think the SNP are heading that way unless they think they can leverage power within the hung parliament. Which means someone doing a deal for another referendum. | |||
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"Rudd got through by the skin of her teeth." Rudd had around 200 to 300 majority which is massive compared to the Newcastle under Lyme seat where the Labour candidate won by just 30 votes, that's what you call skin of your teeth. | |||
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"Conservatives need all remaining 20 seats for majority, though technucally, as Sinn Fein, with 7 don't take up theur seats, they need 13. Right at the start I said that the election ws Theresa May's to lose and that has pretty much been borne out following a poor conservative campaign. Such a shame Of course it had to be a poor Tory campaign not a great Corbs one" It wasn't a great Corbyn campaign. A great Corbyn campaign would be a Labour majority and he didn't get it. If you think coming 2nd on 266 seats is a great campaign then you must have had very low expectations to begin with. | |||
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"Just think of all those sun/mail/express "Tory landslide" articles now sitting in the recycle folder." Like all those betting slips from the bookies for a Labour win bought by Labour supporters have now ended up in the recycle bin. | |||
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"Conservatives need all remaining 20 seats for majority, though technucally, as Sinn Fein, with 7 don't take up theur seats, they need 13. Right at the start I said that the election ws Theresa May's to lose and that has pretty much been borne out following a poor conservative campaign. Such a shame Of course it had to be a poor Tory campaign not a great Corbs one It wasn't a great Corbyn campaign. A great Corbyn campaign would be a Labour majority and he didn't get it. If you think coming 2nd on 266 seats is a great campaign then you must have had very low expectations to begin with. " Corbs took seats from all parties and added more to the Labour vote since 1945, May's hubrised herself out of a job, Caroline Lucas DOUBLED her majority... meanwhile ukip did their usual thing of not bothering to win a single seat | |||
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"What may has done is shown the eu how weak she is ...junker will be enjoying his coffee this morning " Jean Claude Druncker has Gin for Breakfast. | |||
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"What may has done is shown the eu how weak she is ...junker will be enjoying his coffee this morning Jean Claude Druncker has Gin for Breakfast. " well whatever he's having I'm sure he will enjoy his more than mrs strong and stable will hers | |||
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"Conservatives need all remaining 20 seats for majority, though technucally, as Sinn Fein, with 7 don't take up theur seats, they need 13. Right at the start I said that the election ws Theresa May's to lose and that has pretty much been borne out following a poor conservative campaign. Such a shame Of course it had to be a poor Tory campaign not a great Corbs one It wasn't a great Corbyn campaign. A great Corbyn campaign would be a Labour majority and he didn't get it. If you think coming 2nd on 266 seats is a great campaign then you must have had very low expectations to begin with. Corbs took seats from all parties and added more to the Labour vote since 1945, May's hubrised herself out of a job, Caroline Lucas DOUBLED her majority... meanwhile ukip did their usual thing of not bothering to win a single seat" May has also took seats from all parties (SNP, Lab, Ukip and Lib dems). Ukip won a seat in the 2015 general election in case you forgot and won outright the last European MEP elections. Caroline Lucas was helped by the Lib dems who didn't put up a candidate in her constituency of Brighton, so pretty obvious she would increase her majority. | |||
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" May has also took seats from all parties (SNP, Lab, Ukip and Lib dems)." ...and still finished the night with less than she started with hahahahaha "Ukip won a seat in the 2015 general election in case you forgot " They bought an incumbent...and even then couldn't keep him for 2yrs before he walked out "Caroline Lucas was helped by the Lib dems who didn't put up a candidate in her constituency of Brighton, so pretty obvious she would increase her majority. " Lib Dems are the 5th party in Brighton Pavilion, so if you think the lack of a lib dem candidate and their 3% of the vote (1500 ballots) helped Lucus to her 50% vote share (30,000 ballots) then it's no surprise you fall for the Tory economic bullshit, is it, really | |||
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"Well...... Early results fooled us and the exit polls were broadly right. Corbyns dithering on Brexit seems to have grabbed enough remainers to give him enough gains to totally shaft May. She now has to go.... Wrong to call the pointless election. Delivered a totally crap manifesto (author got to go too!). Headed the worst campaign in the history of politics. Leaves me wondering if remainer May has done this deliberately....our position as a country going into Brexit is now massively undermined. The EU in a position to fuck us over. Is this not just the end of a "hard" brexit....but of any brexit?" Author lost his seat. I had to stop posting when it turned into the usual politics board thread. DUP as partners won't be good for strength or stability really. | |||
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"Theresa May absolutely should NOT stand down. Like we need yet another Prime Minister without a mandate? If she stands down I imagine we will have another election within the year. Meanwhile, the Brexit clock ticks......" The 27 could halt the clock... but why should they given how 'we' have spoken to and about them. All it will mean is leaving with no deal at all and the EU demanding their exit payments. | |||
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"Well...... Early results fooled us and the exit polls were broadly right. Corbyns dithering on Brexit seems to have grabbed enough remainers to give him enough gains to totally shaft May. She now has to go.... Wrong to call the pointless election. Delivered a totally crap manifesto (author got to go too!). Headed the worst campaign in the history of politics. Leaves me wondering if remainer May has done this deliberately....our position as a country going into Brexit is now massively undermined. The EU in a position to fuck us over. Is this not just the end of a "hard" brexit....but of any brexit?" Remainee may lol Some strong stable u turns here already | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. " I think it's fair to say that the SNP expected some losses but I'd agree it was a bad night for them. Still the largest party in Scotland by some margin. Had the SNP NOT called for Indyref 2, I think the result could have been quite different. | |||
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"Theresa May absolutely should NOT stand down. Like we need yet another Prime Minister without a mandate? If she stands down I imagine we will have another election within the year. Meanwhile, the Brexit clock ticks......" . Tick tock tick tock.. The middle classes are reaping the world wind they were so happy to push onto the working classes for 40 years. You've got nobody to blame but yourselves | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. I think it's fair to say that the SNP expected some losses but I'd agree it was a bad night for them. Still the largest party in Scotland by some margin. Had the SNP NOT called for Indyref 2, I think the result could have been quite different." Certainly cost Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson big time! | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. I think it's fair to say that the SNP expected some losses but I'd agree it was a bad night for them. Still the largest party in Scotland by some margin. Had the SNP NOT called for Indyref 2, I think the result could have been quite different." . I think your right!. | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. I think it's fair to say that the SNP expected some losses but I'd agree it was a bad night for them. Still the largest party in Scotland by some margin. Had the SNP NOT called for Indyref 2, I think the result could have been quite different.. I think your right!. " Although I'm not a Tory supporter, Davidson ran a excellent campaign in Scotland. If she hadn't performed so well, the Tories would have been well and truly fucked. | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. I think it's fair to say that the SNP expected some losses but I'd agree it was a bad night for them. Still the largest party in Scotland by some margin. Had the SNP NOT called for Indyref 2, I think the result could have been quite different.. I think your right!. Although I'm not a Tory supporter, Davidson ran a excellent campaign in Scotland. If she hadn't performed so well, the Tories would have been well and truly fucked." I'd give her the Brexit negotiator job! | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. I think it's fair to say that the SNP expected some losses but I'd agree it was a bad night for them. Still the largest party in Scotland by some margin. Had the SNP NOT called for Indyref 2, I think the result could have been quite different.. I think your right!. Although I'm not a Tory supporter, Davidson ran a excellent campaign in Scotland. If she hadn't performed so well, the Tories would have been well and truly fucked. I'd give her the Brexit negotiator job!" Not in the UK government, though. | |||
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"Well...... Early results fooled us and the exit polls were broadly right. Corbyns dithering on Brexit seems to have grabbed enough remainers to give him enough gains to totally shaft May. She now has to go.... Wrong to call the pointless election. Delivered a totally crap manifesto (author got to go too!). Headed the worst campaign in the history of politics. Leaves me wondering if remainer May has done this deliberately....our position as a country going into Brexit is now massively undermined. The EU in a position to fuck us over. Is this not just the end of a "hard" brexit....but of any brexit? Remainee may lol Some strong stable u turns here already " May campaigned to REMAIN during the referendum. When she became PM she said she would follow the will of the people (majority). My point is she may have been playing a long gain to deliberately fuck up any chance of a real brexit? | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader?" Slight problem with that......she isn't an MP! | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader? Slight problem with that......she isn't an MP!" Leader doesn't have to be an MP. Sturgeon is leader of SNP and not an MP. | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. " Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp | |||
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"Good things: good turnout; more women; 70% youth vote. And hubris getting it's just desserts. " | |||
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"Good things: good turnout; more women; 70% youth vote. And hubris getting it's just desserts. " Apologies for the erroneous apostrophe! It's been a long night and a tablet with its own agenda. | |||
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"Oh what a beautiful morning.A fist in the face of conservativism and the alt reich ...Happy fucking days.. " Again You guys calling it perfect | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp" But this wasn't an election restricted to Scotland, it was a UK wide election and so I found it laughable that Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon were claiming that they had won the election. | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader?" Yep i do Rick | |||
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"Conservatives need all remaining 20 seats for majority, though technucally, as Sinn Fein, with 7 don't take up theur seats, they need 13. Right at the start I said that the election ws Theresa May's to lose and that has pretty much been borne out following a poor conservative campaign. Such a shame Of course it had to be a poor Tory campaign not a great Corbs one It wasn't a great Corbyn campaign. A great Corbyn campaign would be a Labour majority and he didn't get it. If you think coming 2nd on 266 seats is a great campaign then you must have had very low expectations to begin with. " Blah blah, it takes time to educate people -- there's some slow learners out there, ''tis all. I'm thrilled and you can't dampen that. | |||
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"Good things: good turnout; more women; 70% youth vote. And hubris getting it's just desserts. " Yeah! | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader? Slight problem with that......she isn't an MP! Leader doesn't have to be an MP. Sturgeon is leader of SNP and not an MP." But leader of largest party has to be in a position to be PM. PM has to be an MP! | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader? Slight problem with that......she isn't an MP! Leader doesn't have to be an MP. Sturgeon is leader of SNP and not an MP. But leader of largest party has to be in a position to be PM. PM has to be an MP!" It wouldn't be beyond the Tories to shoehorn her into a safe English seat. Like I say, I'm not a Tory but had she been in charge instead of May I think they'd have romped home. | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader? Slight problem with that......she isn't an MP! Leader doesn't have to be an MP. Sturgeon is leader of SNP and not an MP. But leader of largest party has to be in a position to be PM. PM has to be an MP! It wouldn't be beyond the Tories to shoehorn her into a safe English seat. Like I say, I'm not a Tory but had she been in charge instead of May I think they'd have romped home." Presumably she would have turned up to debates and written a proper manifesto which helps | |||
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"Anyone fancy Ruth Davidson as Tory leader? Slight problem with that......she isn't an MP! Leader doesn't have to be an MP. Sturgeon is leader of SNP and not an MP. But leader of largest party has to be in a position to be PM. PM has to be an MP! It wouldn't be beyond the Tories to shoehorn her into a safe English seat. Like I say, I'm not a Tory but had she been in charge instead of May I think they'd have romped home. Presumably she would have turned up to debates and written a proper manifesto which helps" Much as I hate to admit it, she's also got charisma which May badly lacks. | |||
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"Conservatives need all remaining 20 seats for majority, though technucally, as Sinn Fein, with 7 don't take up theur seats, they need 13. Right at the start I said that the election ws Theresa May's to lose and that has pretty much been borne out following a poor conservative campaign. Such a shame Of course it had to be a poor Tory campaign not a great Corbs one It wasn't a great Corbyn campaign. A great Corbyn campaign would be a Labour majority and he didn't get it. If you think coming 2nd on 266 seats is a great campaign then you must have had very low expectations to begin with. Blah blah, it takes time to educate people -- there's some slow learners out there, ''tis all. I'm thrilled and you can't dampen that. " Thrilled!! Wow you must really love opposition. Gordon Brown got 258 seats... Gordon Brown. The Gordon Brown. | |||
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"Good things: good turnout; more women; 70% youth vote. And hubris getting it's just desserts. " Hurbis is the perfect word to describe what has happened. Lesson: the british public don't like being insulted by politicians who don't turn up to debate and can't be arsed to write a proper manifesto. | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp But this wasn't an election restricted to Scotland, it was a UK wide election and so I found it laughable that Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon were claiming that they had won the election." Im pretty sure 34 beats 13 | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp" Their deputy leader and former leader both lost their seats and the party took massive losses elsewhere. Indyref2 also put to bed. Not a great result from where I'm sitting..... | |||
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"Wow, no one predicted the absolute kicking the SNP would take. Seen the exit polls last night and thought they were wrong but they've turned out to be spot on. Salmond, Robertson and Nicolson going has made my day. It could've been worse but they managed to hold on to Fife by 2 seats. Indyref2 is now dead in the water thankfully. Although saying that, I'd hold it tomorrow as it's clear what the result would be with Unionist parties getting over 60% of the vote." The nefife vote is painful for me. Due to family illness I couldn't vote...or it would have been just one!! | |||
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"Wow, no one predicted the absolute kicking the SNP would take. Seen the exit polls last night and thought they were wrong but they've turned out to be spot on. Salmond, Robertson and Nicolson going has made my day. It could've been worse but they managed to hold on to Fife by 2 seats. Indyref2 is now dead in the water thankfully. Although saying that, I'd hold it tomorrow as it's clear what the result would be with Unionist parties getting over 60% of the vote. The nefife vote is painful for me. Due to family illness I couldn't vote...or it would have been just one!! " Pete Wishart winning is hugely disappointing but he scraped through by 21 votes. Unbelievable that despite how bad this was, in realtive terms, for the SNP that they were very very close to losing a further 2 seats. | |||
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"May is expected to go to the Palace to tell the Queen she will form a government later. Pictures of her in wheat fields all over the place." It's going to be hard to control her backbenchers though...with a large number of them wanting her out. | |||
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"May is expected to go to the Palace to tell the Queen she will form a government later. Pictures of her in wheat fields all over the place. It's going to be hard to control her backbenchers though...with a large number of them wanting her out." I've already started to try and work out who she can have in her cabinet, how she can control BoJo and when the next election will be. We're all a bit fucked with any formal agreement with the DUP though. | |||
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"nutall gone......farage back?" The new rebranded UKIP.... | |||
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"nutall gone......farage back?" I would think so. | |||
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"May is expected to go to the Palace to tell the Queen she will form a government later. Pictures of her in wheat fields all over the place. It's going to be hard to control her backbenchers though...with a large number of them wanting her out. I've already started to try and work out who she can have in her cabinet, how she can control BoJo and when the next election will be. We're all a bit fucked with any formal agreement with the DUP though. " She won't last. The tories are just sharepening their knives. She's already dead, she just doesn't know it yet. | |||
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"May is expected to go to the Palace to tell the Queen she will form a government later. Pictures of her in wheat fields all over the place. It's going to be hard to control her backbenchers though...with a large number of them wanting her out. I've already started to try and work out who she can have in her cabinet, how she can control BoJo and when the next election will be. We're all a bit fucked with any formal agreement with the DUP though. " Bojo though he had it in the bag last night.....I was hoping he had too | |||
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"May has got off lightly. Labour would be hard pushed to find a less electable leader than Corbyn, yet still took her majority away. If Corbyn had resigned last week, then Labour would have taken a landslide victory, even without a leader." | |||
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"Well...... Early results fooled us and the exit polls were broadly right. Corbyns dithering on Brexit seems to have grabbed enough remainers to give him enough gains to totally shaft May. She now has to go.... Wrong to call the pointless election. Delivered a totally crap manifesto (author got to go too!). Headed the worst campaign in the history of politics. Leaves me wondering if remainer May has done this deliberately....our position as a country going into Brexit is now massively undermined. The EU in a position to fuck us over. Is this not just the end of a "hard" brexit....but of any brexit?" Yep, she dived. This explains her alienating the grey voters with her cuts. She was always controlled opposition. | |||
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"Brexit might happen but it won't end freedom of movement, contributions or the EUs authority here. The deal will mean that brexit means business as usual, as pre referendum only with a slightly worse deal for the uk as associates rather than members. " Stop it... you're turning me on | |||
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"Brexit might happen but it won't end freedom of movement, contributions or the EUs authority here. The deal will mean that brexit means business as usual, as pre referendum only with a slightly worse deal for the uk as associates rather than members. Stop it... you're turning me on" The results are viagra for remainers.The only thing that will change now is the colour of your passport. . | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp But this wasn't an election restricted to Scotland, it was a UK wide election and so I found it laughable that Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon were claiming that they had won the election. Im pretty sure 34 beats 13 " Alex Salmond didn't even win his own seat! | |||
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"Brexit is happening, like it or not. Article 50 is triggered and there's no way out of Brexit now. The reality of these Brexit "negotiations" are that we never were in a position to negotiate. No conditions were ever agreed when we joined the EU for us or any member state to leave. All we have is Article 50 which basically means we can leave but once we say we are leaving, we are committed to leaving on whatever terms Brussels impose. Are side of the negotiations are basically begging them to go easy on us as we have absolutely no authority to negotiate on anything." Yes, only the European Court of Justice can rule on revoking Article 50 and it has nothing to use to do that. | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp But this wasn't an election restricted to Scotland, it was a UK wide election and so I found it laughable that Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon were claiming that they had won the election. Im pretty sure 34 beats 13 Alex Salmond didn't even win his own seat!" Or Angus Robertson. Their vote was expected to drop but no one expected quite such a collapse. They lost 1/3 of their vote. | |||
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"Brexit might happen but it won't end freedom of movement, contributions or the EUs authority here. The deal will mean that brexit means business as usual, as pre referendum only with a slightly worse deal for the uk as associates rather than members. Stop it... you're turning me on The results are viagra for remainers.The only thing that will change now is the colour of your passport. . " Yup, we're the real winners from last night | |||
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"Theresa May has arrived at the Palace... I wonder if she's doing a Cameron and resigning instead? " Oh don't | |||
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"Theresa May has arrived at the Palace... I wonder if she's doing a Cameron and resigning instead? " She's too stubborn. She needs to be introduced to a nice old tory tradition... | |||
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"Theresa May has arrived at the Palace... I wonder if she's doing a Cameron and resigning instead? She's too stubborn. She needs to be introduced to a nice old tory tradition... " I've just been talking about her stubbornness but the lack of contact with cabinet gives me hope. Anyhoo, only moments to go. She's out and on her way to that podium. | |||
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"Theresa May has arrived at the Palace... I wonder if she's doing a Cameron and resigning instead? She's too stubborn. She needs to be introduced to a nice old tory tradition... I've just been talking about her stubbornness but the lack of contact with cabinet gives me hope. Anyhoo, only moments to go. She's out and on her way to that podium. " She can announce a minority government all she wants but the decision will be taken for her if she won't fall on her sword. She led an embarassing campaign and has nobody to blame but herself. | |||
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"Damn, women just can't win elections can they " I think more men have lost them than women. | |||
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"So she's not then." She's working with the DUP and she's going for it. Ugghhh! | |||
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"Biggest laugh of the night.. The SNP for presuming so much from one previous election?. Really ? In any other country the snps victory would be seen as a massive majority to have nearly 3 times more than tories and 5 times more than labour who fought both their campaign on an anti referendum issue id say thats a great result for the snp But this wasn't an election restricted to Scotland, it was a UK wide election and so I found it laughable that Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon were claiming that they had won the election." no more laughable than Corbyn claiming victory, I may not be the best mathematician but..... | |||
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"I have no dog in the fight either way really. in fact I will admit that despite my objective assessment of EU membership, my best interests would be served marginally better by political and economic circumstances that would be detrimental to the majority but... the momentum for remaining in the EU is unstoppable. The young remainers, with time will replace the largely older brexiters. It's only right really. It's there future. Whatever happens, they will always know that it was their choice. The country voted overwhelmingly for Brexit last night. Tories and the DUP are in favour of Brexit and in case you forgot Labour are also a Brexit party. Corbyn promised to deliver Brexit. Peter Mandelson would be proud of your attempts to spin this but you are out of kilter with the reality.. this was a massive no for hard Brexit.. to say May and Corbyn were talking about the same type of Brexit is beyond parody.. how was your bet with the bookies on a 40 - 60 seat majority..? Corbyn said repeatedly during the televised debates that free movement from the EU must end. The only way he can achieve this is to leave the single market, the EU have made it crystal clear if you stay in the single market you must accept free movement (Corbyn can't do both). Also I never actually said anywhere on here I was placing a bet I only said what the best odds were and that was a 40 -60 Tory majority. I didn't actually put a bet on it myself. " The election's over now, Centaur, you can stop lying about what he said! -Matt | |||
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"Jon Snow has just Twitted the cost of the GE: £130m... of public money. And we'll be spending it all again before 2022. be peanuts to propping up the NI assembly and greasing the Dup's core vote infrastructure.." And peanuts compared to the cost of bailing out the country again had we ended up with 5 years of Corbyn! | |||
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"Jon Snow has just Twitted the cost of the GE: £130m... of public money. And we'll be spending it all again before 2022. be peanuts to propping up the NI assembly and greasing the Dup's core vote infrastructure.." Alas, 'tis true. It's enough for quite a few police officers, or nurses, or teachers for a year. | |||
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"May's making a statement saying she's sorry about the hard working Tories who didn't deserve to lose their seats. she got a bloody nose.... i am just chuffed that they is going to make the tories think twice about the hard brexit wish list, that will have to come off the table now.... also chuffed the young came out last night... because that is going to make the tories think twice now... this is warning the tories got pre negioiation.... imagine if the ukip tory brexiteers wing try to still get what they want.... the next one would be a bloodbath.... plus the torys being propped up by the anti abortion anti gay anti same sex marriage DUP will write all the labour election material for the next few years till it collapses..... " Years? It won't last till Christmas mate. | |||
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"May's making a statement saying she's sorry about the hard working Tories who didn't deserve to lose their seats. she got a bloody nose.... i am just chuffed that they is going to make the tories think twice about the hard brexit wish list, that will have to come off the table now.... also chuffed the young came out last night... because that is going to make the tories think twice now... this is warning the tories got pre negioiation.... imagine if the ukip tory brexiteers wing try to still get what they want.... the next one would be a bloodbath.... plus the torys being propped up by the anti abortion anti gay anti same sex marriage DUP will write all the labour election material for the next few years till it collapses..... " Mao was fond of the young and his little red guards. Young people simply don't have the life experience to know when they are being fed regurgiated failed ideas and they are naturally idealistic. | |||
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"May's making a statement saying she's sorry about the hard working Tories who didn't deserve to lose their seats. When did work become hard work.....just wondering is its a term the tories use a lot. It doesn't seem too long ago when my dad...who was a Labourer in the (now defunct) steel works use to often say "politicians! Not a days hard work in any of them"." Labourer* FIFM | |||
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"May's making a statement saying she's sorry about the hard working Tories who didn't deserve to lose their seats. she got a bloody nose.... i am just chuffed that they is going to make the tories think twice about the hard brexit wish list, that will have to come off the table now.... also chuffed the young came out last night... because that is going to make the tories think twice now... this is warning the tories got pre negioiation.... imagine if the ukip tory brexiteers wing try to still get what they want.... the next one would be a bloodbath.... plus the torys being propped up by the anti abortion anti gay anti same sex marriage DUP will write all the labour election material for the next few years till it collapses..... Years? It won't last till Christmas mate. I am thinking october/november...... the key now is that the big hitting centrists on the labour side have now seen what corbyn can do... and fully now buy in and come back on the front bench.... they run this like a bernie sanders campaign again, next time they are in a position to win because they can now say to young people " you made a difference last time..... imagine if more of you come out and vote...... !!!" i think the tories found out a few things.... you are not going to be able to run on brexit forever.... your leader is not going to be able to duck debates.... your policies are going to have to be costed!!! like i said.. if the tories are seen to be propped up by an anti gay, anti same sex marriage, anti abortion party.... how is that going to play well in the rest of the uk?" Corbyn's campaign, like Saunders', was based on the populist lie that you can have all that you want and, because someone else is going to pay for it, it won't cost you a penny. If his plans were ever implemented it would be economic melt down for the UK. Problem is that the Conservatives can't really play the economically pragmatic and competent card against him while also backing BREXIT which is the most economically disastrous policy sine 1929. | |||
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"Free all the flak Corbs took as a 'terrorist sympathiser' it's the Tories cosying up to a party with paramilitary links Whilst I can't stand DUP they have never backed any terrorist organisation ever." .... and then there is ian paisley and his Third Force movement which was later subsumed into the UDA .... here's some news footage of his threats to use his personal armed paramilitary group .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMpV5jnZhq8 | |||
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