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"It is NIT a decision made by Theresa May. It is made by JTAC. The Terror Action Committe (or something like....). The decision was taken out of political hands several years ago so that ignorant people wouldn't try to score cheap political points. Leave it out!" That about sums it up. To point score over a tragic event  | |||
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"It is NIT a decision made by Theresa May. It is made by JTAC. The Terror Action Committe (or something like....). The decision was taken out of political hands several years ago so that ignorant people wouldn't try to score cheap political points. Leave it out!" 
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"she was clueless as home secretary and she's still clueless now" | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " She was Home Secretary for six years before ending up as PM. She made the cuts to the police in the community that have decimated their ability to gather the intelligence on perpetrators of these crimes before they can be committed. But apparently, despite being warned repeatedly by the police what the effects would be, apparently now 'enough is enough'. Which to Theresa May and Amber Rudd means making our internet less secure with no reason, but not putting any more police back on the streets. She is also planning to cut our armed forces even further. I am truly amazed there is anyone left in the UK who has any confidence in her whatsoever. | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " Threat level Critical can not be maintained indefinitely due to manning capabilities. Imagine you sprinting the 1500m. Doesn't work. It is also about public perception and restoring confidence. | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue "OK point taken about point scoring But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ? How do YOU no this ? You don't Yes she takes advice But it is HER that makes the descion And she got it WRONG | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday She was Home Secretary for six years before ending up as PM. She made the cuts to the police in the community that have decimated their ability to gather the intelligence on perpetrators of these crimes before they can be committed. But apparently, despite being warned repeatedly by the police what the effects would be, apparently now 'enough is enough'. Which to Theresa May and Amber Rudd means making our internet less secure with no reason, but not putting any more police back on the streets. She is also planning to cut our armed forces even further. I am truly amazed there is anyone left in the UK who has any confidence in her whatsoever." | |||
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"I trust her better than Corbin he's wants more to move to UK " Does he? You should let him know, he seems to be completely unaware of the fact. And it's Corbyn, by the way. Putting your trust in a proven failure is a very odd thing to do. | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG "Do you think if the threat level had of remained at severe, last nights attack wouldn't have happened? | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday She was Home Secretary for six years before ending up as PM. She made the cuts to the police in the community that have decimated their ability to gather the intelligence on perpetrators of these crimes before they can be committed. But apparently, despite being warned repeatedly by the police what the effects would be, apparently now 'enough is enough'. Which to Theresa May and Amber Rudd means making our internet less secure with no reason, but not putting any more police back on the streets. She is also planning to cut our armed forces even further. I am truly amazed there is anyone left in the UK who has any confidence in her whatsoever." .people have lost their lives now is not the time to have a go at people .its about time we all stood up against the terrorists | |||
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"And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick " but it's ok for mrs maygabe to use these recent terrorist incidents to sway political opinion by telling the public that labour would leave us vulnerable to a terrorist threat etc etc ..... i see | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG
Do you think if the threat level had of remained at severe, last nights attack wouldn't have happened?"I don't no and guess what ??? NEITHER DO YOU But one thing is likely More lives could have been saved if the armed forces were patrolling the bridge May have even prevented the terrorists Who knows Look She made the wrong descion Period | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG "Sorry, you are getting it wrong! It has been clearly spelled out in the Media in recent weeks that the PM has no direct influence in how the security threats are judged. As previously mentioned, these levels are determined by a group of Security Services and other representative experts. The PM in power merely delivers their decision. Simples! | |||
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"And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick but it's ok for mrs maygabe to use these recent terrorist incidents to sway political opinion by telling the public that labour would leave us vulnerable to a terrorist threat etc etc ..... i see" That was said before this latest attack about military spending. But happy to be corrected if you give me a source she said it afterwards? Or are you just making bollocks up to make yourself sound believable? | |||
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"Please can everyone stop being ignorant about British politics. One person doesn't call the shots.. She is the leader of a party. She never cut police levels or reduce the threat level. The government did with more knowledge and information that we could possibly know. The p.m doesn't sit on a throne shouting orders out! And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick " She was the Home Secretary for 6 years. She called the shots. What's sick is trying to get people to pretend she does not bear responsibility for her actions, the actions that have made the lives of each of us far less safe, and once again contributed to horrible, senseless deaths. That's what's sick. | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG
Do you think if the threat level had of remained at severe, last nights attack wouldn't have happened?
I don't no and guess what ???
NEITHER DO YOU
But one thing is likely
More lives could have been saved if the armed forces were patrolling the bridge
May have even prevented the terrorists
Who knows
Look
She made the wrong descion
Period "They would need armed forces patrolling EVERY street and EVERY building in the country. Threat level makes no difference. "Highly fucking likely" would be more appropriate. Won't change anything though will it. | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG
Sorry, you are getting it wrong!
It has been clearly spelled out in the Media in recent weeks that the PM has no direct influence in how the security threats are judged.
As previously mentioned, these levels are determined by a group of Security Services and other representative experts.
The PM in power merely delivers their decision.
Simples!"No - she makes the descion Advisors are advisors If she didn't make the descion then I'm sure we would no You can have the last word but we are going round in circles here I'm not going to reply to you | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG
Do you think if the threat level had of remained at severe, last nights attack wouldn't have happened?
I don't no and guess what ???
NEITHER DO YOU
But one thing is likely
More lives could have been saved if the armed forces were patrolling the bridge
May have even prevented the terrorists
Who knows
Look
She made the wrong descion
Period "No, I don't but arguing about the rights and wrongs of the terror level seems petty at best. Having armed forces or armed police patrolling the streets is a nice idea but ensuring they are in the right place at the right time is going to be the trickiest bit. I don't believe these terrorists are particularly well planned in attacks like these, they'll drive round aimlessly until they find a crowd of vulnerable people, for this kind of terrorism I have no idea how you really mitigate against it and I find that really rather frightening. | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue
OK point taken about point scoring
But you say any prime minister would have reduced the threat level ?
How do YOU no this ?
You don't
Yes she takes advice
But it is HER that makes the descion
And she got it WRONG
Do you think if the threat level had of remained at severe, last nights attack wouldn't have happened?
I don't no and guess what ???
NEITHER DO YOU
But one thing is likely
More lives could have been saved if the armed forces were patrolling the bridge
May have even prevented the terrorists
Who knows
Look
She made the wrong descion
Period
No, I don't but arguing about the rights and wrongs of the terror level seems petty at best. Having armed forces or armed police patrolling the streets is a nice idea but ensuring they are in the right place at the right time is going to be the trickiest bit.
I don't believe these terrorists are particularly well planned in attacks like these, they'll drive round aimlessly until they find a crowd of vulnerable people, for this kind of terrorism I have no idea how you really mitigate against it and I find that really rather frightening."You mitigate against it by having a force of community police officers who know the area, know the people, and gather intelligence to inform them of who may want to carry out such an attack. Theresa May, as Home Secretary, decimated our community policing resources. When the police warned her this would make us less safe, she accused them of 'scaremongering'. | |||
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"Would changing the threat level prevented the attack or increased the impressive response time? However The lack of Police numbers rest solely on her shoulders. " | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " Yeah. Vote for the marxists so we call all have a few retro years just like the 1970's. I''m dusting off my loons and afghan coat. | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " You mean you had faith in her before? | |||
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"Threat levels mean nothing. Had she not reduced it, what difference would it have made? Unless she banned vans from being driven and banned people from going out, or had everywhere crawling with more soldiers than the whole world has, let alone the UK, how do you stop maniacs in a van from running people down and then jumping out and attacking them with knives?"
I'm getting fed up of people saying more should be done. They are trying. How the fuck can they stop idiots with vans and knives? | |||
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"It is NIT a decision made by Theresa May. It is made by JTAC. The Terror Action Committe (or something like....). The decision was taken out of political hands several years ago so that ignorant people wouldn't try to score cheap political points. Leave it out! That about sums it up. To point score over a tragic event "I seem to recall after 7/7 a certain mp stating "it's a good day to hide bad news".. Cannot recall who said it, but it wouldn't be unlike any political party to use an event like last night's to political point score.. Perhaps that's why all parties have postponed campaigns for one day, all except ukip.. Take from that what you may.. | |||
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"I trust her better than Corbin he's wants more to move to UK Does he? You should let him know, he seems to be completely unaware of the fact. And it's Corbyn, by the way. Putting your trust in a proven failure is a very odd thing to do." Jezza not committed to putting a number on immigration Shame as if he got tough on this he would walk Thursday election | |||
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"Everyone will have their own opinions but for me it's really about what is truly important to you. I know plenty of teachers, medical staff and police... Whilst their political views differ, they are all clear in their thoughts that this government has decimated our services and will continue to do so Labour may not have all the answers but their manifesto certainly seems to place greater emphasis on improving our public services. Financially the tories look after me better... However if I have to pay a little bit more tax so my family and friends have access to the NHS then I'm happy to do so... The majority of us were brought into this world with the help of NHS midwives so we shouldn't turn our back on them now. Very well said We would all give more to protect our way of life's Unfortunately those that have the wealth don't want to pay anything at all " | |||
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"And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick but it's ok for mrs maygabe to use these recent terrorist incidents to sway political opinion by telling the public that labour would leave us vulnerable to a terrorist threat etc etc ..... i see That was said before this latest attack about military spending. But happy to be corrected if you give me a source she said it afterwards? Or are you just making bollocks up to make yourself sound believable? " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJN7DSPBec | |||
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"I do not support Mrs May, its not possible to stop all of these idiots in cars. I am not I hope racisit but we have to start attacking extremism seriously, compared to the way the Muslim states themselves deal with extremists we are soft as butter, it might be our weakness. " It's pointless trying to "deal with extremists" by their very nature they are past that point. And actually "dealing with them" generally creates more. We need to stop people becoming extremists in the first place. Better community policing and cohesion here, Stop bombing civilians elsewhere. Give proper aid to the displaced and desperate refugees. Get tougher with the states feeding these conflicts. And generally make the world a better place for everyone. It sounds a stretch, but the alternative doesn't seem to be going very well does it?! | |||
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"Threat levels mean nothing. Had she not reduced it, what difference would it have made? Unless she banned vans from being driven and banned people from going out, or had everywhere crawling with more soldiers than the whole world has, let alone the UK, how do you stop maniacs in a van from running people down and then jumping out and attacking them with knives?
I'm getting fed up of people saying more should be done. They are trying. How the fuck can they stop idiots with vans and knives?" | |||
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"Everyone will have their own opinions but for me it's really about what is truly important to you. I know plenty of teachers, medical staff and police... Whilst their political views differ, they are all clear in their thoughts that this government has decimated our services and will continue to do so Labour may not have all the answers but their manifesto certainly seems to place greater emphasis on improving our public services. Financially the tories look after me better... However if I have to pay a little bit more tax so my family and friends have access to the NHS then I'm happy to do so... The majority of us were brought into this world with the help of NHS midwives so we shouldn't turn our back on them now. Very well said We would all give more to protect our way of life's Unfortunately those that have the wealth don't want to pay anything at all " Maybe the wealthy don't want to pay anything but everyone has a vote... We should all use it and vote not for the person, not for the party, but for what is important to each and every one of us | |||
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"Everyone will have their own opinions but for me it's really about what is truly important to you. I know plenty of teachers, medical staff and police... Whilst their political views differ, they are all clear in their thoughts that this government has decimated our services and will continue to do so Labour may not have all the answers but their manifesto certainly seems to place greater emphasis on improving our public services. Financially the tories look after me better... However if I have to pay a little bit more tax so my family and friends have access to the NHS then I'm happy to do so... The majority of us were brought into this world with the help of NHS midwives so we shouldn't turn our back on them now. Very well said We would all give more to protect our way of life's Unfortunately those that have the wealth don't want to pay anything at all Maybe the wealthy don't want to pay anything but everyone has a vote... We should all use it and vote not for the person, not for the party, but for what is important to each and every one of us" I done that last time but nothing changed for us as a family! I'm still very much undecided about Thursday. | |||
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"Please can everyone stop being ignorant about British politics. One person doesn't call the shots.. She is the leader of a party. She never cut police levels or reduce the threat level. The government did with more knowledge and information that we could possibly know. The p.m doesn't sit on a throne shouting orders out! And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick " Very well said | |||
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"Please can everyone stop being ignorant about British politics. One person doesn't call the shots.. She is the leader of a party. She never cut police levels or reduce the threat level. The government did with more knowledge and information that we could possibly know. The p.m doesn't sit on a throne shouting orders out! And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick Very well said " but it's ok for mrs maygabe to use these recent terrorist incidents to sway political opinion by telling the public that labour would leave us vulnerable to a terrorist threat etc etc ..... i see | |||
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"It is NIT a decision made by Theresa May. It is made by JTAC. The Terror Action Committe (or something like....). The decision was taken out of political hands several years ago so that ignorant people wouldn't try to score cheap political points. Leave it out! That about sums it up. To point score over a tragic event
I seem to recall after 7/7 a certain mp stating "it's a good day to hide bad news"..
Cannot recall who said it, but it wouldn't be unlike any political party to use an event like last night's to political point score..
Perhaps that's why all parties have postponed campaigns for one day, all except ukip..
Take from that what you may.. "Not that it really matters, but of this is what you are thinking of, it was an aide, and after 9/11 "It's now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury. Councillors' expenses?" | |||
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"Everyone will have their own opinions but for me it's really about what is truly important to you. I know plenty of teachers, medical staff and police... Whilst their political views differ, they are all clear in their thoughts that this government has decimated our services and will continue to do so Labour may not have all the answers but their manifesto certainly seems to place greater emphasis on improving our public services. Financially the tories look after me better... However if I have to pay a little bit more tax so my family and friends have access to the NHS then I'm happy to do so... The majority of us were brought into this world with the help of NHS midwives so we shouldn't turn our back on them now. Very well said We would all give more to protect our way of life's Unfortunately those that have the wealth don't want to pay anything at all Maybe the wealthy don't want to pay anything but everyone has a vote... We should all use it and vote not for the person, not for the party, but for what is important to each and every one of us I done that last time but nothing changed for us as a family! I'm still very much undecided about Thursday." That's politics! I'm in a Tory stronghold however I'm clear on my vote... It will still remain a Tory stronghold regardless of my vote but my values in life mean the NHS means more to me than getting a tax break | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " She knows EXACTLY what she's doing. The general population won't be privy to what goes on behind closed doors. Believe me, because I am privy to one very small part of what happens next. | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " Poor poor. Changing the threat level is about what is known. If you had better knowledge then you should have shared it rather than saving it to score a political point after the event. However I assume you are just using a tragedy in a awful manner. In case you did not get the memo, political activity is paused till Monday. | |||
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"all those saying she should have gone against the summary of JTAC are absolutely idiotic.... they are called "Soft" targets for a reason.... the reason is that you can't have police everywhere at all times... so unless you are all proposing having a policeman on every street corner.... or checking every single car that ever heads out for a drive.... how would you propose that attacks like this are stopped.... "
Has there ever been a more reasonable sensible man than _abio! | |||
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"all those saying she should have gone against the summary of JTAC are absolutely idiotic.... they are called "Soft" targets for a reason.... the reason is that you can't have police everywhere at all times... so unless you are all proposing having a policeman on every street corner.... or checking every single car that ever heads out for a drive.... how would you propose that attacks like this are stopped.... " I agree with you a great deal on this But do you not think it is time to take some lessons from this i.e. should they now have barriers (bollards) in areas like this?
It can never be stopped but we need to assume it is always going to happen... and take all the steps we can to make it more difficult for the future. | |||
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"she was clueless as home secretary and she's still clueless now" this | |||
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"Threat levels mean nothing. Had she not reduced it, what difference would it have made? Unless she banned vans from being driven and banned people from going out, or had everywhere crawling with more soldiers than the whole world has, let alone the UK, how do you stop maniacs in a van from running people down and then jumping out and attacking them with knives?
I'm getting fed up of people saying more should be done. They are trying. How the fuck can they stop idiots with vans and knives?"Exactly this | |||
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"It is NIT a decision made by Theresa May. It is made by JTAC. The Terror Action Committe (or something like....). The decision was taken out of political hands several years ago so that ignorant people wouldn't try to score cheap political points. Leave it out!" This
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"Everyone will have their own opinions but for me it's really about what is truly important to you. I know plenty of teachers, medical staff and police... Whilst their political views differ, they are all clear in their thoughts that this government has decimated our services and will continue to do so Labour may not have all the answers but their manifesto certainly seems to place greater emphasis on improving our public services. Financially the tories look after me better... However if I have to pay a little bit more tax so my family and friends have access to the NHS then I'm happy to do so... The majority of us were brought into this world with the help of NHS midwives so we shouldn't turn our back on them now. " Very well put | |||
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"Theresa May know what she's doing Theresa May have no clue at all Theresa May be in control Theresa May have dropped the ball But should things end up pear-shaped Theresa Will surely take the fall (I've never done a political poem before)" Strong work | |||
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"I trust her better than Corbin he's wants more to move to UK " Corbyn, has consistently opposed U.K. involvement in the Middle Eastern conflicts from Iraq to Libya etc. Other politicians have consistently led us on this path. If we're kicking a hornet's nest, it's no surprise really getting stung. And re: the immigrant comment- Let's remember, in many cases it's 'radicalised' empathisers/ psychopaths who have been born and bred right here! I'm looking forward to casting my vote. I've never felt as convicted. For many reasons, but especially in light of the recent tragedy, for a safer Britain! | |||
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"She needs to get her eye bags sorted bless her! Can't stand her she's a witch and don't like jeremy corbyn either acting like hes one of the working men but sends his kids to private school they are all the same!" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/1999/may/13/uk.politicalnews2 actually... You are extremely misinformed. | |||
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"I trust her better than Corbin he's wants more to move to UK Corbyn, has consistently opposed U.K. involvement in the Middle Eastern conflicts from Iraq to Libya etc. Other politicians have consistently led us on this path. If we're kicking a hornet's nest, it's no surprise really getting stung. And re: the immigrant comment- Let's remember, in many cases it's 'radicalised' empathisers/ psychopaths who have been born and bred right here! I'm looking forward to casting my vote. I've never felt as convicted. For many reasons, but especially in light of the recent tragedy, for a safer Britain! " Nice point | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday " I think she does know what she's doing unlike ....... | |||
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Do you think if the threat level had of remained at severe, last nights attack wouldn't have happened?"Threat level WAS at severe. OP has them the wrong way around. Critical is the highest level - and was the level we went to in the wake of the Manchester attack. Severe is the next tier down. To be fair, both levels are high alert levels. Severe is that an attack is highly likely. Critical is that such an attack is imminent. The problem comes in trying to anticipate the type of attack that happened last night | |||
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"General question for those who feel Labour will not be able to negotiate a good brexit deal... Why is that?" I am flipping so much. Taking a long view, taking reactions, u-turns and what I see as populism to buy votes (VAT reductions/free student ed). So here's my view. I have my doubts - a change of Government is an upheaval when times are easy so now it is 10 fold. It will be an extremely busy time, yet he is tired after 40 minutes of question time. He has final say yet his ability to gain party support is circumspect. He has to form Government but does he have a full cabinet or one that again will support him if in coalition. He has to deliver Brexit and deliver his manifesto. Two enormous deliveries. His reforms to the Nation depend on 3 things: 1 Lending, 2 Taxes, 3 Raise in Corporation tax (over 4yrs) Article 50 will not stop during the process of Nation reform - his ministers will be stretched. Once legislatively disentangled, we know if single market access comes with freedom of movement or not (Keir Starmer like Thornbury seems to change like the wind), trade negotiations with countries can begin meaning they will have to be voted in for a second term probably a third for his spending and deals to take effect. Labour unlike Tories have already said they would deal at any cost, meaning EU already knows our hand, even if the Tories were planning to deal on immigration it's better the opposition don't know your hand (we don't fully know theirs). | |||
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We as current members of the EU have free movement of people from the EU into the UK. Nothing we can do about it until we leave...... If 100k plus people want to come into the UK from Europe then we can do nothing to stop it.  So how can we restrict immigration??? | |||
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"General question for those who feel Labour will not be able to negotiate a good brexit deal... Why is that? I am flipping so much. Taking a long view, taking reactions, u-turns and what I see as populism to buy votes (VAT reductions/free student ed). So here's my view. I have my doubts - a change of Government is an upheaval when times are easy so now it is 10 fold. It will be an extremely busy time, yet he is tired after 40 minutes of question time. He has final say yet his ability to gain party support is circumspect. He has to form Government but does he have a full cabinet or one that again will support him if in coalition. He has to deliver Brexit and deliver his manifesto. Two enormous deliveries. His reforms to the Nation depend on 3 things: 1 Lending, 2 Taxes, 3 Raise in Corporation tax (over 4yrs) Article 50 will not stop during the process of Nation reform - his ministers will be stretched. Once legislatively disentangled, we know if single market access comes with freedom of movement or not (Keir Starmer like Thornbury seems to change like the wind), trade negotiations with countries can begin meaning they will have to be voted in for a second term probably a third for his spending and deals to take effect. Labour unlike Tories have already said they would deal at any cost, meaning EU already knows our hand, even if the Tories were planning to deal on immigration it's better the opposition don't know your hand (we don't fully know theirs). " Interesting points and thanks for taking the time to comment. | |||
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"General question for those who feel Labour will not be able to negotiate a good brexit deal... Why is that? I am flipping so much. Taking a long view, taking reactions, u-turns and what I see as populism to buy votes (VAT reductions/free student ed). So here's my view. I have my doubts - a change of Government is an upheaval when times are easy so now it is 10 fold. It will be an extremely busy time, yet he is tired after 40 minutes of question time. He has final say yet his ability to gain party support is circumspect. He has to form Government but does he have a full cabinet or one that again will support him if in coalition. He has to deliver Brexit and deliver his manifesto. Two enormous deliveries. His reforms to the Nation depend on 3 things: 1 Lending, 2 Taxes, 3 Raise in Corporation tax (over 4yrs) Article 50 will not stop during the process of Nation reform - his ministers will be stretched. Once legislatively disentangled, we know if single market access comes with freedom of movement or not (Keir Starmer like Thornbury seems to change like the wind), trade negotiations with countries can begin meaning they will have to be voted in for a second term probably a third for his spending and deals to take effect. Labour unlike Tories have already said they would deal at any cost, meaning EU already knows our hand, even if the Tories were planning to deal on immigration it's better the opposition don't know your hand (we don't fully know theirs). " After reading your points I have to disagree. Yes I know the question was on brexit so I will answer that first. You say that they will accept a deal at any cost....untrue that has not been said at all. What he has said is he knows we have commitments and so does Europe. Do you really think it is in either parties interest to walk away with no deal? To be honest Teresa May is full of bluster and there is not a chance she will walk away and Europe know this. On the economy there is 11 billion of further cuts to come from in work benefits....yes in work and not for them so called "lazy buggers" who they say won't go out to work.....no this is for the hard working people of this country who they say will always be better off working! Add to that the cuts they have already made to the poorest and most vulnerable in society! Then add to that the cuts in the NHS police....too many to list all. But then add to that the debt they have accumulated whilst in power! So out of all the borrowing and cuts we are still in austerity....but the rich are getting tax cuts! So all is running great under the tories eh? They have been found out and people are sick to death of this unfair goverment....roll on Thursday. | |||
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"I do not support Mrs May, its not possible to stop all of these idiots in cars. I am not I hope racisit but we have to start attacking extremism seriously, compared to the way the Muslim states themselves deal with extremists we are soft as butter, it might be our weakness. It's pointless trying to "deal with extremists" by their very nature they are past that point. And actually "dealing with them" generally creates more. We need to stop people becoming extremists in the first place. Better community policing and cohesion here, Stop bombing civilians elsewhere. Give proper aid to the displaced and desperate refugees. Get tougher with the states feeding these conflicts. And generally make the world a better place for everyone. It sounds a stretch, but the alternative doesn't seem to be going very well does it?! The Manchester bombers family was given shelter from a regime that wanted them dead. We got tough with that regime and it was over thrown. Did not help a great deal." But what did we do once that regime was over thrown? Left the country in turmoil. | |||
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"all those saying she should have gone against the summary of JTAC are absolutely idiotic.... they are called "Soft" targets for a reason.... the reason is that you can't have police everywhere at all times... so unless you are all proposing having a policeman on every street corner.... or checking every single car that ever heads out for a drive.... how would you propose that attacks like this are stopped.... I agree with you a great deal on this But do you not think it is time to take some lessons from this i.e. should they now have barriers (bollards) in areas like this?
It can never be stopped but we need to assume it is always going to happen... and take all the steps we can to make it more difficult for the future."It would be pointless. It would simply drive would be attackers to other softer targets. Some sleepy little middle England town on market day would actually be more shocking I think. | |||
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"I do not support Mrs May, its not possible to stop all of these idiots in cars. I am not I hope racisit but we have to start attacking extremism seriously, compared to the way the Muslim states themselves deal with extremists we are soft as butter, it might be our weakness. It's pointless trying to "deal with extremists" by their very nature they are past that point. And actually "dealing with them" generally creates more. We need to stop people becoming extremists in the first place. Better community policing and cohesion here, Stop bombing civilians elsewhere. Give proper aid to the displaced and desperate refugees. Get tougher with the states feeding these conflicts. And generally make the world a better place for everyone. It sounds a stretch, but the alternative doesn't seem to be going very well does it?! The Manchester bombers family was given shelter from a regime that wanted them dead. We got tough with that regime and it was over thrown. Did not help a great deal. But what did we do once that regime was over thrown? Left the country in turmoil." So you think we should go back to nation building? As locals are inept at doing it. Or we should stay out and let tyrants wipe out cities. Or we should help those on the ground and when they fuck it up blame ourselves. We've tried all the different ways and in the end everyone criticises. Iraq/Afghanistan - nation building Libya - assistance to locals Syria - stay the fuck out Whichever option you take even doing nothing, the extremists will blame their actions on it. In the end they are fucked up and will attack anyone they can as they are angry with the world. | |||
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"If JCAT say it's no longer as likely , she will take their advice . Simple .... any prime minister would do the same whatever party they were . It's crazy to try and point score over such an issue "
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" Iraq/Afghanistan - nation building Libya - assistance to locals Syria - stay the fuck out Whichever option you take even doing nothing, the extremists will blame their actions on it. In the end they are fucked up and will attack anyone they can as they are angry with the world." We didn't build much in Iraq, that was usful to the local populace. Libya. We assisted, then bugged out leaving the job half done. We have not kept out, but played round the edges (as have a dozen other nations), effectivly not allowing the thing to end. Yes, the extremists will, they are not exactly looking fir our good points. But they need the good will of the local populace. If we don't screw them over, there will be no new (or far fewer) extremists, and they'll stop supporting, or be more willing to oppose the extremists. | |||
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" After reading your points I have to disagree. Yes I know the question was on brexit so I will answer that first. You say that they will accept a deal at any cost....untrue that has not been said at all. What he has said is he knows we have commitments and so does Europe. Do you really think it is in either parties interest to walk away with no deal? To be honest Teresa May is full of bluster and there is not a chance she will walk away and Europe know this. On the economy there is 11 billion of further cuts to come from in work benefits....yes in work and not for them so called "lazy buggers" who they say won't go out to work.....no this is for the hard working people of this country who they say will always be better off working! Add to that the cuts they have already made to the poorest and most vulnerable in society! Then add to that the cuts in the NHS police....too many to list all. But then add to that the debt they have accumulated whilst in power! So out of all the borrowing and cuts we are still in austerity....but the rich are getting tax cuts! So all is running great under the tories eh? They have been found out and people are sick to death of this unfair goverment....roll on Thursday. " You see this is what puts me off. There is no admittance of the difficulties an incoming Govt will face. It is likely (whether Labour or Tory) that Brexit will affect investment. If we become unlendable, interest on loans will simply be impossible to repay. I didn't vote Tory in the last so you don't have to convince me of the reasons to vote for them now, though I am not going to vote for a party that promises the earth to get into Government that isn't capable. It took 11mnths to have the hearing for Livingstone, so long I thought he'd been fired. The outcome though was a one year paid suspension. What were they doing all that time because they weren't focussed on much else - the hearing was independent but 11mnths to get to it, on such an issue? Labour have said any deal is better than no deal, it was said in leaders questions just the other night where Starmer was put to the forefront. He is a lawyer not a negotiator. A negotiator would be uninterested in legalities (right and wrong), and more interested in the outcome, so are you going to rely on Barry Gardiner to fight our corner? I can see why May would call the election. The Govt is in place, she could easily reshuffle ministers or policies that need to be amended (she announced revision to employment and mental health during leader questions with Dimbelby), though otherwise it would be onto Breixt negotiations for 4 years without much change to the national policy. If any part of the Corbyn plan fails, they do not have the time during this term to reshuffle or revise their plans, they have to continue. You disagree that they would be stretched if they get in and too that their policies may conflict if in coalition - I think that is an easy observation for anyone. (late hope this makes sense) | |||
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Diane Abbott is the next home Secretary if Labour wins and T May is PM if conservative wins. Hobsons choice indeed. Lols @ Racist Abbott btw. "We're as we have the embarrassing Boris for a foreign secretary.....I think that counter act | |||
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Diane Abbott is the next home Secretary if Labour wins and T May is PM if conservative wins. Hobsons choice indeed. Lols @ Racist Abbott btw.
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"Please can everyone stop being ignorant about British politics. One person doesn't call the shots.. She is the leader of a party. She never cut police levels or reduce the threat level. The government did with more knowledge and information that we could possibly know. The p.m doesn't sit on a throne shouting orders out! And using terrorist incidents to sway political opinions is sick Very well said but it's ok for mrs maygabe to use these recent terrorist incidents to sway political opinion by telling the public that labour would leave us vulnerable to a terrorist threat etc etc ..... i see" Every government since and including Blair has jeopardised this countrys' security.. by jumping into bed with bush over reports that were doctored. JATAC... Joint Anti Terrorist Action Committee give their recommendations to COBRA committee.. they then make the decision to lower the threat. The radical cells and factions of terrorists are hiding in plain sight.. and until the government sit up and take the advice from all security services... they are going to leave us wide open to atrocities such as Manchester and London. Decisions made by the police last night.. in such circumstances are hard and such decisions you have to stand by!! In those situations I would make exactly the same decision. | |||
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"She's a parasite, fraud and a liar. She's the reason I won't vote Conservative this time. " I get that but you could just as easily and legitimately say the same about Corbin and labour. The decider for me is the EU. Based purely on that, I'm reluctantly voting Tory first time in my life. I can't believe its come to this. It's like when survivors have to eat the dead. It's abhorant and goes against every fibre of myy being but we have to get out of the EU and we won't with anyone else. At least after Brexit we can do away with her and her Tory cuts. If we end up under junker and the Euro commission for good, we are just completely fucked. And Muslim attacks have nothing to do with religion really.. that's just phycology. It's British foreign policy and immigration. One provides the motive, the other provides the means. As long as we support Israel, attack, invade and occupy Middle East countries ....and then flood our country with the refugees and migrants FROM THOSE COUNTRIES we will be in danger. | |||
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"She's a parasite, fraud and a liar. She's the reason I won't vote Conservative this time. I get that but you could just as easily and legitimately say the same about Corbin and labour. The decider for me is the EU. Based purely on that, I'm reluctantly voting Tory first time in my life. I can't believe its come to this. It's like when survivors have to eat the dead. It's abhorant and goes against every fibre of myy being but we have to get out of the EU and we won't with anyone else. At least after Brexit we can do away with her and her Tory cuts. If we end up under junker and the Euro commission for good, we are just completely fucked. And Muslim attacks have nothing to do with religion really.. that's just phycology. It's British foreign policy and immigration. One provides the motive, the other provides the means. As long as we support Israel, attack, invade and occupy Middle East countries ....and then flood our country with the refugees and migrants FROM THOSE COUNTRIES we will be in danger." I don't know where you get the impression from that only her can get us out of the EU! Her track record does not suggest this at all. Infact what the feck has she down so far? Apart from all her bluster and u-turns that is. | |||
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"Lets face it...politicians of all flavours will generally say whatever they need to in order to get elected. Sometimes they deliver, sometimes they dont. Sometimes they were never going to do it in the first place, sometimes it was prevented by things outside of their control. I always smile and shake my head when I hear people say that "...they lied to us.."" A lot of truth in that, though I would like to believe that Corbyn is different. He has been incredibly consistent with his voting and behaviour his entire career. Often going against the party line, when it was not his own belief on a subject. | |||
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"She's a parasite, fraud and a liar. She's the reason I won't vote Conservative this time. I get that but you could just as easily and legitimately say the same about Corbin and labour. The decider for me is the EU. Based purely on that, I'm reluctantly voting Tory first time in my life. I can't believe its come to this. It's like when survivors have to eat the dead. It's abhorant and goes against every fibre of myy being but we have to get out of the EU and we won't with anyone else. At least after Brexit we can do away with her and her Tory cuts. If we end up under junker and the Euro commission for good, we are just completely fucked. And Muslim attacks have nothing to do with religion really.. that's just phycology. It's British foreign policy and immigration. One provides the motive, the other provides the means. As long as we support Israel, attack, invade and occupy Middle East countries ....and then flood our country with the refugees and migrants FROM THOSE COUNTRIES we will be in danger. I don't know where you get the impression from that only her can get us out of the EU! Her track record does not suggest this at all. Infact what the feck has she down so far? Apart from all her bluster and u-turns that is." Omg lol really? I get that impression from reading the news and following events. What planet are you on?? Brexit has been impeded by remainers like the House of Lords and Gina miller and those EU shill high court judges. Labour don't want brexit and will undermine it. They say a bad deal with the EU is better than no deal. They will bend over and spread britains arse cheeks for the EU to fuck us. Would you enter negotiations over buying a used car by saying to the seller "don't worry, no matter how awful this deal is I will accept it" ? | |||
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"She's a parasite, fraud and a liar. She's the reason I won't vote Conservative this time. I get that but you could just as easily and legitimately say the same about Corbin and labour. The decider for me is the EU. Based purely on that, I'm reluctantly voting Tory first time in my life. I can't believe its come to this. It's like when survivors have to eat the dead. It's abhorant and goes against every fibre of myy being but we have to get out of the EU and we won't with anyone else. At least after Brexit we can do away with her and her Tory cuts. If we end up under junker and the Euro commission for good, we are just completely fucked. And Muslim attacks have nothing to do with religion really.. that's just phycology. It's British foreign policy and immigration. One provides the motive, the other provides the means. As long as we support Israel, attack, invade and occupy Middle East countries ....and then flood our country with the refugees and migrants FROM THOSE COUNTRIES we will be in danger. I don't know where you get the impression from that only her can get us out of the EU! Her track record does not suggest this at all. Infact what the feck has she down so far? Apart from all her bluster and u-turns that is. Omg lol really? I get that impression from reading the news and following events. What planet are you on?? Brexit has been impeded by remainers like the House of Lords and Gina miller and those EU shill high court judges. Labour don't want brexit and will undermine it. They say a bad deal with the EU is better than no deal. They will bend over and spread britains arse cheeks for the EU to fuck us. Would you enter negotiations over buying a used car by saying to the seller "don't worry, no matter how awful this deal is I will accept it" ? " And just when have labour stated that? On your car dealers btw | |||
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"I don't think that it is fair to blame her in any way for the attacks themselves... but I think it is fair game to ask if it is right that police numbers and spending have been cut during her 6years as Home Secretary " I wonder too if 50 men on a rugby pitch would make the game better. More does not equal a better service if the management is not effect. Waste was happening throughout the Police and forces when it was inherited and it is a sad fact that cost cutting had to happen. Having recently seen Corbyns video with the BBC stating No Shoot to Kill Orders for the Police in 2015. I have realised my annoyance for the man that will say and do anything to the public to get into office. He is not getting my vote. | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday She was Home Secretary for six years before ending up as PM. She made the cuts to the police in the community that have decimated their ability to gather the intelligence on perpetrators of these crimes before they can be committed. But apparently, despite being warned repeatedly by the police what the effects would be, apparently now 'enough is enough'. Which to Theresa May and Amber Rudd means making our internet less secure with no reason, but not putting any more police back on the streets. She is also planning to cut our armed forces even further. I am truly amazed there is anyone left in the UK who has any confidence in her whatsoever." Totally agree and even when ex senior Police Officers come out as they have in the last weeks and say her cutting Police numbers has caused massive problems operationally and with morale, she has just not answered. It has been said if the attack in London had been in most other cities, the ARV (Armed response vehicle) would no way have been there that fast, due to lack of resources! | |||
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"She's a parasite, fraud and a liar. She's the reason I won't vote Conservative this time. I get that but you could just as easily and legitimately say the same about Corbin and labour. The decider for me is the EU. Based purely on that, I'm reluctantly voting Tory first time in my life. I can't believe its come to this. It's like when survivors have to eat the dead. It's abhorant and goes against every fibre of myy being but we have to get out of the EU and we won't with anyone else. At least after Brexit we can do away with her and her Tory cuts. If we end up under junker and the Euro commission for good, we are just completely fucked. And Muslim attacks have nothing to do with religion really.. that's just phycology. It's British foreign policy and immigration. One provides the motive, the other provides the means. As long as we support Israel, attack, invade and occupy Middle East countries ....and then flood our country with the refugees and migrants FROM THOSE COUNTRIES we will be in danger. I don't know where you get the impression from that only her can get us out of the EU! Her track record does not suggest this at all. Infact what the feck has she down so far? Apart from all her bluster and u-turns that is. Omg lol really? I get that impression from reading the news and following events. What planet are you on?? Brexit has been impeded by remainers like the House of Lords and Gina miller and those EU shill high court judges. Labour don't want brexit and will undermine it. They say a bad deal with the EU is better than no deal. They will bend over and spread britains arse cheeks for the EU to fuck us. Would you enter negotiations over buying a used car by saying to the seller "don't worry, no matter how awful this deal is I will accept it" ? " Just to be clear, Labour don't say any deal is better than no deal. What Corbyn has said (repeatedly) is that no deal IS a bad deal. May is trying to play it that if she can't negotiate a deal in time, we just take our ball away and go home and everything will be as before. It won't. No deal will be catastrophic to the country. -Matt | |||
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"She reduces the threat from severe back down to critical after police arrest 14 in connection to the arena bomb Does she actually no what she's doing? I don't think so Lost all faith in this woman I'm clueless about Thursday She was Home Secretary for six years before ending up as PM. She made the cuts to the police in the community that have decimated their ability to gather the intelligence on perpetrators of these crimes before they can be committed. But apparently, despite being warned repeatedly by the police what the effects would be, apparently now 'enough is enough'. Which to Theresa May and Amber Rudd means making our internet less secure with no reason, but not putting any more police back on the streets. She is also planning to cut our armed forces even further. I am truly amazed there is anyone left in the UK who has any confidence in her whatsoever."
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no i didn't .... i think the torys recent gerrymandering by way of electoral register reform is going save their arses on thursday
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no i didn't .... i think the torys recent gerrymandering by way of electoral register reform is going save their arses on thursday
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"Never in my life have I been so disillusioned with politics. Of the 2 people with a chance of being PM we have a left wing ideologist with a questionable record (to say the least) around his views on terrorism and a right winger who is so stubborn that she refuses to listen to anyone and thinks she is always right. Appalling situation for the UK to be in. We need a new political party "The Common Sense Party" that listens, makes decisions but also humbly accepts when it has got something wrong." Was my opinion too. But an hour ago Labour annoyed me. And being fair May has U-turned, though I can't think what on now. But Labour have annoyed me. | |||
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"Never in my life have I been so disillusioned with politics. Of the 2 people with a chance of being PM we have a left wing ideologist with a questionable record (to say the least) around his views on terrorism and a right winger who is so stubborn that she refuses to listen to anyone and thinks she is always right. Appalling situation for the UK to be in. We need a new political party "The Common Sense Party" that listens, makes decisions but also humbly accepts when it has got something wrong. Was my opinion too. But an hour ago Labour annoyed me. And being fair May has U-turned, though I can't think what on now. But Labour have annoyed me. " Feck me they annoyed you a hour ago! The tories annoy me on a daily basis with their constant lying. | |||
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"So if we look at it all with a different hat on , we would all be complaining about how much money was being spent on policing for the last six years , at the expense of the NHS , disability , and other welfare expenses , if cuts hadn't been made . The fact is that no matter how many police officers were on the street , we couldn't prevent a van being driven on a pavement , or a suicide bomber at an event . How much is too much ? No party could prevent these atrocities , no matter how many police we have . " Don't think so as they have all been cut to the bone. And if they get back in it will be amputations. | |||
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I wasn't being insulting. That is his policy. He does not want military intervention, he does not want shoot to kill, he believes in peace treaties. He does not add terror groups to watch lists
He will be inviting them to No' 10.
What was so insulting??????? "Apologies if I misinterpreted your comments. I know engaging in dialogue is his preferred method of dealing with terrorism, after your initial post though I thought you were suggesting that by using said method he wouldn't be dealing with the situation properly. Maybe 'insult' was the wrong word to use but if you were intending to be critical with your comment (apologies if i've misinterpreted that too! ) I think it was a little churlish of you not to acknowledge that he had actually condemned the attackers.
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"It's not difficult seeing the gestalt from just this thread. "As above, so below" springs to mind in a macro/mini sense. That means the individuals on here echo what is said by society - not surprising really but one would hope for a more individualised approach from individuals. From a purely economic point of view I don't believe a "no deal and walk away" scenario would be better than a "bad deal" whatever a "bad deal" entails (no details, you see) and I don't believe a "bad deal" would be that bad as the EU member states know we are good for them and vice versa. What I don't like is politicians using their Brexit scare tactics that were used prior to the referendum and have subsequently proved to be largely unfounded. " Nice one and I think many would agree with this. The tories are harping on so much about the brexit deal as it is all they have to go on.....because they know they have been found out on everything else. But the truth is they will even fuck that up as dave Cameron did. | |||
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"It's not difficult seeing the gestalt from just this thread. "As above, so below" springs to mind in a macro/mini sense. That means the individuals on here echo what is said by society - not surprising really but one would hope for a more individualised approach from individuals. From a purely economic point of view I don't believe a "no deal and walk away" scenario would be better than a "bad deal" whatever a "bad deal" entails (no details, you see) and I don't believe a "bad deal" would be that bad as the EU member states know we are good for them and vice versa. What I don't like is politicians using their Brexit scare tactics that were used prior to the referendum and have subsequently proved to be largely unfounded. Nice one and I think many would agree with this. The tories are harping on so much about the brexit deal as it is all they have to go on.....because they know they have been found out on everything else. But the truth is they will even fuck that up as dave Cameron did." On this issue of brexit deals, I think Corbyn has a better attitude of being willing to talk and negotiate in a more friendly manner that will I think result in a better deal for the uk. Charging in saying 'I'm strong and stable" (despite numerous U-turns) and stating that she will walk away from talks is not a good way to start. That would have been a better thing to say way down the line when loads of time and energy has been spent by the EU in negotiating - its poor form to show ones hand early on. It leaves no room for manoeuvre. I think on the issue of brexit, I'd trust Corbyn to get us a better deal. As May says, it's a very important issue in this election so on those grounds, I shall be voting Labour. | |||
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I wasn't being insulting. That is his policy. He does not want military intervention, he does not want shoot to kill, he believes in peace treaties. He does not add terror groups to watch lists
He will be inviting them to No' 10.
What was so insulting???????
Apologies if I misinterpreted your comments. I know engaging in dialogue is his preferred method of dealing with terrorism, after your initial post though I thought you were suggesting that by using said method he wouldn't be dealing with the situation properly. Maybe 'insult' was the wrong word to use but if you were intending to be critical with your comment (apologies if i've misinterpreted that too! ) I think it was a little churlish of you not to acknowledge that he had actually condemned the attackers.
Mr"I suppose clichés and whimsies are the chosen armoury when your voting in a leader to make tea for extremists. I accept your apology, there's no need for it though. You stated his glorious condemnation earlier. " "The primary responsibility for this lies with those who did it, they killed people in cold blood in a disgusting and appalling way and there's no words other than total condemnation. Mr" It took me back, I had to sit down, I wasn't quite prepared for the weight of his words to swat me around the face like a wet bag. | |||
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I wasn't being insulting. That is his policy. He does not want military intervention, he does not want shoot to kill, he believes in peace treaties. He does not add terror groups to watch lists
He will be inviting them to No' 10.
What was so insulting???????
Apologies if I misinterpreted your comments. I know engaging in dialogue is his preferred method of dealing with terrorism, after your initial post though I thought you were suggesting that by using said method he wouldn't be dealing with the situation properly. Maybe 'insult' was the wrong word to use but if you were intending to be critical with your comment (apologies if i've misinterpreted that too! ) I think it was a little churlish of you not to acknowledge that he had actually condemned the attackers.
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I suppose clichés and whimsies are the chosen armoury when your voting in a leader to make tea for extremists. I accept your apology, there's no need for it though.
You stated his glorious condemnation earlier.
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It took me back, I had to sit down, I wasn't quite prepared for the weight of his words to swat me around the face like a wet bag."I was polite so there's no need for the condescension. Re. Corbyn, there is more to his statement in terms of what should be done but i only quoted the bit you were concerned with: condemning the attackers, and with regard to that I don't know what else you would want him to say. If you want to know what else he said though I suggest you search yourself, maybe try a little harder than last time lest you make any more false accusations. Mr | |||
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"It's not difficult seeing the gestalt from just this thread. "As above, so below" springs to mind in a macro/mini sense. That means the individuals on here echo what is said by society - not surprising really but one would hope for a more individualised approach from individuals. From a purely economic point of view I don't believe a "no deal and walk away" scenario would be better than a "bad deal" whatever a "bad deal" entails (no details, you see) and I don't believe a "bad deal" would be that bad as the EU member states know we are good for them and vice versa. What I don't like is politicians using their Brexit scare tactics that were used prior to the referendum and have subsequently proved to be largely unfounded. Nice one and I think many would agree with this. The tories are harping on so much about the brexit deal as it is all they have to go on.....because they know they have been found out on everything else. But the truth is they will even fuck that up as dave Cameron did. On this issue of brexit deals, I think Corbyn has a better attitude of being willing to talk and negotiate in a more friendly manner that will I think result in a better deal for the uk. Charging in saying 'I'm strong and stable" (despite numerous U-turns) and stating that she will walk away from talks is not a good way to start. That would have been a better thing to say way down the line when loads of time and energy has been spent by the EU in negotiating - its poor form to show ones hand early on. It leaves no room for manoeuvre. I think on the issue of brexit, I'd trust Corbyn to get us a better deal. As May says, it's a very important issue in this election so on those grounds, I shall be voting Labour. Great post and so true " | |||
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"Holy crap... her avoidance of answering questions has reached a new level at her Q&A today: https://youtu.be/EV4Ew9i_GYY?t=45m3s If you have any doubts as to who is the organ grinder and who is the monkey... (transcript below, there were some intervening questions omitted for brevity... that she also failed to answer.) Financial Times: "Prime Minister, I wondered if you'd like to Say anything at all about the way Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor, has handled this crisis — and whether you have any views on the interventions Of foreign leaders on this issue, so soon after the attack." Theresa May: "l think Sadiq is doing an excellent job. I chaired a second Cobra meeting this morning, Sadiq Khan was present, he was present at the Cobra I chaired yesterday, and we're working with the Mayor of London to ensure, for example, the transport network has been able to get up and running, so people can go about their business." Financial Times: "And foreign interventions?" [Theresa May neglects to answer this, and invites a question from The Herald J Bloomberg News: "You just praised the work Sadiq Khan has been doing as Mayor. Donald Trump responded to the attack by mocking Sadiq Khan. Would a period of silence on his behalf now be welcome?" Theresa May: "As I've said, I'm very clear that Sadiq is doing a good job as Mayor Of London. We're working together, and that's important. Central Government, the London Mayoralty and his Officials, working together we ensure we are responding to the attack, and to give the public reassurance. We want people to go about their business. We are very clear that we will not allow the terrorists to harm our way Of life, or to harm our democracy." Bloomberg News: "But the President?" Theresa May: [gazing around at the room of journalists "Now, who else? Someone at the back, I can't see, sorry..." BuzzFeed: "What would Donald Trump have to say for you to criticise him?" Theresa May: "I'm very clear. I've been very happy to say that I think President Trump is wrong to have taken America out of the climate change agreement. The United Kingdom stays in it, and we believe it's an important international agreement. So I'm not afraid to say when I think President Trump is getting things wrong." Bloomberg News: "But is he wrong on Sadiq Khan?" Theresa May: "Sadiq Khan is doing a good job. I've said that. I think Sadiq Kahn is doing a good job, and it's wrong to say anything else. He is doing a good job." -Matt" Cheers | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday "Not a chance | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
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No there is no chance shame though as we have to go through all mays crap now
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"Holy crap... her avoidance of answering questions has reached a new level at her Q&A today: https://youtu.be/EV4Ew9i_GYY?t=45m3s If you have any doubts as to who is the organ grinder and who is the monkey... (transcript below, there were some intervening questions omitted for brevity... that she also failed to answer.) Financial Times: "Prime Minister, I wondered if you'd like to Say anything at all about the way Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor, has handled this crisis — and whether you have any views on the interventions Of foreign leaders on this issue, so soon after the attack." Theresa May: "l think Sadiq is doing an excellent job. I chaired a second Cobra meeting this morning, Sadiq Khan was present, he was present at the Cobra I chaired yesterday, and we're working with the Mayor of London to ensure, for example, the transport network has been able to get up and running, so people can go about their business." Financial Times: "And foreign interventions?" [Theresa May neglects to answer this, and invites a question from The Herald J Bloomberg News: "You just praised the work Sadiq Khan has been doing as Mayor. Donald Trump responded to the attack by mocking Sadiq Khan. Would a period of silence on his behalf now be welcome?" Theresa May: "As I've said, I'm very clear that Sadiq is doing a good job as Mayor Of London. We're working together, and that's important. Central Government, the London Mayoralty and his Officials, working together we ensure we are responding to the attack, and to give the public reassurance. We want people to go about their business. We are very clear that we will not allow the terrorists to harm our way Of life, or to harm our democracy." Bloomberg News: "But the President?" Theresa May: [gazing around at the room of journalists "Now, who else? Someone at the back, I can't see, sorry..." BuzzFeed: "What would Donald Trump have to say for you to criticise him?" Theresa May: "I'm very clear. I've been very happy to say that I think President Trump is wrong to have taken America out of the climate change agreement. The United Kingdom stays in it, and we believe it's an important international agreement. So I'm not afraid to say when I think President Trump is getting things wrong." Bloomberg News: "But is he wrong on Sadiq Khan?" Theresa May: "Sadiq Khan is doing a good job. I've said that. I think Sadiq Kahn is doing a good job, and it's wrong to say anything else. He is doing a good job." -Matt" So because she won't condemn Trump she's getting grief ? It's just as well we don't have to go through what politicians have to endure . Sometimes you can't do right by anyone it seems ..... | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance
No there is no chance shame though as we have to go through all mays crap now
It may be closet than you think and I fucking hope it is to shut people like you up
It would be great if the Tories didn't get overall majority and then had to form a coalition. If no-one wanted to go in with them, then I believe (correct me if wrong) then the other parties have a chance to form one?
-Matt"Rainbow coalition is where my money is. I think that would be a refreshing change from one party politics. | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance
No there is no chance shame though as we have to go through all mays crap now
It may be closet than you think and I fucking hope it is to shut people like you up
It would be great if the Tories didn't get overall majority and then had to form a coalition. If no-one wanted to go in with them, then I believe (correct me if wrong) then the other parties have a chance to form one?
-Matt Rainbow coalition is where my money is.
I think that would be a refreshing change from one party politics. "And then nothing will get done about anything .... | |||
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"If not we will have no NHS it will be privatised Just what the May clan want there is so much wrong with her party I'm baffled why so many can't see what's happening to our country Have you ever seen a loved one in a hospital corridor for over 6 hours before any assessment was made if the answer is no think about it how would you react how would you feel They have lied from piller to post Oh and if your rich you will be fine taxes won't hurt You I could go on for ever wake up smell the coffee before it's to late " So Labour introduced PFI's into the NHS. Labour introduced student grants. Labour signed the Lisbon treaty opening our boarders completely. Corbyn is asking for others to ask for the PM's resignation which he will support. He doesn't have the bollocks to put his own head on the line. | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance
No there is no chance shame though as we have to go through all mays crap now
It may be closet than you think and I fucking hope it is to shut people like you up "...it wont be....and you will get more angry and more insulting. | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance
No there is no chance shame though as we have to go through all mays crap now
It may be closet than you think and I fucking hope it is to shut people like you up
It would be great if the Tories didn't get overall majority and then had to form a coalition. If no-one wanted to go in with them, then I believe (correct me if wrong) then the other parties have a chance to form one?
-Matt Rainbow coalition is where my money is.
I think that would be a refreshing change from one party politics.
And then nothing will get done about anything ...."Damage limitation. Thats the problem with the world as Bertrand Russell said " Fools and fantaics are so sure of themselves and wise people have doubts.". | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance"We will see on Thursday and I think you will find your in for a shock  | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance
We will see on Thursday and I think you will find your in for a shock "....No....you will find out on thursday that the country has more sense than to vote that terrorist loving cunt into power. | |||
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"Holy crap... her avoidance of answering questions has reached a new level at her Q&A today: https://youtu.be/EV4Ew9i_GYY?t=45m3s If you have any doubts as to who is the organ grinder and who is the monkey... (transcript below, there were some intervening questions omitted for brevity... that she also failed to answer.) Financial Times: "Prime Minister, I wondered if you'd like to Say anything at all about the way Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor, has handled this crisis — and whether you have any views on the interventions Of foreign leaders on this issue, so soon after the attack." Theresa May: "l think Sadiq is doing an excellent job. I chaired a second Cobra meeting this morning, Sadiq Khan was present, he was present at the Cobra I chaired yesterday, and we're working with the Mayor of London to ensure, for example, the transport network has been able to get up and running, so people can go about their business." Financial Times: "And foreign interventions?" [Theresa May neglects to answer this, and invites a question from The Herald J Bloomberg News: "You just praised the work Sadiq Khan has been doing as Mayor. Donald Trump responded to the attack by mocking Sadiq Khan. Would a period of silence on his behalf now be welcome?" Theresa May: "As I've said, I'm very clear that Sadiq is doing a good job as Mayor Of London. We're working together, and that's important. Central Government, the London Mayoralty and his Officials, working together we ensure we are responding to the attack, and to give the public reassurance. We want people to go about their business. We are very clear that we will not allow the terrorists to harm our way Of life, or to harm our democracy." Bloomberg News: "But the President?" Theresa May: [gazing around at the room of journalists "Now, who else? Someone at the back, I can't see, sorry..." BuzzFeed: "What would Donald Trump have to say for you to criticise him?" Theresa May: "I'm very clear. I've been very happy to say that I think President Trump is wrong to have taken America out of the climate change agreement. The United Kingdom stays in it, and we believe it's an important international agreement. So I'm not afraid to say when I think President Trump is getting things wrong." Bloomberg News: "But is he wrong on Sadiq Khan?" Theresa May: "Sadiq Khan is doing a good job. I've said that. I think Sadiq Kahn is doing a good job, and it's wrong to say anything else. He is doing a good job." -Matt" she's taken over from farage as the floating turd that won't flush down around the u-bend | |||
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"If not we will have no NHS it will be privatised Just what the May clan want there is so much wrong with her party I'm baffled why so many can't see what's happening to our country Have you ever seen a loved one in a hospital corridor for over 6 hours before any assessment was made if the answer is no think about it how would you react how would you feel They have lied from piller to post Oh and if your rich you will be fine taxes won't hurt You I could go on for ever wake up smell the coffee before it's to late So Labour introduced PFI's into the NHS. Labour introduced student grants. Labour signed the Lisbon treaty opening our boarders completely. Corbyn is asking for others to ask for the PM's resignation which he will support. He doesn't have the bollocks to put his own head on the line. " Yes Blairs labour did but he was a tory in disguise....though this lot want to sell the NHS off or finish it off. And it was Blair labour who introduced tuition fees I think you meant to say...but that was Blair labour and corbyn is no tory in disguise believe me. | |||
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"lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday
Not a chance
We will see on Thursday and I think you will find your in for a shock "The thing is, Labour voters don't believe Labour will win, that why they think it'll be a shock, otherwise you'll be talking about a victory. Any Tory is just talking politics, they are not talking about an upset or a shock or a victory. Labour voters do not realise what they are actually voting in. It has been realised to me these last few moments really. YAY to 16 year old voting ! Ipads as coercion ! | |||
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" ....No....you will find out on thursday that the country has more sense than to vote that terrorist loving cunt into power " So you would sooner have that lying old cunt in then eh | |||
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" "lots are calling for her resignation. wonder if amber rudd is waiting in the wings Can't happen now. but the country can do it on thursday Not a chance We will see on Thursday and I think you will find your in for a shock " The thing is, Labour voters don't believe Labour will win, that why they think it'll be a shock, otherwise you'll be talking about a victory. Any Tory is just talking politics, they are not talking about an upset or a shock or a victory. Labour voters do not realise what they are actually voting in. It has been realised to me these last few moments really. YAY to 16 year old voting ! Ipads as coercion ! " I'm a Labour voter matey and I know plenty of others....and the one thing we all believe in is the tories will not be running the country come friday | |||
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"Holy crap... her avoidance of answering questions has reached a new level at her Q&A today: https://youtu.be/EV4Ew9i_GYY?t=45m3s If you have any doubts as to who is the organ grinder and who is the monkey... (transcript below, there were some intervening questions omitted for brevity... that she also failed to answer.) Financial Times: "Prime Minister, I wondered if you'd like to Say anything at all about the way Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor, has handled this crisis — and whether you have any views on the interventions Of foreign leaders on this issue, so soon after the attack." Theresa May: "l think Sadiq is doing an excellent job. I chaired a second Cobra meeting this morning, Sadiq Khan was present, he was present at the Cobra I chaired yesterday, and we're working with the Mayor of London to ensure, for example, the transport network has been able to get up and running, so people can go about their business." Financial Times: "And foreign interventions?" [Theresa May neglects to answer this, and invites a question from The Herald J Bloomberg News: "You just praised the work Sadiq Khan has been doing as Mayor. Donald Trump responded to the attack by mocking Sadiq Khan. Would a period of silence on his behalf now be welcome?" Theresa May: "As I've said, I'm very clear that Sadiq is doing a good job as Mayor Of London. We're working together, and that's important. Central Government, the London Mayoralty and his Officials, working together we ensure we are responding to the attack, and to give the public reassurance. We want people to go about their business. We are very clear that we will not allow the terrorists to harm our way Of life, or to harm our democracy." Bloomberg News: "But the President?" Theresa May: [gazing around at the room of journalists "Now, who else? Someone at the back, I can't see, sorry..." BuzzFeed: "What would Donald Trump have to say for you to criticise him?" Theresa May: "I'm very clear. I've been very happy to say that I think President Trump is wrong to have taken America out of the climate change agreement. The United Kingdom stays in it, and we believe it's an important international agreement. So I'm not afraid to say when I think President Trump is getting things wrong." Bloomberg News: "But is he wrong on Sadiq Khan?" Theresa May: "Sadiq Khan is doing a good job. I've said that. I think Sadiq Kahn is doing a good job, and it's wrong to say anything else. He is doing a good job." -Matt" does maybot really think she has something to gain by condoning the loofah-face shit-gibbon's public verbal attacks on the elected Mayor of London ... i should think he's gonna get some stick from londoners on his visit there ... very poorly thought out from both potus and mrs maygabe | |||
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