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"So what would you're reply have been to the same question and why?" Only answer is "damn right I'd use it....without hesitation". Even if you wouldn't. The whole point of a nuclear deterrent is that potential enemies need to think you would. The problem is after 40 yrs of campaigning against....we all know Jeremy wouldn't....no matter what he says. | |||
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"Wot wud my answer be there is only one yes of corse I'd press the button what else is there to say ? " And the 2nd question I asked...why? | |||
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"Funny that we worry more about someone who is conscious about the responsibility than we worry about someone who would use the nuclear deterrent against a now non existent "enemy."" I have to agree | |||
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"I thought about how much the audience were in favour of murdering humans...that subdued the audience so much it nearly made me chuckle lol " The question was whether he would retaliate in the event of a nuclear attack. This was not a question of "murdering humans" but of national defence, and he flunked it. If you remember the Jeremy Paxman interview, he also refused to say whether he would be willing to authorise a drone strike on a terrorist in say, Pakistan or Afghanistan, that was planning or had carried out attacks on UK citizens (for example, Jihadi John). Again a total failure, which he attempted to divert with some rubbish about "knowing all the facts". The man is at best a pacifist, and at worst a terrorist sympathiser (oh yes he most certainly is). Either way he is totally unfit to lead our country at any time, but especially given the terror threat that we face now and in the future. | |||
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"Funny that we worry more about someone who is conscious about the responsibility than we worry about someone who would use the nuclear deterrent against a now non existent "enemy."" What happened to the big bad Russians narrative? Also North Korea are a very real nuclear threat. Kim Jong Un is nuts and wouldn't think twice about hitting the red button either for a first strike or in retaliation to an attack. No amount of Pacifist clap trap from hippy Corbyn could negotiate or Persuade North Korea to disarm either. | |||
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"Wtf do u mean why why not if a country sends a nuclear bomb to the uk to kill millions and u say why retaliate r u insane to stop a second third bomb cuming " Seriously if we ever get into even a limited nuke exchange it is likely game over. There would be a nuclear winter and few would survive. | |||
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"Also North Korea are a very real nuclear threat. " Only they're not though are they " Kim Jong Un is nuts and wouldn't think twice about hitting the red button either for a first strike or in retaliation to an attack. " ...once he has permission from Beijing of course. | |||
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"Wtf do u mean why why not if a country sends a nuclear bomb to the uk to kill millions and u say why retaliate r u insane to stop a second third bomb cuming Seriously if we ever get into even a limited nuke exchange it is likely game over. There would be a nuclear winter and few would survive." There is a good argument for unilateral disarmament and Corbyn and others have made the case for it in the past. It's not an argument I personally agree with but it has some logical merit. However the argument that we have nuclear weapons but tell everyone one that we won't actually use them is totally illogical. The nuclear deterrent is there not just to deter nuclear attack but conventional attack also and it only works if the possible attacker believes you may use it. | |||
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"Wtf do u mean why why not if a country sends a nuclear bomb to the uk to kill millions and u say why retaliate r u insane to stop a second third bomb cuming Seriously if we ever get into even a limited nuke exchange it is likely game over. There would be a nuclear winter and few would survive. There is a good argument for unilateral disarmament and Corbyn and others have made the case for it in the past. It's not an argument I personally agree with but it has some logical merit. However the argument that we have nuclear weapons but tell everyone one that we won't actually use them is totally illogical. The nuclear deterrent is there not just to deter nuclear attack but conventional attack also and it only works if the possible attacker believes you may use it." You adhere to the MAD philosophy no doubt. Ive come to a conclusion that the galaxy is devoid of sentient life because all sentient species reach this bottle neck of the nuclear age and get no further .The galaxy is full of dead planets and dead civilisations .We are heading the same way because we are jealous flag waving monkeys with thermonuclear weapons and we vote for the most psychotic leader. | |||
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"I thought about how much the audience were in favour of murdering humans...that subdued the audience so much it nearly made me chuckle lol The question was whether he would retaliate in the event of a nuclear attack. This was not a question of "murdering humans" but of national defence, and he flunked it. If you remember the Jeremy Paxman interview, he also refused to say whether he would be willing to authorise a drone strike on a terrorist in say, Pakistan or Afghanistan, that was planning or had carried out attacks on UK citizens (for example, Jihadi John). Again a total failure, which he attempted to divert with some rubbish about "knowing all the facts". The man is at best a pacifist, and at worst a terrorist sympathiser (oh yes he most certainly is). Either way he is totally unfit to lead our country at any time, but especially given the terror threat that we face now and in the future. " why are people so hung up on nukes? Press the button to bomb who? The people bombing Britain now are British should he nuke Manchester? What you're saying is rubbish..Corbyn said he would look to where isis Nd others are getting there money from and stop that unlike the prime minister selling weapons to the Saudis ..the very people who fund isis where do you think those weapons are gona end up? | |||
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"Wtf do u mean why why not if a country sends a nuclear bomb to the uk to kill millions and u say why retaliate r u insane to stop a second third bomb cuming Seriously if we ever get into even a limited nuke exchange it is likely game over. There would be a nuclear winter and few would survive. There is a good argument for unilateral disarmament and Corbyn and others have made the case for it in the past. It's not an argument I personally agree with but it has some logical merit. However the argument that we have nuclear weapons but tell everyone one that we won't actually use them is totally illogical. The nuclear deterrent is there not just to deter nuclear attack but conventional attack also and it only works if the possible attacker believes you may use it." Ironic isn't it, I bet there is quite an overlap between those leave voters that agree that revealing your hand might jeopardise your negotiating position, and those that think Corbyn should come out on whether or not he will press the big red button on the nukes. -Matt | |||
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"Funny that we worry more about someone who is conscious about the responsibility than we worry about someone who would use the nuclear deterrent against a now non existent "enemy." I have to agree" Ditto.. | |||
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"at the end of the day theres only one person who can press that button and hes in the white house.. " Exactly | |||
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"Wtf do u mean why why not if a country sends a nuclear bomb to the uk to kill millions and u say why retaliate r u insane to stop a second third bomb cuming " I asked why because you only answered half my question, if you see: "So what would you're reply have been to the same question and why?" So stop getting excited its only a forum lol. I simply wanted to see your POV so I could reply accordingly but I think your reply is enough haha | |||
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"Funny that we worry more about someone who is conscious about the responsibility than we worry about someone who would use the nuclear deterrent against a now non existent "enemy." What happened to the big bad Russians narrative? Also North Korea are a very real nuclear threat. Kim Jong Un is nuts and wouldn't think twice about hitting the red button either for a first strike or in retaliation to an attack. No amount of Pacifist clap trap from hippy Corbyn could negotiate or Persuade North Korea to disarm either. " If Kim Jong Un is nuts then why would Corbyn saying he would retaliate dissuade him from launching an attack? Honestly, anyone who carries out a nuclear attack is going to be well aware that there will be consequences. No one is going to think that because the British PM is reluctant to use nukes, then they can go out and do whatever they want and get away with it. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert." So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start?" Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader." Because his policies have been tried before and failed | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start?" Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union." it probably goes further back than that, colonization and installed dictator governments didnt help either. but the deep state arms sales to known militias fuelled the war.... | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union." You've been watching Rambo 3 too much. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. You've been watching Rambo 3 too much. " true story where u think got story from? | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. it probably goes further back than that, colonization and installed dictator governments didnt help either. but the deep state arms sales to known militias fuelled the war...." Well you could blame Winston churchill for drawing the map of the middle east in a cafe in jordan.Hence all the straight lines.Or like you said placing dictatorships in saudi and iran(That was winston again) to control the oil. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. it probably goes further back than that, colonization and installed dictator governments didnt help either. but the deep state arms sales to known militias fuelled the war....Well you could blame Winston churchill for drawing the map of the middle east in a cafe in jordan.Hence all the straight lines.Or like you said placing dictatorships in saudi and iran(That was winston again) to control the oil." yes and gentlemens agreement that saudi arabia could do what they wish without any comuppance. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. You've been watching Rambo 3 too much. " How do you think the mujadeen got hold of American stinger missles.Its well documented the CIA sent billions in arms to Islamists.Thatchers goverment was infavour of this.It was the cold war.This was the beginning and osama bin laden was meeting with the CIA.The CIA even built him underground training facilities for fighters in a town called khost. Robin cook our foreign Secretary said this "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the '80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan." | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. You've been watching Rambo 3 too much. How do you think the mujadeen got hold of American stinger missles.Its well documented the CIA sent billions in arms to Islamists.Thatchers goverment was infavour of this.It was the cold war.This was the beginning and osama bin laden was meeting with the CIA.The CIA even built him underground training facilities for fighters in a town called khost. Robin cook our foreign Secretary said this "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the '80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan." " theres even videos of maggie talking to them,thanking them on their quest for glory. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Reagan and Thatcher. During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. You3've been watching Rambo 3 too much. " For someone so rabidly right wing you know little about what has been going on...? As said the stingers were given by the CIA to live test on the Russians, not all though we're used and some are still in the hands of who knows who? | |||
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"When I asked about everyones view about Question Time, it was to see how everyone thought they had done, instead someone jumped on the 1 of MANY issues which was nuclear action and the rest all followed suit. Its embarrassing that in this day and age when we call ourselves an evolved species perhaps a developed and advanced nation that the masses are kept behind in their ability to critique. We follow the tabloid press, we share rumours and indignations at work and we watch the news that programs us to feel and react as they see fit. SO MANY policies and issues were discussed in that program yesterday. SO MANY responses revealed a lot about the characters of these individuals and yet there are those that simply focused on 1 issue and based their whole observations on that single point of view. Its hypocritical then for us to question the rest of the world for their culture and reactions to us and our policies and behaviour when we see ourselves above them and yet our humanity is no different. Education and maturity is certainly needed in many places not just abroad that is for sure. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in behaviour, body language and morality. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in integrity. I myself was a lib dem supporter in the past, not because I follow 1 party but because I change my views based on the parties policies and integrities. In the past the lib den very wisely and correctly chose to go againt and illegal war that resulted in the murder of millions of innocents and still does to this day. I was against the false reasons for wars around that same rhetoric which was designed not to save us or make us safer from any false conjecture but to simply give us an endless supply of lithium for our batteries and other such minerals and valuables. I saw yesterday how 1 leader stood with his integrity and policies that he has remained steadfast too for 40 years and a policies which history even now sees as correct, making him the wise man after all and a woman who changes her mind and blows and changes her direction faster than a magicians act on BGT. She on the same night was rightly interrogated on her manifestos cap or not on the dementia tax and she changed her views to the surprise of Dimbleby. It amazes me as someone that would vote conservative, as I gain a lot from being a higher tax payer chooses to vote for the better of our country as a whole and thus the wider world as a whole while the rest that should vote for integrity and a better society choose to either vote for the tories or choose to simply focus on 1 mans views on not fighting fire with fire. The question I believe was if someone attacks us with nuclear weapons should we. He didn't say yes and he didn't say no. He kept his cards to his chest but he also didn't say Yes showing that as hollywood would like to portray the president in movies, this isn't an easy decision nor a decision to be taken wisely. Its a decision to be taken based on the time and the information at hand, there could be endless reasons an attack is fired, 1 even being computer hacking, which he rightly pointed out is a greater threat now, we are not in cold war 60s territory here. He rightly gave the response any mature world leader with an ounce of wisdom should which was not to give an answer. This tells a lot about the wisdom of the man and thus how much of a leader he already is. So short sighted is the human psyche that we look only at today and forget the past and believe the future never comes for a wise man knows that the past mistake of leaders is a tool to learn from so that we do not make the same mistakes in the future. If you want to save me taxes vote Conservative and ill thank you. If you want to make this UK of ours better and to thus make the world better vote Labour ONLY because of Jeremy Corbyn. The other parties right now is a failed vote and a wasted vote, no point right now voting for them, there is time in the future for that. 1 more thing, seriously stop believing we will ever leave brexit but even if we do (which goes against the elite) then do you think after the way the points of reduced between JC and TM, and the way that she performed yesterday any one in brexit will think much of her position as a shrewd negotiator now? Her whole point for this election was to get a stronger untied front towards a stronger brexit....well she's lost that completely and I should know, my friends in the EU say as much. anyway thanks for reading. Now to change the topic away from nuclear war, does anyone actually have any views about the program and its other content and views rather than just 1 solitary topic raised? lol" Read what you wrote and it appears you concentrated on 1 issue | |||
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"When I asked about everyones view about Question Time, it was to see how everyone thought they had done, instead someone jumped on the 1 of MANY issues which was nuclear action and the rest all followed suit. Its embarrassing that in this day and age when we call ourselves an evolved species perhaps a developed and advanced nation that the masses are kept behind in their ability to critique. We follow the tabloid press, we share rumours and indignations at work and we watch the news that programs us to feel and react as they see fit. SO MANY policies and issues were discussed in that program yesterday. SO MANY responses revealed a lot about the characters of these individuals and yet there are those that simply focused on 1 issue and based their whole observations on that single point of view. Its hypocritical then for us to question the rest of the world for their culture and reactions to us and our policies and behaviour when we see ourselves above them and yet our humanity is no different. Education and maturity is certainly needed in many places not just abroad that is for sure. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in behaviour, body language and morality. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in integrity. I myself was a lib dem supporter in the past, not because I follow 1 party but because I change my views based on the parties policies and integrities. In the past the lib den very wisely and correctly chose to go againt and illegal war that resulted in the murder of millions of innocents and still does to this day. I was against the false reasons for wars around that same rhetoric which was designed not to save us or make us safer from any false conjecture but to simply give us an endless supply of lithium for our batteries and other such minerals and valuables. I saw yesterday how 1 leader stood with his integrity and policies that he has remained steadfast too for 40 years and a policies which history even now sees as correct, making him the wise man after all and a woman who changes her mind and blows and changes her direction faster than a magicians act on BGT. She on the same night was rightly interrogated on her manifestos cap or not on the dementia tax and she changed her views to the surprise of Dimbleby. It amazes me as someone that would vote conservative, as I gain a lot from being a higher tax payer chooses to vote for the better of our country as a whole and thus the wider world as a whole while the rest that should vote for integrity and a better society choose to either vote for the tories or choose to simply focus on 1 mans views on not fighting fire with fire. The question I believe was if someone attacks us with nuclear weapons should we. He didn't say yes and he didn't say no. He kept his cards to his chest but he also didn't say Yes showing that as hollywood would like to portray the president in movies, this isn't an easy decision nor a decision to be taken wisely. Its a decision to be taken based on the time and the information at hand, there could be endless reasons an attack is fired, 1 even being computer hacking, which he rightly pointed out is a greater threat now, we are not in cold war 60s territory here. He rightly gave the response any mature world leader with an ounce of wisdom should which was not to give an answer. This tells a lot about the wisdom of the man and thus how much of a leader he already is. So short sighted is the human psyche that we look only at today and forget the past and believe the future never comes for a wise man knows that the past mistake of leaders is a tool to learn from so that we do not make the same mistakes in the future. If you want to save me taxes vote Conservative and ill thank you. If you want to make this UK of ours better and to thus make the world better vote Labour ONLY because of Jeremy Corbyn. The other parties right now is a failed vote and a wasted vote, no point right now voting for them, there is time in the future for that. 1 more thing, seriously stop believing we will ever leave brexit but even if we do (which goes against the elite) then do you think after the way the points of reduced between JC and TM, and the way that she performed yesterday any one in brexit will think much of her position as a shrewd negotiator now? Her whole point for this election was to get a stronger untied front towards a stronger brexit....well she's lost that completely and I should know, my friends in the EU say as much. anyway thanks for reading. Now to change the topic away from nuclear war, does anyone actually have any views about the program and its other content and views rather than just 1 solitary topic raised? lol Read what you wrote and it appears you concentrated on 1 issue " | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed" Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr | |||
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"When I asked about everyones view about Question Time, it was to see how everyone thought they had done, instead someone jumped on the 1 of MANY issues which was nuclear action and the rest all followed suit. Its embarrassing that in this day and age when we call ourselves an evolved species perhaps a developed and advanced nation that the masses are kept behind in their ability to critique. We follow the tabloid press, we share rumours and indignations at work and we watch the news that programs us to feel and react as they see fit. SO MANY policies and issues were discussed in that program yesterday. SO MANY responses revealed a lot about the characters of these individuals and yet there are those that simply focused on 1 issue and based their whole observations on that single point of view. Its hypocritical then for us to question the rest of the world for their culture and reactions to us and our policies and behaviour when we see ourselves above them and yet our humanity is no different. Education and maturity is certainly needed in many places not just abroad that is for sure. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in behaviour, body language and morality. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in integrity. I myself was a lib dem supporter in the past, not because I follow 1 party but because I change my views based on the parties policies and integrities. In the past the lib den very wisely and correctly chose to go againt and illegal war that resulted in the murder of millions of innocents and still does to this day. I was against the false reasons for wars around that same rhetoric which was designed not to save us or make us safer from any false conjecture but to simply give us an endless supply of lithium for our batteries and other such minerals and valuables. I saw yesterday how 1 leader stood with his integrity and policies that he has remained steadfast too for 40 years and a policies which history even now sees as correct, making him the wise man after all and a woman who changes her mind and blows and changes her direction faster than a magicians act on BGT. She on the same night was rightly interrogated on her manifestos cap or not on the dementia tax and she changed her views to the surprise of Dimbleby. It amazes me as someone that would vote conservative, as I gain a lot from being a higher tax payer chooses to vote for the better of our country as a whole and thus the wider world as a whole while the rest that should vote for integrity and a better society choose to either vote for the tories or choose to simply focus on 1 mans views on not fighting fire with fire. The question I believe was if someone attacks us with nuclear weapons should we. He didn't say yes and he didn't say no. He kept his cards to his chest but he also didn't say Yes showing that as hollywood would like to portray the president in movies, this isn't an easy decision nor a decision to be taken wisely. Its a decision to be taken based on the time and the information at hand, there could be endless reasons an attack is fired, 1 even being computer hacking, which he rightly pointed out is a greater threat now, we are not in cold war 60s territory here. He rightly gave the response any mature world leader with an ounce of wisdom should which was not to give an answer. This tells a lot about the wisdom of the man and thus how much of a leader he already is. So short sighted is the human psyche that we look only at today and forget the past and believe the future never comes for a wise man knows that the past mistake of leaders is a tool to learn from so that we do not make the same mistakes in the future. If you want to save me taxes vote Conservative and ill thank you. If you want to make this UK of ours better and to thus make the world better vote Labour ONLY because of Jeremy Corbyn. The other parties right now is a failed vote and a wasted vote, no point right now voting for them, there is time in the future for that. 1 more thing, seriously stop believing we will ever leave brexit but even if we do (which goes against the elite) then do you think after the way the points of reduced between JC and TM, and the way that she performed yesterday any one in brexit will think much of her position as a shrewd negotiator now? Her whole point for this election was to get a stronger untied front towards a stronger brexit....well she's lost that completely and I should know, my friends in the EU say as much. anyway thanks for reading. Now to change the topic away from nuclear war, does anyone actually have any views about the program and its other content and views rather than just 1 solitary topic raised? lol" Very Interesting... Completely right when referring to pushing or not the red button: JC didn't say something to please and was consistent, which makes him reliable at least on that aspect. Funnily enough TM keeps dressing in red for the Q's & A's; it reminds me the red (aiming to labour I guess) bus with the 350million a week lie (courtesy of a clown called Boris Johnson; the UKIP needs a leader, which could well be him) during the brexit campaign: fishing again for labour support? | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr" Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. " Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer " Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn" Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. | |||
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"When I asked about everyones view about Question Time, it was to see how everyone thought they had done, instead someone jumped on the 1 of MANY issues which was nuclear action and the rest all followed suit. Its embarrassing that in this day and age when we call ourselves an evolved species perhaps a developed and advanced nation that the masses are kept behind in their ability to critique. We follow the tabloid press, we share rumours and indignations at work and we watch the news that programs us to feel and react as they see fit. SO MANY policies and issues were discussed in that program yesterday. SO MANY responses revealed a lot about the characters of these individuals and yet there are those that simply focused on 1 issue and based their whole observations on that single point of view. Its hypocritical then for us to question the rest of the world for their culture and reactions to us and our policies and behaviour when we see ourselves above them and yet our humanity is no different. Education and maturity is certainly needed in many places not just abroad that is for sure. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in behaviour, body language and morality. What I saw from these politicians was a difference in integrity. I myself was a lib dem supporter in the past, not because I follow 1 party but because I change my views based on the parties policies and integrities. In the past the lib den very wisely and correctly chose to go againt and illegal war that resulted in the murder of millions of innocents and still does to this day. I was against the false reasons for wars around that same rhetoric which was designed not to save us or make us safer from any false conjecture but to simply give us an endless supply of lithium for our batteries and other such minerals and valuables. I saw yesterday how 1 leader stood with his integrity and policies that he has remained steadfast too for 40 years and a policies which history even now sees as correct, making him the wise man after all and a woman who changes her mind and blows and changes her direction faster than a magicians act on BGT. She on the same night was rightly interrogated on her manifestos cap or not on the dementia tax and she changed her views to the surprise of Dimbleby. It amazes me as someone that would vote conservative, as I gain a lot from being a higher tax payer chooses to vote for the better of our country as a whole and thus the wider world as a whole while the rest that should vote for integrity and a better society choose to either vote for the tories or choose to simply focus on 1 mans views on not fighting fire with fire. The question I believe was if someone attacks us with nuclear weapons should we. He didn't say yes and he didn't say no. He kept his cards to his chest but he also didn't say Yes showing that as hollywood would like to portray the president in movies, this isn't an easy decision nor a decision to be taken wisely. Its a decision to be taken based on the time and the information at hand, there could be endless reasons an attack is fired, 1 even being computer hacking, which he rightly pointed out is a greater threat now, we are not in cold war 60s territory here. He rightly gave the response any mature world leader with an ounce of wisdom should which was not to give an answer. This tells a lot about the wisdom of the man and thus how much of a leader he already is. So short sighted is the human psyche that we look only at today and forget the past and believe the future never comes for a wise man knows that the past mistake of leaders is a tool to learn from so that we do not make the same mistakes in the future. If you want to save me taxes vote Conservative and ill thank you. If you want to make this UK of ours better and to thus make the world better vote Labour ONLY because of Jeremy Corbyn. The other parties right now is a failed vote and a wasted vote, no point right now voting for them, there is time in the future for that. 1 more thing, seriously stop believing we will ever leave brexit but even if we do (which goes against the elite) then do you think after the way the points of reduced between JC and TM, and the way that she performed yesterday any one in brexit will think much of her position as a shrewd negotiator now? Her whole point for this election was to get a stronger untied front towards a stronger brexit....well she's lost that completely and I should know, my friends in the EU say as much. anyway thanks for reading. Now to change the topic away from nuclear war, does anyone actually have any views about the program and its other content and views rather than just 1 solitary topic raised? lol Very Interesting... Completely right when referring to pushing or not the red button: JC didn't say something to please and was consistent, which makes him reliable at least on that aspect. Funnily enough TM keeps dressing in red for the Q's & A's; it reminds me the red (aiming to labour I guess) bus with the 350million a week lie (courtesy of a clown called Boris Johnson; the UKIP needs a leader, which could well be him) during the brexit campaign: fishing again for labour support?" That's just not true though is it. One of the founding members of Vote Leave was Labour MP Gisela Stuart. She started it and set it up in the beginning that's why the colour scheme of vote Leave was red and white because she was a Labour MP. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. " Yes we've had this conversation before which is why i put the comment about being pussy whipped by the unions in. Otherwise he's the 'i can't believe it's not Tony Benn' butter of the labour party. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. Yes we've had this conversation before which is why i put the comment about being pussy whipped by the unions in. Otherwise he's the 'i can't believe it's not Tony Benn' butter of the labour party. " You could say the same of may.A remainer taking us out.I cant believe its not maggie Thatcher butter of the cons. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. Yes we've had this conversation before which is why i put the comment about being pussy whipped by the unions in. Otherwise he's the 'i can't believe it's not Tony Benn' butter of the labour party. You could say the same of may.A remainer taking us out.I cant believe its not maggie Thatcher butter of the cons. " Errr no, maggie believed in free trade and was a supply side economist at heart. May is much more interventionist. Quite striking differences on economic outlook really. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. Yes we've had this conversation before which is why i put the comment about being pussy whipped by the unions in. Otherwise he's the 'i can't believe it's not Tony Benn' butter of the labour party. You could say the same of may.A remainer taking us out.I cant believe its not maggie Thatcher butter of the cons. Errr no, maggie believed in free trade and was a supply side economist at heart. May is much more interventionist. Quite striking differences on economic outlook really. " She's Maggie 2.0 .Upgraded | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. Yes we've had this conversation before which is why i put the comment about being pussy whipped by the unions in. Otherwise he's the 'i can't believe it's not Tony Benn' butter of the labour party. You could say the same of may.A remainer taking us out.I cant believe its not maggie Thatcher butter of the cons. Errr no, maggie believed in free trade and was a supply side economist at heart. May is much more interventionist. Quite striking differences on economic outlook really. " The key thing is Theresa May is a democrat. She voted Remain but she accepts democracy and the British people voted to Leave. She is determined to carry out the democratic will of the British people and respect the result of the referendum which is also to respect democracy. | |||
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"lets not forget that it was tory foreign policy and also May as home secretary to allow the manchester bomber to travel freely to arm, fight and train in libya to overthrow gaddafi and then come here to bomb and kill innocent children, and others whilst going to a popconcert. So what would Labour have done differently? Why did 7/7 happen and under whose watch did all this shit start? Tony Blair's labour is a very different party compared to Jeremy corbyns labour. Why do you think Tony Blair and lots of the old Blair government politicians don't back Jeremy corbyn and been trying their best to get rid of him since day one of him becoming leader. Because his policies have been tried before and failed Which policies of Corbyn's have been tried before and failed? Mr Jeremey Corbyn is just the reincarnation of Tony Benn. Just a but more pussy whipped by the unions now because he's achieved more than his hero. Utter tripe dont get me wrong he has his faults But don't trust may and her cronies she is hiding something and at heart she is remainer Ok give me a breakdown of the top 3 differences between the views of Tony Benn and Jeremy Corbyn Tony Benn would have stuck to his anti EU principles and would've joined the Leave campaign to back Brexit. Corbyn is just a snivelling spineless sell out who opposed the EU his whole career then turned his back on his principles and backed the Remain campaign. Yes we've had this conversation before which is why i put the comment about being pussy whipped by the unions in. Otherwise he's the 'i can't believe it's not Tony Benn' butter of the labour party. You could say the same of may.A remainer taking us out.I cant believe its not maggie Thatcher butter of the cons. Errr no, maggie believed in free trade and was a supply side economist at heart. May is much more interventionist. Quite striking differences on economic outlook really. The key thing is Theresa May is a democrat. She voted Remain but she accepts democracy and the British people voted to Leave. She is determined to carry out the democratic will of the British people and respect the result of the referendum which is also to respect democracy. " Soon to be big brother... | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl " You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad" I know | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know " see your writing your usual crap | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap " Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure" No it doesn't sound like a joke, it sounds like someone has been locked in a room with nothing but a year's supply of the Sun and Mail and lost their mind. -Matt | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure" are we talking 1984 now or 1974..as i thought we we're headed to the 70s with corbyn rather than the 50s retrotopia of the brexiters which had more gulags.This political time travel is twisting my melon man... | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure No it doesn't sound like a joke, it sounds like someone has been locked in a room with nothing but a year's supply of the Sun and Mail and lost their mind. -Matt" They are both Marxists aren't they? Maybe you should learn something about it and the supression of the individuals rights. Take your rose tinted glass off and your head out of the sand | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure are we talking 1984 now or 1974..as i thought we we're headed to the 70s with corbyn rather than the 50s retrotopia of the brexiters which had more gulags.This political time travel is twisting my melon man..." 1970's they were sending capitalist pigs to death camps in china, that's Mao - the one who wrote the little red book John and Dianne like. Sorry i meant re-education camps. | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure are we talking 1984 now or 1974..as i thought we we're headed to the 70s with corbyn rather than the 50s retrotopia of the brexiters which had more gulags.This political time travel is twisting my melon man... 1970's they were sending capitalist pigs to death camps in china, that's Mao - the one who wrote the little red book John and Dianne like. Sorry i meant re-education camps. " I thought you were investing in the communists RMB rather than the pound . | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure are we talking 1984 now or 1974..as i thought we we're headed to the 70s with corbyn rather than the 50s retrotopia of the brexiters which had more gulags.This political time travel is twisting my melon man... 1970's they were sending capitalist pigs to death camps in china, that's Mao - the one who wrote the little red book John and Dianne like. Sorry i meant re-education camps. I thought you were investing in the communists RMB rather than the pound . " Well as soon as China abandoned Mao's little red book and communism it had 40 years of double digit growth - go figure that one out. | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure are we talking 1984 now or 1974..as i thought we we're headed to the 70s with corbyn rather than the 50s retrotopia of the brexiters which had more gulags.This political time travel is twisting my melon man... 1970's they were sending capitalist pigs to death camps in china, that's Mao - the one who wrote the little red book John and Dianne like. Sorry i meant re-education camps. I thought you were investing in the communists RMB rather than the pound . Well as soon as China abandoned Mao's little red book and communism it had 40 years of double digit growth - go figure that one out. " So are they socialists or communists or capitist ...? For China capitalism is a tool to deliver socialism and one party rule us the stability required to implement it. Yet you loathe the left..but cant help investing. . | |||
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"May had another easy ride, largely ducking the questions asked. That's why she should have been grilled by the other leaders. Corbyn appears more honest and trustworthy - as well as knowing what he's doing, than the desperate May Honest and trustworthy? Pmsl You'll be headed to the gulag when he gets in comrad I know see your writing your usual crap Really? It might sound like a joke but if Corbyn and McDonnal had the chance political opponents would be locked up for sure are we talking 1984 now or 1974..as i thought we we're headed to the 70s with corbyn rather than the 50s retrotopia of the brexiters which had more gulags.This political time travel is twisting my melon man... 1970's they were sending capitalist pigs to death camps in china, that's Mao - the one who wrote the little red book John and Dianne like. Sorry i meant re-education camps. I thought you were investing in the communists RMB rather than the pound . Well as soon as China abandoned Mao's little red book and communism it had 40 years of double digit growth - go figure that one out. So are they socialists or communists or capitist ...? For China capitalism is a tool to deliver socialism and one party rule us the stability required to implement it. Yet you loathe the left..but cant help investing. . " Their economy is state capitalist, like Russia and to a lesser extent, Japan. As for their politics, there's no national healthcare, no unemployment benefits, no council houses and there is a limit on how many children you can have. So not as left wing as you'd like to think. | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different " I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. " i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out" This is more of the simplistic point of view we keep getting from lefties. Your like corbyn who won't admit that not every nuclear threat can be solved over a cup of tea or all the idiots who can't distinguish the different power factions in saudi arabia. You only think he did something wrong because you refuse to seriously consider what china would look like if the protesters had gotten their own way. | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out This is more of the simplistic point of view we keep getting from lefties. Your like corbyn who won't admit that not every nuclear threat can be solved over a cup of tea or all the idiots who can't distinguish the different power factions in saudi arabia. You only think he did something wrong because you refuse to seriously consider what china would look like if the protesters had gotten their own way. " How many body bags are statically acceptable .? Are you channelling your inner Stalin. "1 death is a tragedy 1 million is a statistic." | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out This is more of the simplistic point of view we keep getting from lefties. Your like corbyn who won't admit that not every nuclear threat can be solved over a cup of tea or all the idiots who can't distinguish the different power factions in saudi arabia. You only think he did something wrong because you refuse to seriously consider what china would look like if the protesters had gotten their own way. How many body bags are statically acceptable .? Are you channelling your inner Stalin. "1 death is a tragedy 1 million is a statistic." " it's the new google statistcs goggles that they wear .... they filter out all natural light frequencies so they can see the world purely through analytical algorithms .... all the hipster economists are wearing them these days dontcha know | |||
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"you've only read about the soviet era from books, mostly because you were still shitting in your nappies at that time and never went there ... the reality was very different to your perception of it. you aren't in posession of as many of the facts as you think" How many months have you spent in china? | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out This is more of the simplistic point of view we keep getting from lefties. Your like corbyn who won't admit that not every nuclear threat can be solved over a cup of tea or all the idiots who can't distinguish the different power factions in saudi arabia. You only think he did something wrong because you refuse to seriously consider what china would look like if the protesters had gotten their own way. How many body bags are statically acceptable .? Are you channelling your inner Stalin. "1 death is a tragedy 1 million is a statistic." " How many died last time China had a civil war? Most Chinese people prefer stability over access to facebook. The protesters were idealistic students who had a terrible set of ideas. Did they derserve to die - no. Is it a good thing their ideas died with them - yes. | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out This is more of the simplistic point of view we keep getting from lefties. Your like corbyn who won't admit that not every nuclear threat can be solved over a cup of tea or all the idiots who can't distinguish the different power factions in saudi arabia. You only think he did something wrong because you refuse to seriously consider what china would look like if the protesters had gotten their own way. How many body bags are statically acceptable .? Are you channelling your inner Stalin. "1 death is a tragedy 1 million is a statistic." How many died last time China had a civil war? Most Chinese people prefer stability over access to facebook. The protesters were idealistic students who had a terrible set of ideas. Did they derserve to die - no. Is it a good thing their ideas died with them - yes. " Killing kids for the greater good, is that a liberal policy | |||
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"I thought about how much the audience were in favour of murdering humans...that subdued the audience so much it nearly made me chuckle lol The question was whether he would retaliate in the event of a nuclear attack. This was not a question of "murdering humans" but of national defence, and he flunked it. If you remember the Jeremy Paxman interview, he also refused to say whether he would be willing to authorise a drone strike on a terrorist in say, Pakistan or Afghanistan, that was planning or had carried out attacks on UK citizens (for example, Jihadi John). Again a total failure, which he attempted to divert with some rubbish about "knowing all the facts". The man is at best a pacifist, and at worst a terrorist sympathiser (oh yes he most certainly is). Either way he is totally unfit to lead our country at any time, but especially given the terror threat that we face now and in the future. " agree wholeheartedly | |||
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"it's clear that when hundreds of thousands of the most highly educated students, lecturers, professors etc take to the central parks to peacefully call for more liberties, that you're going to look like a really selfish and cuntish dictator when you send in a panzer division and a few infantry regiments to start shooting them dead .... pretty simple really" So i take it you haven't been to china then. Don't worry, i never went to the soviet union either. Just out of interest. Can you think of any countries run by dictators where democracy, rather than economic rebuilding, was thrust upon the country by a minority and the country managed to end up worse than when the dictator ruled it? | |||
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"it's easy being a tourist holidaymaker in a totalitarian state .... the thin vaneer of how wonderful it all is panders to the tourists every whim .... but working in one is quite a lot different I sincerely doubt you know much about the inner workings of china. The government only really uses and abuses it's power against people that threaten the party. 99% of chinese people live their daily life with indifference to the party and have no problems. The vast majority are not remotely interested in democracy although they would like a welfare state. i'm guessing you were 3 years old when the whole world watched as deng xioaping had 26000 students massacred live on global TV for sitting down in a park asking for a modicum of liberty .... i think it's fair to say that they are still too scared of their government to speak out This is more of the simplistic point of view we keep getting from lefties. Your like corbyn who won't admit that not every nuclear threat can be solved over a cup of tea or all the idiots who can't distinguish the different power factions in saudi arabia. You only think he did something wrong because you refuse to seriously consider what china would look like if the protesters had gotten their own way. How many body bags are statically acceptable .? Are you channelling your inner Stalin. "1 death is a tragedy 1 million is a statistic." How many died last time China had a civil war? Most Chinese people prefer stability over access to facebook. The protesters were idealistic students who had a terrible set of ideas. Did they derserve to die - no. Is it a good thing their ideas died with them - yes. Killing kids for the greater good, is that a liberal policy " What do you think world war two was if not that? | |||
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"How many months have you spent in china? " actually i did two 3 week trips to china in the 70's and 80's as part of the ysgol gyfun glamorgan choir .... they were part of the UN cultural exchange program ... why? is it a contest? | |||
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"How many months have you spent in china? actually i did two 3 week trips to china in the 70's and 80's as part of the ysgol gyfun glamorgan choir .... they were part of the UN cultural exchange program ... why? is it a contest?" You should go again now, you'll see the benefits of slaughtering a few pesky protesters now and then. | |||
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"I lived and worked in hong kong for 3 years and had 6 mths travelling china. I also took the trans Siberian back.The idea you want dead i can tell was alive and well in the 90s when i was there. " Yeah hong kong is much more favourable to democracy, but it's a mature, developed economy and could manage it. Outside the east coast, china just isn't ready. Look how thick the average british voter is, then look at the average chinese peasant! | |||
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"How many months have you spent in china? actually i did two 3 week trips to china in the 70's and 80's as part of the ysgol gyfun glamorgan choir .... they were part of the UN cultural exchange program ... why? is it a contest? You should go again now, you'll see the benefits of slaughtering a few pesky protesters now and then. " how is you mate mr mao these days? | |||
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"How many months have you spent in china? actually i did two 3 week trips to china in the 70's and 80's as part of the ysgol gyfun glamorgan choir .... they were part of the UN cultural exchange program ... why? is it a contest? You should go again now, you'll see the benefits of slaughtering a few pesky protesters now and then. how is you mate mr mao these days?" Mao is a complex one isn't he, he's more stupid than evil in my opinion. Very different to old Adolph but often put in the same box. | |||
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"How many months have you spent in china? actually i did two 3 week trips to china in the 70's and 80's as part of the ysgol gyfun glamorgan choir .... they were part of the UN cultural exchange program ... why? is it a contest? You should go again now, you'll see the benefits of slaughtering a few pesky protesters now and then. how is you mate mr mao these days? Mao is a complex one isn't he, he's more stupid than evil in my opinion. Very different to old Adolph but often put in the same box. " you sound as though you're related to him .... he was an advocate of shooting post graduate university students ... convenient idea for those of a dictatorial disposition but still a dumb-arsed one | |||
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