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"Reduce the population lmao how the hell can that happen ban aving kids ?" The birthrate in this country is below 2 children per couple. If it wasn't for immigrants it would be declining already. | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing?" Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing? Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes How is paying higher and higher prices for property having more money? We have been conned in a way. Housing must be the only commodity where we are glad to see a price rise. " Indeed, it's the nation's ponzi scheme, but once you're in it... | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing? Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes How is paying higher and higher prices for property having more money? We have been conned in a way. Housing must be the only commodity where we are glad to see a price rise. Indeed, it's the nation's ponzi scheme, but once you're in it... " Fair point and negative equity would be a disaster. I'm just thinking out loud really, that if house prices hadn't risen so much, how much extra money would be spent in the wider economy, creating jobs and allowing people to have more available cash/better lifestyles? | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing? Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes How is paying higher and higher prices for property having more money? We have been conned in a way. Housing must be the only commodity where we are glad to see a price rise. Indeed, it's the nation's ponzi scheme, but once you're in it... Fair point and negative equity would be a disaster. I'm just thinking out loud really, that if house prices hadn't risen so much, how much extra money would be spent in the wider economy, creating jobs and allowing people to have more available cash/better lifestyles? " I don't think so, it's mainly paper money really. Your house goes up massively but so does everyone elses. But you can borrow against it when you need to and other such benefits. | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing? Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes How is paying higher and higher prices for property having more money? We have been conned in a way. Housing must be the only commodity where we are glad to see a price rise. Indeed, it's the nation's ponzi scheme, but once you're in it... Fair point and negative equity would be a disaster. I'm just thinking out loud really, that if house prices hadn't risen so much, how much extra money would be spent in the wider economy, creating jobs and allowing people to have more available cash/better lifestyles? I don't think so, it's mainly paper money really. Your house goes up massively but so does everyone elses. But you can borrow against it when you need to and other such benefits. " True but its a dangerous game now. I bought my first home in the 80's for £14k while my salary was £12k and ok interest rates were a lot higher, about 12% I think, but if interest rates rose by just 3 or 4% now, and who's to say they won't/can't, then the whole ponzi scheme will collapse | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing? Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes How is paying higher and higher prices for property having more money? We have been conned in a way. Housing must be the only commodity where we are glad to see a price rise. Indeed, it's the nation's ponzi scheme, but once you're in it... Fair point and negative equity would be a disaster. I'm just thinking out loud really, that if house prices hadn't risen so much, how much extra money would be spent in the wider economy, creating jobs and allowing people to have more available cash/better lifestyles? I don't think so, it's mainly paper money really. Your house goes up massively but so does everyone elses. But you can borrow against it when you need to and other such benefits. True but its a dangerous game now. I bought my first home in the 80's for £14k while my salary was £12k and ok interest rates were a lot higher, about 12% I think, but if interest rates rose by just 3 or 4% now, and who's to say they won't/can't, then the whole ponzi scheme will collapse " If interest rates rise to that then the governmnet will spend more on debt interest than education. The whole of the developed world is being kept on life support by low interest rates. So yes it would collapse and a lot of other things with it | |||
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"He is a bit thick but if everyones house was devalued, would that be such a bad thing? Since most people prefer to have more money than less money, yes How is paying higher and higher prices for property having more money? We have been conned in a way. Housing must be the only commodity where we are glad to see a price rise. Indeed, it's the nation's ponzi scheme, but once you're in it... Fair point and negative equity would be a disaster. I'm just thinking out loud really, that if house prices hadn't risen so much, how much extra money would be spent in the wider economy, creating jobs and allowing people to have more available cash/better lifestyles? I don't think so, it's mainly paper money really. Your house goes up massively but so does everyone elses. But you can borrow against it when you need to and other such benefits. True but its a dangerous game now. I bought my first home in the 80's for £14k while my salary was £12k and ok interest rates were a lot higher, about 12% I think, but if interest rates rose by just 3 or 4% now, and who's to say they won't/can't, then the whole ponzi scheme will collapse If interest rates rise to that then the governmnet will spend more on debt interest than education. The whole of the developed world is being kept on life support by low interest rates. So yes it would collapse and a lot of other things with it " I know and I guess I'm just having a moan. Its like the 10, 20, 30 grand plus that millions of kids are having to save for deposits, because they have been told its the right thing to do, which is dead money really and money taken out of the economy and frankly could be better spent down the pub | |||
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"I would build 5 million affordable new homes.Which will be a boost to the economic situation and reduce the price of property.Its a supply and demand issue." Good idea. And at the same time reduce immigration obviously, otherwise you're trying to fill a bath without a plug, for want of a better analogy | |||
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"I would build 5 million affordable new homes.Which will be a boost to the economic situation and reduce the price of property.Its a supply and demand issue." What's the definition of an affordable home? | |||
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"I would build 5 million affordable new homes.Which will be a boost to the economic situation and reduce the price of property.Its a supply and demand issue. What's the definition of an affordable home? " Free | |||
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"I quote from the leaders debate: "If we carry on, on the road we're on we'll have a population of 80 million by the middle of this century. Now you just think what will happen, there will have to be a huge school building programme, new hospitals, new motorways, a new rail network, new houses". Now what you have to understand is that: A) he was saying this like it's a bad thing B) he's not the leader of the green party He's basically saying "if the population grows we'll be able to afford an economic stimulus package without borrowing" and this is supposed to be a bad thing. Conversely if you want to devalue everyones house then reducing the population is pretty much the quickest way to achieve that. Is this guy really that thick? " | |||
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"I would build 5 million affordable new homes.Which will be a boost to the economic situation and reduce the price of property.Its a supply and demand issue. What's the definition of an affordable home? " 2/3 bed house significantly cheaper than national average.They could throw up property rapidly post war UK why not now.Build them as cheap as possible like 50s prefabs but with todays technology. | |||
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"I quote from the leaders debate: "If we carry on, on the road we're on we'll have a population of 80 million by the middle of this century. Now you just think what will happen, there will have to be a huge school building programme, new hospitals, new motorways, a new rail network, new houses". Now what you have to understand is that: A) he was saying this like it's a bad thing B) he's not the leader of the green party He's basically saying "if the population grows we'll be able to afford an economic stimulus package without borrowing" and this is supposed to be a bad thing. Conversely if you want to devalue everyones house then reducing the population is pretty much the quickest way to achieve that. Is this guy really that thick? " No but I think you are ! 15 million jobs lost by the middle of this century due to automation Who the fuck will be able to afford a house ! | |||
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"I quote from the leaders debate: "If we carry on, on the road we're on we'll have a population of 80 million by the middle of this century. Now you just think what will happen, there will have to be a huge school building programme, new hospitals, new motorways, a new rail network, new houses". Now what you have to understand is that: A) he was saying this like it's a bad thing B) he's not the leader of the green party He's basically saying "if the population grows we'll be able to afford an economic stimulus package without borrowing" and this is supposed to be a bad thing. Conversely if you want to devalue everyones house then reducing the population is pretty much the quickest way to achieve that. Is this guy really that thick? " No but I think you are ! 15 million jobs lost by the middle of this century due to automation Who the fuck will be able to afford a house ! | |||
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"I would build 5 million affordable new homes.Which will be a boost to the economic situation and reduce the price of property.Its a supply and demand issue. What's the definition of an affordable home? 2/3 bed house significantly cheaper than national average.They could throw up property rapidly post war UK why not now.Build them as cheap as possible like 50s prefabs but with todays technology. " Fine by me as long as they aren't built near me | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol." Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. " Ofcourse a brexitor will think they won as they cant see past the whole picture lol. | |||
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"Im surprised the housing issue wasn't more prominent in the election.A massive house building initiative would of have been a vote winner." I thought you were a green voter hardly going to be in their manifesto to build 5 million homes together with all the roads etc needed and just imagine the howls ofprotest from all those green voters living in their nice new eco friendly house when they find their view has been blocked by someone elses new home. We certainly need more homes and everyone agrees but not near them as its the "wrong place" if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. " centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless | |||
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"Im surprised the housing issue wasn't more prominent in the election.A massive house building initiative would of have been a vote winner. I thought you were a green voter hardly going to be in their manifesto to build 5 million homes together with all the roads etc needed and just imagine the howls ofprotest from all those green voters living in their nice new eco friendly house when they find their view has been blocked by someone elses new home. We certainly need more homes and everyone agrees but not near them as its the "wrong place" if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable " Yep we need more eco friendly homes 5 million will do.. Building on farm land is fine with me..Brown field sites would be better. Never forests.. | |||
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"Im surprised the housing issue wasn't more prominent in the election.A massive house building initiative would of have been a vote winner. I thought you were a green voter hardly going to be in their manifesto to build 5 million homes together with all the roads etc needed and just imagine the howls ofprotest from all those green voters living in their nice new eco friendly house when they find their view has been blocked by someone elses new home. We certainly need more homes and everyone agrees but not near them as its the "wrong place" if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable Yep we need more eco friendly homes 5 million will do.. Building on farm land is fine with me..Brown field sites would be better. Never forests.. " Are you a builder ? | |||
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"Im surprised the housing issue wasn't more prominent in the election.A massive house building initiative would of have been a vote winner. I thought you were a green voter hardly going to be in their manifesto to build 5 million homes together with all the roads etc needed and just imagine the howls ofprotest from all those green voters living in their nice new eco friendly house when they find their view has been blocked by someone elses new home. We certainly need more homes and everyone agrees but not near them as its the "wrong place" if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable Yep we need more eco friendly homes 5 million will do.. Building on farm land is fine with me..Brown field sites would be better. Never forests.. Are you a builder ? " I am. | |||
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"Im surprised the housing issue wasn't more prominent in the election.A massive house building initiative would of have been a vote winner. I thought you were a green voter hardly going to be in their manifesto to build 5 million homes together with all the roads etc needed and just imagine the howls ofprotest from all those green voters living in their nice new eco friendly house when they find their view has been blocked by someone elses new home. We certainly need more homes and everyone agrees but not near them as its the "wrong place" if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable Yep we need more eco friendly homes 5 million will do.. Building on farm land is fine with me..Brown field sites would be better. Never forests.. Are you a builder ? I am." No wonder youre rich | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless " A cat has to have a mouse to play with now and again. | |||
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"No, he's not thick - he's got a PhD and was a professional footballer, amongst other things - He just was s bit slow in stating these things publicly, on his websites etc, before the public found out that this alternative reality was bollocks. " He started a PhD in "History of Conservatism in Liverpool" but didn't finish. That's not a real subject now is it. | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless " At least we dont live in a fantasy world, not sure what a brexitor is smoking lol. | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless At least we dont live in a fantasy world, not sure what a brexitor is smoking lol." The Lib dem remain voters are certainly smoking something that's why the lib dems want to legalise it. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. " What concerns you about 80m population? | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless " The same reason we debate with him. It's a bit like bear baiting really. | |||
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"Im surprised the housing issue wasn't more prominent in the election.A massive house building initiative would of have been a vote winner. I thought you were a green voter hardly going to be in their manifesto to build 5 million homes together with all the roads etc needed and just imagine the howls ofprotest from all those green voters living in their nice new eco friendly house when they find their view has been blocked by someone elses new home. We certainly need more homes and everyone agrees but not near them as its the "wrong place" if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable Yep we need more eco friendly homes 5 million will do.. Building on farm land is fine with me..Brown field sites would be better. Never forests.. Are you a builder ? I am." And he's called Bob to!! | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless At least we dont live in a fantasy world, not sure what a brexitor is smoking lol. The Lib dem remain voters are certainly smoking something that's why the lib dems want to legalise it. " Going to change the name to SplifDem for the next election. | |||
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"Yes he is, he is a brexitor after all lol. Who happened to be on the winning side of the EU referendum. How much more thick does that make you Remainers look getting beat by a thicko like Nuttall. centaur why do debate with these morons it is pointless The same reason we debate with him. It's a bit like bear baiting really. " Likewise | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? " It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. " The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion." Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours." That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts." Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.." No you love uncontrolled mass immigration so you just want to concrete over it all and build more houses for them. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours." But in the UK only 2% of buildings go over 4 storeys compared with ~18% in france and germany. The problem with people per km squared is it doesn't consider the quality of the land. Economically, delopulation is disastrous for countries, look at japan and russia. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.. No you love uncontrolled mass immigration so you just want to concrete over it all and build more houses for them. " I love uncontrolled immigration because i find the average immigrant to be considerably more attractive than the native population. "Oh you're from Britian, the land of beautiful women. Most men in our land dream of landing a British wife" - said no foreigner ever. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.." Yes, lets hope they dont sell off the forests as we dont more housing in those area, by the way, how is the building industry now with brexit? Many eastern european are heading home and one manager of a building company was worried for the future. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.. No you love uncontrolled mass immigration so you just want to concrete over it all and build more houses for them. " Thats a poor argument even by your standards.Immigration leads to deforestation. Was that the reason Cameron wanted to sell our natural heritage to the highest bidder.. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder..Yes, lets hope they dont sell off the forests as we dont more housing in those area, by the way, how is the building industry now with brexit? Many eastern european are heading home and one manager of a building company was worried for the future." Ive worked with many skilled eastern Europeans.I havent noticed them leaving yet.The ones i know have settled here with kids at school.If the work dries up due to brexit i think many of the single guys will leave.Thats standard. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder..Yes, lets hope they dont sell off the forests as we dont more housing in those area, by the way, how is the building industry now with brexit? Many eastern european are heading home and one manager of a building company was worried for the future. Ive worked with many skilled eastern Europeans.I havent noticed them leaving yet.The ones i know have settled here with kids at school.If the work dries up due to brexit i think many of the single guys will leave.Thats standard." That is good and yeah I reckon they will wait and see what will happen, that news was from london, but yes, they sure are good builder. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.. No you love uncontrolled mass immigration so you just want to concrete over it all and build more houses for them. I love uncontrolled immigration because i find the average immigrant to be considerably more attractive than the native population. "Oh you're from Britian, the land of beautiful women. Most men in our land dream of landing a British wife" - said no foreigner ever. " British women statistically have the largest breasts in Europe. No joke there was a real study done on this. Maybe that's why so many immigrants want to come here. | |||
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"Nuttal probably isn't the sharpest tool in the box. At the same time, I don't think a population of 80 million in the UK is a good thing. That applies whether they are native British, from the EU, Asia or anywhere. What concerns you about 80m population? It is too high a population density. I don't want the country to be more and more built up. It would make Englands population density 495 people / km sq. France has population density of 100 and Germany 230 / km sq. The world will be overpopulated in 50 years tho by over 9 billion. Maybe, but in the meantime I don't want this country 4x as crammed as our neighbours.That is right too, lets enjoy the free space that is left while it lasts. Hopefully the tories wont try and sell off all of our forests again to the highest bidder.. No you love uncontrolled mass immigration so you just want to concrete over it all and build more houses for them. I love uncontrolled immigration because i find the average immigrant to be considerably more attractive than the native population. "Oh you're from Britian, the land of beautiful women. Most men in our land dream of landing a British wife" - said no foreigner ever. British women statistically have the largest breasts in Europe. No joke there was a real study done on this. Maybe that's why so many immigrants want to come here. " Breast get bigger when women get fatter... | |||
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"Not only is he thick, he looks like a bollock being squeezed through a very tight shirt collar. What I can't understand is there is clearly appetite for a centre ground party, so why are the liberals failing so spectacularly?" They've been tainted with the "they'll drag us back into the eu" brush. Despite the fact that they are actually offering further democracy by offering the people the final say on whether comes from the brexit negotiations. I mean come on, the british people by 2019 are likely to just vote "yeah whatever, we'll go with it. Im fed up of the ballot box now." So even if it was a ploy to get us back in it'd probs backfire :P | |||
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