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"22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th. havent been following it, henious crimes some sick fuckers in this world " yes but I can't understand the lack of outrage on this one ? Surly it's as bad if not worse than some of the others ? | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water.. and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc.. | |||
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"22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th. havent been following it, henious crimes some sick fuckers in this world yes but I can't understand the lack of outrage on this one ? Surly it's as bad if not worse than some of the others ? " I think the outrage comes from it being close to home. Much in the same way you'd feel more threatened if your neighbour got burgled rather than hearing about someone at the other side of the country being burgled. I know.....not a great example for comparing the two things but I think it highlights the mentality of things It's very sad that this is happening again and again, nowhere seems to be safe from an attack | |||
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"22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th. havent been following it, henious crimes some sick fuckers in this world yes but I can't understand the lack of outrage on this one ? Surly it's as bad if not worse than some of the others ? I think the outrage comes from it being close to home. Much in the same way you'd feel more threatened if your neighbour got burgled rather than hearing about someone at the other side of the country being burgled. I know.....not a great example for comparing the two things but I think it highlights the mentality of things It's very sad that this is happening again and again, nowhere seems to be safe from an attack " yes I think your probbally correct , but it's still lived lost for no good reason ![]() | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then ![]() | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() 'face palm emoji needed'.. no its not ok.. it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here.. rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things.. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() that's Bollocks !!! I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!! | |||
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"Why has thier been no reaction to this ? 26 people including kids massacred on a bus ! " You do realise that shit like this has been going on for tens, nay hundreds, maybe even thousands of years. Poor education, poverty and radicalisation are powerful motivators for people to do some pretty hideous shit. Remember too that people do genuinely fear people who are "not like them." Add in a sense of superiority and you get perfect justification to give them a live or die ultimatum. There was/is outrage amongst the families locally but as is the way these days - it happened s long way away and do hardly feels real. | |||
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"Unfortunately humanity is desensitized from these barbarous acts.We've normalized these events in the middle east and north africa." sadly you are right ! I know we are opposites politically , but I think we both genuinely want peace not death ! Yet I'm been hammered for bringing this one up ! I don't get it ? | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..? what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above.. is it because they are Christian? Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..? | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why has thier been no reaction to this ? 26 people including kids massacred on a bus ! You do realise that shit like this has been going on for tens, nay hundreds, maybe even thousands of years. Poor education, poverty and radicalisation are powerful motivators for people to do some pretty hideous shit. Remember too that people do genuinely fear people who are "not like them." Add in a sense of superiority and you get perfect justification to give them a live or die ultimatum. There was/is outrage amongst the families locally but as is the way these days - it happened s long way away and do hardly feels real." again we often disagree but you do offer genuine opinions , and I think you have a point ! | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() ![]() But you don't.. the examples i gave above were not meant to be crass but they are the reality, they are not carried out by terrorists though.. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() ![]() of course that's all wrong it's obvious !!! But I could say to you why haven't you condemned this Masacre first ! Was it because they were Christian ? And not from this country ? All killing is wrong !!! | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() ![]() well if it was obvious to you why did you not start a thread about it? | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes. That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year. Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated. This one looks like a general attack on Christianity " Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football.. | |||
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"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes. That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year. Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated. This one looks like a general attack on Christianity Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football.. " if you mean me ? And I say if ? I don't think I do ![]() | |||
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"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes. That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year. Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated. This one looks like a general attack on Christianity Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football.. if you mean me ? And I say if ? I don't think I do ![]() Certainly don't mean you in relation to hate and division no, but there are some on here.. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() ![]() . How noble let's start a party we'll call it the I'm against killing party (no Tories allowed). No seriously I'm being serious now, how does being outraged help? | |||
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"the killing party title would have to go to the labour party headed by blair funded by brown sent in by hoone. the millionaire's club have made a few bob out of it i feel " . Yeah like Tory's never voted for it either, oh wait yes they voted for it as well, look up the rebels who didn't vote for it, I'll bet they were about evenly split. However Corbyn definitely didn't vote for it ![]() | |||
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"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes. That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year. Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated. This one looks like a general attack on Christianity Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football.. if you mean me ? And I say if ? I don't think I do ![]() Fair enough ![]() | |||
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"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right " . No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!. The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history | |||
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"the BBc don't cover such things as they have their own agenda. Which appears to be anti christian and anti british values. just look at the money they have paid the quilliam foundation which appears to be the public face of militant islam. (not a christian) ![]() To be fair I'm pretty sure the quiliam Foundation is against Radicalism , I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure they are the good guys ![]() | |||
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"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right . No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!. The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history" i wouldn't disagree with any of that ! Don't get your cyiscsm of my staring this topic ? We have caused a lot of the trouble , two wrongs don't make a right ! Ps I would pay more tax for the right reasons ! Also we will never get a represtitave government until we have P R ! If you have me as a Right Wing Fascist , you are mistaken !!! | |||
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"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right . No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!. The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history" This.. The hypocritical drivel and outrage from the right over Blair and Iraq war somewhat silent when thatcher was holding hands with pinochet .. And Libya, well you know we had to go in cos it was the Arab spring.. | |||
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"If u go back far enuff in history u can make any point u want tho can't u it's only now that matters " The issues now are directly to do with what happened in 03 and the war in Iraq.. | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!." But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us." You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts? | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?" No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance. | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance." Like, they are still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye. | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance." So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection? I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith. You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance. So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection? I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith. You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. " As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye. | |||
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"We should have had nowt to do with Pinochet ! We also shouldn't have gone into Libya , and we shouldn't be sucking up to Israel or the Saudis or the Yanks for that matter ! And we also should have nowt to do with the Chinese ! I'm serious !!! " If you vote for independence Be independent and mind your own business in the world Look at switzerland | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance. So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection? I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith. You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye." . You also missed out the fact that we didn't do it over night, it took dozens of generations and several civil wars to eventually put democracy and science above theocracy and belief.. And even then Europe still has massive religious populations and countries, it was only a few years ago the Vatican and the Pope was still telling people that condoms are a sin! Much better to die a young honourable aids death than an old aids free sinful one?. One thing Islam has learnt from Christianity is that if you want to keep your dominance you gotta keep on top of your flock. Eventually Islam will go the same way as Christianity it will just take them awhile longer to get there | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance. So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection? I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith. You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye.. You also missed out the fact that we didn't do it over night, it took dozens of generations and several civil wars to eventually put democracy and science above theocracy and belief.. And even then Europe still has massive religious populations and countries, it was only a few years ago the Vatican and the Pope was still telling people that condoms are a sin! Much better to die a young honourable aids death than an old aids free sinful one?. One thing Islam has learnt from Christianity is that if you want to keep your dominance you gotta keep on top of your flock. Eventually Islam will go the same way as Christianity it will just take them awhile longer to get there" I agree with a lot of this , but why isn't thier a similar problem with Hindus and Sikhs ? | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() Total non sequitur and glib obfuscation.. Why are you trying to minimise and trivialise a calculated murder spree of peaceful Coptic well wishers? There seems to be an attempt by some to trivualie and almost excuse the horrific actions of a certain group beneath a subterfuge of non-sequiturs add false equivalences. Glib and vile beyond belief. | |||
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"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us. You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance. So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection? I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith. You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye.. You also missed out the fact that we didn't do it over night, it took dozens of generations and several civil wars to eventually put democracy and science above theocracy and belief.. And even then Europe still has massive religious populations and countries, it was only a few years ago the Vatican and the Pope was still telling people that condoms are a sin! Much better to die a young honourable aids death than an old aids free sinful one?. One thing Islam has learnt from Christianity is that if you want to keep your dominance you gotta keep on top of your flock. Eventually Islam will go the same way as Christianity it will just take them awhile longer to get there I agree with a lot of this , but why isn't thier a similar problem with Hindus and Sikhs ? " . There's hardly any Sikhs and Hindus have done atrocious acts in the name of Hinduism. Just read history. All the main religions are barbaric by nature as they were wrote 1000s of years ago by barbarous people(the world back then was pretty mean everywhere not just in the middle East). Of course there's exception like jains and the Amish but again even there it's a numbers game, there's hardly any of them so far less chance of getting a whack job one. | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation." I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation. | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() I see what you mean but il agree to disagree on this one ![]() | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() Your clearly easily offende or talking out of your arse.. It's not about trivialising a barbaric act which you probably know.. It's about the op once again being outraged only when there's a group to blame.. Bit like yourself.. Take it your totally fine with child mortality rates in other less developed countries given you've not actually contributed to that issue.. Feel free to come back with more angst driven bigotry based rhetoric.. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() I didn't blame a group ! I didn't even say it was an Islamic attack ! I simply said how awful it was and I couldn't understand why it had gone under the radar ! I don't care who comitsthese vile Acts ! | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() shit happens What do you want a blue Peter badge for giving a shit?. | |||
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"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right . No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!. The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history" But you seem to happy enough to alter history. ISIS was formed in 1999. Al Qaeda was formed in 1988. Both have as their main aim the destruction of the West, not because of our foreign policies, nor because of any bombing. They want to destroy the west because of our liberal, democratic and tolerant values. With regard to the death of the Coptic Christians in Egypt:- Of course it's upsetting when it's brought to my attention and is just as evil as 20 innocents killed anywhere. However I don't feel it the same way because I don't see myself in those people. I have been to Manchester, I have been to concerts, I have waited in lobbies to pick my kids up. It could have been me or my kids there. I have also been to Paris, sat and d*unk coffee in street side cafes, that to could have been me. On the other hand I have never been to Egypt and I never been, and am extremely unlikely to ever be, on a coach to an ancient monastery. That could never be me. Right or wrong, I feel it more when I identity more with those being attacked and I suspect all do. | |||
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"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right . No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!. The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history But you seem to happy enough to alter history. ISIS was formed in 1999. Al Qaeda was formed in 1988. Both have as their main aim the destruction of the West, not because of our foreign policies, nor because of any bombing. They want to destroy the west because of our liberal, democratic and tolerant values. With regard to the death of the Coptic Christians in Egypt:- Of course it's upsetting when it's brought to my attention and is just as evil as 20 innocents killed anywhere. However I don't feel it the same way because I don't see myself in those people. I have been to Manchester, I have been to concerts, I have waited in lobbies to pick my kids up. It could have been me or my kids there. I have also been to Paris, sat and d*unk coffee in street side cafes, that to could have been me. On the other hand I have never been to Egypt and I never been, and am extremely unlikely to ever be, on a coach to an ancient monastery. That could never be me. Right or wrong, I feel it more when I identity more with those being attacked and I suspect all do." get odf that britain first page | |||
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"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right . No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!. The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history But you seem to happy enough to alter history. ISIS was formed in 1999. Al Qaeda was formed in 1988. Both have as their main aim the destruction of the West, not because of our foreign policies, nor because of any bombing. They want to destroy the west because of our liberal, democratic and tolerant values. With regard to the death of the Coptic Christians in Egypt:- Of course it's upsetting when it's brought to my attention and is just as evil as 20 innocents killed anywhere. However I don't feel it the same way because I don't see myself in those people. I have been to Manchester, I have been to concerts, I have waited in lobbies to pick my kids up. It could have been me or my kids there. I have also been to Paris, sat and d*unk coffee in street side cafes, that to could have been me. On the other hand I have never been to Egypt and I never been, and am extremely unlikely to ever be, on a coach to an ancient monastery. That could never be me. Right or wrong, I feel it more when I identity more with those being attacked and I suspect all do." . No I think your confused on what I wrote maybe?. Who formed, trained and equipped al Qaeda in 1988? Who broke them up into pieces in Afghanistan allowing the various offshoots to appear?. Who needless invaded Iraq killing a million civilians and then allowed the money and the man power to reform into an army?. Who turns a blind eye to Saudi Arabian money radicalising the week minded and vulnerable? Who sells the Saudis top notch weapons for them to use wiping out they're neighbours?. Who then after making all the fucking errors makes the exact same mistakes in Libya and Egypt and then thinks, hey you know what we need, more of the same in Syria!. I don't think I'm confused about where the problem is for the creation of these problems. I don't think I'm confused on where the ideology comes from for these maniacs! I think maybe your in denial about your responsibility by your continued voting process of more more more please providing I pay less tax | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() In which case I assume you've spent the week in Manchester and similarly told them to stop whingeing and whining over a few body parts. | |||
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"Why has thier been no reaction to this ? 26 people including kids massacred on a bus ! You do realise that shit like this has been going on for tens, nay hundreds, maybe even thousands of years. Poor education, poverty and radicalisation are powerful motivators for people to do some pretty hideous shit..." More laughable excuses. Our very latest home-grown islamo-Nazi had a home in Fallowfield, a rented flat in Manchester city centre, made numerous flights abroad and had parents who include a nuclear scientist!? Must have been sheer, grinding poverty. No mention of course of the current, unique, frequent and well-established muslim predisposition to this religio-racist kind of savagery throughout Europe, and specifically aimed at the Copts in Egypt. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() welcome back after your little break.. still not able to actually read properly without making shit up to suit your own hate filled life then.. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() Yes, must have been a difficult week for you...trying to pick your favourite koran-inspired massacre. | |||
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"Not heard about it to be honest That's my point ! 28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt ! All lives should be equal ! Why has it gone under the radar ? I genuinely don't get it ? ![]() The cancer of your soul is probably down to the hate you have inside, poisoning your thought processes and distorting your logic.. Not keen on terrorists tbh, having dealt with their aftermath in Ireland and been on duty on 7-7 I've seen and smelt what they do.. Your hate is the same as those who carry out such vile acts..they're just a bit further down that path.. | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? " Do you have a date in mind when the anglo saxon apocalypse occurs..? | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? Do you have a date in mind when the anglo saxon apocalypse occurs..?" It's not up to us is it. You'd have to ask Brussels, they probably have the timeframe for capitulation. I see the great Manchester run was described as "defiant", surely that's inflammatory. I'm sure soon there'll be great Manchester run described as "apologetic". | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? " Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice. I know Catholic countries where men are superior to women. Don't confuse religion with the state. | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice. I know Catholic countries where men are superior to women. Don't confuse religion with the state." I don't see Catholics operating a jihad at the moment? I don't see Catholics blowing themselves up trying to kill young girls. I don't see Catholics encouraged to attack the infidel in their homes during lent. I don't see Catholics rounding up homosexuals and throwing them from tall buildings or interning them. Catholics or any other religion. Well, apart from one. I'm not saying Catholics have no blood on their hands. But they have no network of terrorists operating inside Tehran either. In the vatican....... that's not a comparison. They wouldn't be allowed to go to Mecca at all! | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice. I know Catholic countries where men are superior to women. Don't confuse religion with the state. I don't see Catholics operating a jihad at the moment? I don't see Catholics blowing themselves up trying to kill young girls. I don't see Catholics encouraged to attack the infidel in their homes during lent. I don't see Catholics rounding up homosexuals and throwing them from tall buildings or interning them. Catholics or any other religion. Well, apart from one. I'm not saying Catholics have no blood on their hands. But they have no network of terrorists operating inside Tehran either. In the vatican....... that's not a comparison. They wouldn't be allowed to go to Mecca at all! " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice..." Wearing a veil is only optional if you're an infidel. Any Saudi woman who doesn't wear one is arrested by the religious police. And do tell us some more about the Vatican...if a woman doesn't wear a veil is she arrested and imprisoned by the Swiss Guard? | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice... Wearing a veil is only optional if you're an infidel. Any Saudi woman who doesn't wear one is arrested by the religious police. And do tell us some more about the Vatican...if a woman doesn't wear a veil is she arrested and imprisoned by the Swiss Guard? " Must admit I was thinking that as well. When I went to the Vatican, including St Peters, Vatican Museum, and Sistine Chapel, the lady I was with certainly didn't wear a veil. Although I may have missed one, I don't remember anyone else wearing one either. Fake news methinks. | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name.. ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gee Bob ! Are you serious ? Its Americas fault !.... as usual ! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters. ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You ought to know better ! Comparing cold war antics with present tense ! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA. ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol... I have a brain of my own , and a decent command of current and historic events ! Dont need to listen to anybody! Lol... dare I ask who you listen to ? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I read.I am not a good listener ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You read.... mmmm.... extreme stuff apparently... I had noticed you are not a good listener! ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We have much in common.. ![]() | |||
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"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() lol.... I would say ... a bit ! ![]() ![]() | |||
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