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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Why has thier been no reaction to this ?

26 people including kids massacred on a bus !

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Not heard about it to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest"

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows

22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th.

havent been following it, henious crimes

some sick fuckers in this world

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th.

havent been following it, henious crimes

some sick fuckers in this world

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yes but I can't understand the lack of outrage on this one ?

Surly it's as bad if not worse than some of the others ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ? "

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th.

havent been following it, henious crimes

some sick fuckers in this world

yes but I can't understand the lack of outrage on this one ?

Surly it's as bad if not worse than some of the others ? "

I think the outrage comes from it being close to home. Much in the same way you'd feel more threatened if your neighbour got burgled rather than hearing about someone at the other side of the country being burgled. I know.....not a great example for comparing the two things but I think it highlights the mentality of things

It's very sad that this is happening again and again, nowhere seems to be safe from an attack

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hows it worse, any loss of innocent life is surely a tragedy? Its really only worse when it goes from a few dosen to a few hundred.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"22 on 22nd and 26 on 26th.

havent been following it, henious crimes

some sick fuckers in this world

yes but I can't understand the lack of outrage on this one ?

Surly it's as bad if not worse than some of the others ?

I think the outrage comes from it being close to home. Much in the same way you'd feel more threatened if your neighbour got burgled rather than hearing about someone at the other side of the country being burgled. I know.....not a great example for comparing the two things but I think it highlights the mentality of things

It's very sad that this is happening again and again, nowhere seems to be safe from an attack "

yes I think your probbally correct , but it's still lived lost for no good reason

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

"

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surprised no one has said it was down to Tory spending cuts and UK foreign policy

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then "

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

150 children, under 5, die each day in Burma. Where is the outrage about this?

In fact the only discussion that we ever have on this subject is about how foreign aid should be cut to countries like Burma. How the country with an an infant mortality rate of 2 per 1000 births cant afford to help a country with 55 per 1000

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately humanity is desensitized from these barbarous acts.We've normalized these events in the middle east and north africa.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

"

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"Why has thier been no reaction to this ?

26 people including kids massacred on a bus ! "

You do realise that shit like this has been going on for tens, nay hundreds, maybe even thousands of years.

Poor education, poverty and radicalisation are powerful motivators for people to do some pretty hideous shit.

Remember too that people do genuinely fear people who are "not like them." Add in a sense of superiority and you get perfect justification to give them a live or die ultimatum.

There was/is outrage amongst the families locally but as is the way these days - it happened s long way away and do hardly feels real.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Unfortunately humanity is desensitized from these barbarous acts.We've normalized these events in the middle east and north africa."
sadly you are right !

I know we are opposites politically , but I think we both genuinely want peace not death !

Yet I'm been hammered for bringing this one up !

I don't get it ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!"

i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..?

what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above..

is it because they are Christian?

Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!

i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..?

what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above..

is it because they are Christian?

Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..?

"

no it's because theirs been a Masacre !!! An no one is fussed !!!!!

I'd have said the same if they had been Muslim , Jew , Buddhist , Hindu or whatever !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why has thier been no reaction to this ?

26 people including kids massacred on a bus !

You do realise that shit like this has been going on for tens, nay hundreds, maybe even thousands of years.

Poor education, poverty and radicalisation are powerful motivators for people to do some pretty hideous shit.

Remember too that people do genuinely fear people who are "not like them." Add in a sense of superiority and you get perfect justification to give them a live or die ultimatum.

There was/is outrage amongst the families locally but as is the way these days - it happened s long way away and do hardly feels real."

again we often disagree but you do offer genuine opinions , and I think you have a point !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!

i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..?

what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above..

is it because they are Christian?

Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..?

no it's because theirs been a Masacre !!! An no one is fussed !!!!!

I'd have said the same if they had been Muslim , Jew , Buddhist , Hindu or whatever !!! "

But you don't..

the examples i gave above were not meant to be crass but they are the reality, they are not carried out by terrorists though..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!

i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..?

what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above..

is it because they are Christian?

Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..?

no it's because theirs been a Masacre !!! An no one is fussed !!!!!

I'd have said the same if they had been Muslim , Jew , Buddhist , Hindu or whatever !!!

But you don't..

the examples i gave above were not meant to be crass but they are the reality, they are not carried out by terrorists though..

"

of course that's all wrong it's obvious !!!

But I could say to you why haven't you condemned this Masacre first !

Was it because they were Christian ? And not from this country ?

All killing is wrong !!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!

i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..?

what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above..

is it because they are Christian?

Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..?

no it's because theirs been a Masacre !!! An no one is fussed !!!!!

I'd have said the same if they had been Muslim , Jew , Buddhist , Hindu or whatever !!!

But you don't..

the examples i gave above were not meant to be crass but they are the reality, they are not carried out by terrorists though..

of course that's all wrong it's obvious !!!

But I could say to you why haven't you condemned this Masacre first !

Was it because they were Christian ? And not from this country ?

All killing is wrong !!! "

well if it was obvious to you why did you not start a thread about it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then because they are on going natural disasters !

Why didn't you start a thread about this ?

I'd like to see All Sensless Killing Stop !!!

End of !!!!!!!

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!

i have not said anything about whether you like or hate killing..?

what i am saying is what i have clearly stated above..

is it because they are Christian?

Is it because an IS affiliated group supposedly based in Libya carried out the attack..?

no it's because theirs been a Masacre !!! An no one is fussed !!!!!

I'd have said the same if they had been Muslim , Jew , Buddhist , Hindu or whatever !!!

But you don't..

the examples i gave above were not meant to be crass but they are the reality, they are not carried out by terrorists though..

of course that's all wrong it's obvious !!!

But I could say to you why haven't you condemned this Masacre first !

Was it because they were Christian ? And not from this country ?

All killing is wrong !!!

well if it was obvious to you why did you not start a thread about it?

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More die every year from overeating than from terrorism... A uniquely modern problem.

All lives being equal why isn't that an obsession for our leaders?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People have just grown blasé, it's another predominantly Muslim country predictably picking on a peaceful minority / soft target.

The Coptics are native to Egypt..

Egypt was a peaceful , prosperous and advanced homogeneous coptic society.. then the Arabs turned up, now it's another corrupt sewer strewn with broken bodies sluicing through the streets.

Same story in Pakistan,.. anywhere really were Muslims form a majority they murder each other for not being "muslim" enough and of course minorities as a warning to those considering defecation.

Truely horrific that such gentle and peaceful cultured people can be treated so poorly and barely anything is said.

The west wants to appease malevolence, it doesn't seem to want to quell and humble it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes.

That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year.

Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated.

This one looks like a general attack on Christianity

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes.

That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year.

Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated.

This one looks like a general attack on Christianity

"

Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If IS did actually get control the death rates from preventable causes would be in the millions.

They would destroy any and all pharmaceutical companies labs ect and desease would run rithe with nothing to fight it.

You can forget all of you're phones iPads tellys video games, children playing in the streets haveing fun

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes.

That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year.

Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated.

This one looks like a general attack on Christianity

Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football..

"

if you mean me ? And I say if ? I don't think I do I'm open with my views , but condemn all atrocities !

I've been just as vehement on US air strikes !!!

Ask some of the others on here !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes.

That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year.

Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated.

This one looks like a general attack on Christianity

Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football..

if you mean me ? And I say if ? I don't think I do I'm open with my views , but condemn all atrocities !

I've been just as vehement on US air strikes !!!

Ask some of the others on here ! "

Certainly don't mean you in relation to hate and division no, but there are some on here..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the BBc don't cover such things as they have their own agenda.

Which appears to be anti christian and anti british values.

just look at the money they have paid the quilliam foundation which appears to be the public face of militant islam.

(not a christian)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

wtf !!!! Oh so it's ok then

'face palm emoji needed'..

no its not ok..

it just is how shit is for those people but you only seem to pick up and do your faux outrage threads (this time its the coptic's, was it the yazidi's last?) whenever there is an attack over here..

rest of the time you are strangely quiet about such things..

that's Bollocks !!!

I'm right wing I admit it , but I hate All killing !!!"

.

How noble let's start a party we'll call it the I'm against killing party (no Tories allowed).

No seriously I'm being serious now, how does being outraged help?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the killing party title would have to go to the labour party headed by blair funded by brown sent in by hoone.

the millionaire's club have made a few bob out of it i feel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the killing party title would have to go to the labour party headed by blair funded by brown sent in by hoone.

the millionaire's club have made a few bob out of it i feel "

.

Yeah like Tory's never voted for it either, oh wait yes they voted for it as well, look up the rebels who didn't vote for it, I'll bet they were about evenly split.

However Corbyn definitely didn't vote for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just did it.

149 voted against. It went something like

84 labour

45 liberal

5 SNP

4 plaid

2 Tories!!

1 green

Now right wingers, don't tell me you don't like a good war

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't get why some want to turn this into a left v right issue and point score. It is an attack on freedom of choice and innocent people that needs to be condemned. There is less outrage because we are more distanced from it but that makes it no less vile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your right its not a left v right issue, its the last 40 years of foreign policy by politicans that have caused this!.

The UN estimates that 1 million civilians died in the Iraq conflict and the subsequent years following, 1 fucking million, then there's the massive spike in genetic abnormalities in births since thanks to the utter pollution of its land from the conflict, still that freedom hey, prise worth paying at any cost apparently.

And that's where OUR responsibility comes in, WE voted these fuckwits in that caused this mess, and were still voting them in because... Oh but the alternative is higher taxs for me, boo hoo and a less serve brexit, see I really really hate killing but I'm just against high taxs and less severe brexits more coz that's higher on my agenda than 1 million people bring cut down with explosives and 50mm cannons..

Still I feel I should start a thread saying how outraged I am from some deaths in Egypt, I mean what a disaster

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The unfortunate reality is around 29000 children under 5 die each and every day from mostly preventable causes.

That's around 21 under 5 years child deaths each and every minute of the day, every day, every week, every year.

Scum like ISIS / ISIL don't have any lack of reasons for butchering different sections of society, they just use a different reason depending where the atrocity is perpetrated.

This one looks like a general attack on Christianity

Totally in agreement and avoidable child mortality doesn't allow some who thrive on hate and division to use such deaths as their political football..

if you mean me ? And I say if ? I don't think I do I'm open with my views , but condemn all atrocities !

I've been just as vehement on US air strikes !!!

Ask some of the others on here !

Certainly don't mean you in relation to hate and division no, but there are some on here.."

Fair enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right "
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No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.

The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"the BBc don't cover such things as they have their own agenda.

Which appears to be anti christian and anti british values.

just look at the money they have paid the quilliam foundation which appears to be the public face of militant islam.

(not a christian) "

To be fair I'm pretty sure the quiliam Foundation is against Radicalism , I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure they are the good guys

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right .

No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.

The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history"

i wouldn't disagree with any of that !

Don't get your cyiscsm of my staring this topic ?

We have caused a lot of the trouble , two wrongs don't make a right !

Ps I would pay more tax for the right reasons !

Also we will never get a represtitave government until we have P R !

If you have me as a Right Wing Fascist , you are mistaken !!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right .

No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.

The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history"

This..

The hypocritical drivel and outrage from the right over Blair and Iraq war somewhat silent when thatcher was holding hands with pinochet ..

And Libya, well you know we had to go in cos it was the Arab spring..

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over a year ago

We should have had nowt to do with Pinochet !

We also shouldn't have gone into Libya , and we shouldn't be sucking up to Israel or the Saudis or the Yanks for that matter !

And we also should have nowt to do with the Chinese !

I'm serious !!!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If u go back far enuff in history u can make any point u want tho can't u it's only now that matters

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"If u go back far enuff in history u can make any point u want tho can't u it's only now that matters "

The issues now are directly to do with what happened in 03 and the war in Iraq..

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!."
But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us."

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?"

No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance."

Like, they are still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye.

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance."

So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection?

I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith.

You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'.

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance.

So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection?

I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith.

You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. "

As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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over a year ago


"We should have had nowt to do with Pinochet !

We also shouldn't have gone into Libya , and we shouldn't be sucking up to Israel or the Saudis or the Yanks for that matter !

And we also should have nowt to do with the Chinese !

I'm serious !!! "

If you vote for independence

Be independent and mind your own business in the world

Look at switzerland

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over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance.

So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection?

I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith.

You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye."

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You also missed out the fact that we didn't do it over night, it took dozens of generations and several civil wars to eventually put democracy and science above theocracy and belief.. And even then Europe still has massive religious populations and countries, it was only a few years ago the Vatican and the Pope was still telling people that condoms are a sin! Much better to die a young honourable aids death than an old aids free sinful one?.

One thing Islam has learnt from Christianity is that if you want to keep your dominance you gotta keep on top of your flock.

Eventually Islam will go the same way as Christianity it will just take them awhile longer to get there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance.

So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection?

I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith.

You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye..

You also missed out the fact that we didn't do it over night, it took dozens of generations and several civil wars to eventually put democracy and science above theocracy and belief.. And even then Europe still has massive religious populations and countries, it was only a few years ago the Vatican and the Pope was still telling people that condoms are a sin! Much better to die a young honourable aids death than an old aids free sinful one?.

One thing Islam has learnt from Christianity is that if you want to keep your dominance you gotta keep on top of your flock.

Eventually Islam will go the same way as Christianity it will just take them awhile longer to get there"

I agree with a lot of this , but why isn't thier a similar problem with Hindus and Sikhs ?

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over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

"

Total non sequitur and glib obfuscation..

Why are you trying to minimise and trivialise a calculated murder spree of peaceful Coptic well wishers?

There seems to be an attempt by some to trivualie and almost excuse the horrific actions of a certain group beneath a subterfuge of non-sequiturs add false equivalences.

Glib and vile beyond belief.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.But our civilization advanced in europe and we are not stuck in the stone age like them, they will always be behind us.

You're presumably talking about the stone age people that managed to invent astronomy, develop medical science, writing, build huge monuments etc, etc while we were still living in mud huts?No. I was comparing it to religion that they will never advance.

So you're saying that Islam is stuck in the stone ages whereas Christianity in Western society has advanced to the point where tens of thousands still believe in divine creation and the resurrection?

I think our civilisation has advanced because of a lack of faith.

You can't say Islam is stuck in the stone age but Christianity has advanced to the point that Christians are somehow more 'civilised'. As I said in my reply you missed, that islam is still barbaric, whilst we moved away from eye for an eye..

You also missed out the fact that we didn't do it over night, it took dozens of generations and several civil wars to eventually put democracy and science above theocracy and belief.. And even then Europe still has massive religious populations and countries, it was only a few years ago the Vatican and the Pope was still telling people that condoms are a sin! Much better to die a young honourable aids death than an old aids free sinful one?.

One thing Islam has learnt from Christianity is that if you want to keep your dominance you gotta keep on top of your flock.

Eventually Islam will go the same way as Christianity it will just take them awhile longer to get there I agree with a lot of this , but why isn't thier a similar problem with Hindus and Sikhs ? "

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There's hardly any Sikhs and Hindus have done atrocious acts in the name of Hinduism.

Just read history.

All the main religions are barbaric by nature as they were wrote 1000s of years ago by barbarous people(the world back then was pretty mean everywhere not just in the middle East).

Of course there's exception like jains and the Amish but again even there it's a numbers game, there's hardly any of them so far less chance of getting a whack job one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation."
I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob

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over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob "
Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation. "
I see what you mean but il agree to disagree on this one

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

Total non sequitur and glib obfuscation..

Why are you trying to minimise and trivialise a calculated murder spree of peaceful Coptic well wishers?

There seems to be an attempt by some to trivualie and almost excuse the horrific actions of a certain group beneath a subterfuge of non-sequiturs add false equivalences.

Glib and vile beyond belief."

Your clearly easily offende or talking out of your arse..

It's not about trivialising a barbaric act which you probably know..

It's about the op once again being outraged only when there's a group to blame..

Bit like yourself..

Take it your totally fine with child mortality rates in other less developed countries given you've not actually contributed to that issue..

Feel free to come back with more angst driven bigotry based rhetoric..

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over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

Total non sequitur and glib obfuscation..

Why are you trying to minimise and trivialise a calculated murder spree of peaceful Coptic well wishers?

There seems to be an attempt by some to trivualie and almost excuse the horrific actions of a certain group beneath a subterfuge of non-sequiturs add false equivalences.

Glib and vile beyond belief.

Your clearly easily offende or talking out of your arse..

It's not about trivialising a barbaric act which you probably know..

It's about the op once again being outraged only when there's a group to blame..

Bit like yourself..

Take it your totally fine with child mortality rates in other less developed countries given you've not actually contributed to that issue..

Feel free to come back with more angst driven bigotry based rhetoric..

"

I didn't blame a group !

I didn't even say it was an Islamic attack !

I simply said how awful it was and I couldn't understand why it had gone under the radar !

I don't care who comitsthese vile

Acts !

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over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

Total non sequitur and glib obfuscation..

Why are you trying to minimise and trivialise a calculated murder spree of peaceful Coptic well wishers?

There seems to be an attempt by some to trivualie and almost excuse the horrific actions of a certain group beneath a subterfuge of non-sequiturs add false equivalences.

Glib and vile beyond belief.

Your clearly easily offende or talking out of your arse..

It's not about trivialising a barbaric act which you probably know..

It's about the op once again being outraged only when there's a group to blame..

Bit like yourself..

Take it your totally fine with child mortality rates in other less developed countries given you've not actually contributed to that issue..

Feel free to come back with more angst driven bigotry based rhetoric..

I didn't blame a group !

I didn't even say it was an Islamic attack !

I simply said how awful it was and I couldn't understand why it had gone under the radar !

I don't care who comitsthese vile

Acts ! "

shit happens

What do you want a blue Peter badge for giving a shit?.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right .

No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.

The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history"

But you seem to happy enough to alter history. ISIS was formed in 1999. Al Qaeda was formed in 1988. Both have as their main aim the destruction of the West, not because of our foreign policies, nor because of any bombing. They want to destroy the west because of our liberal, democratic and tolerant values.

With regard to the death of the Coptic Christians in Egypt:- Of course it's upsetting when it's brought to my attention and is just as evil as 20 innocents killed anywhere. However I don't feel it the same way because I don't see myself in those people. I have been to Manchester, I have been to concerts, I have waited in lobbies to pick my kids up. It could have been me or my kids there. I have also been to Paris, sat and d*unk coffee in street side cafes, that to could have been me. On the other hand I have never been to Egypt and I never been, and am extremely unlikely to ever be, on a coach to an ancient monastery. That could never be me.

Right or wrong, I feel it more when I identity more with those being attacked and I suspect all do.

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right .

No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.

The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history

But you seem to happy enough to alter history. ISIS was formed in 1999. Al Qaeda was formed in 1988. Both have as their main aim the destruction of the West, not because of our foreign policies, nor because of any bombing. They want to destroy the west because of our liberal, democratic and tolerant values.

With regard to the death of the Coptic Christians in Egypt:- Of course it's upsetting when it's brought to my attention and is just as evil as 20 innocents killed anywhere. However I don't feel it the same way because I don't see myself in those people. I have been to Manchester, I have been to concerts, I have waited in lobbies to pick my kids up. It could have been me or my kids there. I have also been to Paris, sat and d*unk coffee in street side cafes, that to could have been me. On the other hand I have never been to Egypt and I never been, and am extremely unlikely to ever be, on a coach to an ancient monastery. That could never be me.

Right or wrong, I feel it more when I identity more with those being attacked and I suspect all do."

get odf that britain first page

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over a year ago


"Aw so ppl avent been killing eachother in the Middle East for thousands of yrs then over religion I supose the uk government is responsible for all them deaths aswell then gadafi Sadam they r the victims right .

No not to this extent, in fact if you want to go back a few hundreds years for religious persecution and deaths you don't even need to go to the middle East, Europe was full of it!.

The fact of the matter is that we opened Pandoras box and let it all out and we should bare responsibility for that, the million deaths in Iraq was our doing, you can play Pontius Pilate if you like but it doesn't alter history

But you seem to happy enough to alter history. ISIS was formed in 1999. Al Qaeda was formed in 1988. Both have as their main aim the destruction of the West, not because of our foreign policies, nor because of any bombing. They want to destroy the west because of our liberal, democratic and tolerant values.

With regard to the death of the Coptic Christians in Egypt:- Of course it's upsetting when it's brought to my attention and is just as evil as 20 innocents killed anywhere. However I don't feel it the same way because I don't see myself in those people. I have been to Manchester, I have been to concerts, I have waited in lobbies to pick my kids up. It could have been me or my kids there. I have also been to Paris, sat and d*unk coffee in street side cafes, that to could have been me. On the other hand I have never been to Egypt and I never been, and am extremely unlikely to ever be, on a coach to an ancient monastery. That could never be me.

Right or wrong, I feel it more when I identity more with those being attacked and I suspect all do."

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No I think your confused on what I wrote maybe?. Who formed, trained and equipped al Qaeda in 1988?

Who broke them up into pieces in Afghanistan allowing the various offshoots to appear?.

Who needless invaded Iraq killing a million civilians and then allowed the money and the man power to reform into an army?.

Who turns a blind eye to Saudi Arabian money radicalising the week minded and vulnerable?

Who sells the Saudis top notch weapons for them to use wiping out they're neighbours?.

Who then after making all the fucking errors makes the exact same mistakes in Libya and Egypt and then thinks, hey you know what we need, more of the same in Syria!.

I don't think I'm confused about where the problem is for the creation of these problems.

I don't think I'm confused on where the ideology comes from for these maniacs!

I think maybe your in denial about your responsibility by your continued voting process of more more more please providing I pay less tax

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban


" shit happens

What do you want a blue Peter badge for giving a shit?."

and yet when I said that i was vilified?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

"

In which case I assume you've spent the week in Manchester and similarly told them to stop whingeing and whining over a few body parts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why has thier been no reaction to this ?

26 people including kids massacred on a bus !

You do realise that shit like this has been going on for tens, nay hundreds, maybe even thousands of years.

Poor education, poverty and radicalisation are powerful motivators for people to do some pretty hideous shit..."

More laughable excuses.

Our very latest home-grown islamo-Nazi had a home in Fallowfield, a rented flat in Manchester city centre, made numerous flights abroad and had parents who include a nuclear scientist!? Must have been sheer, grinding poverty. No mention of course of the current, unique, frequent and well-established muslim predisposition to this religio-racist kind of savagery throughout Europe, and specifically aimed at the Copts in Egypt.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

In which case I assume you've spent the week in Manchester and similarly told them to stop whingeing and whining over a few body parts."

welcome back after your little break..

still not able to actually read properly without making shit up to suit your own hate filled life then..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

In which case I assume you've spent the week in Manchester and similarly told them to stop whingeing and whining over a few body parts.

welcome back after your little break..

still not able to actually read properly without making shit up to suit your own hate filled life then.. "

Yes, must have been a difficult week for you...trying to pick your favourite koran-inspired massacre.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not heard about it to be honest

That's my point !

28 people killed and over 50 hurt in Egypt !

All lives should be equal !

Why has it gone under the radar ?

I genuinely don't get it ?

whatever you do OP do not google how many children have died on this planet today from totally preventable diseases, malnutrition, malaria and that real basic thing we take for granted..clean drinking water..

and that's every day this year and last year and tomorrow etc..

In which case I assume you've spent the week in Manchester and similarly told them to stop whingeing and whining over a few body parts.

welcome back after your little break..

still not able to actually read properly without making shit up to suit your own hate filled life then..

Yes, must have been a difficult week for you...trying to pick your favourite koran-inspired massacre. "

The cancer of your soul is probably down to the hate you have inside, poisoning your thought processes and distorting your logic..

Not keen on terrorists tbh, having dealt with their aftermath in Ireland and been on duty on 7-7 I've seen and smelt what they do..

Your hate is the same as those who carry out such vile acts..they're just a bit further down that path..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

And Omaha..

Before you come back with your usual drivel about people being apologists or supporters of IS just because they don't buy your twisted logic that all Muslims are terrorists?

Then as before. Show one post where anyone on this site where someone has done so..

You won't be able to because as before when you've been challenged on this you can't..

It's simply lies you try and peddle..

May suit your fantasy land but it's not true..

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I know many will shout her down as some right wing is lam hater but her answer to the question cannot be denied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction?

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"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? "
Do you have a date in mind when the anglo saxon apocalypse occurs..?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? Do you have a date in mind when the anglo saxon apocalypse occurs..?"

It's not up to us is it. You'd have to ask Brussels, they probably have the timeframe for capitulation.

I see the great Manchester run was described as "defiant", surely that's inflammatory. I'm sure soon there'll be great Manchester run described as "apologetic".

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over a year ago


"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction? "

Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice. I know Catholic countries where men are superior to women.

Don't confuse religion with the state.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction?

Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice. I know Catholic countries where men are superior to women.

Don't confuse religion with the state."

I don't see Catholics operating a jihad at the moment? I don't see Catholics blowing themselves up trying to kill young girls. I don't see Catholics encouraged to attack the infidel in their homes during lent. I don't see Catholics rounding up homosexuals and throwing them from tall buildings or interning them. Catholics or any other religion. Well, apart from one. I'm not saying Catholics have no blood on their hands. But they have no network of terrorists operating inside Tehran either.

In the vatican....... that's not a comparison. They wouldn't be allowed to go to Mecca at all!

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction?

Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice. I know Catholic countries where men are superior to women.

Don't confuse religion with the state.

I don't see Catholics operating a jihad at the moment? I don't see Catholics blowing themselves up trying to kill young girls. I don't see Catholics encouraged to attack the infidel in their homes during lent. I don't see Catholics rounding up homosexuals and throwing them from tall buildings or interning them. Catholics or any other religion. Well, apart from one. I'm not saying Catholics have no blood on their hands. But they have no network of terrorists operating inside Tehran either.

In the vatican....... that's not a comparison. They wouldn't be allowed to go to Mecca at all! "

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation. "

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

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over a year ago


"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction?

Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice..."

Wearing a veil is only optional if you're an infidel. Any Saudi woman who doesn't wear one is arrested by the religious police.

And do tell us some more about the Vatican...if a woman doesn't wear a veil is she arrested and imprisoned by the Swiss Guard?

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over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

"

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Where will westernculturephobia end? Will the world of islam one day wake up to modern ideas like women are equal or you don't have to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim etc etc, will they kill us all or will they simply breed Europeans into extinction?

Separate religion with state or culture. Religion can be interpreted in many ways. Yes there is stoning in Muslim countries but not all. We used to behead in Christian countries. In Saudi Arabia you have little rights as women but wearing a veil is optional (May, Ivanka, Michelle) but in the Vatican women have no choice...

Wearing a veil is only optional if you're an infidel. Any Saudi woman who doesn't wear one is arrested by the religious police.

And do tell us some more about the Vatican...if a woman doesn't wear a veil is she arrested and imprisoned by the Swiss Guard?

"

Must admit I was thinking that as well.

When I went to the Vatican, including St Peters, Vatican Museum, and Sistine Chapel, the lady I was with certainly didn't wear a veil. Although I may have missed one, I don't remember anyone else wearing one either.

Fake news methinks.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram... "

Thats a lot of mosquitoes !

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over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! "

Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name.. "

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ? "

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. "

I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters. "

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

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over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

"

Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA. "

Lol... I have a brain of my own , and a decent command of current and historic events ! Dont need to listen to anybody!

Lol... dare I ask who you listen to ?

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over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA.

Lol... I have a brain of my own , and a decent command of current and historic events ! Dont need to listen to anybody!

Lol... dare I ask who you listen to ? "

I read.I am not a good listener

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA.

Lol... I have a brain of my own , and a decent command of current and historic events ! Dont need to listen to anybody!

Lol... dare I ask who you listen to ? I read.I am not a good listener "

You read.... mmmm.... extreme stuff apparently...

I had noticed you are not a good listener!

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over a year ago


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA.

Lol... I have a brain of my own , and a decent command of current and historic events ! Dont need to listen to anybody!

Lol... dare I ask who you listen to ? I read.I am not a good listener

You read.... mmmm.... extreme stuff apparently...

I had noticed you are not a good listener! "

We have much in common..

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"In the big scheme of things Islamic terrorism is an minor irritant on the onward march of our technological and pluralistic western civilsation. I usually understand your posts even if I don't agree , but uve stumped me a bit on this one Bob Isis is like a mosquito on the dinosaur of western civilisation.

And like a mosquito it only propagates disease and death !

When you squash a mosquito ,often it leaves a pot of blood from you or previous "hosts" !

But you have to agree Isis is a very big mosquito !

While I hope it will be squashed , I am afraid it will take a lot of blood and spread disease before its demise !

It's also like the hydra so even if it is destroyed it will just re-appear with a different name and with a never-ending supply of recruits...Al Queda, Al shabab, Boku Haram...

Thats a lot of mosquitoes ! Its the same mosquito.The CIA just changes its name..

Gee Bob ! Are you serious ?

Its Americas fault !.... as usual !

Do you ever take those blinders off ?

Its true, the cia invented Islam. Just to annoy the pope. I thought you would be aware of the cia funding of the mujahdeen in Afghanistan against the soviets.Bin laden was very grateful for the weapons and training of upto 35,000 fighters.

You ought to know better !

Comparing cold war antics with present tense !

"My enemy´s enemy is my friend" always has an expiry date !

Remember the allies´s friendship with Stalin ?

Even before the end of the conflict that alliance was dead ! It died with the race for Berlin .....and the rest is history!

So was the one with the mujahdeen as soon as the Russians left !

so Bob ... your defies reason ..and I don't think you are that daft !

Now having said that , one must not forget Obama´s disastrous foreign policy during the Arab spring that resulted in assisting Opposition "liberation" groups that turned and are now part of Al Quaida or Isis !

But that does not warrant a blanket statement like yours !

Stop listening to alex jones he also works for the CIA.

Lol... I have a brain of my own , and a decent command of current and historic events ! Dont need to listen to anybody!

Lol... dare I ask who you listen to ? I read.I am not a good listener

You read.... mmmm.... extreme stuff apparently...

I had noticed you are not a good listener! We have much in common.. "

lol.... I would say ... a bit !

But I am a good listener ..... but then i have to say my piece... Not one to hold back !

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