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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

There is a lot of chat about rich tories

and poor labour voters.

At what point are you rich ? and does it effect the way you vote if you become rich ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a lot of chat about rich tories

and poor labour voters.

At what point are you rich ? and does it effect the way you vote if you become rich ?

"

I think most people would say that if you are on an annual 6 figure salary you are definitely well off to rich. Obviously when we talk about millionaires and upwards most people would call them the super or mega rich.

Does been rich or poor effect the way you vote? yes and no.

Yes because there is a general societal divide, no because some poor people have have a different world view or philosophy.

Then you get into the question of what defines poor and rich, and sub-brackets within the classes.

eg, traditional working class, modern working class, affluent and emergent class (if anyone else uses those terms) middle class.

It's a really open ended question, and right now, nearly ten years on from the financial class traditional voting blocks are shattered. Lets face it, everyone is looking for something new or different..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a lot of chat about rich tories

and poor labour voters.

At what point are you rich ? and does it effect the way you vote if you become rich ?

"

If you are rich and running a business you're more likely to vote Tory. If you're just rich and feeling guilty you're more likely to vote Labour or sit on the Labour front bench. I think Harriet Harman is the richest MP. Though I'll probably be corrected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me is if you can afford cuts or extra costs you're well off. If not you'll feel the crunch.

Not rich or poor but more on the consequences of cuts or inflation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you have spent years building up a business to have a comfortable lifestyle later on you're more likely to vote Tory as labour is hell bent on taking most of it back off of you

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

It's all relative, surely?

For example, if you live in Derby, you can rent a reasonable 2 bed property for £500 per month.

One of our daughters lives in London. Earns about the same, maybe a thousand or so more, for the job she does compared to Derby.

She rents a single room, at £650 per month.

So, she is poorer down there than she would be up here.

But then again, it's her choice, as she prefers it down there.

So, she chooses to be 'poorer'.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

My ex-wife owns her own horse.

Does that mean she's rich?

Yet she lives in an ex-council house, is single, and has a job that pays just over minimum wage.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"There is a lot of chat about rich tories

and poor labour voters.

At what point are you rich ? and does it effect the way you vote if you become rich ?

I think most people would say that if you are on an annual 6 figure salary you are definitely well off to rich. Obviously when we talk about millionaires and upwards most people would call them the super or mega rich.

Does been rich or poor effect the way you vote? yes and no.

Yes because there is a general societal divide, no because some poor people have have a different world view or philosophy.

Then you get into the question of what defines poor and rich, and sub-brackets within the classes.

eg, traditional working class, modern working class, affluent and emergent class (if anyone else uses those terms) middle class.

It's a really open ended question, and right now, nearly ten years on from the financial class traditional voting blocks are shattered. Lets face it, everyone is looking for something new or different.."

so if you need a £100,000 plus to be rich and only the rich vote tory then there must be some serious vote rigging going on for them to win elections

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Such a difficult question to answer objectively...

So please forgive me if I address the question in a slightly unconventional way.

First we need to define what is wealth and poverty. I think we can all agree about what is absolute poverty. If a person can not afford food, shelter, heating and clothing they are in absolute poverty, if a person has to choose to forego any one or more of these essentials to provide for the others or requires charity to provide these essentials than they are in poverty.

After that things get harder to define...

I would suggest that many are poor who have surface wealth and income does not define wealth, but that the best definition would probably be one based on disposable income and savings after all essential living costs have been accounted for. However I would add a caveat to that of being continue to provide for ones self and family should ones income source fail.

Unfortunately most have a lot shallower view of the meaning of wealth and confuse having a few relativity volatile capital assets with being wealthy.

Of course many who fail to understand that being an owner occupier of a 3 bedroom Barrett box set on a 20th acre plot in the middle of an 80's/90's housing estate is not the same as being wealthy change overnight from being Labour supporters to being True Blue.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"My ex-wife owns her own horse.

Does that mean she's rich?

Yet she lives in an ex-council house, is single, and has a job that pays just over minimum wage."

No, since when has owning a horse made you rich?

When I lived in Swansea, you'd see horses tethered, grazing roundabouts.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"My ex-wife owns her own horse.

Does that mean she's rich?

Yet she lives in an ex-council house, is single, and has a job that pays just over minimum wage.

No, since when has owning a horse made you rich?

When I lived in Swansea, you'd see horses tethered, grazing roundabouts. "

She keeps the horse in livery, and competes with it.

Livery is not cheap.

Many people see horse ownership as being the domain of the rich.

But in my ex-wife's case, all it means is she chooses to spend her disposable income on a horse.

Though many people would say she must be well off to be able to do that.

Probably a lot of those think nothing of spending their disposable income on 20 cigs every day.

My point is that wealth is, in most circumstances, a matter of perception.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

cheers folks for your thoughts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a lot of chat about rich tories

and poor labour voters.

At what point are you rich ? and does it effect the way you vote if you become rich ?

"

I would say for me it's really about job security and being content with what you have. Some people get so stressed out trying to fit in with material wealth

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