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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

"

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are all to busy sailing up that river in egypt.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I saw some footage of Muslims in the Manchester Vigil yesterday, think one group was from the Manchester Muslim Association....they had a purple and gold banner and weren't hiding!

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Seen The Sun?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seen The Sun?"

No. Too many liverpoolean friends.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community. "

So far every terrorist has been known. Could be from those channels but as informants. So why is the government not sure about then yet?

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers."

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

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By *ayde BlanchardTV/TS
over a year ago

lancashire


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g"

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation. "

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

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By *ayde BlanchardTV/TS
over a year ago

lancashire


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began."

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation. "
...well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation. ...well said. "

True

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"All terrorists are Muslim"?

You really can't argue with that level of stupid.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

And, quite frankly, its insulting to the victims of all terrorist attacks, not least the pervious Manchester bombing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began."
spot on.He who controls the definition of words. Controls the agenda and the narrative . Standard.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community. "

I liked Charlotte Church's response to Piers Morgan when he said what you just copied from him:

"By your logic men should do more to root out rapists. Doesn't really work like that does it?"

then

"Most rapists are men-fact. Does that mean we blame all men for rapists and expect all men to root out rapists because most rapists are men?"

But I agree, something does have to be done to break this cycle. I would suggest not blanket labelling 23% of the worlds population as terrorists is a good start. Followed by stopping selling arms to those that fund their proxy wars in the middle east. Incarcerating Murdoch and Dacre for hate speech would also help.

-Matt

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin

Why arent Muslims condemning the attacks????

They are.

Well...thats not enough why arent they assisting with counter terrorism????

They are. There are more muslims working with French anti terror police than Al Qaeda have members.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6445582

Why arent they integrating with our society????

There are thousands of Muslims in the UK police and one of the key reasons the UKs National Muslim Police Association exists is to combat terrorism and integrate more of their community into efforts to make communities safer and combat terrorism from Muslim individuals.

Why are you calling me a bigot because I say Muslims are the problem when the overwhelming majority are condemning attacks and many times more are working to stop terrorism and risking their lives as counter intelligence and police of all religions do????

Because you're a bigot that ignores the facts to suit your agenda of blaming 2 billion people for the actions of one ten thousandth of 1% of them. The murder rate committed by British people is 100000 times greater than terrorism by Muslims.

Hope this saves us all some time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community.

I liked Charlotte Church's response to Piers Morgan when he said what you just copied from him:

"By your logic men should do more to root out rapists. Doesn't really work like that does it?"

then

"Most rapists are men-fact. Does that mean we blame all men for rapists and expect all men to root out rapists because most rapists are men?"

But I agree, something does have to be done to break this cycle. I would suggest not blanket labelling 23% of the worlds population as terrorists is a good start. Followed by stopping selling arms to those that fund their proxy wars in the middle east. Incarcerating Murdoch and Dacre for hate speech would also help.

-Matt"
Nailed it...

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By *ayde BlanchardTV/TS
over a year ago

lancashire

I agree it's not all Muslims just a small percentage. I am not English I came to the uk from Canada 15 years ago. It's was a culture shock to me different things. Do I demand you put up ice hockey stadiums up? No do I respect the people of this country yes. Donald Trump is an asshat we all know this but America and Canada were all descendants of immigrants. The true inhabitants were First Nation it was there land. At some point we took over and moved them out. 300 years in the future U.K will be a Muslim country because you cannot control your immigrants. We don't have the problem in Canada we're disarmed Americans with health care. Not saying it does not have its problems it does but. So soon after such a devastating attack were all hurt by this and just want some justice and feeling of I suppose revenge. I think this topic would be better to discuss when feelings not so high.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree it's not all Muslims just a small percentage. I am not English I came to the uk from Canada 15 years ago. It's was a culture shock to me different things. Do I demand you put up ice hockey stadiums up? No do I respect the people of this country yes. Donald Trump is an asshat we all know this but America and Canada were all descendants of immigrants. The true inhabitants were First Nation it was there land. At some point we took over and moved them out. 300 years in the future U.K will be a Muslim country because you cannot control your immigrants. We don't have the problem in Canada we're disarmed Americans with health care. Not saying it does not have its problems it does but. So soon after such a devastating attack were all hurt by this and just want some justice and feeling of I suppose revenge. I think this topic would be better to discuss when feelings not so high."

When you're preparing for revenge dig two graves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way" "

ETA blew up tunnels, trains and more. They only handed in their arms last year. I used to remember the brick lane and Brixton bomb by David Copeland when I lived in London. Terrorist come in all forms of religion race or ideology.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way"

ETA blew up tunnels, trains and more. They only handed in their arms last year. I used to remember the brick lane and Brixton bomb by David Copeland when I lived in London. Terrorist come in all forms of religion race or ideology. "

Yes...but they are not all alike! Not all make their objective killing as many people as possible !

The first mistake in dealing with them , is bundling them up as one single type !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately they don't know is Islam as a well as they think. Most Muslims don't even know that Mohammed married a child bride called Aisha when she was 5. I brought this up to a Muslim and he was fucking stunned.

You are supposed to emaulate Mohammed...the man who slit the throats of 800 innocent Jewish and men (Google the extermination of the Banu Quraiza) what do you expect to happen?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Oh look, the pale Jihadists have turned up...

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Unfortunately they don't know is Islam as a well as they think. Most Muslims don't even know that Mohammed married a child bride called Aisha when she was 5. I brought this up to a Muslim and he was fucking stunned.

You are supposed to emaulate Mohammed...the man who slit the throats of 800 innocent Jewish and men (Google the extermination of the Banu Quraiza) what do you expect to happen?"

That is more common then most think !

Here is a brilliant example :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja2RYJoawdA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh look, the pale Jihadists have turned up..."

Jihad is an Islamic concept.

Is that a "Khazarian" insult because I'm not dark?. Don't the worry mate, I've had that insult from Muslims for years now. I'm used to the racism.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Oh look, the pale Jihadists have turned up...

Jihad is an Islamic concept.

Is that a "Khazarian" insult because I'm not dark?. Don't the worry mate, I've had that insult from Muslims for years now. I'm used to the racism.

"

Haha! you've tried to deflect my point with semantics and a "woe is me" comment.

You'd love a holy war of your own, admit it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh look, the pale Jihadists have turned up...

Jihad is an Islamic concept.

Is that a "Khazarian" insult because I'm not dark?. Don't the worry mate, I've had that insult from Muslims for years now. I'm used to the racism.

Haha! you've tried to deflect my point with semantics and a "woe is me" comment.

You'd love a holy war of your own, admit it. "

Israel already flattened the combined Arab armies. It would be folly and would just lead to more backwards migration to Europe. The beggars of the globe.

It wasn't a deflection. I recognised your slur (of which you never denied).

Jihad is an islamic concept, it means struggle. They're issue, not mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh look, the pale Jihadists have turned up...

Jihad is an Islamic concept.

Is that a "Khazarian" insult because I'm not dark?. Don't the worry mate, I've had that insult from Muslims for years now. I'm used to the racism.

Haha! you've tried to deflect my point with semantics and a "woe is me" comment.

You'd love a holy war of your own, admit it. "

How is skin colour semantics?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way"

ETA blew up tunnels, trains and more. They only handed in their arms last year. I used to remember the brick lane and Brixton bomb by David Copeland when I lived in London. Terrorist come in all forms of religion race or ideology. "

Yep the IRA were not Muslim, but call a spade a spade and a terrorist is still a terrorist. It just so happens that the terrorist apologist Jeremy Corbyn also refused to outright condemn the IRA in an interview last weekend. The likes of the IRA and ISIS would love to see Corbyn as Prime Minister.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Oh look, the pale Jihadists have turned up...

Jihad is an Islamic concept.

Is that a "Khazarian" insult because I'm not dark?. Don't the worry mate, I've had that insult from Muslims for years now. I'm used to the racism.

Haha! you've tried to deflect my point with semantics and a "woe is me" comment.

You'd love a holy war of your own, admit it.

How is skin colour semantics? "

That wasn't the bit of your post I was referring to, but I think you know that.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community.

I liked Charlotte Church's response to Piers Morgan when he said what you just copied from him:

"By your logic men should do more to root out rapists. Doesn't really work like that does it?"

then

"Most rapists are men-fact. Does that mean we blame all men for rapists and expect all men to root out rapists because most rapists are men?"

But I agree, something does have to be done to break this cycle. I would suggest not blanket labelling 23% of the worlds population as terrorists is a good start. Followed by stopping selling arms to those that fund their proxy wars in the middle east. Incarcerating Murdoch and Dacre for hate speech would also help.

-Matt"

Well it just so happens a good proportion of recent high profile rapists cases have also been perpetrated by Muslims, anyone been watching the 3 part mini series on the BBC called Three Girls? It was about the Muslim paedophile grooming gangs who used underage girls in Rochdale, and the same thing also happened again by Muslims in Rotherham. So yeah by all means root them out but cut out the politically correct bullshit and arrest them and charge them when they are found.

If 23% of the world's population are Muslim and the problem of Islamic extremism comes from within that 23% then it's a pretty dumb idea to want more of them to come into the country to add to the problem. ISIS have said openly they intend to infiltrate western countries with their terrorist operatives be it through immigration or refugee programmes. So then in light of this Donald Trump wanted a temporary ban put in place from high risk Muslim countries to allow for better and tighter vetting controls in the USA and was roundly condemned by politically correct loony left liberals. When you already have a major problem like this with the Muslim community already here, why on earth would you want to add to it by bringing in more Muslims from abroad? Complete and utter madness!

As for your point about incarcerating Murdock for hate speech, would that also include tighter controls on the Internet and what is allowed online? Because just a few days ago on here you were ranting against Theresa May and the Conservatives plans to have tighter controls on the Internet and those very plans which you were clearly against also covered hate speech. I don't think Murdoch has actually called for anyone to go out and kill anyone else on any of his news media outlets though so I would suggest your priorities are wrong with what you consider hate speech. It's the hate speech of organisations like Islamic State that need to be stamped out (particularly on the internet) as they are the ones who are actively calling for Muslims to go out and murder non believer's.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community.

I liked Charlotte Church's response to Piers Morgan when he said what you just copied from him:

"By your logic men should do more to root out rapists. Doesn't really work like that does it?"

then

"Most rapists are men-fact. Does that mean we blame all men for rapists and expect all men to root out rapists because most rapists are men?"

But I agree, something does have to be done to break this cycle. I would suggest not blanket labelling 23% of the worlds population as terrorists is a good start. Followed by stopping selling arms to those that fund their proxy wars in the middle east. Incarcerating Murdoch and Dacre for hate speech would also help.

-Matt"

this..

the logic of stupid is still only stupid..

i expect Centaur that the next time some white bloke in your town abuses a child or sexually assaults someone that you, using your logic of prevention will get on your knees and apologise..?

no, course not and why should you..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Condemning the bombing is not enough, the Muslim community really need to root out the extremists within their mosques/friends/families and report them to police or give tip offs to anti terror authorities. How many more attacks will it take? It just seems like we keep going around in a cycle, when a terrorist attack happens, condemn attack, hold vigil, #prayforvictims on twitter or other social media then after a while go back to normal life then it happens again. Something has to be done to break the cycle this problem is coming from within the Muslim community it's about time they took more responsibility for it and did something about it. The moderate Muslim community really needs to be more engaged with the police and other anti terror authorities, I feel too many muslims must be turning a blind eye to what is going on in their community.

I liked Charlotte Church's response to Piers Morgan when he said what you just copied from him:

"By your logic men should do more to root out rapists. Doesn't really work like that does it?"

then

"Most rapists are men-fact. Does that mean we blame all men for rapists and expect all men to root out rapists because most rapists are men?"

But I agree, something does have to be done to break this cycle. I would suggest not blanket labelling 23% of the worlds population as terrorists is a good start. Followed by stopping selling arms to those that fund their proxy wars in the middle east. Incarcerating Murdoch and Dacre for hate speech would also help.

-Matt

Well it just so happens a good proportion of recent high profile rapists cases have also been perpetrated by Muslims, anyone been watching the 3 part mini series on the BBC called Three Girls? It was about the Muslim paedophile grooming gangs who used underage girls in Rochdale, and the same thing also happened again by Muslims in Rotherham. So yeah by all means root them out but cut out the politically correct bullshit and arrest them and charge them when they are found.

If 23% of the world's population are Muslim and the problem of Islamic extremism comes from within that 23% then it's a pretty dumb idea to want more of them to come into the country to add to the problem. ISIS have said openly they intend to infiltrate western countries with their terrorist operatives be it through immigration or refugee programmes. So then in light of this Donald Trump wanted a temporary ban put in place from high risk Muslim countries to allow for better and tighter vetting controls in the USA and was roundly condemned by politically correct loony left liberals. When you already have a major problem like this with the Muslim community already here, why on earth would you want to add to it by bringing in more Muslims from abroad? Complete and utter madness!

As for your point about incarcerating Murdock for hate speech, would that also include tighter controls on the Internet and what is allowed online? Because just a few days ago on here you were ranting against Theresa May and the Conservatives plans to have tighter controls on the Internet and those very plans which you were clearly against also covered hate speech. I don't think Murdoch has actually called for anyone to go out and kill anyone else on any of his news media outlets though so I would suggest your priorities are wrong with what you consider hate speech. It's the hate speech of organisations like Islamic State that need to be stamped out (particularly on the internet) as they are the ones who are actively calling for Muslims to go out and murder non believer's. "

it was a Muslim senior CPS lawyer who pushed the re investigation after the girls had been let down by guess whom..

people who if your prevention within the community based logic had been applied properly and done their jobs..

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By *rown ThunderMan
over a year ago

newport


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g"

This right here is your true representative of far right. Or a total ignorant prick. Hundreds of plots n attacks have been stopped because of the intelligence and tips given to the police by.....the muslim community. Do some research before spouting your venom. Do research. Not youtube clips.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

This right here is your true representative of far right. Or a total ignorant prick. Hundreds of plots n attacks have been stopped because of the intelligence and tips given to the police by.....the muslim community. Do some research before spouting your venom. Do research. Not youtube clips. "

Since when is telling the truth "spouting venom" ?

Who the hell are you to label anyone ignorant or as far right !

Are you referring to me, the muslim Tarek Fatah , or what ? please clarify !

In any case dont think that by being ofensive and "labeling" you are some how going to stop me exposing the Islamic agenda !

" Hundreds of plots n attacks have been stopped because of the intelligence and tips given to the police by.....the muslim community. "

Great ... tell that to the families of those blown to bits in Manchester !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way"

ETA blew up tunnels, trains and more. They only handed in their arms last year. I used to remember the brick lane and Brixton bomb by David Copeland when I lived in London. Terrorist come in all forms of religion race or ideology.

Yep the IRA were not Muslim, but call a spade a spade and a terrorist is still a terrorist. It just so happens that the terrorist apologist Jeremy Corbyn also refused to outright condemn the IRA in an interview last weekend. The likes of the IRA and ISIS would love to see Corbyn as Prime Minister. "

Already shared a quote. JC did condemn the IRA on sky news. They wrote an article on it. He also condemns Pinochet. Which Thatcher used to invite for tea.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

How is skin colour semantics? "

ever noticed that "brown" people are terrorists...... but white people have "mental issues".....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

How is skin colour semantics?

ever noticed that "brown" people are terrorists...... but white people have "mental issues"....."

No

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Neither AV I Fabio IRA r white think there terrorists don't u ?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way"

ETA blew up tunnels, trains and more. They only handed in their arms last year. I used to remember the brick lane and Brixton bomb by David Copeland when I lived in London. Terrorist come in all forms of religion race or ideology.

Yep the IRA were not Muslim, but call a spade a spade and a terrorist is still a terrorist. It just so happens that the terrorist apologist Jeremy Corbyn also refused to outright condemn the IRA in an interview last weekend. The likes of the IRA and ISIS would love to see Corbyn as Prime Minister.

Already shared a quote. JC did condemn the IRA on sky news. They wrote an article on it. He also condemns Pinochet. Which Thatcher used to invite for tea. "

Incorrect. Corbyn only condemned the bombing. He refused to condemn the IRA outright.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Neither AV I Fabio IRA r white think there terrorists don't u ?"

oh i do...... but when you mention catholic/christian terrorists doing exactly the same as ISIS in effect do..... people don't like the comparison....

so did all irish people have to say sorry for the acts of both unionist and catholic terrorists... as some people here want all muslims to say sorry for this nutjob!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

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By *he ODBMan
over a year ago

glasgow


"Neither AV I Fabio IRA r white think there terrorists don't u ?

oh i do...... but when you mention catholic/christian terrorists doing exactly the same as ISIS in effect do..... people don't like the comparison....

so did all irish people have to say sorry for the acts of both unionist and catholic terrorists... as some people here want all muslims to say sorry for this nutjob!"
couldn't even read the whole thread . "All terrorists are Muslim's ". Fucking hell the species is fucked if people actually believe this and aren't just sounding off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Neither AV I Fabio IRA r white think there terrorists don't u ?

oh i do...... but when you mention catholic/christian terrorists doing exactly the same as ISIS in effect do..... people don't like the comparison....

so did all irish people have to say sorry for the acts of both unionist and catholic terrorists... as some people here want all muslims to say sorry for this nutjob!"

There were large numbers in Ireland who supported the IRA and the Unionists. Do you think there might be a large number of Muslims in the UK who support this nutjob?

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Neither AV I Fabio IRA r white think there terrorists don't u ?

oh i do...... but when you mention catholic/christian terrorists doing exactly the same as ISIS in effect do..... people don't like the comparison....

so did all irish people have to say sorry for the acts of both unionist and catholic terrorists... as some people here want all muslims to say sorry for this nutjob!"

Lets get of this its the muslims fault train of thought !

The root problem is islam itself !

Some muslims follow it strictly , some follow it literally , some consider themselves as such... but don't practice it , or even frequent a mosque !

I dare say the latter ones are not the problem !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/manchester-attack-job-devil-says-13079697

“We, on behalf of the Muslim community in Birmingham strongly condemn the brutal terror attack in Manchester.They are the sick-minded individuals who have no mercy or love for human beings"

http://m.hulldailymail.co.uk/manchester-arena-terror-attack-hull-mosque-leader-condemns-islamic-state-atrocity/story-30349351-detail/story.html

We condemn any sort of attack, especially one like this. In Islam if you save a life, you save mankind and if you kill one person, you kill humanity. All life is precious.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-muslim-manchester-20170523-story.html

I love Manchester and its people — we are a resolute people and will not be divided by these barbaric animals or cowered by their violence

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/manchester-terror-attack-this-was-an-attack-on-us-all-says-leeds-imam-1-8557937

This was an attack on all of us. We absolutely condemn the barbaric acts of an individual determined to spread hate and prejudice across the world. “The senseless murder of innocents is utterly deplorable. With each mass murder, the terrorists deliberately seek to foster hatred and suspicion

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/hartlepool-muslims-condemn-barbaric-manchester-attack-1-8559283

“This was shocking and our deepest sympathy goes out to all the innocent victims of this terrible attack. “Whilst supposed Muslims are claiming responsibility for this, I want to re-emphasise that this has nothing to do with Islam or religion.”

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/crime/religious-leaders-in-peteborough-lead-prayers-for-victims-of-manchester-terror-attack-1-7973513

“Those who are responsible for acts like this, those who mastermind them and those who radicalise them must be punished for their actions.”

I just took the first 6 from Google news when searching for this. For the people who, wrongly, said yesterday that Muslims dont condemn these attacks the reaction was swift in their condemnation and the same message was said across the country: These attacks are barbaric, the people who commit them and aid them are wrong and everyone must do what they can to stop them.

Interestingly, and maybe my google skills are rusty, but the only national paper covering these comments I could find were American. But Im sure the Daily Mail covered this in order to give its readers a full and accurate view of the situation...nope they went with unfounded stories as part of their own campaign to induce terror in their readers.

Wow ! I am so impressed !

mmmmm.... NO not really !

1-Normal expected statement !

2-Done before , and will be done again next time , whether in the UK or elsewhere !

3- Usual bla bla bla about islam , muslims ....peace BS !

Here is a Question !

What are they doing , or have they done , to stop radicalisation in their midst ?

In what way are they contributing to expose those in their ranks they feel misrepresent islam ?

Simple answer !

They are not !

Actions speak louder then words .....

So lets see less lip service !

When moderate muslims speak..... Nobody listens !

Here is an example ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvJI7l4bLU

Here is the full version ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g

Completely true they do not and will not integrant into your society. They hide behind the Islam teaches piece line. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it appears all terrorists are Muslims. They know that and its damage limitation.

We redefined the term terrorist to suit us. Chileans were labelled terrorist. Then renamed to Prisoners of War but that meant they had more rights. Last of all relabelled to political prisoners. Then the torture and disappearance began.

Fair point but you name another religion that has the habbit of exploding? Targeting children is a new low and that's what they fear the backlash. We live in a time where everything we say that's true. Can be considered racist racism is like city centres "one way"

ETA blew up tunnels, trains and more. They only handed in their arms last year. I used to remember the brick lane and Brixton bomb by David Copeland when I lived in London. Terrorist come in all forms of religion race or ideology.

Yep the IRA were not Muslim, but call a spade a spade and a terrorist is still a terrorist. It just so happens that the terrorist apologist Jeremy Corbyn also refused to outright condemn the IRA in an interview last weekend. The likes of the IRA and ISIS would love to see Corbyn as Prime Minister. "
well since you mentioned Corbyn ..all the terrorist attacks this year in the UK ..the terrorist was known to police ..have been on a watch list but do not have the man power to watch them all ...in 2015 the police gave a warning to the then home Secretary about further cuts leaving the police thin on the ground and could be dangerous to the public the cuts were still made can you guess who the home Secretary was then? ....or are you still stuck on Corbyn for not condemning the Ira?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake "

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......"

A few?

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"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......"

What do you think of the 850 (known of) UK citizens who have gone to fight for ISIS in Iraq and Syria? And how many have returned? What should be done about them?

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over a year ago


"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......"
..........Maybe Fabio you should try walking down luton high street in an England top....i assure you it wont be a peaceful walk for you....then you might see why the British have concerns about this troublesome religion.

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over a year ago


"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......

What do you think of the 850 (known of) UK citizens who have gone to fight for ISIS in Iraq and Syria? And how many have returned? What should be done about them?"
....remember the two sisters who went to Syria and the Father on the news telling us how he could not understand how his innocent daughters would do such a thing and how they were a peace loving family.......two weeks later the news papers printed a picture of him at a anti west march...surrounded by ISIS flags.

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Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

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"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

"

When ostriches fly

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"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

"
Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it""

But I thought Muslims kill more other Muslims than people from the west so what does that have to do with it? Fuckin apologist for murder

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If it's only a few then wtf r we worrying about then they will all b under arrest in no time lol

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it""

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

So should we leave the Middle East alone then ?

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

But I thought Muslims kill more other Muslims than people from the west so what does that have to do with it? Fuckin apologist for murder "
If think killing 200,000 civilians in iraq alone never had any repercussions your fucking delusional.

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it""

The middle East has ALWAYS been a gaping wound of violence and instability.. western intervention has merely caused the root contagion to hemorrhage and spread.

I agree with your point re clumsy but well intentioned interventionism .. but all of those country's are sectarian powderkegs.. blaming the west shifts focus and lets the culpable off the hook.

It's disingenuous and lazy to unilaterally blame the West.

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it""
.....Remember over nearly two million Brits marched through London against these wars....me included....not our wars.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......

What do you think of the 850 (known of) UK citizens who have gone to fight for ISIS in Iraq and Syria? And how many have returned? What should be done about them?"

Seems to be an awful lot of these mentally ill Muslims about then.

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

"
the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back "
....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"I don't want Muslims to say sorry tho wot gud wud that do I'd rather them not turn a blind eye to the scum that do it like I said before there's no way they don't know who the radical loonies r there's no cominity tighter than there's for gods sake

actually... i want everyone to be held to the same standard and i don't believe that is happening..... that has been my point all along in every single one of these threads.......

in st ann's square in manchester at the moment, there is a banner that says "love for all, hatred for none".......

i am not going to tarr a whole group of people based on the actions of a few nutjobs......

A few? "

Yes. A few.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off."

As opposed to the bombs we've dropped and missiles we've fired at schools and hospitals? Yes it is barbaric. But, let us hold our own to the same standard.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You cant break what's broken....

"

Exactly.

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

"
Sure it had problems before we began bombing.Sectarianism was rife.We added fuel to the fire and a shit load of body bags.If your family was obliterated by collateral damage you'd have issues and most likley be damaged goods.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

Sure it had problems before we began bombing.Sectarianism was rife.We added fuel to the fire and a shit load of body bags.If your family was obliterated by collateral damage you'd have issues and most likley be damaged goods. "

When was the last time the government bombed Manchester?

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off.

As opposed to the bombs we've dropped and missiles we've fired at schools and hospitals? Yes it is barbaric. But, let us hold our own to the same standard.

-Matt"
....I would rather they went after the people that took us into these wars.....not our children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back "

By that logic .. shouldn't American have turned Pakistan - the hell hole that unofficially harboured Osama bin Laden into a smouldering creator instead of propping the failed sectarian hell hole up with international hand-outs (along with the UK)?

The majority of those who die in the middle East either die at the hands of their own or a rival faction native to their locality.

Highly disingenuous reasoning..

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

Sure it had problems before we began bombing.Sectarianism was rife.We added fuel to the fire and a shit load of body bags.If your family was obliterated by collateral damage you'd have issues and most likley be damaged goods. "

To unilaterally invite them all to come here is a really dumb idea then, wouldn't you say? The silly frau Merkel made a terrible mistake when she threw the doors of the EU open to these people and said "all welcome here".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


" ..all the terrorist attacks this year in the UK ..the terrorist was known to police ..have been on a watch list but do not have the man power to watch them all ...in 2015 the police gave a warning to the then home Secretary about further cuts leaving the police thin on the ground and could be dangerous to the public the cuts were still made can you guess who the home Secretary was then? ....or are you still stuck on Corbyn for not condemning the Ira?"

her record as Home Sec was a disgrace, at the same time as she was cutting the police by tens of thousands her cuts to the border agencies have also been drastic at a time when we know people have been radicalised and gone to places like Syria..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?"
........Been saying this for a long time....the Brits showed their disgust at these wars that we did not want....now maybe they should show their disgust.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?"

we were ignored and many on here of your own political persuasion have used the language of derision and scoffing at us for doing so..

it was interesting to march that day with many Muslims and both serving and fellow retired military personnel but be in no doubt those on the right did nothing but pour scorn upon it..

if only so many of the right in power who also were in favour of the action and others had but realised how that particular fuck up would turn out..

there is for your info a large number of Muslims within the stop the war coalition..

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"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off.

As opposed to the bombs we've dropped and missiles we've fired at schools and hospitals? Yes it is barbaric. But, let us hold our own to the same standard.

-Matt....I would rather they went after the people that took us into these wars.....not our children."

It's not really about western intervention, they have always been a malevolence either controlled by an iron fist in their own nations of origin or dispensed with when they become a liability.

The same reductive narrative is unfortunately playing out elsewhere that has always plagued Muslim societies since they were invaded and forced to follow the Arabian charlatan and watch their society spiral into gutter.

Muslims historically do not advance or enhance society.. they destroy them and turn them into a type of relgiously sycophantic Sodom and Gomorrah . That is their history.. western neoliberal masochism aside.

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over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

Sure it had problems before we began bombing.Sectarianism was rife.We added fuel to the fire and a shit load of body bags.If your family was obliterated by collateral damage you'd have issues and most likley be damaged goods.

To unilaterally invite them all to come here is a really dumb idea then, wouldn't you say? The silly frau Merkel made a terrible mistake when she threw the doors of the EU open to these people and said "all welcome here". "
Sure some who arrived had revenge in mind or hate in their heart some where fleeing war.Some poles that came to the uk committed crimes some just wanted work.Some brits living on the costa del sol are wanted gangsters some are pensioners.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

we were ignored and many on here of your own political persuasion have used the language of derision and scoffing at us for doing so..

it was interesting to march that day with many Muslims and both serving and fellow retired military personnel but be in no doubt those on the right did nothing but pour scorn upon it..

if only so many of the right in power who also were in favour of the action and others had but realised how that particular fuck up would turn out..

there is for your info a large number of Muslims within the stop the war coalition.."

Who were the government of the day during the invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, it was Labour wasn't it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off.

As opposed to the bombs we've dropped and missiles we've fired at schools and hospitals? Yes it is barbaric. But, let us hold our own to the same standard.

-Matt....I would rather they went after the people that took us into these wars.....not our children."

as usual those are protected beyond a level that we will never have or may want ..

they are happy to send other people's sons and daughters to far off lands to die for their idea's and values though so nothing changes really..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

we were ignored and many on here of your own political persuasion have used the language of derision and scoffing at us for doing so..

it was interesting to march that day with many Muslims and both serving and fellow retired military personnel but be in no doubt those on the right did nothing but pour scorn upon it..

if only so many of the right in power who also were in favour of the action and others had but realised how that particular fuck up would turn out..

there is for your info a large number of Muslims within the stop the war coalition..

Who were the government of the day during the invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, it was Labour wasn't it. "

yes sadly they were but not all voted for it, by the way the Tories were behind it pretty much to a man and woman too..

Corbyn not only opposed it he gave a very good reasoned argument why it should not happen..

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off.

As opposed to the bombs we've dropped and missiles we've fired at schools and hospitals? Yes it is barbaric. But, let us hold our own to the same standard.

-Matt....I would rather they went after the people that took us into these wars.....not our children."

And I'm sure they feel the same.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?"

They have.

December 2015.

Hear about it? No. Why? Because none of the mainstream media covered it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-anti-isis-march-not-covered-by-mainstream-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html

"Organiser Waqar Haider said: "This year we had hundreds of placards which were basically saying ‘no’ to terrorism and ‘no’ to Isis. A very direct message."

-Matt

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off."

that anyone's children die or any person in such a manner is shaming on us as humans..

a dead child at a wedding in Iraq or Pakistan is termed collateral damage and there is a payment..

i am not saying that an action requires a reaction but to a person in another country their loss is no less that the loss many other people have felt in Madrid, Berlin, Paris, London and now Manchester..

they the extremists see hardly any mention in the west when whole families have been wiped out by some bloke on a computer in the US flying a drone and the intel is dodgy..

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

we were ignored and many on here of your own political persuasion have used the language of derision and scoffing at us for doing so..

it was interesting to march that day with many Muslims and both serving and fellow retired military personnel but be in no doubt those on the right did nothing but pour scorn upon it..

if only so many of the right in power who also were in favour of the action and others had but realised how that particular fuck up would turn out..

there is for your info a large number of Muslims within the stop the war coalition..

Who were the government of the day during the invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, it was Labour wasn't it.

yes sadly they were but not all voted for it, by the way the Tories were behind it pretty much to a man and woman too..

Corbyn not only opposed it he gave a very good reasoned argument why it should not happen.."

Do did George Galloway. Would you like him to be Prime Minister too?

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over a year ago

Strange how they put a Ftwa on Salman Rushdie.....But not Tony Blair.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

we were ignored and many on here of your own political persuasion have used the language of derision and scoffing at us for doing so..

it was interesting to march that day with many Muslims and both serving and fellow retired military personnel but be in no doubt those on the right did nothing but pour scorn upon it..

if only so many of the right in power who also were in favour of the action and others had but realised how that particular fuck up would turn out..

there is for your info a large number of Muslims within the stop the war coalition..

Who were the government of the day during the invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, it was Labour wasn't it.

yes sadly they were but not all voted for it, by the way the Tories were behind it pretty much to a man and woman too..

Corbyn not only opposed it he gave a very good reasoned argument why it should not happen..

Do did George Galloway. Would you like him to be Prime Minister too? "

You really have no sense of how to construct a logic argument do you Centaur?

-Matt

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

we were ignored and many on here of your own political persuasion have used the language of derision and scoffing at us for doing so..

it was interesting to march that day with many Muslims and both serving and fellow retired military personnel but be in no doubt those on the right did nothing but pour scorn upon it..

if only so many of the right in power who also were in favour of the action and others had but realised how that particular fuck up would turn out..

there is for your info a large number of Muslims within the stop the war coalition..

Who were the government of the day during the invasion of Iraq? Oh yeah, it was Labour wasn't it.

yes sadly they were but not all voted for it, by the way the Tories were behind it pretty much to a man and woman too..

Corbyn not only opposed it he gave a very good reasoned argument why it should not happen..

Do did George Galloway. Would you like him to be Prime Minister too? "

never been keen on George to be honest, heard him speak and whilst he does say some sensible things and like others has sadly been shown to be right he's not for me ty..

Btw Centaur iv'e said it on here that i don't see Corbyn (despite liking some of his policies) as PM as middle England/ middle ground voters wont go for him etc but the current one is doing her best to upset those voters so as we all know of late who can say..

not getting worried are you..?

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back ....What little children at a pop concert.....fuck off."

We all know that children have been caught up in Western airstrikes in the past so don't act like this is a sudden new low.

Let's be honest as well about the real reasons we get involved in the Middle East as well - Oil and Money. The oil would still be there even if the Islamic faith wasn't, so the West would still have interfered in that region and probably still have created enemies in the process of ripping off an entire sub continent for its natural resources.

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"Strange how they put a Ftwa on Salman Rushdie.....But not Tony Blair."
strange hes never stood trial

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?

They have.

December 2015.

Hear about it? No. Why? Because none of the mainstream media covered it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-anti-isis-march-not-covered-by-mainstream-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html

"Organiser Waqar Haider said: "This year we had hundreds of placards which were basically saying ‘no’ to terrorism and ‘no’ to Isis. A very direct message."

-Matt"
muslims say time time again that they have nothing to do with isis.

isis is funded by saudi arabia who support a different type of islam. in fact isis and saudi arabia want the same out come.

and also practice the same religion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Europe is affected with a type of masochistic white guilt minorities use and exploit to literally.. get away with murder.

These people flee problems in their own nations caused by Islam then seek to segregate themselves and create the same problems that caused them to flee there.. they're stuck in a type of disturbing Stockholm Syndrome that is not just affecting them anymore.. others who are don't subscribe to their mediaeval outlook's rooted in the blitherings of a warped mentally ill Arabian 6th century paedophile.. Muhammad are now being caught in the crossfire.

I certainly oppose discrimination but when something is shown to be so consistently devoid of merit and malevolent to both it's captive "faithful" and innocents caught in the middle.. there is undeniably something rotten and irredeemable about the fundamentals of it.

At what point will people admit this instead of endlessly indulging such a debased corrupt and dehumanising malignant remnant from the wasteland of a 6th century middle eastern desert.

Bombing the fuck out of the middle east for decades never created any problems at all.. Yeah we are absolved of any responsibility.You know the saying "You break it you own it"

Problem Bob is.... that region had problems... long before we bombed the fuck out of them...... or rather long before bombs even existed ... lol.... and that is going quite a way back......

You cant break what's broken....

the other problem is you bomb some people then you should expect these people to bomb you back

By that logic .. shouldn't American have turned Pakistan - the hell hole that unofficially harboured Osama bin Laden into a smouldering creator instead of propping the failed sectarian hell hole up with international hand-outs (along with the UK)?

The majority of those who die in the middle East either die at the hands of their own or a rival faction native to their locality.

Highly disingenuous reasoning.."
bin laden bombed American America killed him ...that is my logic poor excuse of a comeback

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?........Been saying this for a long time....the Brits showed their disgust at these wars that we did not want....now maybe they should show their disgust."
Exactly

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?........Been saying this for a long time....the Brits showed their disgust at these wars that we did not want....now maybe they should show their disgust. Exactly "
they do, probably wont hear it or read about it in the right wing propaganda media you seem to be brainwashed by

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?........Been saying this for a long time....the Brits showed their disgust at these wars that we did not want....now maybe they should show their disgust. Exactly they do, probably wont hear it or read about it in the right wing propaganda media you seem to be brainwashed by"
....Was is reported in the left wing media then.??

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?........Been saying this for a long time....the Brits showed their disgust at these wars that we did not want....now maybe they should show their disgust. Exactly they do, probably wont hear it or read about it in the right wing propaganda media you seem to be brainwashed by....Was is reported in the left wing media then.??"
yes!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thier was a huge stop the War Match for Iraq.

Would it not be a good idea for the decent Muslims to have a stop the war March directed at I S ?........Been saying this for a long time....the Brits showed their disgust at these wars that we did not want....now maybe they should show their disgust. Exactly they do, probably wont hear it or read about it in the right wing propaganda media you seem to be brainwashed by....Was is reported in the left wing media then.?? yes!!!"
......Tell me about it.

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By *ingdong11Man
over a year ago

emsworth


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How is skin colour semantics?

ever noticed that "brown" people are terrorists...... but white people have "mental issues"....."

This is simply not true _abio and a stupid thing to say .

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin

They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously."

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange how they put a Ftwa on Salman Rushdie.....But not Tony Blair. strange hes never stood trial"

Not this bullshit again......

You have to break a law that has an agreed punishment to be brought to trial to ascertain if you're guilty or not.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously."

You got it all right....and got it all wrong ! It depends !

Regarding your questions....

A minority do on the positives and negatives !

Yes ....they did advance civilisation , but that paradoxically was way back in the middle ages !

In the so called islamic golden age between the 8th and 13th century !

This happened because during that period the monarchs ruled ,and the mullahs were kept in their place !

Today... the Mullahs rule....

So strangely they have regressed !

Today they are in the dark ages ... and it shows !

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant "

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent."

So what are the problems? You are not looking at reality are you? You are the problem

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over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent."

An uncomfortable truth is not unjustified hate, this is where the west are going wrong. Islam is a death and conquest cult by design, conceived by the mediaeval equivalent of a used car salesman to curry influence and prominence among illiterate and ignorant nomads in his wasteland of origin .

Its basically a Mediaeval Arab nationalist cult hidden behind a facade of religious conceit..

A Muslim believes (unwittingly or knowingly) it's perfectly acceptable to enslave or murder non believer's.. it's acceptable to denounce a fellow Muslim who strives to improve there surroundings counter to the Qurans teachings as a subversive apostate and kill them.

It's a kamikaze death cult. The goal of it is a global caliphate of brainwashed captives that worship the debased and barren wastelands of Mecca .. 5 times a day while their societies crumble around them .

It is not an exaggeration to say since it's inception by the 6th century child rapist Muhammad.. it has given the world nothing but problems and conflict - inwardly and outwardly.

There are decent human beings who happen to be Muslim that are decent inspite of Islam , not because of.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent.

So what are the problems? You are not looking at reality are you? You are the problem"

The problems are that there are groups funding terrorists and terrorism. That money comes from somewhere not out of thin air.

Theres a problem with fundamentalists using religion as a means to power and money.

And theres root causes of the anger, disaffection and hatred that leads people to violence.

Cut off the money, kill the leaders and put a stop to the causes of what leads people to think violence is the option. You'll probably say its a lost cause and yet in your own country we no longer have the army murdering civilians, the IRA shooting people and loyalists bombing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent.

So what are the problems? You are not looking at reality are you? You are the problem

The problems are that there are groups funding terrorists and terrorism. That money comes from somewhere not out of thin air.

Theres a problem with fundamentalists using religion as a means to power and money.

And theres root causes of the anger, disaffection and hatred that leads people to violence.

Cut off the money, kill the leaders and put a stop to the causes of what leads people to think violence is the option. You'll probably say its a lost cause and yet in your own country we no longer have the army murdering civilians, the IRA shooting people and loyalists bombing."

You really don't understand any of it

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent.

So what are the problems? You are not looking at reality are you? You are the problem

The problems are that there are groups funding terrorists and terrorism. That money comes from somewhere not out of thin air.

Theres a problem with fundamentalists using religion as a means to power and money.

And theres root causes of the anger, disaffection and hatred that leads people to violence.

Cut off the money, kill the leaders and put a stop to the causes of what leads people to think violence is the option. You'll probably say its a lost cause and yet in your own country we no longer have the army murdering civilians, the IRA shooting people and loyalists bombing.

You really don't understand any of it"

Your usual excellent analysis has left me gobsmacked with your depth and insight once more. You should write a book.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban


"

You really don't understand any of it"

Go on then..

Explain how more violence will solve the problem?

Violence-last refuge of the incompetent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent.

So what are the problems? You are not looking at reality are you? You are the problem

The problems are that there are groups funding terrorists and terrorism. That money comes from somewhere not out of thin air.

Theres a problem with fundamentalists using religion as a means to power and money.

And theres root causes of the anger, disaffection and hatred that leads people to violence.

Cut off the money, kill the leaders and put a stop to the causes of what leads people to think violence is the option. You'll probably say its a lost cause and yet in your own country we no longer have the army murdering civilians, the IRA shooting people and loyalists bombing.

You really don't understand any of it"

Well the West financed the Taliban to beat the Russians. Al-Qaida was born. The West finances the rebels to fight against Gadaffi. Those rebels are fighting among ISIS. Trumps new target is Iran. Maybe a new rebel group can be financed. To be fair it seems Putin is the sane one when it comes to the middle East.

Do you know China and Russia are now advising Iran and Venezuela?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

You got it all right....and got it all wrong ! It depends !

Regarding your questions....

A minority do on the positives and negatives !

Yes ....they did advance civilisation , but that paradoxically was way back in the middle ages !

In the so called islamic golden age between the 8th and 13th century !

This happened because during that period the monarchs ruled ,and the mullahs were kept in their place !

Today... the Mullahs rule....

So strangely they have regressed !

Today they are in the dark ages ... and it shows ! "

It's also important to note their "golden age" was built on the advancements and established academia of country's they invaded.

They just subsumed existing knowledge, once the contagion of Islam eroded the base culture that produced those invocations.. they effectively spiralled into a gutter full of impoverished and diseaed "faithful".. ruled over by an elite of corrupt invaders .

Islam has given the world nothing. It's parasitic cult that sucks the value out of anywhere it contaminates, turning once great civilisations into diseased barren husks ultimately reducing it to a smouldering pile of ruble and slums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

You got it all right....and got it all wrong ! It depends !

Regarding your questions....

A minority do on the positives and negatives !

Yes ....they did advance civilisation , but that paradoxically was way back in the middle ages !

In the so called islamic golden age between the 8th and 13th century !

This happened because during that period the monarchs ruled ,and the mullahs were kept in their place !

Today... the Mullahs rule....

So strangely they have regressed !

Today they are in the dark ages ... and it shows !

It's also important to note their "golden age" was built on the advancements and established academia of country's they invaded.

They just subsumed existing knowledge, once the contagion of Islam eroded the base culture that produced those invocations.. they effectively spiralled into a gutter full of impoverished and diseaed "faithful".. ruled over by an elite of corrupt invaders .

Islam has given the world nothing. It's parasitic cult that sucks the value out of anywhere it contaminates, turning once great civilisations into diseased barren husks ultimately reducing it to a smouldering pile of ruble and slums."

I saw a documentary that explained the origins of modern Islam recently too. Although only one side of the story it certainly opened my eyes.

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

And while people like yourself continue making excuses the bombings will continue. And some of the posters on this site who I am sure you would class as right wing, myself included probably, either live abroad or in my case spend half my life abroad, among foreigners would you believe, never mind the fact that half my family are foreign, would actually make your post and thoughts a little ignorant

What excuses did I make? No ones justified the bombing, Ive said already on here that it was a cowardly evil act.

But Im not looking to make things worse by increasing the amount of unjustified hatred. Im not the one revelling in my ignorance instead of looking at facts and reality. Because thats how you defeat terrorism. You look at what the problems actually are instead of the imaginary ones you invent.

So what are the problems? You are not looking at reality are you? You are the problem

The problems are that there are groups funding terrorists and terrorism. That money comes from somewhere not out of thin air.

Theres a problem with fundamentalists using religion as a means to power and money.

And theres root causes of the anger, disaffection and hatred that leads people to violence.

Cut off the money, kill the leaders and put a stop to the causes of what leads people to think violence is the option. You'll probably say its a lost cause and yet in your own country we no longer have the army murdering civilians, the IRA shooting people and loyalists bombing.

You really don't understand any of it

Well the West financed the Taliban to beat the Russians. Al-Qaida was born. The West finances the rebels to fight against Gadaffi. Those rebels are fighting among ISIS. Trumps new target is Iran. Maybe a new rebel group can be financed. To be fair it seems Putin is the sane one when it comes to the middle East.

Do you know China and Russia are now advising Iran and Venezuela?"
and apparently this manchester was in lybia and was fighting alongside us backed rebels against syrian gov forces

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They dont comdemn terrorism.

Except they do.

They dont help prevent and arrest terrorists.

Except they do.

They don't integrate with society.

Except they do.

They dont march against terrorism.

Except they did.

We didnt murder they're children.

Except you did.

They never advanced civilisation.

Except they did. Coffee, universitys, toothbrushes, bicycles, caesarians, algebra, optics, violins, organised hospitals,soap, distillation, the guitar, glasses and many of the vital surgical procedures came from Muslims.

Muslim countries are always violent.

Except theyre not. Iran was peaceful until America installed the oppressive regime. Violent crime including murders is lower in many Muslim countries than Britain.

Right wing posters are going to ignore the facts because theyre ignorant and are uncomfortable with foreign people.

Well obviously.

You got it all right....and got it all wrong ! It depends !

Regarding your questions....

A minority do on the positives and negatives !

Yes ....they did advance civilisation , but that paradoxically was way back in the middle ages !

In the so called islamic golden age between the 8th and 13th century !

This happened because during that period the monarchs ruled ,and the mullahs were kept in their place !

Today... the Mullahs rule....

So strangely they have regressed !

Today they are in the dark ages ... and it shows !

It's also important to note their "golden age" was built on the advancements and established academia of country's they invaded.

They just subsumed existing knowledge, once the contagion of Islam eroded the base culture that produced those invocations.. they effectively spiralled into a gutter full of impoverished and diseaed "faithful".. ruled over by an elite of corrupt invaders .

Islam has given the world nothing. It's parasitic cult that sucks the value out of anywhere it contaminates, turning once great civilisations into diseased barren husks ultimately reducing it to a smouldering pile of ruble and slums.

I saw a documentary that explained the origins of modern Islam recently too. Although only one side of the story it certainly opened my eyes."

Martin Amis makes some very salient and succinct points in this channel 4 interview from a few years ago..

https://youtu.be/eIKFKg0Rr6w

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"

It's also important to note their "golden age" was built on the advancements and established academia of country's they invaded.

They just subsumed existing knowledge, once the contagion of Islam eroded the base culture that produced those invocations.. they effectively spiralled into a gutter full of impoverished and diseaed "faithful".. ruled over by an elite of corrupt invaders .

Islam has given the world nothing. It's parasitic cult that sucks the value out of anywhere it contaminates, turning once great civilisations into diseased barren husks ultimately reducing it to a smouldering pile of ruble and slums."

What you post is remarkably similar to how ISIS describes the west.

Invaders who made no improvements to the world. A pathogen that killed native people in North America, South America and Australia. Reducing great civilisations to rubble. Ruled by an elite of corrupt leaders.

So your rhetoric has sunk as low as ISIS. All you need to do is to advocate wiping them out and you'll be the exact same as them.

Youre an incredibly ignorant and hateful individual. Abu al-Kasim was a muslim who shaped modern surgery by discovering methods to operate on the esophagus, ear and urethra. Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi created algebra. Ibn Khaldun is considered one of the fathers of historography, sociology and economics.

Your ideas of Muslims contributing nothing to the world are wrong. Your idea that Muslim countries are some "gutter" are wrong. Iran was a modern thriving democracy until the Americans instituted regime change. Turkey for many years was peaceful and thriving as are many other countries in the middle east.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's also important to note their "golden age" was built on the advancements and established academia of country's they invaded.

They just subsumed existing knowledge, once the contagion of Islam eroded the base culture that produced those invocations.. they effectively spiralled into a gutter full of impoverished and diseaed "faithful".. ruled over by an elite of corrupt invaders .

Islam has given the world nothing. It's parasitic cult that sucks the value out of anywhere it contaminates, turning once great civilisations into diseased barren husks ultimately reducing it to a smouldering pile of ruble and slums.

What you post is remarkably similar to how ISIS describes the west.

Invaders who made no improvements to the world. A pathogen that killed native people in North America, South America and Australia. Reducing great civilisations to rubble. Ruled by an elite of corrupt leaders.

So your rhetoric has sunk as low as ISIS. All you need to do is to advocate wiping them out and you'll be the exact same as them.

Youre an incredibly ignorant and hateful individual. Abu al-Kasim was a muslim who shaped modern surgery by discovering methods to operate on the esophagus, ear and urethra. Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi created algebra. Ibn Khaldun is considered one of the fathers of historography, sociology and economics.

Your ideas of Muslims contributing nothing to the world are wrong. Your idea that Muslim countries are some "gutter" are wrong. Iran was a modern thriving democracy until the Americans instituted regime change. Turkey for many years was peaceful and thriving as are many other countries in the middle east."

It's not rhetoric that belies a core myopic dislike of the "other", it's basically a summation of history..

Islam is a cult of destructive and death, documented history shows this over and over..

As far as Isis or whatever the current marauding band of genocidal fanatical malcontents call themselves.. the middle East and Muslims in general have always used the west as a convenient whipping boy to deflect shirk off and minimise their own roles in the devastations and injustice within their own places of origin..

They usually range from laughable far fetched elaborate Zionist Illuminati plots to something else equally absurd. The gist is always.. someone else to blame.. abdicate personal responsibility, blame and persecute others. Anything but accept their "pure" religion can bare fault .

Please, don't berate me for reading history, accepting the lessons of history and commenting based on the reality of its lessons. Fact and truth are static and tell a tale some cannot accept.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*"

Because you choose not to acknowledge them? Go on, take 5 seconds to type it into Wikipedia and you'll get a list.

Granted not as many these days as the Muslim terrorist attacks, but then the Sikhs and Hindus seem to not have had the misfortune of having 'the west' bomb the fuck out of them for their natural resources in the same way we have done the Muslim countries in recent years.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*"

I watch YouTube video from a great Sikh guy. He runs a Sikh group that helps counter this. He said that Sikhs are furious about the Rochdale Muslim predators not being defined as Muslim but as "Asian", inditing all of them.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"

It's also important to note their "golden age" was built on the advancements and established academia of country's they invaded.

They just subsumed existing knowledge, once the contagion of Islam eroded the base culture that produced those invocations.. they effectively spiralled into a gutter full of impoverished and diseaed "faithful".. ruled over by an elite of corrupt invaders .

Islam has given the world nothing. It's parasitic cult that sucks the value out of anywhere it contaminates, turning once great civilisations into diseased barren husks ultimately reducing it to a smouldering pile of ruble and slums.

What you post is remarkably similar to how ISIS describes the west.

Invaders who made no improvements to the world. A pathogen that killed native people in North America, South America and Australia. Reducing great civilisations to rubble. Ruled by an elite of corrupt leaders.

So your rhetoric has sunk as low as ISIS. All you need to do is to advocate wiping them out and you'll be the exact same as them.

Youre an incredibly ignorant and hateful individual. Abu al-Kasim was a muslim who shaped modern surgery by discovering methods to operate on the esophagus, ear and urethra. Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi created algebra. Ibn Khaldun is considered one of the fathers of historography, sociology and economics.

Your ideas of Muslims contributing nothing to the world are wrong. Your idea that Muslim countries are some "gutter" are wrong. Iran was a modern thriving democracy until the Americans instituted regime change. Turkey for many years was peaceful and thriving as are many other countries in the middle east."

I totally agree ! In regards to Turkey !

It was doing fine ...and got somewhat out of the gutter , but that was under the Ataturk constitution and his modern secular regime !

Now under the islamist Erdogan , its regressing into another "islamic republic" that supports Isis !

Isn't it amazing the progress islam brings ?

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"

It's not rhetoric that belies a core myopic dislike of the "other", it's basically a summation of history..

Islam is a cult of destructive and death, documented history shows this over and over..

As far as Isis or whatever the current marauding band of genocidal fanatical malcontents call themselves.. the middle East and Muslims in general have always used the west as a convenient whipping boy to deflect shirk off and minimise their own roles in the devastations and injustice within their own places of origin..

They usually range from laughable far fetched elaborate Zionist Illuminati plots to something else equally absurd. The gist is always.. someone else to blame.. abdicate personal responsibility, blame and persecute others. Anything but accept their "pure" religion can bare fault .

Please, don't berate me for reading history, accepting the lessons of history and commenting based on the reality of its lessons. Fact and truth are static and tell a tale some cannot accept."

Facts: Islam fits no definition of cult.

The 3 largest populations of Muslims are: Indonesia, India and Pakistan.

Albania Cyprus and Tunisia are another 3 majority islamic countries who are 3 of the best performing countries in their regions on quality of life.

I wouldnt berate you if your reading was backed by fact. But it isnt. The 3 largest populations have nothing to do with ISIS and muslim majority countries have outperformed their neighbours. And muslims in our own communities are doctors, police, teachers, paramedics and live peaceful lives. And your diatribe on Muslims never contributing to the world is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*"

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

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over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*"

I put a large part of it due to the enlightenment and industrial revolution.

During these events many western imperial powers controlled the geographical regions where the faiths you mentioned are consolidated.

In short these events started the gradual nutering of religion and its power. When people see the benifits and advantages of secularism, and science and readoning, religion steadily moves to the backseat

Islam was never really exposed to it in this way - hence it was never forced to change its tune like catholosim for example.

Remember, it took 400-300 years for europe to move from religion to secularism fully. Islam will probably take less time but still a signifigant amount.

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over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

"

Christianity, various pagan faiths and athesists all have a similar smount of blood on their hands.

Face it, the human capacity to inflict harm on obe another is unlimited. All it takes is a political, philosophical or religious group to aquire the manpower amd resourses to excecute their dorld view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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It's not rhetoric that belies a core myopic dislike of the "other", it's basically a summation of history..

Islam is a cult of destructive and death, documented history shows this over and over..

As far as Isis or whatever the current marauding band of genocidal fanatical malcontents call themselves.. the middle East and Muslims in general have always used the west as a convenient whipping boy to deflect shirk off and minimise their own roles in the devastations and injustice within their own places of origin..

They usually range from laughable far fetched elaborate Zionist Illuminati plots to something else equally absurd. The gist is always.. someone else to blame.. abdicate personal responsibility, blame and persecute others. Anything but accept their "pure" religion can bare fault .

Please, don't berate me for reading history, accepting the lessons of history and commenting based on the reality of its lessons. Fact and truth are static and tell a tale some cannot accept.

Facts: Islam fits no definition of cult.

The 3 largest populations of Muslims are: Indonesia, India and Pakistan.

Albania Cyprus and Tunisia are another 3 majority islamic countries who are 3 of the best performing countries in their regions on quality of life.

I wouldnt berate you if your reading was backed by fact. But it isnt. The 3 largest populations have nothing to do with ISIS and muslim majority countries have outperformed their neighbours. And muslims in our own communities are doctors, police, teachers, paramedics and live peaceful lives. And your diatribe on Muslims never contributing to the world is ridiculous."

Cyprus is not Muslim, it's partially occupied by Turks planted their from ottoman eras or more recently when the Turkish military invaded and started to move people their to skew demographics . It's another example of Muslims encroaching into a territory and undermining it's identity with no real benefit for its inhabitants.

Albania.. impoverished.. remnants from ottoman colonialism.

Pakistan another impoverished Muslim hell hole were minorities can be persecuted , murdered with impunity.. Islam is NOT native to the Indian subcontinent. Byproduct of Arab colonialism and countless genocide commited? by them or those ensnared within the Stockholm Syndrome of Islam.

India.. a secular democracy that is home to many faiths BUT only one seems to cause problems consistently.

You illustrate my points, you don't disprove then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

Christianity, various pagan faiths and athesists all have a similar smount of blood on their hands.

Face it, the human capacity to inflict harm on obe another is unlimited. All it takes is a political, philosophical or religious group to aquire the manpower amd resourses to excecute their dorld view."

Islam especially seems to play to and inflame the worst aspects of human nature.. I take no relish in saying it, it's simply.. just true.

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

Christianity, various pagan faiths and athesists all have a similar smount of blood on their hands.

Face it, the human capacity to inflict harm on obe another is unlimited. All it takes is a political, philosophical or religious group to aquire the manpower amd resourses to excecute their dorld view.

Islam especially seems to play to and inflame the worst aspects of human nature.. I take no relish in saying it, it's simply.. just true.

"

Christians have more blood in their hands than Muslims. They decimated 98% of the native populations on 3 continents.

The British have more blood on their hands than any country.

How does that fit in to your twisted narrative?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

Christianity, various pagan faiths and athesists all have a similar smount of blood on their hands.

Face it, the human capacity to inflict harm on obe another is unlimited. All it takes is a political, philosophical or religious group to aquire the manpower amd resourses to excecute their dorld view.

Islam especially seems to play to and inflame the worst aspects of human nature.. I take no relish in saying it, it's simply.. just true.

Christians have more blood in their hands than Muslims. They decimated 98% of the native populations on 3 continents.

The British have more blood on their hands than any country.

How does that fit in to your twisted narrative?"

Pathetic and glib. How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Too funny. The Europeans documented their historical blemishes warts and all. Muslims do not. Looking at how they behave present day should give you an idea of what they did from the 6th century onwards.

Isn't it curious how very few documentations exists to gauge the extent of their genocidal murder sprees . Their slave trade in Africa some estimate (conservatively) killed over 80 million black African "kuffar"in transit alone over a 1400 year period.

Do you think people just laid down and welcomed Muslims in to pillage exploit and destroy their societies?

Save the glib neoliberal masochism . It's nauseating and played out.

One set of historical blemishes do not excuse or negate another. Western civilisations may have made mistakes but they have also accepted their mistakes and have largely chosen to learn from them rather than repeat them.

Your? type of deflective what-outery.. is a glib empty sanctimonious tosh.

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

Christianity, various pagan faiths and athesists all have a similar smount of blood on their hands.

Face it, the human capacity to inflict harm on obe another is unlimited. All it takes is a political, philosophical or religious group to aquire the manpower amd resourses to excecute their dorld view.

Islam especially seems to play to and inflame the worst aspects of human nature.. I take no relish in saying it, it's simply.. just true.

Christians have more blood in their hands than Muslims. They decimated 98% of the native populations on 3 continents.

The British have more blood on their hands than any country.

How does that fit in to your twisted narrative?

Pathetic and glib. How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Too funny. The Europeans documented their historical blemishes warts and all. Muslims do not. Looking at how they behave present day should give you an idea of what they did from the 6th century onwards.

Isn't it curious how very few documentations exists to gauge the extent of their genocidal murder sprees . Their slave trade in Africa some estimate (conservatively) killed over 80 million black African "kuffar"in transit alone over a 1400 year period.

Do you think people just laid down and welcomed Muslims in to pillage exploit and destroy their societies?

Save the glib neoliberal masochism . It's nauseating and played out.

One set of historical blemishes do not excuse or negate another. Western civilisations may have made mistakes but they have also accepted their mistakes and have largely chosen to learn from them rather than repeat them.

Your? type of deflective what-outery.. is a glib empty sanctimonious tosh.

"

So your issue is one of documentation? The west documented the annhilation of hundreds of millions so thats ok. But you havent seen enough documentation for the Muslims who conquered and engaged in slavery so thats not ok?

And if the west has learned anything its that installing proxy leaders is cheaper and less work than properly conquering them. Thats why the west staged coups in places like Iran (didnt go very well) Iraq (Saddam wasnt a very good choice) Afghanistan (damn, seeing a pattern yet?) Chile (Thatchers friend) and on and on.

So the west learned to be efficient. Kudos to us. And this isnt masochism, its accepting that shitty people have existed for thousands of years and done shitty things. The christians are no worse or better than Muslims, Hindu, Aztec's, Pagans, atheists, Shinto or any others theyve just done it in a larger volume.

You on the other hand know nothing of the contributions of Muslims, are ignorant of basic facts regarding Islam and its followers and condemn Muslims for doing things plenty of others have done. Including your own ancestors. Then try to deflect it as best you can by pretending we're suddenly angels and trite reasoning to excuse the hypocricy of your argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it never Sikhs or Hindus?

Surely if we are all equal, they'd make up an equal number of terorrists, right?

*liberal logic falls apart*

This is why so many neoliberals struggle to accept reality of Islam and it's implications. They would probably persecute a Muslim for saying anything critical based on their personal experience of their OWN culture!

They cannot reconcile an uncomfortable truth with their sweeping "equally" narrative.

Muslims have wiped out and killed many sophisticated civilisations and cultures..they don't acknowledge this or even seem to feel remorse!!

It's just glibly glossed over, ignored or explained away as a death of "kuffar"..

Islam is an ocean of needless spilled blood, persecution and suffering. Read a history book!!

Christianity, various pagan faiths and athesists all have a similar smount of blood on their hands.

Face it, the human capacity to inflict harm on obe another is unlimited. All it takes is a political, philosophical or religious group to aquire the manpower amd resourses to excecute their dorld view.

Islam especially seems to play to and inflame the worst aspects of human nature.. I take no relish in saying it, it's simply.. just true.

Christians have more blood in their hands than Muslims. They decimated 98% of the native populations on 3 continents.

The British have more blood on their hands than any country.

How does that fit in to your twisted narrative?

Pathetic and glib. How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Too funny. The Europeans documented their historical blemishes warts and all. Muslims do not. Looking at how they behave present day should give you an idea of what they did from the 6th century onwards.

Isn't it curious how very few documentations exists to gauge the extent of their genocidal murder sprees . Their slave trade in Africa some estimate (conservatively) killed over 80 million black African "kuffar"in transit alone over a 1400 year period.

Do you think people just laid down and welcomed Muslims in to pillage exploit and destroy their societies?

Save the glib neoliberal masochism . It's nauseating and played out.

One set of historical blemishes do not excuse or negate another. Western civilisations may have made mistakes but they have also accepted their mistakes and have largely chosen to learn from them rather than repeat them.

Your? type of deflective what-outery.. is a glib empty sanctimonious tosh.

So your issue is one of documentation? The west documented the annhilation of hundreds of millions so thats ok. But you havent seen enough documentation for the Muslims who conquered and engaged in slavery so thats not ok?

And if the west has learned anything its that installing proxy leaders is cheaper and less work than properly conquering them. Thats why the west staged coups in places like Iran (didnt go very well) Iraq (Saddam wasnt a very good choice) Afghanistan (damn, seeing a pattern yet?) Chile (Thatchers friend) and on and on.

So the west learned to be efficient. Kudos to us. And this isnt masochism, its accepting that shitty people have existed for thousands of years and done shitty things. The christians are no worse or better than Muslims, Hindu, Aztec's, Pagans, atheists, Shinto or any others theyve just done it in a larger volume.

You on the other hand know nothing of the contributions of Muslims, are ignorant of basic facts regarding Islam and its followers and condemn Muslims for doing things plenty of others have done. Including your own ancestors. Then try to deflect it as best you can by pretending we're suddenly angels and trite reasoning to excuse the hypocricy of your argument."

This has descended into a script of neoliberal chest beating hubris on your part.

Every civilisation has to bear the burdens of blemishes throughout the course of its history, yes.. this does not grant others carte blanche to do unspeakable things with immunity. This is where you become a lurid apologist and complicit in inhumanity you claim to oppose.

Yes, western civilisation is superior to Muslim civilisation. A CULTure based on fanatical sycophantic worship of a rebranded moon god transplanted into an abrahamic narrative by a malignant mediaeval bigamist paedophile .. Muhammad ..

In fact not just western, any other civilisation bar that one. Tired of reading accounts of aid workers treating 6 year old girls who've been sold by their pious Muslim family to disgusting old men that sexually abuse them so badly they nearly die of internal bleeding (it's fine to do this in their eyes as Muhammad had child concubines to use for sexual gratification).

Done with this thread and done with your clichéd script.

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/muslim-community-worker-warned-officers-about-manchester-bomber-five-years-ago-6659964/

So Muslims had alerted authorities to the Manchester bombrr 5 years ago.

Somehow I dont think we'll see certain people acknowledge this in the future when discussion of Muslims working to expose radical elements in their community. It doesnt fit with their bigoted, ignorant attitude.

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"http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/muslim-community-worker-warned-officers-about-manchester-bomber-five-years-ago-6659964/

So Muslims had alerted authorities to the Manchester bombrr 5 years ago.

Somehow I dont think we'll see certain people acknowledge this in the future when discussion of Muslims working to expose radical elements in their community. It doesnt fit with their bigoted, ignorant attitude."

How nice of them, shopping a criminal intent on committing mass murder. Do they want a good star?

The problem would not have existed if the underlying cause (the culture) had not existed. Chicken and the egg .

Reporting criminality is a basic civic duty.. you want a praise someone for doing what most would do regarding crime who do it without expectation of thanks or acknowledgement?

Please .

It's also beginning to emerge his father groomed him into the mindset through being an Al-Qaeda supporter.. his brother was also plotting to commit a similar atrocity.

We'll agree to disagree. I respect your right to express your opinion but on this we don't agree, vastly.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"

How nice of them, shopping a criminal intent on committing mass murder. Do they want a good star?

The problem would not have existed if the underlying cause (the culture) had not existed. Chicken and the egg .

Reporting criminality is a basic civic duty.. you want a praise someone for doing what most would do regarding crime who do it without expectation of thanks or acknowledgement?

Please .

It's also beginning to emerge his father groomed him into the mindset through being an Al-Qaeda supporter.. his brother was also plotting to commit a similar atrocity.

We'll agree to disagree. I respect your right to express your opinion but on this we don't agree, vastly."

What a pile of CRAP!

This whole country is full of cowardly fuckers who justify their cowardice with the the mantra of:

"I'm not a grass!"

But suddenly everyone has grown rock balls the size of the Empire State building!

Until your all willing to stand up and not only inform but give evidence in open court about any criminal act you know of you all need to SHUT THE FUCK UP and GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES!

Fact is like it or not we have no right to expect any part of our society to act differently to any other...

Every part of our society seems to think it is OK to protect criminals within its own community. Why should that rule not apply to Muslims?

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over a year ago


"

How nice of them, shopping a criminal intent on committing mass murder. Do they want a good star?

The problem would not have existed if the underlying cause (the culture) had not existed. Chicken and the egg .

Reporting criminality is a basic civic duty.. you want a praise someone for doing what most would do regarding crime who do it without expectation of thanks or acknowledgement?

Please .

It's also beginning to emerge his father groomed him into the mindset through being an Al-Qaeda supporter.. his brother was also plotting to commit a similar atrocity.

We'll agree to disagree. I respect your right to express your opinion but on this we don't agree, vastly.

What a pile of CRAP!

This whole country is full of cowardly fuckers who justify their cowardice with the the mantra of:

"I'm not a grass!"

But suddenly everyone has grown rock balls the size of the Empire State building!

Until your all willing to stand up and not only inform but give evidence in open court about any criminal act you know of you all need to SHUT THE FUCK UP and GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES!

Fact is like it or not we have no right to expect any part of our society to act differently to any other...

Every part of our society seems to think it is OK to protect criminals within its own community. Why should that rule not apply to Muslims? "

Another generalization that degrades the majority to elevate and excuse a minority .

Many people do call crime stoppers and follow through with evidence in a court setting. Ridiculously flippant statement .

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/muslim-community-worker-warned-officers-about-manchester-bomber-five-years-ago-6659964/

So Muslims had alerted authorities to the Manchester bombrr 5 years ago.

Somehow I dont think we'll see certain people acknowledge this in the future when discussion of Muslims working to expose radical elements in their community. It doesnt fit with their bigoted, ignorant attitude.

How nice of them, shopping a criminal intent on committing mass murder. Do they want a good star?

The problem would not have existed if the underlying cause (the culture) had not existed. Chicken and the egg .

Reporting criminality is a basic civic duty.. you want a praise someone for doing what most would do regarding crime who do it without expectation of thanks or acknowledgement?

Please .

It's also beginning to emerge his father groomed him into the mindset through being an Al-Qaeda supporter.. his brother was also plotting to commit a similar atrocity.

We'll agree to disagree. I respect your right to express your opinion but on this we don't agree, vastly."

We've seen a lot of bigotry, including from you, dressed up as legitimate criticism of muslims in the last few days including people saying Muslims werent identifying potential threats to police. Every one of those baseless accusations has been proven wrong when we look at the facts. This is just the latest.

Nowhere did I say it deserved praise. I said it proved those people wrong. But you didnt address that point, you fabricated some other point for moral outrage about civic duty.

I dont respect your opinion because its based on blind hatred and flies in the face of fact and evidence.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Another generalization that degrades the majority to elevate and excuse a minority .

Many people do call crime stoppers and follow through with evidence in a court setting. Ridiculously flippant statement ."

Ah my generalisation...

Unlike you many...

I notice you don't say the majority or even most when asked...

So how many in many? Or are you 'not a grass' and going to refuse to say?

By the way I have not excused anyone! And not only have I always called the police when I have witnessed a crime, I have given evidence in court and faced down intimidation when 'friends' of criminals have threatened me after hearing my evidence in magistrates committal proceedings when other witnesses suddenly lost their memory!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/muslim-community-worker-warned-officers-about-manchester-bomber-five-years-ago-6659964/

So Muslims had alerted authorities to the Manchester bombrr 5 years ago.

Somehow I dont think we'll see certain people acknowledge this in the future when discussion of Muslims working to expose radical elements in their community. It doesnt fit with their bigoted, ignorant attitude.

How nice of them, shopping a criminal intent on committing mass murder. Do they want a good star?

The problem would not have existed if the underlying cause (the culture) had not existed. Chicken and the egg .

Reporting criminality is a basic civic duty.. you want a praise someone for doing what most would do regarding crime who do it without expectation of thanks or acknowledgement?

Please .

It's also beginning to emerge his father groomed him into the mindset through being an Al-Qaeda supporter.. his brother was also plotting to commit a similar atrocity.

We'll agree to disagree. I respect your right to express your opinion but on this we don't agree, vastly.

We've seen a lot of bigotry, including from you, dressed up as legitimate criticism of muslims in the last few days including people saying Muslims werent identifying potential threats to police. Every one of those baseless accusations has been proven wrong when we look at the facts. This is just the latest.

Nowhere did I say it deserved praise. I said it proved those people wrong. But you didnt address that point, you fabricated some other point for moral outrage about civic duty.

I dont respect your opinion because its based on blind hatred and flies in the face of fact and evidence."

This is where we differ.. I can tolerate the sanctimonious vacuous drivel of neoliberals like you.. the well trodden script of clichés.. the weaponry of cynically used and invoked epithets of bigotry designed to silence and shut down an inconvenient uncomfortable reality .

Everything I've said is based on documented history and reality as it is, not a fantasy world you sadly inhabit.

Your validation is not sought or wanted. Such an ego.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"

How is skin colour semantics?

ever noticed that "brown" people are terrorists...... but white people have "mental issues"....."

Really?

Continuity Irish Republican Army

Cumann na mBan

Fianna Éireann

Irish National Liberation Army

Irish People's Liberation Organisation

Irish Republican Army

Saor Éire

Ulster Defence Association/Ulster Freedom Fighters

Ulster Volunteer Force

Loyalist Volunteer Force

Orange Volunteers

Red Hand Commandos

Red Hand Defenders

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/muslim-community-worker-warned-officers-about-manchester-bomber-five-years-ago-6659964/

So Muslims had alerted authorities to the Manchester bombrr 5 years ago.

Somehow I dont think we'll see certain people acknowledge this in the future when discussion of Muslims working to expose radical elements in their community. It doesnt fit with their bigoted, ignorant attitude.

How nice of them, shopping a criminal intent on committing mass murder. Do they want a good star?

The problem would not have existed if the underlying cause (the culture) had not existed. Chicken and the egg .

Reporting criminality is a basic civic duty.. you want a praise someone for doing what most would do regarding crime who do it without expectation of thanks or acknowledgement?

Please .

It's also beginning to emerge his father groomed him into the mindset through being an Al-Qaeda supporter.. his brother was also plotting to commit a similar atrocity.

We'll agree to disagree. I respect your right to express your opinion but on this we don't agree, vastly.

We've seen a lot of bigotry, including from you, dressed up as legitimate criticism of muslims in the last few days including people saying Muslims werent identifying potential threats to police. Every one of those baseless accusations has been proven wrong when we look at the facts. This is just the latest.

Nowhere did I say it deserved praise. I said it proved those people wrong. But you didnt address that point, you fabricated some other point for moral outrage about civic duty.

I dont respect your opinion because its based on blind hatred and flies in the face of fact and evidence.

This is where we differ.. I can tolerate the sanctimonious vacuous drivel of neoliberals like you.. the well trodden script of clichés.. the weaponry of cynically used and invoked epithets of bigotry designed to silence and shut down an inconvenient uncomfortable reality .

Everything I've said is based on documented history and reality as it is, not a fantasy world you sadly inhabit.

Your validation is not sought or wanted. Such an ego.

"

What documented history? That most people in power were involved in slavery for hundreds of years? That most powerful countries conquered others? That both christianity and islam both forefully spread their religion?

That only 2% of terrorist attacks in Europe are committed by Muslims?

That the majority of muslims in the world live peacefully and just want to get on with their own lives?

That muslims have contributed hugely to medical knowledge, the arts, math, science, social sciences and inventions that are now ubiquitous in our lives?

Because they're all facts and the fly directly in the face of your opinions.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?"

Deluded sanctimonious virtue signalling hand wringers

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?"

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

Deluded sanctimonious virtue signalling hand wringers"
. ..spot on.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ? "

They don't. It's an assumption that the poster made.

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?"

Ethno nationalist and seperatist terrorism in the UK, Spain and France. PKK in Eastern Europe and others.

Left wing terrorists such as FAI in Italy, OPLD in Greece, IRF, Revolutionary Cells Networks, DHKP, TKP among others.

Right wing terrorists like Omada Epsilon, Blood and Honour, Old School Society, Pegida, Identity Generation and others.

And there is always single issue terrorism such as the attack which killed Jo Cox.

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ?

They don't. It's an assumption that the poster made. "

We should have an award for people like you who can actually read comments and still retain that information when they hit reply. Most on here seemingly cant.

I didnt mention IRA or ETA and these figures come straight from Interpol.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Fuck me how many deaths r they all responsible for then how many children AV they killed and who is the god they r killing for ?

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

Ethno nationalist and seperatist terrorism in the UK, Spain and France. PKK in Eastern Europe and others.

Left wing terrorists such as FAI in Italy, OPLD in Greece, IRF, Revolutionary Cells Networks, DHKP, TKP among others.

Right wing terrorists like Omada Epsilon, Blood and Honour, Old School Society, Pegida, Identity Generation and others.

And there is always single issue terrorism such as the attack which killed Jo Cox."

Great list !

But out of all those you have to separate the PKK ! Kurdistan is not part of Europe is it ?

Then take out Jo Cox (political assassination by a lone person) !

What are you left with ?

How many attacks , dead and wounded?

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ?

They don't. It's an assumption that the poster made.

We should have an award for people like you who can actually read comments and still retain that information when they hit reply. Most on here seemingly cant.

I didnt mention IRA or ETA and these figures come straight from Interpol."

From which century ?

What is the time frame for the stats ?

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ?

They don't. It's an assumption that the poster made.

We should have an award for people like you who can actually read comments and still retain that information when they hit reply. Most on here seemingly cant.

I didnt mention IRA or ETA and these figures come straight from Interpol."

Can you name one attack in germany, france or the uk that wasnt muslim/IS/islam related in the last say ten years? To say its only two percent is pretty hard to believe, and I mean proper terrorist not some french farmer chucking some cow shit about the place

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"Fuck me how many deaths r they all responsible for then how many children AV they killed and who is the god they r killing for ? "

Most would call themselves christian or atheist. A lot of the terrorism is political not religious and because its localised it doesnt seem as relevant to us so doesnt get the same coverage. Theres a lot of anti islamic groups too and a handful of attempted false flags to frame muslims but they were easily exposed.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ?

They don't. It's an assumption that the poster made.

We should have an award for people like you who can actually read comments and still retain that information when they hit reply. Most on here seemingly cant.

I didnt mention IRA or ETA and these figures come straight from Interpol.

Can you name one attack in germany, france or the uk that wasnt muslim/IS/islam related in the last say ten years? To say its only two percent is pretty hard to believe, and I mean proper terrorist not some french farmer chucking some cow shit about the place"

The bus bomb recently.

-Matt

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Bus bomb killed how many ?

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin

I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"If only 2% of attacks in Europe r from Muslims apart from Eta IRA who else is attacking Europeans then ?

mmm..... how conveniently old do those stats have to be to include ETA and IRA ?

When was the last time any of these former groups made any attacks ?

Isnt that another curious question ?

They don't. It's an assumption that the poster made.

We should have an award for people like you who can actually read comments and still retain that information when they hit reply. Most on here seemingly cant.

I didnt mention IRA or ETA and these figures come straight from Interpol.

Can you name one attack in germany, france or the uk that wasnt muslim/IS/islam related in the last say ten years? To say its only two percent is pretty hard to believe, and I mean proper terrorist not some french farmer chucking some cow shit about the place

The bus bomb recently.

-Matt"

Great ! 1 example !

How many dead & wounded ?

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Bus bomb killed how many ? "

None. How many did the machete weilder on the THV kill. None. What is your point? Do you know the point of terrorism? The hint is in the name. That is why you don't seem to be as concerned with the far greater number of road casualties. Because those deaths are not in an attempt to evoke terror.

-Matt

-Matt

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups."

Ignoring the greek ones as I didnt name then so we have 7 in france, now even if we allow in the greek ones that is say ten,now lets double that so 20 non muslim attacks,off the top of my head I can count around 10 muslim ones ( prob many more but ones that come to mind in the three countries I listed)to get to 2% muslim attacks we would need 500 non muslim ones, again that is one hell of a lot of attacks.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups.

Ignoring the greek ones as I didnt name then so we have 7 in france, now even if we allow in the greek ones that is say ten,now lets double that so 20 non muslim attacks,off the top of my head I can count around 10 muslim ones ( prob many more but ones that come to mind in the three countries I listed)to get to 2% muslim attacks we would need 500 non muslim ones, again that is one hell of a lot of attacks. "

Im sorry, you said name 1 in ten years and I named several from the most recent year we have data. Question asked. Question answered. Do you honestly expect me to name every single terrorist attack in here??

The 2% figure is interpols own which you can read here: http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/15/the-number-of-terrorists-who-are-actually-religiously-motivated-will-surprise-you-5023616/

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups.

Ignoring the greek ones as I didnt name then so we have 7 in france, now even if we allow in the greek ones that is say ten,now lets double that so 20 non muslim attacks,off the top of my head I can count around 10 muslim ones ( prob many more but ones that come to mind in the three countries I listed)to get to 2% muslim attacks we would need 500 non muslim ones, again that is one hell of a lot of attacks.

Im sorry, you said name 1 in ten years and I named several from the most recent year we have data. Question asked. Question answered. Do you honestly expect me to name every single terrorist attack in here??

The 2% figure is interpols own which you can read here: http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/15/the-number-of-terrorists-who-are-actually-religiously-motivated-will-surprise-you-5023616/"

I thought you questioned things put out by "official" sources and werent one of the gullible ones that believe everything they are told. Do you really believe that only 2% of attacks are muslim based, I find that extremely hard to believe,unless of course we arent getting told the truth on other attacks

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups.

Ignoring the greek ones as I didnt name then so we have 7 in france, now even if we allow in the greek ones that is say ten,now lets double that so 20 non muslim attacks,off the top of my head I can count around 10 muslim ones ( prob many more but ones that come to mind in the three countries I listed)to get to 2% muslim attacks we would need 500 non muslim ones, again that is one hell of a lot of attacks.

Im sorry, you said name 1 in ten years and I named several from the most recent year we have data. Question asked. Question answered. Do you honestly expect me to name every single terrorist attack in here??

The 2% figure is interpols own which you can read here: http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/15/the-number-of-terrorists-who-are-actually-religiously-motivated-will-surprise-you-5023616/"

Wow ! Metro... great source !

Did you miss : "Estimates suggest only around two per cent of all terrorist attacks were committed by Islamic groups or individuals."

ESTIMATES SUGGEST ....!

Now... if it said Study CONCLUDED , it would be a bit.... more credible !

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By *xplicitlyrics OP   Man
over a year ago

south dublin


"I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups.

Ignoring the greek ones as I didnt name then so we have 7 in france, now even if we allow in the greek ones that is say ten,now lets double that so 20 non muslim attacks,off the top of my head I can count around 10 muslim ones ( prob many more but ones that come to mind in the three countries I listed)to get to 2% muslim attacks we would need 500 non muslim ones, again that is one hell of a lot of attacks.

Im sorry, you said name 1 in ten years and I named several from the most recent year we have data. Question asked. Question answered. Do you honestly expect me to name every single terrorist attack in here??

The 2% figure is interpols own which you can read here: http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/15/the-number-of-terrorists-who-are-actually-religiously-motivated-will-surprise-you-5023616/

I thought you questioned things put out by "official" sources and werent one of the gullible ones that believe everything they are told. Do you really believe that only 2% of attacks are muslim based, I find that extremely hard to believe,unless of course we arent getting told the truth on other attacks "

Are you saying that Interpol are lying?

Are you saying that those other terrorist attacks didnt happen? Or that those other terrorist groups dont exist?

But lets ask a different question. Why do you find it so hard to believe? Is it because the media you use only focuses on Islamic terrorism and doesnt report on the rest? Or do you believe that there are no terrorist groups apart from Muslims despite the fact its in our lifetimes major british terrorist groups operated in britain?

If all youre being told is that Muslim terrorism is happening and nothing else then of course you'll find it hard to believe. But facts are facts. If you think your assumptions trump the facts then you need to consider if youre making rational decisions on these things. Facts shape our opinions, not the other way round.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"I thinm Ill change my username to google

The stats are from Interpols 2015 report, I havent seen 2016 and dont think its been released yet.

In 2015 there was an IED in a mosque in France. Gun attacks at 6 others. An IED at a restaurant in Greece, arrests stopped further planned attacks on the tax office and several court buildings. All from right wing anti Islam terrorist groups.

Ignoring the greek ones as I didnt name then so we have 7 in france, now even if we allow in the greek ones that is say ten,now lets double that so 20 non muslim attacks,off the top of my head I can count around 10 muslim ones ( prob many more but ones that come to mind in the three countries I listed)to get to 2% muslim attacks we would need 500 non muslim ones, again that is one hell of a lot of attacks.

Im sorry, you said name 1 in ten years and I named several from the most recent year we have data. Question asked. Question answered. Do you honestly expect me to name every single terrorist attack in here??

The 2% figure is interpols own which you can read here: http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/15/the-number-of-terrorists-who-are-actually-religiously-motivated-will-surprise-you-5023616/

I thought you questioned things put out by "official" sources and werent one of the gullible ones that believe everything they are told. Do you really believe that only 2% of attacks are muslim based, I find that extremely hard to believe,unless of course we arent getting told the truth on other attacks

Are you saying that Interpol are lying?

Are you saying that those other terrorist attacks didnt happen? Or that those other terrorist groups dont exist?

But lets ask a different question. Why do you find it so hard to believe? Is it because the media you use only focuses on Islamic terrorism and doesnt report on the rest? Or do you believe that there are no terrorist groups apart from Muslims despite the fact its in our lifetimes major british terrorist groups operated in britain?

If all youre being told is that Muslim terrorism is happening and nothing else then of course you'll find it hard to believe. But facts are facts. If you think your assumptions trump the facts then you need to consider if youre making rational decisions on these things. Facts shape our opinions, not the other way round."

mm..... I´m curious !

You keep mentioning Interpol , but the link you posted cites EUROPOL !

Could that explain the discrepancy ?

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

Is there a world religion that hasn't has wars/terrorism/religious violence fought in its name?

I can't think of one.

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Is there a world religion that hasn't has wars/terrorism/religious violence fought in its name?

I can't think of one. "

No ! But there is only one that is based on the premise that you submit , convert , or die !

Guess which ?

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over a year ago


"Is there a world religion that hasn't has wars/terrorism/religious violence fought in its name?

I can't think of one.

No ! But there is only one that is based on the premise that you submit , convert , or die !

Guess which ? "
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Is there a world religion that hasn't has wars/terrorism/religious violence fought in its name?

I can't think of one.

No ! But there is only one that is based on the premise that you submit , convert , or die !

Guess which ? "

Christianity?

Deuteronomy 17

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

-Matt

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over a year ago


"Is there a world religion that hasn't has wars/terrorism/religious violence fought in its name?

I can't think of one.

No ! But there is only one that is based on the premise that you submit , convert , or die !

Guess which ?

Christianity?

Deuteronomy 17

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

-Matt"
....wow..thank god we don't stone people in this day and age.....oh wait there......they do.

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over a year ago

And in 'tolerant' Indonesia they are publicly flogging gays again now. How long before that comes to the UK?

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Is there a world religion that hasn't has wars/terrorism/religious violence fought in its name?

I can't think of one.

No ! But there is only one that is based on the premise that you submit , convert , or die !

Guess which ?

Christianity?

Deuteronomy 17

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

-Matt....wow..thank god we don't stone people in this day and age.....oh wait there......they do."

Yes.... and besides Deuteronomy, is a book of the old testament .... here I was thinking Christianism was about the New Testament !

In fact .. remember this :

" “The Gospel According to John”, chapter 8, verses 3–7

³And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

So Christ-Christianism, revoked that one I guess !

Yup ! As I said .... only one religion does that .... the "religion of peace "

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By *onyxptMan
over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"And in 'tolerant' Indonesia they are publicly flogging gays again now. How long before that comes to the UK?"

mmm.... as soon as sharia "law" is tolerated !

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