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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows

spelt natsy wrong

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"spelt natsy wrong"

Ooo that's harsh.. , can't accuse them of that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This made me lol.Mel brooks would approve.

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows

well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf"

Yep.. Our glorious leader needs her fist.. Err i mean hand strengthened for the war.. Oops i mean brexit negotiations

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf"

Corbyn just doesn't appear on Labour leaflets at all. The Newcastle under Lyme Labour MP had Corbyn and any mention of him airbrushed out of his campaign leaflets in the area. He knows that Corbyn is toxic and will cost him votes thats why he had him removed from the leaflets.

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf

Corbyn just doesn't appear on Labour leaflets at all. The Newcastle under Lyme Labour MP had Corbyn and any mention of him airbrushed out of his campaign leaflets in the area. He knows that Corbyn is toxic and will cost him votes thats why he had him removed from the leaflets. "

im sorry you lost me on when you voted ukip and they have total nut jobs as leaders

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party" "

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty".

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". "

Oh.. How about going on about corbyn being a scruffy commie?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". "

The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". "

Lots of daft immature.. Mud slinging from all sides.. Bit lime a re run of the American election

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty".

Oh.. How about going on about corbyn being a scruffy commie? "

He and John McDonnell have admitted they are marxists.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty".

Oh.. How about going on about corbyn being a scruffy commie?

He and John McDonnell have admitted they are marxists."

And scruffy?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age."

Socrates predicted it.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty".

Oh.. How about going on about corbyn being a scruffy commie?

He and John McDonnell have admitted they are marxists.

And scruffy? "

What words would you use to describe his outfits?

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". "

well the national debt is rising even more with tbe natsy party in charge.

they just sell off national assets to their buddies and donors at a massive cost to the country.

u had a chancellor who had a gsce in maths ffs.

yeah ok corbyn hasnt got the massive right wing propaganda machine working like may has. yeah he doesnt do scripted and controlled interviews,ok he tends with his veg patch rather than rubbing his hands and laughing to god like may does when people use food banks.

ok its a bit nicey nicey doesnt have buffoon comments from bojo the clown.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". well the national debt is rising even more with tbe natsy party in charge.

they just sell off national assets to their buddies and donors at a massive cost to the country.

u had a chancellor who had a gsce in maths ffs.

yeah ok corbyn hasnt got the massive right wing propaganda machine working like may has. yeah he doesnt do scripted and controlled interviews,ok he tends with his veg patch rather than rubbing his hands and laughing to god like may does when people use food banks.

ok its a bit nicey nicey doesnt have buffoon comments from bojo the clown.

"

True.. and If and when anything goes tits up, its the worst off in society that shoulders the financial fall out. Remember the 'we're all in this together' bollocks? The tory idea of hardship is nothing like the suffering of the vulnerable in society.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". well the national debt is rising even more with tbe natsy party in charge.

"

Yes that's the funny thing about debts, they rise when you don't pay them off. It's called interest and we spend more on it than the ministry of defence costs each year, how did that happen?


"

they just sell off national assets to their buddies and donors at a massive cost to the country.

u had a chancellor who had a gsce in maths ffs.

yeah ok corbyn hasnt got the massive right wing propaganda machine working like may has. yeah he doesnt do scripted and controlled interviews,ok he tends with his veg patch rather than rubbing his hands and laughing to god like may does when people use food banks.

ok its a bit nicey nicey doesnt have buffoon comments from bojo the clown.

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". well the national debt is rising even more with tbe natsy party in charge.

they just sell off national assets to their buddies and donors at a massive cost to the country.

u had a chancellor who had a gsce in maths ffs.

yeah ok corbyn hasnt got the massive right wing propaganda machine working like may has. yeah he doesnt do scripted and controlled interviews,ok he tends with his veg patch rather than rubbing his hands and laughing to god like may does when people use food banks.

ok its a bit nicey nicey doesnt have buffoon comments from bojo the clown.

"

True.. and If and when anything goes tits up, its the worst off in society that shoulders the financial fall out. Remember the 'we're all in this together' bollocks? The tory idea of hardship is nothing like the suffering of the vulnerable in society.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". "

Btw, have you looked up the r a p e clause the tories introduced?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. "

Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty"

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance. "

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner? "

Have you heard the one about the government selling weapons to a country than bans women from driving, beheads gays lesbians etc.. In the street and bombs one of the most impoverished countries in the world?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner?

Have you heard the one about the government selling weapons to a country than bans women from driving, beheads gays lesbians etc.. In the street and bombs one of the most impoverished countries in the world? "

So that's a no then. Try actually talking to people on forums instead of bleating ideology - you might learn something. I've learnt stuff from the sensible lefties on here, although they are few and far between.

Ps: yes i know al-yamamah and salam very well, probably better than you do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner?

Have you heard the one about the government selling weapons to a country than bans women from driving, beheads gays lesbians etc.. In the street and bombs one of the most impoverished countries in the world?

So that's a no then. Try actually talking to people on forums instead of bleating ideology - you might learn something. I've learnt stuff from the sensible lefties on here, although they are few and far between.

Ps: yes i know al-yamamah and salam very well, probably better than you do. "

Bully for you

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner?

Have you heard the one about the government selling weapons to a country than bans women from driving, beheads gays lesbians etc.. In the street and bombs one of the most impoverished countries in the world?

So that's a no then. Try actually talking to people on forums instead of bleating ideology - you might learn something. I've learnt stuff from the sensible lefties on here, although they are few and far between.

Ps: yes i know al-yamamah and salam very well, probably better than you do. "

I take it your not too concerned over that then

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner?

Have you heard the one about the government selling weapons to a country than bans women from driving, beheads gays lesbians etc.. In the street and bombs one of the most impoverished countries in the world?

So that's a no then. Try actually talking to people on forums instead of bleating ideology - you might learn something. I've learnt stuff from the sensible lefties on here, although they are few and far between.

Ps: yes i know al-yamamah and salam very well, probably better than you do.

I take it your not too concerned over that then "

If you'd like to start another thread on it then i'd happy comment and discuss it rationally with you? But you have to look at it in the context of unfucking the middle east.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf

Corbyn just doesn't appear on Labour leaflets at all. The Newcastle under Lyme Labour MP had Corbyn and any mention of him airbrushed out of his campaign leaflets in the area. He knows that Corbyn is toxic and will cost him votes thats why he had him removed from the leaflets. im sorry you lost me on when you voted ukip and they have total nut jobs as leaders"

I voted Ukip for years to get us out of the EU. The job is partly done and we are now in the process of leaving the EU. Nigel Farage was a great leader for ukip and helped to achieve Brexit under his leadership. However now the Brexit job needs finishing and I think Theresa May is the best person for the job. I'll be voting Conservative at this general election. I wouldn't trust Corbyn to run a corner shop never mind a country.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So yes broken brilliance.. They are nasty

Have you ever read socrates anaology of the doctor and the sweet shop owner?

Have you heard the one about the government selling weapons to a country than bans women from driving, beheads gays lesbians etc.. In the street and bombs one of the most impoverished countries in the world?

So that's a no then. Try actually talking to people on forums instead of bleating ideology - you might learn something. I've learnt stuff from the sensible lefties on here, although they are few and far between.

Ps: yes i know al-yamamah and salam very well, probably better than you do.

I take it your not too concerned over that then

If you'd like to start another thread on it then i'd happy comment and discuss it rationally with you? But you have to look at it in the context of unfucking the middle east. "

Hey.. I sm only enlightening you on examples of why the tories may be referred to as being 'the nasty' party.

As for me starting other threads or posting on someone elses, i look forward to your input and replies

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf

Corbyn just doesn't appear on Labour leaflets at all. The Newcastle under Lyme Labour MP had Corbyn and any mention of him airbrushed out of his campaign leaflets in the area. He knows that Corbyn is toxic and will cost him votes thats why he had him removed from the leaflets. im sorry you lost me on when you voted ukip and they have total nut jobs as leaders

I voted Ukip for years to get us out of the EU. The job is partly done and we are now in the process of leaving the EU. Nigel Farage was a great leader for ukip and helped to achieve Brexit under his leadership. However now the Brexit job needs finishing and I think Theresa May is the best person for the job. I'll be voting Conservative at this general election. I wouldn't trust Corbyn to run a corner shop never mind a country. "

Well that seems whats happening with forecasts of voters migrating to the tories.. I haven't made up my mind who i am voting for

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By *wingtolifeCouple
over a year ago

who knows


"well they always seem to label corbyn as marxist, communist bla bla bla

its no coincidence strong and stable comes out of mein kampf

Corbyn just doesn't appear on Labour leaflets at all. The Newcastle under Lyme Labour MP had Corbyn and any mention of him airbrushed out of his campaign leaflets in the area. He knows that Corbyn is toxic and will cost him votes thats why he had him removed from the leaflets. im sorry you lost me on when you voted ukip and they have total nut jobs as leaders

I voted Ukip for years to get us out of the EU. The job is partly done and we are now in the process of leaving the EU. Nigel Farage was a great leader for ukip and helped to achieve Brexit under his leadership. However now the Brexit job needs finishing and I think Theresa May is the best person for the job. I'll be voting Conservative at this general election. I wouldn't trust Corbyn to run a corner shop never mind a country. "

but you'd trust a flip flopper like May who is a remainer lol.

im sure she will have script editors to help her all the way. but doubt it. the end of May is June

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. "

He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't qualified to vote .

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't qualified to vote ."

Most classical or enlightenment thinkers didn't advocate that voting should be a birth right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote ."

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street. "

At least on the basis that Dave wanted a no vote and didn't get one, then i'd say it wasn't a wise move. Although it will kill UKIP and most those voters will return to conservatives so it was wise for his party.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street. "

I take it you voted to remain

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

I take it you voted to remain"

Nope, after long deliberation, talking with family, friends {yes i have friends lol} and work colleagues i voted to leave.

I made my decision and stick by it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

I take it you voted to remain

Nope, after long deliberation, talking with family, friends {yes i have friends lol} and work colleagues i voted to leave.

I made my decision and stick by it

"

Good, then you made the right decision

Usually though it's remainers saying the issues were too complex for the ordinary man to understand. (But only because they lost)

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street. "

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots."

Exactly

Its the typical you are only clever enough to vote if you agree with my position.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots."

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt"

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose"

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose""

Oh god, now I have a carticuacture in my mind of alien with leopard print heels on and predator with a cap on its head.

-Matt

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose"

Oh god, now I have a carticuacture in my mind of alien with leopard print heels on and predator with a cap on its head.

-Matt"

Wonder if Vogue would do a piece on it..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt"

All of the above..

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose"

Oh god, now I have a carticuacture in my mind of alien with leopard print heels on and predator with a cap on its head.

-Matt

Wonder if Vogue would do a piece on it..

"

Not 'big' Vogue. But have you seen some of the reporting and editorial Teen Vogue has been publishing in the last year? Quite something that they seem to be one of the most probing and investigative sources.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

At least on the basis that Dave wanted a no vote and didn't get one, then i'd say it wasn't a wise move. Although it will kill UKIP and most those voters will return to conservatives so it was wise for his party. "

In a way i am satisfied he's gone.

Like some on here i wasn't a fan of the tories, predominantly due to Cameron, ids and osbourne.

Clever? Yes, smarter than me? Yes, but one main issue, and possibly due to my previous employment in the nhs, one that disgusted me was not making the severely disabled who needed a room to store medical equipment in, exempt from the 'spare room subsidy' the tories always go for the unemoloyed and a new low from them is the sanctions for the prettiest of reasons but going after the disabled turns my stomach.

Their replacements don't appear to be as bad but no change on policy, still who knows what the future holds

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose"

Oh god, now I have a carticuacture in my mind of alien with leopard print heels on and predator with a cap on its head.

-Matt

Wonder if Vogue would do a piece on it..

Not 'big' Vogue. But have you seen some of the reporting and editorial Teen Vogue has been publishing in the last year? Quite something that they seem to be one of the most probing and investigative sources.

-Matt"

No not familiar with their work in that area. Bit of a insight when a fashion magazine is noted for its investigative coverage..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose""

Well.. Err yes. I am wondering what the turn out will be.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"spelt natsy wrong"
the Nazi party is Labour wanting to control everything get it right at least

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance.

That's not my understanding of his views. He just didn't want unqualified people vote, among other things. He was no fan of democracy plato points this out.He was correct unfortunately 500 Athenians voted to decide his fate, he was sentenced to death by a narrow margin.On charges of corrupting the youth.He was right the people aren't oqualified to vote .

Was it wise for David Cameron to have a referendum albeit not a binding vote to leave the eu? Seeing as the complexity and implications seem too comprehensive for the average guy in the street.

You mean they think the average guy in the street is a simpleton, too thick to make a valued judgement, thinking they could bully them into submission with nothing more than scare tactics and rhetoric, that 40 years of blaming the EU for very many of our problems would be an irrelevance, that they are too thick to understand that the deal Cameron negotiated meant nothing, that voting remain was a 'done deal'?

They totally underestimated the electorate, and totally ran the campaign wrongly. In doing so, they proved only themselves to be the idiots.

It's not often I agree with you, but I think you have it spot on. The problem being is whilst they might be the idiots, we pay the price.

-Matt

Reminds me of the tagline to the film alien vrs predator - "whoever wins, we lose"

Oh god, now I have a carticuacture in my mind of alien with leopard print heels on and predator with a cap on its head.

-Matt

Wonder if Vogue would do a piece on it..

Not 'big' Vogue. But have you seen some of the reporting and editorial Teen Vogue has been publishing in the last year? Quite something that they seem to be one of the most probing and investigative sources.

-Matt

No not familiar with their work in that area. Bit of a insight when a fashion magazine is noted for its investigative coverage.."

Indeed. I've never picked up a copy as I'm neither a teen nor in vogue lol... but still they are pretty surprising, some very well written and surprisingly deep political stories from an unexpected source e.g.

https://www.ft.com/content/973bd14a-e228-11e6-9645-c9357a75844a

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty". The population loves emotive language.A short clear message is what they want.Labour should put out memes.Its appropriate for the age.

Socrates predicted it. Socrates was right about benign/benevolent dictatorships being the best form of governance. "

Spain did well under Franco. Then they joined the EU and look at them now.

(In hind site even Iraq looked better under Saddam and he wasn't what you might call benign. Libya has certainly gone down the pan since Ghadafi went....Syria? It was stable at least)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got a tory 'vote for us' leaflet stuck through the door... With the usual smarmy photos and rhetoric "don't be a mug, be a smarty, come and join the nasty party"

The reason the left is in such a dire and pathetic state is because their key messages on everything boil down to childish, emotive language like fairness, nasty, greedy and other such bullshit.

8 years since the financial crash and not a penny off the national debt - the country needs opposition that actually have solutions for complex problems rather than "vote for me because the other guy is nasty".

Oh.. How about going on about corbyn being a scruffy commie?

He and John McDonnell have admitted they are marxists.

And scruffy?

What words would you use to describe his outfits? "

Irrelevant. I could comment on May's crap shoes, but the media are just come out with daft irrelevant critisim

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