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By *iss_Samantha_Lovecock OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

after a brief fone discussion on the weeks news , my best friend asked who I'd be voting for .. it wasnt the one I'd normally vote for or the one he'd be voting for .. he became quite angry and a little abusive ..very nearly hung up on him ..might block his number for a few days if he's gonna get so angry.

has this happened to anyone else with close friends or family.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..

I could fall out with myself over politics so I try to steer clear

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

No but it's happened over monopoly. But then i tend not to associate with people who need to force their views on others.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

•+• Access Denied •+•

why would he do that? seems a bit weird to me.

ask if you wanna discuss something, don't ask if it'll piss you off or you can't handle the answer.

nobody would fall out with me over politics, unless they were a sexist dick or racist or something like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That wasn’t your best mate after all

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

As i don't generally associate with Tories, its never really been an issue

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By *ack688Man
over a year ago

abruzzo Italy (and UK)

I really struggle with my brothers politics and opinions/prejudices, it annoys the hell out of me, thankfully we rarely see each other.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"As i don't generally associate with Tories, its never really been an issue "

I find this works well too!

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By *anama99Man
over a year ago

Herts

If he’s a Tory then good that he outed himself so you can completely cut ties with him and move on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion +politics are generally best avoided as table topics!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Religion +politics are generally best avoided as table topics! "

Nah.

Fight fight fight fight fight!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sadly too many people have so-called mates/friends etc when they are not.

A real friend does not wind the other up or comes close to being abusive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Religion +politics are generally best avoided as table topics!

Nah.

Fight fight fight fight fight!"

I'm conflict averse

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

I refuse to discuss politics with anyone as some people in the past have got so wound up about it.

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford

The guillotine was invented as a less painful way of solving political disputes.

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By *atermelodyMan
over a year ago

MK

Fuck it if you support Tories you deserve everything coming to you.

I said what I said and this is a hill I'll die on. Come get it!

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By *oyRoy06Man
over a year ago

leighton buzzard

Unfortunately we've lost the art of friendly debate.

We seem unable now to be able to accept we may have differring opinions, and that's ok as long as we respect each others opinions and beliefs and be willing to agree to disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont go there tbh , everyone has their own point of view , so do l but tbh l don't listen to them or them to me ..l don't bother tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Religion +politics are generally best avoided as table topics!

Nah.

Fight fight fight fight fight!

I'm conflict averse "

Then just sit back and watch.

I love it.

Get me a big old spoon and I'll go.

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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest

I don't talk politics or religion with most people because it makes for an easier life.

Some people (especially in todays society- where they can freely stick to their own circle of beliefs) aren't tolerant of each others differences.

I think its great to have a range of friends with different ideas otherwise how can you challenge your own values/beliefs, I just say neutral if the discussion comes up and see it from both sides.

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By *avie65Man
over a year ago

In the west.

I try to avoid politics at all costs. All it does is lead to arguements, abuse and my blood pressure going through the roof.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't talk politics with many but I've got friends with a big range of views. I find it really odd that people would only hang out with those with the same opinions.

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"Religion +politics are generally best avoided as table topics! Just Remember to watch out and duck for the sherry trifle

Nah.

Fight fight fight fight fight!

I'm conflict averse

Then just sit back and watch.

I love it.

Get me a big old spoon and I'll go.

"

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

One of my friends is the polar opposite to me politically, we rarely discuss such things because we know we disagree with each other

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"I don't talk politics or religion with most people because it makes for an easier life.

Some people (especially in todays society- where they can freely stick to their own circle of beliefs) aren't tolerant of each others differences.

I think its great to have a range of friends with different ideas otherwise how can you challenge your own values/beliefs, I just say neutral if the discussion comes up and see it from both sides. "

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

leave politics to one side.. you will never agree

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By *ull English with teaMan
over a year ago

London

I’ve fallen out and stopped all communication with old friends who have over the years developed far right views, although that’s more to do with their views on race / religion than politics but it’s intertwined. Good riddance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, as I talk about race so much, I’d find it hard to be friends with people that don’t agree with much of my politics. I tend to have lots of friends that range from pretty left wing to very left wing which I recognise is a bubble but my friendships are with people I should feel safe with. I get enough exposure to people that don’t politically agree with me on the internet Anne amongst family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve fallen out and stopped all communication with old friends who have over the years developed far right views, although that’s more to do with their views on race / religion than politics but it’s intertwined. Good riddance. "

Yes, this for me too.

I'm always up for chatting about the important stuff... makes you see people in a different light I suppose and if it's something I feel strongly about then we are going to clash often and that's not what I want from a friendship.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast


"Fuck it if you support Tories you deserve everything coming to you.

I said what I said and this is a hill I'll die on. Come get it! "

Edgy.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

Anybody who asks me who I’m going to vote for would get my stock answer.

‘That’s between me and my conscience’.

I very rarely discuss politics seriously with anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As i don't generally associate with Tories, its never really been an issue "

This

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester


" after a brief fone discussion on the weeks news , my best friend asked who I'd be voting for .. it wasnt the one I'd normally vote for or the one he'd be voting for .. he became quite angry and a little abusive ..very nearly hung up on him ..might block his number for a few days if he's gonna get so angry.

has this happened to anyone else with close friends or family."
I never talk politics with anyone not interested they are all the same Labour Conservative Liberal they all look after themselves not the electorate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always have to avoid falling into the trap of talking politics with family. They don't make it easy though.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

No

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

On Holibobs

No and never would. We are competent in having a respectful debate with each other, without resorting to childish insults regarding each others views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op. Did you make up and still friends from a year ago. ?

*I anticipate your answer.

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

We never get deep and meaningful with friends or family. We keep politics between ourselves; Mr and I are on the same page so it’s a safe subject!

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


" after a brief fone discussion on the weeks news , my best friend asked who I'd be voting for .. it wasnt the one I'd normally vote for or the one he'd be voting for .. he became quite angry and a little abusive ..very nearly hung up on him ..might block his number for a few days if he's gonna get so angry.

has this happened to anyone else with close friends or family."

I definitely know what you mean .. I've stopped talking about what I know and my views do some people because you have to realise some people are just not ready to accept certain things that are happening in the world.. if you think that a political person in power can make a change you are dreaming and hugely mislead.. people appointed to be in power of countries (world leaders) don't make a difference they just deliver the message they are told by the people in charge.. the last president to be out of this circle of corruption was Trump.. created peace in the Middle East for the first time in years.. settled threats from Russia and North Korea.. not one bomb was dropped in 4 years he pulled all troops home ..never took a wage .. fucking legend.. but he didn't fit in the corrupt peado cult of the presidential manner.. the only two presidents who had the same views as him was JFK and Lincoln .. what happened to those two ??? They got murdered for fighting the evil corrupt system

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A guy died a few weeks ago when a disagreement was had about Welsh politics, one punch, stumbled and hit his head, and goodnight. Story goes that the guy who died was pushing it and goading him about it and the resulting death wasn’t the punch so much as the fall soon after. I think it’s still ongoing.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

one of the few things i try to avoid with those outside my circle

have an idiot at work believes just about everything the dailymail spoon feeds him .

latest rant was "those on benefits shouldnt get any help with energy bills as they are all lazy and dont deserve it"when it was pointed out by them that at least two of our colleagues are in receipt of in work benefits as they are single parents he didnt have the answer just deflected into " not you your different you know who i mean the doley scroungers " new lad then pipes up "i wasnt working for six months after company closed during covid applied for hundreds of jobs before i got this was i a scrounger " scuttled off no answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just avoid talking about the subject.

Regardless if I agreed with them, I respect their views and well I’d hope they’d respect mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Life is to short for that shite, when it comes to political views we all only listen with the intent to reply when really we should listen with the intent to understand, not necessarily agree but understand.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"one of the few things i try to avoid with those outside my circle

have an idiot at work believes just about everything the dailymail spoon feeds him .

latest rant was "those on benefits shouldnt get any help with energy bills as they are all lazy and dont deserve it"when it was pointed out by them that at least two of our colleagues are in receipt of in work benefits as they are single parents he didnt have the answer just deflected into " not you your different you know who i mean the doley scroungers " new lad then pipes up "i wasnt working for six months after company closed during covid applied for hundreds of jobs before i got this was i a scrounger " scuttled off no answer "

You should post that in the other thread on “benefits shouldn’t go up by inflation”.

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Oakhill


" after a brief fone discussion on the weeks news , my best friend asked who I'd be voting for .. it wasnt the one I'd normally vote for or the one he'd be voting for .. he became quite angry and a little abusive ..very nearly hung up on him ..might block his number for a few days if he's gonna get so angry.

has this happened to anyone else with close friends or family.

I definitely know what you mean .. I've stopped talking about what I know and my views do some people because you have to realise some people are just not ready to accept certain things that are happening in the world.. if you think that a political person in power can make a change you are dreaming and hugely mislead.. people appointed to be in power of countries (world leaders) don't make a difference they just deliver the message they are told by the people in charge.. the last president to be out of this circle of corruption was Trump.. created peace in the Middle East for the first time in years.. settled threats from Russia and North Korea.. not one bomb was dropped in 4 years he pulled all troops home ..never took a wage .. fucking legend.. but he didn't fit in the corrupt peado cult of the presidential manner.. the only two presidents who had the same views as him was JFK and Lincoln .. what happened to those two ??? They got murdered for fighting the evil corrupt system "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never talk about politics with your family or friends, it won’t end well

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"Never talk about politics with your family or friends, it won’t end well "

I don't talk to much of my family, but there's one exception. My half-brother and I are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. And we regularly phone each other to discuss what's happening in the world of politics. It can be very refreshing to hear a different viewpoint, and talk to someone that actually forms their own opinion.

So, our differing politics is the only thing that keeps us together.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"As i don't generally associate with Tories, its never really been an issue "

I have one Tory friend. He doesn't even bother arguing now. He knows this government is useless...and I am right. Of course, always have been

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Never talk about politics with your family or friends, it won’t end well

I don't talk to much of my family, but there's one exception. My half-brother and I are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. And we regularly phone each other to discuss what's happening in the world of politics. It can be very refreshing to hear a different viewpoint, and talk to someone that actually forms their own opinion.

So, our differing politics is the only thing that keeps us together."

Do you spend your time nit-picking his semantics, if he paused in the wrong place, used "or" instead of "and" etc etc?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Never talk about politics with your family or friends, it won’t end well "

I like to. My friends usually have interesting opinions. One or two of my family have moronic options, so I usually just avoid them all together.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach


"Do you spend your time nit-picking his semantics, if he paused in the wrong place, used "or" instead of "and" etc etc?"

No. All of our conversations are spoken, and the spoken word is too immediate to hold someone to language conventions.

I save my pedantry for the written word, when people really have no excuse for not prooof-reading before posting.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Never talk about politics with your family or friends, it won’t end well "

I'm happy to, as the range of ideas and opinions leads to interesting, intelligent discussion. It's the people who break down relationships, not the subject matter and I'm always happy to prioritise relationships, rather than having to 'win' any discussion. I can't always be right, nor know and understand everything about topics, so sandboxing myself into an isolated vacuum, stifles growth. Plus, getting to better unstained people I'm close to, is valuable.

I'd certainly question my judgement, if someone had highly morally dubious justifications for political beliefs but it's not occurred.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

As is often displayed on here, some people have lost (or perhaps never had?) the ability to debate. It’s ‘this is my view, if you don’t agree you are moronic’.

Odd behaviour. They can’t ‘agree to disagree’. on anything. We have a few like that in the local Tap room - miserable buggers that are best avoided.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Do you spend your time nit-picking his semantics, if he paused in the wrong place, used "or" instead of "and" etc etc?

No. All of our conversations are spoken, and the spoken word is too immediate to hold someone to language conventions.

I save my pedantry for the written word, when people really have no excuse for not prooof-reading before posting."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Religion +politics are generally best avoided as table topics! "

I've been asked for opinions regarding politics and never give an answer.. especially if they're a tory Muppet

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

I really don't talk about politics anywhere other than a keyboard, yes I know there are many names for that kind of person.

The reason being it can drive people apart and cause way too many arguments, so now I just keep quiet and pretend to ignore when friends family colleagues get into it.

Its really not worth falling out with people over those lot in parliament whatever party they are from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it strange that some of you don't make friends with people who's ideologies and views on things don't align with yours

I'm not saying your friends have to be yes people however there's a stark difference between Labour voters and Tory voters and I couldn't imagine having a friendship with a Tory voter in a million years.

Or maybe I am jaded because I rarely come across Torys in real life and when I do I can usually tell that they're not the kind of person I could build a friendship with

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By *rauntonbananaMan
over a year ago

Braunton

The left revealing their nastiness yet again. It works both ways you know, but wait, you’re always alway right and truly walk the moral high ground ????

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By *rauntonbananaMan
over a year ago

Braunton


"The left revealing their nastiness yet again. It works both ways you know, but wait, you’re always alway right and truly walk the moral high ground ????"

Just a further note… I have friends from both left and right wing persuasions, but they and my self are grown up and mature enough to accept our differences.. maybe some of you on here should take note

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


" after a brief fone discussion on the weeks news , my best friend asked who I'd be voting for .. it wasnt the one I'd normally vote for or the one he'd be voting for .. he became quite angry and a little abusive ..very nearly hung up on him ..might block his number for a few days if he's gonna get so angry.

has this happened to anyone else with close friends or family."

Getting to the point of being angry and abusive is obviously not good but as long as you listen to each other and put your view respectfully then having friends with opposing political views can be beneficial. In my opinion that's better than only having friends or listening to those that agree with you.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" after a brief fone discussion on the weeks news , my best friend asked who I'd be voting for .. it wasnt the one I'd normally vote for or the one he'd be voting for .. he became quite angry and a little abusive ..very nearly hung up on him ..might block his number for a few days if he's gonna get so angry.

has this happened to anyone else with close friends or family.

Getting to the point of being angry and abusive is obviously not good but as long as you listen to each other and put your view respectfully then having friends with opposing political views can be beneficial. In my opinion that's better than only having friends or listening to those that agree with you."

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

Politics is all about hatred fear and division and some person(s) opinion how to live your life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it strange that some of you don't make friends with people who's ideologies and views on things don't align with yours

I'm not saying your friends have to be yes people however there's a stark difference between Labour voters and Tory voters and I couldn't imagine having a friendship with a Tory voter in a million years.

Or maybe I am jaded because I rarely come across Torys in real life and when I do I can usually tell that they're not the kind of person I could build a friendship with "

14 million Tory voters in 2019. How do you avoid them all ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it strange that some of you don't make friends with people who's ideologies and views on things don't align with yours

I'm not saying your friends have to be yes people however there's a stark difference between Labour voters and Tory voters and I couldn't imagine having a friendship with a Tory voter in a million years.

Or maybe I am jaded because I rarely come across Torys in real life and when I do I can usually tell that they're not the kind of person I could build a friendship with

14 million Tory voters in 2019. How do you avoid them all ?"

I don't think I said anywhere in my post that I avoid them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it strange that some of you don't make friends with people who's ideologies and views on things don't align with yours

I'm not saying your friends have to be yes people however there's a stark difference between Labour voters and Tory voters and I couldn't imagine having a friendship with a Tory voter in a million years.

Or maybe I am jaded because I rarely come across Torys in real life and when I do I can usually tell that they're not the kind of person I could build a friendship with

14 million Tory voters in 2019. How do you avoid them all ?

I don't think I said anywhere in my post that I avoid them? "

You said you 'rarely come across them'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it strange that some of you don't make friends with people who's ideologies and views on things don't align with yours

I'm not saying your friends have to be yes people however there's a stark difference between Labour voters and Tory voters and I couldn't imagine having a friendship with a Tory voter in a million years.

Or maybe I am jaded because I rarely come across Torys in real life and when I do I can usually tell that they're not the kind of person I could build a friendship with

14 million Tory voters in 2019. How do you avoid them all ?

I don't think I said anywhere in my post that I avoid them?

You said you 'rarely come across them'."

Hey it's up to her who she sleeps and squirts over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get a thicker skin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it strange that some of you don't make friends with people who's ideologies and views on things don't align with yours

I'm not saying your friends have to be yes people however there's a stark difference between Labour voters and Tory voters and I couldn't imagine having a friendship with a Tory voter in a million years.

Or maybe I am jaded because I rarely come across Torys in real life and when I do I can usually tell that they're not the kind of person I could build a friendship with

14 million Tory voters in 2019. How do you avoid them all ?

I don't think I said anywhere in my post that I avoid them?

You said you 'rarely come across them'."

Yes that's doesn't mean I avoid them

Non of my friends are tory and as far as I'm aware non of their friends are tory

Aside from people I come into contact with at work I very rarely come into contact with them

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"The left revealing their nastiness yet again. It works both ways you know, but wait, you’re always alway right and truly walk the moral high ground ????

Just a further note… I have friends from both left and right wing persuasions, but they and my self are grown up and mature enough to accept our differences.. maybe some of you on here should take note "

This is excellent. Slagging off "the left", then saying you're mature and grown up enough to accept your diffences.

Which is it?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

I don't have any close friends who are tories.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

If only guy forks had been successful in his plot

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"As is often displayed on here, some people have lost (or perhaps never had?) the ability to debate. It’s ‘this is my view, if you don’t agree you are moronic’.

Odd behaviour. They can’t ‘agree to disagree’. on anything. We have a few like that in the local Tap room - miserable buggers that are best avoided. "
the footballification of politics " I follow this team and no matter how obviously crap they are i will be backing them ra ra ra " and if you dont your an idiot cos your team are crap even tho they are way out in front

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"The left revealing their nastiness yet again. It works both ways you know, but wait, you’re always alway right and truly walk the moral high ground ????"

Can you quote any of the 'nastiness' you allude to?

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich


"Do you spend your time nit-picking his semantics, if he paused in the wrong place, used "or" instead of "and" etc etc?

No. All of our conversations are spoken, and the spoken word is too immediate to hold someone to language conventions.

I save my pedantry for the written word, when people really have no excuse for not prooof-reading before posting."

Since when did 'proof' have three vowels?

Or are you going to wriggle out of this one with the irony card ?

Seriously, everyone makes the odd mistake, there's ample prooof of that (!), but it's easy to see some on here whose mangling of the English language and spelling /grammar is far from fantastic

Spelling and grammar : the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Politics rarely spoken about with family for all the reasons given by others. I find friends generally associate with politically like-minded people, but not exclusively. I've been a member of local sports clubs and associations over the years and there's a good mix of left and right and you just have to try to get on. But if I'm just down the pub, I guess it's true you congregate with similar.

With families I know, what seems fairly common is that people on the left of the political spectrum tend to be young and idealistic, while on the right they to be older and more pragmatic and more resistant to change. All this is good news for the Conservatives. The population as a whole is getting older, after all. What’s more, older people are more likely to vote than younger people and not only not have mortgages affected by rising interest rates, but have savings benefitting from them.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"As i don't generally associate with Tories, its never really been an issue "

Years ago I had a girlfriend who stated that she would talk with anybody except tories.

Over the years I slowly understood where she was coming from and recently I understand even more.

Back then, I was still suffering from a tory upbringing but, sensibly, kept it under wraps while becoming more worldly. The wraps became discarded when there was nothing more to cover up.

My spell checker flags up that I don't capitalise tories but neither do I with gods.

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over a year ago


"As is often displayed on here, some people have lost (or perhaps never had?) the ability to debate. It’s ‘this is my view, if you don’t agree you are moronic’.

Odd behaviour. They can’t ‘agree to disagree’. on anything. We have a few like that in the local Tap room - miserable buggers that are best avoided. "

Yeah its shocking that you can't be racist in this day and age without agreeing to disagree.

Now here comes the mock outrage...

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