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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

You called it

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Extreme lol

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

What would be your criteria for deciding?

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

My son is disabled (blind amongst other issues), unable to work, should he be sterilised?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Given the title of this message, are you saying that people in debt should not be allowed on benefit?

Or that people on benefits can't have kids?

Or that those those in debt can't have kids?

Or all of the above?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

absolutely yes..

in fact lets include people such as injured servicemen and women, police officers/firefighters/nhs staff retired through injuries on duty..?

or is it just the ones you've seen on channel 5 or the scum (your words) that you meet in your voluntary work..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

Cliff Richard fans and people who say "pacific" instead of specific. Also, the French.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

Wow, if someones on benefits they should be forcably sterilised? There was another guy who embraced forced sterilisation of people who he felt were undesirable...Adolf something.

You'd want to have a long look in the mirror and figure out how youve gone so wrong in life that you have such little empathy for your fellow human beings and such narcissism to think that youre inherently better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good example of those that believe absurdities will commit attrocities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I work and I'm on benefit does that mean I should be sterilised.....

Or I'm a gulf war veteran I did my duty and then went to work after war should I not claim as I've now got ptsd

Or I'm a disabled thanks to the NHS fucking up my birth am I to be sterilised

Or I worked hard had a great job and family until I was involved in a car accident now I'm disabled....

Half the labour force in the UK are on o hour contracts you going to take the only other income off them ........

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

My dad used to say that in the 70's and I thought he was way out of order,but now I am older and wiser,the answer is yes.It is the kindest thing you can do as many perants are not fit to breed in my view.

My dad was a wise man ahead of his time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Wow, if someones on benefits they should be forcably sterilised? There was another guy who embraced forced sterilisation of people who he felt were undesirable...Adolf something.

You forget that when making the primary base for the 'pill' in America. They took human tests only from the black population and Puerto Rican population, I wonder if the OP wonders whether minorities, migrants and immigrants should be used as test subjects?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

Yes, but my opinion has nothing to do with whether they are on benefits or in debt.

People who lack empathy are shown to be bad parents. I'd start with them.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

Don't know about sterilisation but I do think child benefit should be restricted to 2 or maybe 3 children.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

The real scum r the ppl who agree with this shit I feel for there kids tbh if you read one of there profiles they don't discriminate or like to label ppl wtf

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"The real scum r the ppl who agree with this shit I feel for there kids tbh if you read one of there profiles they don't discriminate or like to label ppl wtf "

You missed the irony

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Yes, but my opinion has nothing to do with whether they are on benefits or in debt.

People who lack empathy are shown to be bad parents. I'd start with them."
Well my post is about drug addicts alcoholics etc are they fit to have kids?Maybe for a different thread.

As for long term unemployed,well any kids they have while sighning on should not receive child benefit that way they would be more responsible,they should only get it for the kids they already have.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin

"My dad used to say that in the 70's and I thought he was way out of order,but now I am older and wiser,the answer is yes.It is the kindest thing you can do as many perants are not fit to breed in my view.

My dad was a wise man ahead of his time"

And what about the religious right who believe that homosexuals and transgender people should be sterilised? Are they wise people ahead of their time?

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

"Don't know about sterilisation but I do think child benefit should be restricted to 2 or maybe 3 children. "

It already is - one of the changes the Tories brought in at the last budget.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Don't know about sterilisation but I do think child benefit should be restricted to 2 or maybe 3 children.

It already is - one of the changes the Tories brought in at the last budget.

Has that actually been brought in? I've just gone on the government child benefit calculator, and fir 4 children it says I would get £3,200 in child benefit. Then I put in 2 children, and it said £1,800.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't know about sterilisation but I do think child benefit should be restricted to 2 or maybe 3 children.

It already is - one of the changes the Tories brought in at the last budget.

I think you need to decide how many children you have

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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Yes, but my opinion has nothing to do with whether they are on benefits or in debt.

People who lack empathy are shown to be bad parents. I'd start with them."

Plenty of fun empathy here

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Yes, but my opinion has nothing to do with whether they are on benefits or in debt.

People who lack empathy are shown to be bad parents. I'd start with them."

Yeah its ironic that OP is the person in the thread least fit to be a parent. The way they lack empathy will surely be seen in how they treat and raise their kids. Hopefully they dont have any and wont do either.

When I hear statistics like 3% of people are pyschopaths (though not necessarily violent) its the likes of OP with their callous disregard for other people that make me believe it.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

I'm not with the original poster but i don't think that having kids should be a right. Its a choice you make so you should pay for it. But then i would go for a universal income rather than benefits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would hope that the OP and those agreeing were doing so in jest

Eugenics was a policy followed by fascist parties throughout Europe in the 1930s and 40s and would hope that any suggestion of eugenics as a real solution to anything was not a serious proposal.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

"I would hope that the OP and those agreeing were doing so in jest

Eugenics was a policy followed by fascist parties throughout Europe in the 1930s and 40s and would hope that any suggestion of eugenics as a real solution to anything was not a serious proposal."

Playing devil's advocate here....

Eugenics was supported by a lot of people at the time. Eugenics based on social rank or irrational prejudice I don't get, it makes no sense biologically, but there are some people who should remove themselves from the gene pool. Tge problem is that we simply don't have the science yet to know who they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No people should be free to choose if they want to breed. But we should limit Benefits to people who cannot work due to I'll health or those who have worked all their lives and paid into the system, as a safety net as they will return to work asap. The state should pay no support for children as it is up to parents to support them. There are plenty of jobs in this country. Bring back a bit of hunger as starvation is a great motivator.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

only the ones on Fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My dad was a wise man ahead of his time"

I'd add those that lack the ability to spell check posts to the equation also, it's a genetic trait

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Yes, but my opinion has nothing to do with whether they are on benefits or in debt.

People who lack empathy are shown to be bad parents. I'd start with them.Well my post is about drug addicts alcoholics etc are they fit to have kids?Maybe for a different thread.

As for long term unemployed,well any kids they have while sighning on should not receive child benefit that way they would be more responsible,they should only get it for the kids they already have."

Hand out free pitchforks, and make it legal to chase the buggers out of "normal" peoples villages I say. I blame these burdens on society on a lack of proper education, I suspect you may too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Yes, but my opinion has nothing to do with whether they are on benefits or in debt.

People who lack empathy are shown to be bad parents. I'd start with them.

When I hear statistics like 3% of people are pyschopaths (though not necessarily violent) its the likes of OP with their callous disregard for other people that make me believe it."
. I'm surprised there's not more..

The EU subsidise the cycle paths.

Ba dum tish

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Sick-Boy......you are the gift that just keeps giving!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

I read some nasty posts on here on rare occasions and this one is up there. I think you should re assess what your opinions are on those less fortunate than yourself

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By *earded villainMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Wow, if someones on benefits they should be forcably sterilised? There was another guy who embraced forced sterilisation of people who he felt were undesirable...Adolf something.

well said .

a vile creature

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No people should be free to choose if they want to breed. But we should limit Benefits to people who cannot work due to I'll health or those who have worked all their lives and paid into the system, as a safety net as they will return to work asap. The state should pay no support for children as it is up to parents to support them. There are plenty of jobs in this country. Bring back a bit of hunger as starvation is a great motivator."

Indeed

Huzzah for cholera and rickets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

So what makes you divinely superior to pass judgement on others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't know about sterilisation but I do think child benefit should be restricted to 2 or maybe 3 children.

It already is - one of the changes the Tories brought in at the last budget.

I think some get confused with child benifit and tax credits.

A family will get more in tax credits but less in child benifit.

But add a few more children and the tax credits increase as long as one of the parents is working

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But back to the original post some people should not breed, I'm not trying to be nasty but sometimes I look around and think that 2 wrongs don't make a right

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm not with the original poster but i don't think that having kids should be a right. Its a choice you make so you should pay for it. But then i would go for a universal income rather than benefits."

The right to a family life is a fundamental human right. In fact having children is fundamental to the continuance of the human race.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Wow, if someones on benefits they should be forcably sterilised? There was another guy who embraced forced sterilisation of people who he felt were undesirable...Adolf something.

well said .

a vile creature "

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

The right to a family life is a fundamental human right. In fact having children is fundamental to the continuance of the human race."

I've never taken that to mean specifically having children, families can be all sorts of structures.

I'm not sure the human race really should continue but that's never going to happen. People will keep having children.

I am, however, the person who didn't see Brave New World as a bad thing.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

The right to a family life is a fundamental human right. In fact having children is fundamental to the continuance of the human race.

I've never taken that to mean specifically having children, families can be all sorts of structures.

I'm not sure the human race really should continue but that's never going to happen. People will keep having children.

I am, however, the person who didn't see Brave New World as a bad thing."

I don't understand what you mean by Brave New World, however if its one where the government gets to chose who can have children and who can't, then I'm against it.

What do you think would have happened in southern states in the US if they had had this power? Or to Native American people? What would have happened to Australian Aborigines? What would have happened in apartheid South Africa? Do you think Israel might have used such power to deal with the Palestinians? Do you think this would have been used in Iraq and Turkey and other places to deal with the Kurds? How about Bosnia or Rwanda, would it have been used there? If we had it in the UK do you think that some people might advocate that it be used on muslims or gypsies or even perhaps the Irish in the past?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about couples who are both high on the autistic spectrum ?

If they have childeren the chances are they will an autistic child what are you're thoughts?

Not wanting to be horrible but should they be allowed to ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't a funny little man with a toothbrush moustache try this one in the 30s ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes and most of them end up on jeremy kyle, we need a tough system like china.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

The right to a family life is a fundamental human right. In fact having children is fundamental to the continuance of the human race.

I've never taken that to mean specifically having children, families can be all sorts of structures.

I'm not sure the human race really should continue but that's never going to happen. People will keep having children.

I am, however, the person who didn't see Brave New World as a bad thing."

Really? You read that book and thought 'yep good way to run a society?'

I knew this forum had some fascists, didn't know there were commies too.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If there high end autistic u plank how r they Guna b tgether don't talk about shit u don't understand if they r high up the autistic scale they will AV huge difficulty in making frends never mind partners wtf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If there high end autistic u plank how r they Guna b tgether don't talk about shit u don't understand if they r high up the autistic scale they will AV huge difficulty in making frends never mind partners wtf "

I'm guessing English isn't your first language?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"High end autistic" usually means high functioning.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Right, of course. Because autistic people don't deserve to have partners.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

I'm guessing English isn't your first language?"

I'm guessing English is their first language. Those that learn a 2nd language generally are not able to abbreviate to quite such a degree. But it is near on impossible to understand.

-Matt

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Right, of course. Because autistic people don't deserve to have partners.

-Matt "

To be fair I think this person was pointing out that a key symptom of autism is the fact that they struggle with interpersonal relationships and are unlikely to get married if it is severe.

I think it was the other person who suggested that they should be sterilised, or at least asked that question, who was out of order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm guessing English isn't your first language?

I'm guessing English is their first language. Those that learn a 2nd language generally are not able to abbreviate to quite such a degree. But it is near on impossible to understand.

-Matt"

Someone who's first language is English should know the difference between 'there' and 'they're' and what a full stop is used for.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Thank u very unlikely to be in a relationship exactly so you AV a pop for me useing txt on the site yet sum jerk asks if ppl with autism shud b allowed to AV kids and that's ok is it wtf

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

How about TVs how do you stand on them aving kids or is that overstepping the line . Yes it is before u AV a heart attact

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Goodness me .... youll have us all lined up for the gas chambers soon .....no one is perfect , we all have our own issues and problems to deal with as we go along the path of life ....

But to take away a persons chance of bearing children unless there is a medical reason...no one has that right to dictate .....

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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?"

I honestly think that some people, not all and it's a very difficult call to make should be chemically sterilised

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?

I honestly think that some people, not all and it's a very difficult call to make should be chemically sterilised "

And how would you feel if the government had decided that you and your partner should have been sterilised before you had children?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children"

No. Benefits to support 2. Any more kids to be put up for adoption.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"How about TVs how do you stand on them aving kids or is that overstepping the line . Yes it is before u AV a heart attact "

Yes it is OK, or yes it is overstepping the mark? See this is why text speak on here is problematic.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?

I honestly think that some people, not all and it's a very difficult call to make should be chemically sterilised

And how would you feel if the government had decided that you and your partner should have been sterilised before you had children? "
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It would have saved him a fortune

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

No. Benefits to support 2. Any more kids to be put up for adoption. "

So families are only allowed two children and anymore are to be taken by the state and put up for adoption? That would equate to hundreds of thousands, if not more, children being taken away from their families. Surely this situation would lead to more children in the adoption system than suitable would be adoptive parents or foster carers (I presume you are also limiting them to two children?). These left over children would then surely have to be housed in orphanages and cared for by the state, or have you a different final solution for these children in mind?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

According to govt figures.

You'll spend 235,000 pounds raising your child!!.

And people are getting pissed off at the govt for saving them a fortune!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Sterilised milk is too cruel for anyone - have homo genised

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sterilised milk is too cruel for anyone - have homo genised"
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You wanna try it straight from the vat while its still warm.

Cracking on your cornflakes in the winter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?"

I don't have think any of it is as simple as a yes or no but I personally would not force it on anyone but would hope to have the conversation about passing on the gene that causes it.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?

I don't have think any of it is as simple as a yes or no but I personally would not force it on anyone but would hope to have the conversation about passing on the gene that causes it.

So also sterilising the parents of autistic children then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?

I don't have think any of it is as simple as a yes or no but I personally would not force it on anyone but would hope to have the conversation about passing on the gene that causes it.

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Ive often wondered what the long term effects of Chernobyl would be like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?

I don't have think any of it is as simple as a yes or no but I personally would not force it on anyone but would hope to have the conversation about passing on the gene that causes it.

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Screening for genetic flaws and eradicating it from the gene pool is different from selecting people to be sterilized based on intelligence and social status or the number of kids they have had..Regarding autism im not convinced removing this from our gene pool is a good idea.

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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?

I honestly think that some people, not all and it's a very difficult call to make should be chemically sterilised

And how would you feel if the government had decided that you and your partner should have been sterilised before you had children? .

It would have saved him a fortune

Your definitely right on that 1

Cars

Insurance

Deposits for flats and mortgages

Support during uni

And it goes on

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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?

I don't have think any of it is as simple as a yes or no but I personally would not force it on anyone but would hope to have the conversation about passing on the gene that causes it.

Ive often wondered what the long term effects of Chernobyl would be like."

Come to my village we host families from Chernobyl every year, the time they spend with us has been proven to help their condition and improve their prospects for years of relatively good health

Look up the Chernobyl children's charity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?

I honestly think that some people, not all and it's a very difficult call to make should be chemically sterilised

And how would you feel if the government had decided that you and your partner should have been sterilised before you had children?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

No. Benefits to support 2. Any more kids to be put up for adoption.

can't believe it was you who took my bait! I thought you were one of intelligent ones!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

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Except in Africa.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Maybe just chemically sterilized until they can pass an intelligence test...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?"
Africa is about 4.7 children per woman the rest of the world 2.5.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

Screening for genetic flaws and eradicating it from the gene pool is different from selecting people to be sterilized based on intelligence and social status or the number of kids they have had..Regarding autism im not convinced removing this from our gene pool is a good idea."

Exactly while I believe in Eugenics in principle, in practice you can't do it yet as we don't have the science to know what the flip side of 'flaws' are.

I never considered Brave New World to be communist. If anything fascist but I don't have a deep understanding of the difference.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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Yes it is overstepping the mark its the second time Iv seen autism been taken the piss out of and other disabilities aswell and the the scum on here are more worried about spelling wtf it boils my piss who wud u choose to decide who should or shouldn't AV kids then sum politician or high ranking judge coz they never fuck up do they

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?Africa is about 4.7 children per woman the rest of the world 2.5. "

They need televisions quick! Comic relief won't be able to cope!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

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"Yes it is overstepping the mark its the second time Iv seen autism been taken the piss out of and other disabilities aswell and the the scum on here are more worried about spelling wtf it boils my piss who wud u choose to decide who should or shouldn't AV kids then sum politician or high ranking judge coz they never fuck up do they "

As long as they have the means to support their offspring, let the good times flow!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the state putting kids up for adoption is too costly to the tax payer .... just take every first born child, third born child and subsequent sprogs there after and sell them to foreigners or turn them into sausages or other similar money making schemes ... the profits can go to middling/striving parentless married couples, who could use the extra money to buy prosecco or whatever the currently fashionable fizzy shit is that makes these types feel like they've made it in life.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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spot on howling

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over a year ago

Exactly while I believe in Eugenics in principle, in practice you can't do it yet as we don't have the science to know what the flip side of 'flaws' are.

I never considered Brave New World to be communist. If anything fascist but I don't have a deep understanding of the difference. "
Einstein was higher functioning autistic as was Newton Mozart and Michelangelo.However these are the minority and for most its debilitating.

Huxleys Brave new World is a rather Dystopian future font you think ?.We do need population control but not but based on a persons worth to society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Huxleys Brave new World is a rather Dystopian future font you think ?.We do need population control but not but based on a persons worth to society.

let's do it geographically instead ... euthanise the west midlands from worcester to warrington and from oswestry to rugby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

OK,OP. Whats your answer to your own question? Yes or no?

Or are you too afraid to answer given the comparisons to Hitler?

I honestly think that some people, not all and it's a very difficult call to make should be chemically sterilised "

'Not all'?

That's a big relief for the human race.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

Huxleys Brave new World is a rather Dystopian future font you think ?.We do need population control but not but based on a persons worth to society.

Oh yes aspects of it are dystopian, but some aspects always seemed a good idea to me... but then I did read it when i was 15...maybe i missed some more subtle aspects

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

but then I did read it when i was 15...maybe i missed some more subtle aspects

yeah ... the ones like huxley was on a constant liquid acid binge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many millions or billions would be a sustainable population for the planet.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really ? Well I do have an autistic son so do have some insight into it

And they do have feelings just like anyone else!

And did I insult anyone calling them a plank ect? It's a discussion but obviously you're not capable of any other view but you're own

Do you think your son should be sterilised?

I don't have think any of it is as simple as a yes or no but I personally would not force it on anyone but would hope to have the conversation about passing on the gene that causes it.

So also sterilising the parents of autistic children then?"

Once I had my son and he had been diagnosed I went and got sterilised myself

I don't want to bring another one into the world.

I love him more than anything but if I had known it would happen I would have done it long before.

Just my ethic I don't expect anyone else to understand

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?"

Actually, insecurity and poverty including famine and war increase the birth rate. In the developing world parent tend to have more kids as the next generation supports the previous. So if more die the view is you need more as an insurance policy.

Development and education are how you bring the birth rate down.

But you know, overseas aid is a waste of money

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Why were u so sure any other children u may of had wud of been autistic ? Don't doubt how much u luv yr son I admire yr honestly do u think it's genetic ?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?

Development and education are how you bring the birth rate down.

But you know, overseas aid is a waste of money

I know, but one day we'll learn. You really can't polish a turd.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?

Development and education are how you bring the birth rate down.

But you know, overseas aid is a waste of money

I know, but one day we'll learn. You really can't polish a turd."

What does this mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really think that all of you who don't have an idea about genetics, DNA and RNA replication and mutation, epigenetics, gene therapy and editing should sit down and stop discussing sterilisation and eugenics.

You are playing with fire and one of the biggest arguments in the field of science for not moving forward with 'playing God with genetics' is around the issue of propaganda and outdated ideoligies using the techniques.

On top of that genes do mutate to have new effects and removing one gene might just trigger the epigenetic switch for something worse.

Basically sit down on this issue.

Discuss child benifit and whether the UK wants to go down a two child policy route all you wish, those are good economic discussions to have.

But leave science you do not understand out of your political agendas.

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By *isdirtygirlCouple
over a year ago

somewhere out there

"Should some people be chemically sterilised to prevent them having children

Cliff Richard fans and people who say "pacific" instead of specific. Also, the French."

I'd go with options 2 and 3!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many millions or billions would be a sustainable population for the planet.?"
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About 4!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many millions or billions would be a sustainable population for the planet.?.

About 4!.

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4 people or 4 milllion or 4 billion.

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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

"I dont know if anybody noticed but.. Fertility rates are falling faster than a brexit pound

Mother nature is sterilising you all anyhow

Except in Africa.

Yep. Aids and famine doesn't seem to affect the birth rate.

Of course Africa is a big place, are you talking about libya or somalia?Africa is about 4.7 children per woman the rest of the world 2.5. "

Try visiting Oldham and Luton Rochdale the birth rate in parts is definitely higher than 2.5

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By *oorland2 OP Couple
over a year ago

Stoke

"the state putting kids up for adoption is too costly to the tax payer .... just take every first born child, third born child and subsequent sprogs there after and sell them to foreigners or turn them into sausages or other similar money making schemes ... the profits can go to middling/striving parentless married couples, who could use the extra money to buy prosecco or whatever the currently fashionable fizzy shit is that makes these types feel like they've made it in life."

Prosecco spritz please, even nicer when sat in the sun watching skiers go by on a mountain

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