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"Trump hasn't even got a Trade Secretary appointed yet!" He doesnt need one he doesnt delegate. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? " You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() | |||
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"I think Trump just tosses a coin for policy daily ![]() ![]() Until we disagree with him and then its back of the line time | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() Another one who doesn't understand trade blocs ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() Neither do I need pills nor take them. But you keep taking yours, although they do not appear to be working. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() Yes, that one being you. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() Care to point out where I am wrong? Or what I do not understand. Yes the latin american and african trade blocks are less developed than the EU and its effiliated arrangements, but they are still regulated trade blocks. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() That the best you can come up with? So maybe you can tell us which trading bloc or large economy the EU trading bloc has a deal with? The protectionist nature and diverse requirements of the member states of blocs makes this too difficult. Or how long has the EU been in existence and now all of a sudden they are going to be doing all these great deals because the UK ( one of its biggest members) has left? Its laughable | |||
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"The simple fact is that he currently can not do a trade deal with us until our exit from the EU is complete, whereas there are no such restrictions with regard to the EU. Also, due to the bureaucratic nature of the union, it will likely take several years to get a deal ratified by all 27 member states, whereas a deal with the UK can be dealt with a whole lot quicker" I actually think it'll take longer for britain than the EU. The Eu will know what wants and deserves from america, and it has the legal and logicistical infastructure to hash out trade deals. Meanwhile, we are currently struggling to find enough negotiaters, and train enough legal writters to hash out the trade arrangements. Also we are divided with the tory party. Half we take what they are given to get a deal in the bank, others will want to scrutinise it and add and remove policies, for good reason. | |||
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"The simple fact is that he currently can not do a trade deal with us until our exit from the EU is complete, whereas there are no such restrictions with regard to the EU. Also, due to the bureaucratic nature of the union, it will likely take several years to get a deal ratified by all 27 member states, whereas a deal with the UK can be dealt with a whole lot quicker I actually think it'll take longer for britain than the EU. The Eu will know what wants and deserves from america, and it has the legal and logicistical infastructure to hash out trade deals. Meanwhile, we are currently struggling to find enough negotiaters, and train enough legal writters to hash out the trade arrangements. Also we are divided with the tory party. Half we take what they are given to get a deal in the bank, others will want to scrutinise it and add and remove policies, for good reason." You're living in dream land mate | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() How many countries with strong and viberant economies are not in trade blocs then? Please subtract those which are so big they could feasably not need to import - america and china, and those with niche resources and markets which they have a large monopoly to export. So the gulf states, Norway, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan... | |||
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"The simple fact is that he currently can not do a trade deal with us until our exit from the EU is complete, whereas there are no such restrictions with regard to the EU. Also, due to the bureaucratic nature of the union, it will likely take several years to get a deal ratified by all 27 member states, whereas a deal with the UK can be dealt with a whole lot quicker I actually think it'll take longer for britain than the EU. The Eu will know what wants and deserves from america, and it has the legal and logicistical infastructure to hash out trade deals. Meanwhile, we are currently struggling to find enough negotiaters, and train enough legal writters to hash out the trade arrangements. Also we are divided with the tory party. Half we take what they are given to get a deal in the bank, others will want to scrutinise it and add and remove policies, for good reason. You're living in dream land mate" Still waiting for you to correct me on the issue of trade blocs. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() Please subtract big economies? ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() You know exactly what I meant by large economies. Those with the resources within their own borders they could in theory be isolationist, or only exporters if they wished. E.g, trumps vision of produce and buy american. Also i'll give you my opinion when you answer my question and educate me on trade blocs, and give me good examples of thriving economies out of a trade bloc which don't have an economic monopoly - given that britain does have an economic monopoly on anything. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() I might if that question made any sense | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() Am I allowed to use Google or are facts banned as always? | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() Quote any source but not all links are treated equal. ![]() | |||
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"Trump hasn't even got a Trade Secretary appointed yet!" its the business secretary that does that does this in the US... and his name is Wilbur Ross ![]() ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() I'll write it as an essay question then: Please give examples of nations which do not operate within a trade block of any kind. The nations you give examples of should not be nations which hold an economic monopoly on a resource, or a monopoly on a good/service. Nor should they have enough resources within their own borders that should they chose to, they could not import goods. The reasoning for this is because Britain has no such monopoly, and we are trying to look at what Britain objectively gains from not being part of a trade block. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() That's odd, when I looked up democracy for you, you seemed to get upset. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() Japan would be the obvious one because of the size of its economy, lack of monopoly on anything and lack of natural resources. (And the TPP is not a trading bloc but a trade agreement between countries, one of which was the USA until it pulled out in January) Now are you going to answer my question? | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() Not satisfactory. Japan is part of APEC - since about 2013 APEC has been heading in the direction of the EU rather than the EEC to prevent escalating conflict in the South China sea. Also you forget that S.Korea and Japan effectively share the world hardware development market when it comes to computers, tablets and handheld devices. Europe and America's share of this monopoly is negligible. So try again. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() APEC is not a trade bloc ffs ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() "Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) is a forum of 21 Pacific Rim countries that seeks to promote free trade and economic cooperation throughout the Asia-Pacific region" https://www.boundless.com/marketing/textbooks/boundless-marketing-textbook/global-marketing-7/important-international-bodies-and-agreements-54/the-asia-pacific-economic-cooperation-apec-269-4076/ Sounds like a trade bloc to me. If it isn't one, what is it? | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? " Ah so he is going to allow free movement of people then? ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A trade agreement. You are comparing chalk and cheese if comparing it to the EU. The members have no legal obligations and are free to make their own trade deals. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That there was no point debating with fanatics | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Wise words. ![]() | |||
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"P.S. if I am wrong, how could Trump make a deal with anybody?" P.P.S. If if the countries of Europe (or EU if you like) had an agreement like the APEC one they would be a lot more succesful | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? " Happy days ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? Happy days ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I haven't seen anyone suggest we shouldn't have a trade deal with the US. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? " And this is a surprise because??! | |||
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"Can anyone answer the question, why don't the EU and US already have a deal?" Because they have been negotiating it for the past 5 years and still doing so. It is a massive beast of a deal being negotiated in secret with a lot of opposition to the rumoured contents. -Matt | |||
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"Can anyone answer the question, why don't the EU and US already have a deal?" If I understand correctly - and this is very basic I'll admit, but then again any dealing between a economic-political union and one of the worlds national superpowers is going to be complex, under the last 6 years of negotiations the US kept trying to push TTIP as part as any negotiation. A friend explained it to me as, the US will not except anything unless the EU accepted TTIP, and funnily enough, Europe, which still tries to keep unions in each member state strong, and doesn't like the idea of companies being able to sue the government when it refuses to allow say, mineral extraction, refused to accept it. Even Germany which had the most to gain from it rejected it. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Pretty much every article discussing it, economic review, business investor portfolio describes it as a trade block. They have free trade, standardised quality of goods and services for exports - not to the same extent as the EU, but they run it in a similar way to the EEC/EEA. If you wish to trade, fine, but what you export has to match a quality agreed by all. If it's to use internally within your own country, fine, only national legislation applies. Members commit to contributing money to develop infrastructure and development internationally, and educational and research exchange is facilitated. So if this is not a trade block - what is it, because it is far more than just a trade arrangement. | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? You still choking on the bitter pill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ok you call it a block, I'll call it an agreement. So how does the EU trade with this 'bloc'? Or does it trade with the individual countries? | |||
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"Can anyone answer the question, why don't the EU and US already have a deal? Because they have been negotiating it for the past 5 years and still doing so. It is a massive beast of a deal being negotiated in secret with a lot of opposition to the rumoured contents. -Matt" Why only 5 years? How long has the EU existed? And if it has been going on for 5 years already, what does the headline, Trump puts EU deal before UK deal mean? | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters?Who cares what Trump says today by tomorrow he will have changed his mind " | |||
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"Can anyone answer the question, why don't the EU and US already have a deal? Because they have been negotiating it for the past 5 years and still doing so. It is a massive beast of a deal being negotiated in secret with a lot of opposition to the rumoured contents. -Matt Why only 5 years? How long has the EU existed? And if it has been going on for 5 years already, what does the headline, Trump puts EU deal before UK deal mean?" I've no idea. I'm not an international trade negotiator. But I'd imagine it means that the US is going to prioritise its efforts on the EU deal over any potential future U.K. deal. -Matt | |||
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"Can anyone answer the question, why don't the EU and US already have a deal? Because they have been negotiating it for the past 5 years and still doing so. It is a massive beast of a deal being negotiated in secret with a lot of opposition to the rumoured contents. -Matt Why only 5 years? How long has the EU existed? And if it has been going on for 5 years already, what does the headline, Trump puts EU deal before UK deal mean? I've no idea. I'm not an international trade negotiator. But I'd imagine it means that the US is going to prioritise its efforts on the EU deal over any potential future U.K. deal. -Matt" I cant see what difference it makes if the US agree a deal with the EU before we leave the EU then we already have a deal with the US, then when we leave if all agree just sign a similar agreement job done. ![]() | |||
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"I think Trump just tosses a coin for policy daily ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? Happy days ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Haha Are you sure. Maybe you were out getting your hair done that day. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? Happy days ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe, I'm sure you'll be able to find a quote to support your assertions though ![]() | |||
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"'Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue' Thoughts, brexiters? Happy days ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm sure I could find many quotes supporting my assertions. I just can't be bothered. | |||
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