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over a year ago

MIT professor debunks US intelligence claims that Syria was responsible for sarin gas attack!.(he was the guy who also debunked the 2013 claim by Obama)

Hes of the opinion that the us government along with its state sponsored media propaganda is trying to manufacture consent for a war which is what other experts like Noam Chomsky have been saying for decades!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember doctor kelly from the iraq war who rightly said that hussain didnt have WMDs

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over a year ago


"MIT professor debunks US intelligence claims that Syria was responsible for sarin gas attack!.(he was the guy who also debunked the 2013 claim by Obama)

Hes of the opinion that the us government along with its state sponsored media propaganda is trying to manufacture consent for a war which is what other experts like Noam Chomsky have been saying for decades!.

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Big fan of chomsky.Hes a good read.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ."

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Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

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over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ..

Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

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No, I'm merely pointing to a pattern of established conduct by the Syrian state. The other instances you mentioned are not relevant to the opening context of your post.

Definitely Syria isn't unique in the brutalities of its regime, I'll give you that- it does not negate the harsh realities of how the Syrian state has operated throughout the last few decades and the roles they've played in orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions in neighbouring nations .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ."

The documentary you refer to is "hyper normalisation".Its very good.

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over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels . The documentary you refer to is "hyper normalisation".Its very good. "

That's the one. . He made another in a similar vein which i haven't gotten around to watching yet, "bitter lake" or something like that? Cheers.

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over a year ago

Seymour hersh was one of the first journalists to write about te first gas attack.

google: seymour hersh sarin syria

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Seymour hersh was one of the first journalists to write about te first gas attack.

google: seymour hersh sarin syria

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Yes he managed to get his article printed in the new York times but was lambasted for it for two years but now its pretty much accepted that the evidence against Assad in 2013 was very poor at most and probably not him

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ..

Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

No, I'm merely pointing to a pattern of established conduct by the Syrian state. The other instances you mentioned are not relevant to the opening context of your post.

Definitely Syria isn't unique in the brutalities of its regime, I'll give you that- it does not negate the harsh realities of how the Syrian state has operated throughout the last few decades and the roles they've played in orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions in neighbouring nations ."

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No what youve done is a first class, straight out of the book hatchet job on how they manufacture consent for war.

Youve ignored a professors expert advise, taken everything western intelligence say as gospel, thrown in some conjecture and hearsay about what the Assad regime have been "implicated" in,then accused them of "orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions" , now read that last sentence to yourself while thinking about the last at least 50 years of western meddling in the middle East?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ..

Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

No, I'm merely pointing to a pattern of established conduct by the Syrian state. The other instances you mentioned are not relevant to the opening context of your post.

Definitely Syria isn't unique in the brutalities of its regime, I'll give you that- it does not negate the harsh realities of how the Syrian state has operated throughout the last few decades and the roles they've played in orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions in neighbouring nations ..

No what youve done is a first class, straight out of the book hatchet job on how they manufacture consent for war.

Youve ignored a professors expert advise, taken everything western intelligence say as gospel, thrown in some conjecture and hearsay about what the Assad regime have been "implicated" in,then accused them of "orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions" , now read that last sentence to yourself while thinking about the last at least 50 years of western meddling in the middle East?"

The strategy of manipulating sectarianism can be seen in countless examples of Syria’s recent past.Just google it ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ..

Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

No, I'm merely pointing to a pattern of established conduct by the Syrian state. The other instances you mentioned are not relevant to the opening context of your post.

Definitely Syria isn't unique in the brutalities of its regime, I'll give you that- it does not negate the harsh realities of how the Syrian state has operated throughout the last few decades and the roles they've played in orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions in neighbouring nations ..

No what youve done is a first class, straight out of the book hatchet job on how they manufacture consent for war.

Youve ignored a professors expert advise, taken everything western intelligence say as gospel, thrown in some conjecture and hearsay about what the Assad regime have been "implicated" in,then accused them of "orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions" , now read that last sentence to yourself while thinking about the last at least 50 years of western meddling in the middle East? The strategy of manipulating sectarianism can be seen in countless examples of Syria’s recent past.Just google it ... "

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Google Northern Ireland?.

Nobody denies that its good or not happening, its how they manipulate it as a cause for war!.

Liberals are easy to con because there liberal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ..

Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

No, I'm merely pointing to a pattern of established conduct by the Syrian state. The other instances you mentioned are not relevant to the opening context of your post.

Definitely Syria isn't unique in the brutalities of its regime, I'll give you that- it does not negate the harsh realities of how the Syrian state has operated throughout the last few decades and the roles they've played in orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions in neighbouring nations ..

No what youve done is a first class, straight out of the book hatchet job on how they manufacture consent for war.

Youve ignored a professors expert advise, taken everything western intelligence say as gospel, thrown in some conjecture and hearsay about what the Assad regime have been "implicated" in,then accused them of "orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions" , now read that last sentence to yourself while thinking about the last at least 50 years of western meddling in the middle East? The strategy of manipulating sectarianism can be seen in countless examples of Syria’s recent past.Just google it ... .

Google Northern Ireland?.

Nobody denies that its good or not happening, its how they manipulate it as a cause for war!.

Liberals are easy to con because there liberal"

i dont know if the other poster is liberal .I have never been liberal myself . Assad has manipulated sectarianism as a method of control.He might be liberal...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Syraia has long been a safe haven for terrorists and state sponsored barbary against it's citizens .

Not sure if you managed to watch it but Adam Curtis made a very interesting documentary about Syria, their role in conceiving the suicide bomb as a guerrilla terrorist weapon.

It was even suggested Syria were behind Lockerbie but the west couldn't directly go after them due to needing an ally in the then impending gulf war so opted instead to use Gaddafi as an easy pawn due to him being a relative pariah amongst middle eastern leaders and the west.

Knowing what the Assad's have down for decades in syria against its citizens and the significant hand they've had in orchestrating atrocities within neighbouring countries..

I have little reason to doubt assad's forces perpetrated the chemical attacks against rebels ..

Are your saying youve seen evidence that Assads government was training suicide bombers for Israeli? attacks?.

Do you want to really know whos a safe haven for terrorism.. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both of whom were deeply involved in 911 according to the 911 report.

Which state is currently breaking more UN resolutions than Syria? Could that be Israel! Theyve sponsored terrorisim for fucking decades, theyve conducted state sponsored assassinations of enemies inside of foreign countries for decades, theyve been involved in the running of guns for cocaine along with the USA to countrys like Iran to Nicaragua who were under a UN arms embargo while the "rebels" ran rap* camps and murder squads.

Oh wait you just wanna talk about Syrias bad deeds not ours.

My bad

No, I'm merely pointing to a pattern of established conduct by the Syrian state. The other instances you mentioned are not relevant to the opening context of your post.

Definitely Syria isn't unique in the brutalities of its regime, I'll give you that- it does not negate the harsh realities of how the Syrian state has operated throughout the last few decades and the roles they've played in orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions in neighbouring nations ..

No what youve done is a first class, straight out of the book hatchet job on how they manufacture consent for war.

Youve ignored a professors expert advise, taken everything western intelligence say as gospel, thrown in some conjecture and hearsay about what the Assad regime have been "implicated" in,then accused them of "orchestrating and cynically inflaming sectarian tensions" , now read that last sentence to yourself while thinking about the last at least 50 years of western meddling in the middle East? The strategy of manipulating sectarianism can be seen in countless examples of Syria’s recent past.Just google it ... .

Google Northern Ireland?.

Nobody denies that its good or not happening, its how they manipulate it as a cause for war!.

Liberals are easy to con because there liberal i dont know if the other poster is liberal .I have never been liberal myself . Assad has manipulated sectarianism as a method of control.He might be liberal... "

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So has everybody else was my point!.

Im not here to defend Assads regime, its not good, its pretty awful but.. It could be worse just look at Libya, Iraq, Egypt and Afghanistan.

The Wests record at success in this area is so piss poor its not even worth considering in Syria unless your a gung ho war nut

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