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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No thread about this yet?

When will society value people appropriately?

I get paid I'd imagine significantly more than a nurse of similar experience would but believe my job is much less physically and emotionally demanding.

They shouldn't be put in the situation where they need to be considering striking to get a 'fair' pay settlement.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

It's the fact that they have had below average pay rises, so in real terms, a pay cut.

Many nurses that I know are quite well paid but a rise of 1% of £30k isn't the same as a rise of 1% of £80k.

Independent pay review sets the rise but just how independent are they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's the fact that they have had below average pay rises, so in real terms, a pay cut.

Many nurses that I know are quite well paid but a rise of 1% of £30k isn't the same as a rise of 1% of £80k.

Independent pay review sets the rise but just how independent are they?"

It's the price of the required osterity measures the UK has had to be subjected to which any gains has now been mainly nullified even after so much pain for so many.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's the fact that they have had below average pay rises, so in real terms, a pay cut.

Many nurses that I know are quite well paid but a rise of 1% of £30k isn't the same as a rise of 1% of £80k.

Independent pay review sets the rise but just how independent are they?

It's the price of the required osterity measures the UK has had to be subjected to which any gains has now been mainly nullified even after so much pain for so many."

"required" austerity measures, while reducing taxation for the richest in society. It's only the less well off that seemed to have paid for austerity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs."
I meant concerned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life"

Trying something different to capitalism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism."
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Whats your idea?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism..

Whats your idea?"

Progressive taxation for a start, properly funded education and the ban of private education to help equalise children's start in life, better rules around executive pay to stop the 1% deciding each others salary increase while their shareholders (Joe public's pension scheme) have no legally binding say......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism..

Whats your idea?

Progressive taxation for a start, properly funded education and the ban of private education to help equalise children's start in life, better rules around executive pay to stop the 1% deciding each others salary increase while their shareholders (Joe public's pension scheme) have no legally binding say......"
.

Thats regulations, its still capitalism?.

Never work today, the world changed 40 years ago, the rich are free to live and pay taxes wherever they choose and they choose to pay the least possible.

All youll actually do is drain the country of talent even faster than we currently are

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism..

Whats your idea?

Progressive taxation for a start, properly funded education and the ban of private education to help equalise children's start in life, better rules around executive pay to stop the 1% deciding each others salary increase while their shareholders (Joe public's pension scheme) have no legally binding say.......

Thats regulations, its still capitalism?.

Never work today, the world changed 40 years ago, the rich are free to live and pay taxes wherever they choose and they choose to pay the least possible.

All youll actually do is drain the country of talent even faster than we currently are"

Scandinavian counties have a much more socialist outlook and have high standards of living, despite the weather.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism..

Whats your idea?

Progressive taxation for a start, properly funded education and the ban of private education to help equalise children's start in life, better rules around executive pay to stop the 1% deciding each others salary increase while their shareholders (Joe public's pension scheme) have no legally binding say.......

Thats regulations, its still capitalism?.

Never work today, the world changed 40 years ago, the rich are free to live and pay taxes wherever they choose and they choose to pay the least possible.

All youll actually do is drain the country of talent even faster than we currently are

Scandinavian counties have a much more socialist outlook and have high standards of living, despite the weather."
.

Thats a complete myth, Sweden is near broke, Norway has huge amounts of oil and Finland is fucking terrible, Denmark doesn't do to bad but the one thing about them all is practically nobody lives there, if you combine all the population of every Scandinavian county you dont even have England. If you could point me to a country with a hundred million population that uses the Scandinavian system ill think my thoughts

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By *oorland2Couple
over a year ago

Stoke


"They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs."

The EU nationals are going back because the exchange rate has effected how much money they can actually send home

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By *oorland2Couple
over a year ago

Stoke


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism..

Whats your idea?

Progressive taxation for a start, properly funded education and the ban of private education to help equalise children's start in life, better rules around executive pay to stop the 1% deciding each others salary increase while their shareholders (Joe public's pension scheme) have no legally binding say.......

Thats regulations, its still capitalism?.

Never work today, the world changed 40 years ago, the rich are free to live and pay taxes wherever they choose and they choose to pay the least possible.

All youll actually do is drain the country of talent even faster than we currently are

Scandinavian counties have a much more socialist outlook and have high standards of living, despite the weather..

Thats a complete myth, Sweden is near broke, Norway has huge amounts of oil and Finland is fucking terrible, Denmark doesn't do to bad but the one thing about them all is practically nobody lives there, if you combine all the population of every Scandinavian county you dont even have England. If you could point me to a country with a hundred million population that uses the Scandinavian system ill think my thoughts"

Birth rate dramatically up in Sweden

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs.

The EU nationals are going back because the exchange rate has effected how much money they can actually send home"
That is right and they have to find skilled peeps to fill in the positions at nhs to replace them.

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By *oorland2Couple
over a year ago

Stoke


"Its capitalism What do you suggest?

Nurses are ten a penny you can get them for bobbins all over the world, thats life

Trying something different to capitalism..

Whats your idea?

Progressive taxation for a start, properly funded education and the ban of private education to help equalise children's start in life, better rules around executive pay to stop the 1% deciding each others salary increase while their shareholders (Joe public's pension scheme) have no legally binding say.......

Thats regulations, its still capitalism?.

Never work today, the world changed 40 years ago, the rich are free to live and pay taxes wherever they choose and they choose to pay the least possible.

All youll actually do is drain the country of talent even faster than we currently are

Scandinavian counties have a much more socialist outlook and have high standards of living, despite the weather."

But you struggle to get a drink,

Danes shop in Norway

Norwegians in Sweden

And the swedes in holland

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By *oorland2Couple
over a year ago

Stoke


"They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs.

The EU nationals are going back because the exchange rate has effected how much money they can actually send homeThat is right and they have to find skilled peeps to fill in the positions at nhs to replace them."

About time we invested in home grown talents

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs.

The EU nationals are going back because the exchange rate has effected how much money they can actually send homeThat is right and they have to find skilled peeps to fill in the positions at nhs to replace them.

About time we invested in home grown talents "

Absolutely right. So the first thing we will do is remove bursaries for nursing students - that'll help no end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They should be more considered with record numbers of eu nurses leaving nhs.

The EU nationals are going back because the exchange rate has effected how much money they can actually send homeThat is right and they have to find skilled peeps to fill in the positions at nhs to replace them.

About time we invested in home grown talents

Absolutely right. So the first thing we will do is remove bursaries for nursing students - that'll help no end"

This is a problem woth nearly all areas of employment. Employers don't give a monkeys about anything but profit and nothing else . Tbeir attitude is If they can save money by getting foreign, pre trained and experienced employees then why train brits?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once again we have this situation.....

We will get the usual moral outrage from Govt designed to pressure the nurses to desist from striking.It will get the press and usual mouthpieces to express this as an attack on the sick and elderly...Meanwhile the bankers and other financial institutions who got us in this mess are paying themselves bonuses of double a nurses salary on average...Yes we know where the real moral outrage should be directed

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