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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Now its just a gravy train. Wouldn't it help out if all of them, for 1 week work for nothing. Imagine the saving that would be made" Absolutely naff all in the grand scheme of things | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Now its just a gravy train. Wouldn't it help out if all of them, for 1 week work for nothing. Imagine the saving that would be made Absolutely naff all in the grand scheme of things "  | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Now its just a gravy train. Wouldn't it help out if all of them, for 1 week work for nothing. Imagine the saving that would be made Absolutely naff all in the grand scheme of things "At least we agree on something. | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Now its just a gravy train. Wouldn't it help out if all of them, for 1 week work for nothing. Imagine the saving that would be made Absolutely naff all in the grand scheme of things
At least we agree on something. "Thruthfully it's a bit of a no brainer Classy | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Now its just a gravy train. Wouldn't it help out if all of them, for 1 week work for nothing. Imagine the saving that would be made Absolutely naff all in the grand scheme of things " It would possibly put more money in the coffers if they each donated a week's worth of their other paid jobs, engagements, TV appearances, etc! | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Now its just a gravy train. Wouldn't it help out if all of them, for 1 week work for nothing. Imagine the saving that would be made Absolutely naff all in the grand scheme of things It would possibly put more money in the coffers if they each donated a week's worth of their other paid jobs, engagements, TV appearances, etc!" | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. " Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job'  | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job' "What's wrong with it being a career? Surely anyone with the drive to succeed and better themselves will see their job as a career | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job'
What's wrong with it being a career? Surely anyone with the drive to succeed and better themselves will see their job as a career"But do we need 650 of them? The reason they do it is salary - but the main reason is their super pension plan! After 15 years they have a pension pot of around £900,000 - 20 years £1.3m!!!! Nowhere else can offer such a generous scheme. Oh we pay for it - so how about austerity in the House of Commons? 20% cut back would be a fair start? | |||
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" Oh we pay for it - so how about austerity in the House of Commons? 20% cut back would be a fair start?" Not your best idea, but I do understand where you are coming from. May I offer an alternative? (And firstly justify it.) We need to discourage those who see politics as a stepping stone to highly lucrative private sector jobs and speaking engagements after they loose office. Therefore: I would suggest increasing our MP's salaries and pensions while imposing total life bans with life long imprisonment and extremely punitive monetary punishments on any MP found to be acting for corporate interests. I would also suggest that MP's (or their spouses) be banned from holding any second jobs or investing in any commercial enterprises. Make MP's work for the people who elect them not whoever has the biggest wallet.  | |||
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" Oh we pay for it - so how about austerity in the House of Commons? 20% cut back would be a fair start? Not your best idea, but I do understand where you are coming from. May I offer an alternative? (And firstly justify it.) We need to discourage those who see politics as a stepping stone to highly lucrative private sector jobs and speaking engagements after they loose office. Therefore: I would suggest increasing our MP's salaries and pensions while imposing total life bans with life long imprisonment and extremely punitive monetary punishments on any MP found to be acting for corporate interests. I would also suggest that MP's (or their spouses) be banned from holding any second jobs or investing in any commercial enterprises. Make MP's work for the people who elect them not whoever has the biggest wallet. "some merit in your logic. My reasoning behind cutting the numbers is purely down to personal experience - I have never had the need to go to my MP and I wonder if they are "fully employed " - often you see benches in parliament empty - hence my question. Agree 1 job & 1 job only. Once they "retire" they seem to do all right for themselves. | |||
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"some merit in your logic. My reasoning behind cutting the numbers is purely down to personal experience - I have never had the need to go to my MP and I wonder if they are "fully employed " - often you see benches in parliament empty - hence my question. Agree 1 job & 1 job only. Once they "retire" they seem to do all right for themselves. " I think more than some merit... I understand your frustration with seeing empty debating chambers, but they also serve on committees that sit at the same time so low numbers in the chamber may (note may) give a false representation of what MPs are doing. However my main objection to reducing the number of MPs is to do with the tendency of smaller groups to more radical (extreme) positions. This is especially true in politics. If anything I would be in favour of increasing the size o the commons and introducing PR. Force them to represent us and to compromise in order to find common ground seems to me to be the way forward. Not what we have now! | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job' "I would much rather have a politician who was a full time politician who saw that as their career, rather than a part time MP who makes the bulk of their income from consultancy, being a non-executive director, after dinner speeches, investment banking, or even newspaper editor. | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job'
I would much rather have a politician who was a full time politician who saw that as their career, rather than a part time MP who makes the bulk of their income from consultancy, being a non-executive director, after dinner speeches, investment banking, or even newspaper editor. "The problem is that many of them think they can do both. | |||
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"Surely we should tie there salary and much more importantly there pensions to a multiple of the average wage in the country and at most twice the standard Old Age Pension....Watch the scramble to raise standards then.... "How about max 4 * min wage, all expenses have to be receipted, standard class travel only, clock and clock off, must do a minimum amount of constituent surgeries, sit all year round, 5 weeks holiday, and no non contributory pension, pension max 2* state pension. Not allowed second jobs. | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job'
I would much rather have a politician who was a full time politician who saw that as their career, rather than a part time MP who makes the bulk of their income from consultancy, being a non-executive director, after dinner speeches, investment banking, or even newspaper editor. "not sure about that ? Surely then they would only care about the money ? | |||
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"In the old days, it was considered a privilege to serve as a politician.. Yes and now people go into it as a career and don't really care what they do or say as long as they've got a 'job'
I would much rather have a politician who was a full time politician who saw that as their career, rather than a part time MP who makes the bulk of their income from consultancy, being a non-executive director, after dinner speeches, investment banking, or even newspaper editor. not sure about that ?
Surely then they would only care about the money ? "How do you mean? | |||
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