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"Leeds is likely to be the 1st low carbon city, when is moves to a hydrogen gas network, is this a good investment by the government and the regulator " I don't believe the whole global warming myth but............... There is only a finite amount of oil left and I would much rather live in a clean environment than a dirty one. In that respect, I approve of the move to cleaner energy sources. | |||
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"No its an utter waste of money and resources as far as i can see. Either the scientists are correct and we are fucked within 50 years because lets be honest, we as a planet are NOT getting off hydrocarbons and in which case we really really need to be spending this money on fortifications of what is to come Or there wrong, hardly anything will come of it and we'll have wasted trillions in pointless green energy nonsense. " Well it's good for any body in gas industry, good for anybody who owns an old salt Cavan where the carbon can be stored Good for appliance manufacturers as they will need to swap out all of the existing appliances It will be like conversion all over again, and in the long term it should generate thousands of skilled jobs | |||
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"No its an utter waste of money and resources as far as i can see. Either the scientists are correct and we are fucked within 50 years because lets be honest, we as a planet are NOT getting off hydrocarbons and in which case we really really need to be spending this money on fortifications of what is to come Or there wrong, hardly anything will come of it and we'll have wasted trillions in pointless green energy nonsense. Well it's good for any body in gas industry, good for anybody who owns an old salt Cavan where the carbon can be stored Good for appliance manufacturers as they will need to swap out all of the existing appliances It will be like conversion all over again, and in the long term it should generate thousands of skilled jobs" . The world has a perfect carbon storage facility right now, its called oil?. So let me get this straight, you wanna take hydrocarbons strip out the carbon which takes more energy than the hydrogen you get left with, store the carbon in cavern in an attempt to stop it leeching back into the environment? And this is an attempt to do what? Stop global warning  | |||
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"No its an utter waste of money and resources as far as i can see. Either the scientists are correct and we are fucked within 50 years because lets be honest, we as a planet are NOT getting off hydrocarbons and in which case we really really need to be spending this money on fortifications of what is to come Or there wrong, hardly anything will come of it and we'll have wasted trillions in pointless green energy nonsense. Well it's good for any body in gas industry, good for anybody who owns an old salt Cavan where the carbon can be stored Good for appliance manufacturers as they will need to swap out all of the existing appliances It will be like conversion all over again, and in the long term it should generate thousands of skilled jobs. The world has a perfect carbon storage facility right now, its called oil?. So let me get this straight, you wanna take hydrocarbons strip out the carbon which takes more energy than the hydrogen you get left with, store the carbon in cavern in an attempt to stop it leeching back into the environment? And this is an attempt to do what? Stop global warning "Carbon sequestration is mostly BS ! Its a method that has not worked well in other places , basically a con , money making scheme .... that we pay for ! While we humans tend to screw up the enviroment , that is a far cry from the concept of "climate change" from human activity ! Its the first big con of the 21rst century ! Big business at work with BS like Qioto and the resulting "Carbon exchange"system ! Asses like Al gore got rich from it ! The only "inconvenient truth" is that fact the movie was bad science ! As a pragmatic environmentalist all of these schemes make me sick !  | |||
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"Leeds is likely to be the 1st low carbon city, when is moves to a hydrogen gas network, is this a good investment by the government and the regulator " At this point, any progress in this direction is good progress. We've been twiddling our thumbs far too long on the issue and once some places implement policies that show that it's possible and economical, others will follow. Surprised with the amount of climate change deniers here though. Is it a Heartland foundation forum by any chance?  | |||
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"No its an utter waste of money and resources as far as i can see. Either the scientists are correct and we are fucked within 50 years because lets be honest, we as a planet are NOT getting off hydrocarbons and in which case we really really need to be spending this money on fortifications of what is to come Or there wrong, hardly anything will come of it and we'll have wasted trillions in pointless green energy nonsense. Well it's good for any body in gas industry, good for anybody who owns an old salt Cavan where the carbon can be stored Good for appliance manufacturers as they will need to swap out all of the existing appliances It will be like conversion all over again, and in the long term it should generate thousands of skilled jobs. The world has a perfect carbon storage facility right now, its called oil?. So let me get this straight, you wanna take hydrocarbons strip out the carbon which takes more energy than the hydrogen you get left with, store the carbon in cavern in an attempt to stop it leeching back into the environment? And this is an attempt to do what? Stop global warning
Carbon sequestration is mostly BS !
Its a method that has not worked well in other places , basically a con , money making scheme .... that we pay for !
While we humans tend to screw up the enviroment , that is a far cry from the concept of "climate change" from human activity !
Its the first big con of the 21rst century !
Big business at work with BS like Qioto and the resulting "Carbon exchange"system !
Asses like Al gore got rich from it !
The only "inconvenient truth" is that fact the movie was bad science !
As a pragmatic environmentalist all of these schemes make me sick ! ". No i actually agree with everything the scientists say, i just dont believe the world will or people want to change. Lets face some facts hydrocarbon fuel works fucking brilliantly?, you can store shit loads of energy in a gallon of petrol, you can pump it around, put in tubs, store it, use it in aircraft, cars, ships, generators, you can make plastics out of it and cloths and chemicals and pesticides and fertilizes and drugs... Its Whats known as pretty amazing and were not giving up that good shit so time to spend that money on something worthwhile which if anybody has got any sense will be trying to put in stuff that will mitigate the worst effects of whats to come. | |||
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"Leeds is likely to be the 1st low carbon city, when is moves to a hydrogen gas network, is this a good investment by the government and the regulator At this point, any progress in this direction is good progress. We've been twiddling our thumbs far too long on the issue and once some places implement policies that show that it's possible and economical, others will follow. Surprised with the amount of climate change deniers here though. Is it a Heartland foundation forum by any chance? ". Depends, have you actually read anything of what the scientists wrote?. If so youd know this is a waste of time and precious resources | |||
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"Leeds is likely to be the 1st low carbon city, when is moves to a hydrogen gas network, is this a good investment by the government and the regulator At this point, any progress in this direction is good progress. We've been twiddling our thumbs far too long on the issue and once some places implement policies that show that it's possible and economical, others will follow. Surprised with the amount of climate change deniers here though. Is it a Heartland foundation forum by any chance? "The term "Climate change" is Stupid and ignorant beyond believe ! Climate changes , has ,and will continue to change whether humans are here on this planet or not ! Its a natural consequence of an ever changing dynamic earth ! In fact.... humanity owes its existence to climate change ! 
If you remember some years back, it was termed as "global warming " ! They conveniently changed it to "climate Change" when it was found that there was no actual warming going on ! In fact some of the coldest winters were being experienced ,a counter-intuitive fact the masses realised !
Also the constant failure of the prediction of the so called Computer Climate models played a part .....oh and lets not forget Climategate !
Its funny that everybody knows we are in a inter glacial period , yet people forget what that implies !
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. " mmm.... yes 
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles !   | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! ". Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke. Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time "Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative ! Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire ! Nature is always right and self corrects ! Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue ! This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense ! CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some .... | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time
Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative !
Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire !
Nature is always right and self corrects
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Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue !
This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense !
CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some ....". We both agree but for different reasons! Anything to do with reducing c02 now is completely pointless, if somebody finds something thats green and better than oil, great I'm in, if not lets be realistic about it | |||
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"There is now and has been for a while a scientific consensus on climate change. It is happening. There is also a consensus that man is a significant factor. There area of debate is how much it is down to us, but they all agree we need to do something. I think it's about 97% of scientists in the field by the way. There are some kooks and some paid by oil companies with opposing views but these should obviously be discounted." BS !
There is no such thing as a consensus !
Those figures are BS , and even some of the "scientists" who were part of the "consensus" have abandoned ship !
Why ? because its supposed to be science, not religion ! its facts not believe!
By its very nature , and in order to progress , science has to be studied without prejudice , and challenged ! that's how knowledge evolves!
Remember the "consensus" and belief of Geocentricism ?
Are we still there ? Is the earth Flat ?
We would be ...if people had had the same attitude concerning Climate !
Back then , you would be burned for heresy !
Today the climate zealots take away your job or research funding and use the media to destroy your reputation, just for daring to question the "Consensus" religion !
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"How big is this cavern?" I do brkrive they are going to use old salt caverns in the same way they store CH4 in caverns to be used as load balancing Or they pump it back in the redundant oil wells again in the same way is currently used for demand balancing The gas network at Keele uni is going to be the initial trial zone, which is great for stoke and Staffordshire and should allow this local area to be at the forefront of this technology | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time
Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative !
Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire !
Nature is always right and self corrects
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Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue !
This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense !
CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some ...."Biggest problem with C02 is that it's collects in the ozone | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? " Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time ! 
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness.... | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time
Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative !
Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire !
Nature is always right and self corrects
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Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue !
This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense !
CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some .....
We both agree but for different reasons!
Anything to do with reducing c02 now is completely pointless, if somebody finds something thats green and better than oil, great I'm in, if not lets be realistic about it"CH4 is the most common form of heating in the U.K., very few properties actually heat by oil The Saudi only drill for oil as they are after the bugggest reward which lives below it They are actually after the diamonds and gold, the oil is just a profitable inconvenience for them | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time
Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative !
Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire !
Nature is always right and self corrects
!
Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue !
This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense !
CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some ....
Biggest problem with C02 is that it's collects in the ozone "But Co2 does not harm the ozone layer, other gasses do ! | |||
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"How big is this cavern? I do brkrive they are going to use old salt caverns in the same way they store CH4 in caverns to be used as load balancing Or they pump it back in the redundant oil wells again in the same way is currently used for demand balancing The gas network at Keele uni is going to be the initial trial zone, which is great for stoke and Staffordshire and should allow this local area to be at the forefront of this technology " . It sounds great but honestly its completely pointless, weve got shit loads of hydrocarbons all over the world, its chokka with the stuff. If there right were already fucked or very near to fucked, did i read 2036 was the very latest year for which we could be emitting co2? So if there right were fucked and we should now be spending on the consequences of our past actions and if there wrong were just wasting our time trying to do something thats not as efficient as oil and gas anyhow!.  | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness.... "Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. What does making your own soap have to do with climate change? | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change? "It saved on packaging and transportation | |||
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time
Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative !
Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire !
Nature is always right and self corrects
!
Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue !
This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense !
CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some ....
Biggest problem with C02 is that it's collects in the ozone
But Co2 does not harm the ozone layer, other gasses do ! "Cows are the biggest emitter, and totally inefficient | |||
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"https://youtu.be/FlIJTJWP6PQ For all those with no concept of how the carbon cycle works .Be warned it involves science. "2+2 Kane table | |||
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"https://youtu.be/FlIJTJWP6PQ For all those with no concept of how the carbon cycle works .Be warned it involves science. ". denial ain't just a river in Africa | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change? "Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things ! And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
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"Did they fuck its called the IPCC for fuck sake International panel on climate change, its been called that for like forever. mmm.... yes
IPCC ...International Panel for Climate Con !
Another group of nice people with cosy jobs living of us , always looking for new ways to charge us to mitigate something that is part of natures natural cycles ! .
Scientists say dont smoke theres a good chance it will kill you, if you smoke you know Whats coming but you choose to smoke.
Scientists say dont use hydrocarbons or if you do were all fucked in 50-100 years, we continued? That horse bolted 30 years ago, its like giving up smoking once youve got terminal, a waste of fucking time
Scientists say ..... Problem is they have no practical alternative !
Besides , we have been using hydrocarbons and other carbon producing fuels directly or indirectly in the form of combustion from the time man made fire !
Nature is always right and self corrects
!
Problem is if that correction is beneficial to us or not ! but that is another issue !
This CO2 mania is just plain nonsense !
CO2 is not a pollutant.. never has been ! ....but its an easy excuse to guilt us into schemes to making money for some ....
Biggest problem with C02 is that it's collects in the ozone
But Co2 does not harm the ozone layer, other gasses do !
Cows are the biggest emitter, and totally inefficient "Cows emit methane ... that is bad news for the ozone an its a green house gas too ! | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
"Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling? On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans. | |||
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" One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it ! Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
". We emmit 9000 tonnes a second. Do some maths and see how much that volcano would need to put out for ten years worth? | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans."Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle"A PhD? | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans."Well it seems pointless ! Your mind is made up , something demonstrated by the famous 97 vs 3% lie ! "You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink" Its a common tactic when one is out of common sense Argument , to hide behind the notion of the 97% scientists know better ! Guess what ? "Why ? because its supposed to be science, not religion ! its facts not believe! By its very nature , and in order to progress , science has to be studied without prejudice , and challenged ! that's how knowledge evolves! Remember the "consensus" and belief of Geocentricism ? Are we still there ? Is the earth Flat ? We would be ...if people had had the same attitude concerning Climate ! Back then , you would be burned for heresy !" Back then the consensus was 99.9% or more ! and guess who was right ?
Strength in numbers does not make something right , does it ?
By experience in live person to person debate in conferences I have attended , I am used to the, we have the data and know better , an argument believer "scientist " hide behind when corned by common sense questions that contradict them !
But its a lot harder with members of the cult like you apparently !
mmm... off to work now ....
By the way have you heard of Climate "archaeology" or forensic science ?
Ever wondered why Greenland got its name ? | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD? "I must tell him his life is worthless, as he has not obtained a PhD and obtaining a 1st was just an utter waste of time and a crock of shit Only PhD counts | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD? "Common sense and a degree suffices .... but you had to up the nonsense ...
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD? "His partner doesn't have a PhD but is trusted to teach the young of the nation, how can this be allowed Bloody hell we must all need a PhD, how do any of us function with out 1 Is it safe to go out and function with out a PhD? Do you breathe in or out?.., | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Well it seems pointless !
Your mind is made up , something demonstrated by the famous 97 vs 3% lie !
"You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"
Its a common tactic when one is out of common sense Argument , to hide behind the notion of the 97% scientists know better !
Guess what ?
"Why ? because its supposed to be science, not religion ! its facts not believe!
By its very nature , and in order to progress , science has to be studied without prejudice , and challenged ! that's how knowledge evolves!
Remember the "consensus" and belief of Geocentricism ?
Are we still there ? Is the earth Flat ?
We would be ...if people had had the same attitude concerning Climate !
Back then , you would be burned for heresy !"
Back then the consensus was 99.9% or more !
and guess who was right ?
Strength in numbers does not make something right , does it ?
By experience in live person to person debate in conferences I have attended , I am used to the, we have the data and know better , an argument believer "scientist " hide behind when corned by common sense questions that contradict them !
But its a lot harder with members of the cult like you apparently !
mmm... off to work now ....
By the way have you heard of Climate "archaeology" or forensic science ?
Ever wondered why Greenland got its name ? "You are talking complete bullshit about scientists hundred of years ago and about the names of countries.
No scientists are talking about faith or belief or any that crap, its just you throwing those things around to discredit people. So I will ask for a third time, what qualifications do you have in this field to say that PhDs and professors etc are incorrectly interpreting the data and incorrectly designing their experiments? | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Well it seems pointless !
Your mind is made up , something demonstrated by the famous 97 vs 3% lie !
"You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"
Its a common tactic when one is out of common sense Argument , to hide behind the notion of the 97% scientists know better !
Guess what ?
"Why ? because its supposed to be science, not religion ! its facts not believe!
By its very nature , and in order to progress , science has to be studied without prejudice , and challenged ! that's how knowledge evolves!
Remember the "consensus" and belief of Geocentricism ?
Are we still there ? Is the earth Flat ?
We would be ...if people had had the same attitude concerning Climate !
Back then , you would be burned for heresy !"
Back then the consensus was 99.9% or more !
and guess who was right ?
Strength in numbers does not make something right , does it ?
By experience in live person to person debate in conferences I have attended , I am used to the, we have the data and know better , an argument believer "scientist " hide behind when corned by common sense questions that contradict them !
But its a lot harder with members of the cult like you apparently !
mmm... off to work now ....
By the way have you heard of Climate "archaeology" or forensic science ?
Ever wondered why Greenland got its name ?
You are talking complete bullshit about scientists hundred of years ago and about the names of countries.
No scientists are talking about faith or belief or any that crap, its just you throwing those things around to discredit people. So I will ask for a third time, what qualifications do you have in this field to say that PhDs and professors etc are incorrectly interpreting the data and incorrectly designing their experiments? "Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD?
His partner doesn't have a PhD but is trusted to teach the young of the nation, how can this be allowed
Bloody hell we must all need a PhD, how do any of us function with out 1
Is it safe to go out and function with out a PhD?
Do you breathe in or out?..,"I'm going to assume that he doesn't have a PhD in the subject then? Depending on what level you are teaching at, you don't usually need a PhD to teach, why would you think that you would? Let's forget the PhD aspect as I think that is blinding some people to the actual point. Let's instead turn to what I think is your field of work, electrics and gas right? From your forum posts I am assuming that you have had training in the field, that you have received qualifications in the field and you have decades of experience in that field. Now if someone came along without training in it, without qualifications in it, and without experience in the field, would you believe much of what they had to say on the subject? | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Well it seems pointless !
Your mind is made up , something demonstrated by the famous 97 vs 3% lie !
"You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"
Its a common tactic when one is out of common sense Argument , to hide behind the notion of the 97% scientists know better !
Guess what ?
"Why ? because its supposed to be science, not religion ! its facts not believe!
By its very nature , and in order to progress , science has to be studied without prejudice , and challenged ! that's how knowledge evolves!
Remember the "consensus" and belief of Geocentricism ?
Are we still there ? Is the earth Flat ?
We would be ...if people had had the same attitude concerning Climate !
Back then , you would be burned for heresy !"
Back then the consensus was 99.9% or more !
and guess who was right ?
Strength in numbers does not make something right , does it ?
By experience in live person to person debate in conferences I have attended , I am used to the, we have the data and know better , an argument believer "scientist " hide behind when corned by common sense questions that contradict them !
But its a lot harder with members of the cult like you apparently !
mmm... off to work now ....
By the way have you heard of Climate "archaeology" or forensic science ?
Ever wondered why Greenland got its name ?
You are talking complete bullshit about scientists hundred of years ago and about the names of countries.
No scientists are talking about faith or belief or any that crap, its just you throwing those things around to discredit people. So I will ask for a third time, what qualifications do you have in this field to say that PhDs and professors etc are incorrectly interpreting the data and incorrectly designing their experiments? "You haven't responded re our middle son qualification, does a 1st count for nothing. Do only those holding a PhD qualify as worthy enough to form or have a view on global warming | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD?
His partner doesn't have a PhD but is trusted to teach the young of the nation, how can this be allowed
Bloody hell we must all need a PhD, how do any of us function with out 1
Is it safe to go out and function with out a PhD?
Do you breathe in or out?..,
I'm going to assume that he doesn't have a PhD in the subject then?
Depending on what level you are teaching at, you don't usually need a PhD to teach, why would you think that you would?
Let's forget the PhD aspect as I think that is blinding some people to the actual point. Let's instead turn to what I think is your field of work, electrics and gas right? From your forum posts I am assuming that you have had training in the field, that you have received qualifications in the field and you have decades of experience in that field. Now if someone came along without training in it, without qualifications in it, and without experience in the field, would you believe much of what they had to say on the subject? "Re our son yep he studied it, and in his opinion along with others who taught him at Manchester uni they dispute the global warming process Yeah some of it is man made, some is natural and parts of it are not actually fully understood by any body Unfortunately I don't have all of the answers, and as I say to my trainees it's easy for me to sound smart, it's merely repetition. Coupled with a knowledge of the subject Bloody hell I even know which questions they will most probably get wrong before they sit their test papers Simple rules for multiple guess Biggest answer is nearly always the right answer All of the above 99% of the time will be right True false always go true the 1st time if your unsure And read the bloody question, the question is nearly always in the 2nd paragraph KISS | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD?
His partner doesn't have a PhD but is trusted to teach the young of the nation, how can this be allowed
Bloody hell we must all need a PhD, how do any of us function with out 1
Is it safe to go out and function with out a PhD?
Do you breathe in or out?..,
I'm going to assume that he doesn't have a PhD in the subject then?
Depending on what level you are teaching at, you don't usually need a PhD to teach, why would you think that you would?
Let's forget the PhD aspect as I think that is blinding some people to the actual point. Let's instead turn to what I think is your field of work, electrics and gas right? From your forum posts I am assuming that you have had training in the field, that you have received qualifications in the field and you have decades of experience in that field. Now if someone came along without training in it, without qualifications in it, and without experience in the field, would you believe much of what they had to say on the subject? "Do you breathe in or breathe out? | |||
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"Tony, you sort of advocate critical thinking, which is great and to your credit, but I'm sorry to say you apply your own mantra really really badly. From some of your posts I think your judgement is very badly affected by a mindset that completely overpowers reason, I'm sorry to say. I'm not trying to be nasty because you seem a lovely guy, but you need to do a bit more on filtering out false equivalence and things like that. I think you might have a tendencies to believe conspiracy theories, am I right? There is healthy scepticism and unhealthy scepticism. Some people who think they are sceptics are actually very credulous. I think you need to apply the same standards, the same high bar to both sides of the arguments but I fear you cannot because your wiring predisposes you to distrust of authority. That has its place but I also think you like to be different, so rather than be suspicious of for example, a small number of scientists and studies that are paid by the vested interests of big oil and then look at the quality of the studies, results and conclusions, you are more suspicious of the huge number of experts in the field, better studies, evidence and peer reviews. I like you though. " Your analysis is correct in regards to two items : My critical thinking and my distrust of authority ! All else you are of the mark ! These traits derive from from my life experience , so are thus ingrained in me ! Now ,My not blindly believing all that some "experts" and authorities tell us is a healthy one ! we know they always tell us the truth ...or a lie ...always for our benefit ....right ? Fact is knowledge is a continuous process and no one knows or controls everything , and history is full o examples of scientific truths being replaced by new ones either because of some event or technical break through ! Think of what areas like medicine or astronomy ! Are we still working in those areas based on the Science of the 14th century ....or have we evolved ? Has the debate been settled in the case of our solar system ? How many planets are there ? Is Pluto a planet ? That discussion is ongoing ! Why because its science not the Church inspired belief and view , that got people killed for questioning the Consensus of the time ! Now, I am unusual in the sense I have an almost obsession to understand the world around me ! I have realised this is not common an sometimes even a burden ! A Person´s knowledge is not limited by having or not a PhD in something , it merely means he has specialised in that area ! As someone else mentioned on here you don't need to be particularly bright to have a degree on PhD! For the ones too lazy or not bothering to inform themselves , its easy to hide behind someone else's PhD ! I understand thinking is hard for some even a lot of Phd´s ! I personaly have come across some ! Its easy to accept the established mantra that you, for instance , believe that anybody in the scientific world that denies Climate change , is paid by the evil oil companies! So it seems you are buying into conspiracy theories, not me !
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Well it seems pointless !
Your mind is made up , something demonstrated by the famous 97 vs 3% lie !
"You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"
Its a common tactic when one is out of common sense Argument , to hide behind the notion of the 97% scientists know better !
Guess what ?
"Why ? because its supposed to be science, not religion ! its facts not believe!
By its very nature , and in order to progress , science has to be studied without prejudice , and challenged ! that's how knowledge evolves!
Remember the "consensus" and belief of Geocentricism ?
Are we still there ? Is the earth Flat ?
We would be ...if people had had the same attitude concerning Climate !
Back then , you would be burned for heresy !"
Back then the consensus was 99.9% or more !
and guess who was right ?
Strength in numbers does not make something right , does it ?
By experience in live person to person debate in conferences I have attended , I am used to the, we have the data and know better , an argument believer "scientist " hide behind when corned by common sense questions that contradict them !
But its a lot harder with members of the cult like you apparently !
mmm... off to work now ....
By the way have you heard of Climate "archaeology" or forensic science ?
Ever wondered why Greenland got its name ?
You are talking complete bullshit about scientists hundred of years ago and about the names of countries.
No scientists are talking about faith or belief or any that crap, its just you throwing those things around to discredit people. So I will ask for a third time, what qualifications do you have in this field to say that PhDs and professors etc are incorrectly interpreting the data and incorrectly designing their experiments? "Lol..... you have just proven how clueless you are ! You are projecting you own lack of knowledge on the subject ! You apparently assume that just You have very little knowledge on the subject others have to be like you !
Defenition of science :
"Science is the field of study concerned with discovering and describing the world around us by observing and experimenting. Biology, chemistry, and physics are all branches of science.
Science is an "empirical" field, that is, it develops a body of knowledge by observing things and performing experiments. The meticulous process of gathering and analyzing data is called the "scientific method," and we sometimes use science to describe the knowledge we already have. Science is also what's involved in the performance of something complicated: "the science of making a perfect soufflé."
I baited you to evaluate your knowledge , with the question regarding Greenland , and you proved me right !
But don't feel too bad !
I have used that trick with PhD´s Climate "scientist" and they fall for it too !
When I mention the word Greenland in connection with climate ... the default thought is...... melting ice sheets and Glaciers ! and... yet... the Vikings called it "Groenland" (Green land ), and settled there until it was possible ....so what drove them out ?
But I will give you one more.... what was The British isles climate like when the Romans invaded ?
Ever heard of "the little ice age" ?
Its one of those annoying periods that get the human climate change fanatics go berserk....because it doesn't fit BS studies that resulted in the famous ice hockey stick temp chart !
But don't take my word for it....
https://www.britannica.com/science/Little-Ice-Age
are they not credible enough... for you ?
mmm.... no fossil fuel being burned then...
Remember I mentioned Climate "archaeology" and climate influence on human progress ?
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/britannia/saxonadvent/climate.html
https://www.uibk.ac.at/geographie/forschung/dendro/publikationen---pdf-files/2012-mccormick-et-al-roman-climate-jih.pdf
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/10/global_warming_undermined_by_study_of_climate_change/
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22040-tree-rings-suggest-roman-world-was-warmer-than-thought/
Hope this is not too much information for your level ?
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" Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene She uses the word racist around you a lot does she? I am surprised. " She uses it a lot around anybody, but didn't mind bringing her Indian Muslim friend to my house for Christmas. And your next slur is?... | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle
A PhD?
His partner doesn't have a PhD but is trusted to teach the young of the nation, how can this be allowed
Bloody hell we must all need a PhD, how do any of us function with out 1
Is it safe to go out and function with out a PhD?
Do you breathe in or out?..,
I'm going to assume that he doesn't have a PhD in the subject then?
Depending on what level you are teaching at, you don't usually need a PhD to teach, why would you think that you would?
Let's forget the PhD aspect as I think that is blinding some people to the actual point. Let's instead turn to what I think is your field of work, electrics and gas right? From your forum posts I am assuming that you have had training in the field, that you have received qualifications in the field and you have decades of experience in that field. Now if someone came along without training in it, without qualifications in it, and without experience in the field, would you believe much of what they had to say on the subject? "It depends how knowledgeable they came across as being, if they are right they're right. If they just have Miss understanding we can talk it through and correct it If they no fuck all and profess to know everything they will struggle to pass out, But as I said are you saying my son is deluded in his views which are also backed up with lecturers who have Doctorates and PhD are they all made The earth has warmed up cooled down since Allah created it Or God for those who follow him in less than a week | |||
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"Tony, you sort of advocate critical thinking, which is great and to your credit, but I'm sorry to say you apply your own mantra really really badly. From some of your posts I think your judgement is very badly affected by a mindset that completely overpowers reason, I'm sorry to say. I'm not trying to be nasty because you seem a lovely guy, but you need to do a bit more on filtering out false equivalence and things like that. I think you might have a tendencies to believe conspiracy theories, am I right? There is healthy scepticism and unhealthy scepticism. Some people who think they are sceptics are actually very credulous. I think you need to apply the same standards, the same high bar to both sides of the arguments but I fear you cannot because your wiring predisposes you to distrust of authority. That has its place but I also think you like to be different, so rather than be suspicious of for example, a small number of scientists and studies that are paid by the vested interests of big oil and then look at the quality of the studies, results and conclusions, you are more suspicious of the huge number of experts in the field, better studies, evidence and peer reviews. I like you though. Your analysis is correct in regards to two items : My critical thinking and my distrust of authority ! All else you are of the mark ! These traits derive from from my life experience , so are thus ingrained in me ! Now ,My not blindly believing all that some "experts" and authorities tell us is a healthy one ! we know they always tell us the truth ...or a lie ...always for our benefit ....right ? Fact is knowledge is a continuous process and no one knows or controls everything , and history is full o examples of scientific truths being replaced by new ones either because of some event or technical break through ! Think of what areas like medicine or astronomy ! Are we still working in those areas based on the Science of the 14th century ....or have we evolved ? Has the debate been settled in the case of our solar system ? How many planets are there ? Is Pluto a planet ? That discussion is ongoing ! Why because its science not the Church inspired belief and view , that got people killed for questioning the Consensus of the time ! Now, I am unusual in the sense I have an almost obsession to understand the world around me ! I have realised this is not common an sometimes even a burden ! A Person´s knowledge is not limited by having or not a PhD in something , it merely means he has specialised in that area ! As someone else mentioned on here you don't need to be particularly bright to have a degree on PhD! For the ones too lazy or not bothering to inform themselves , its easy to hide behind someone else's PhD ! I understand thinking is hard for some even a lot of Phd´s ! I personaly have come across some ! Its easy to accept the established mantra that you, for instance , believe that anybody in the scientific world that denies Climate change , is paid by the evil oil companies! So it seems you are buying into conspiracy theories, not me !
"For me the climate change theory is still debatable, but as you have so eloquently said having a PhD does not make you some kind of living God who must be obeyed. I've met some very intelligent people who struggle reverse parking a car, and as for doing simple manual tasks, they are beyond belief | |||
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" Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene She uses the word racist around you a lot does she? I am surprised. She uses it a lot around anybody, but didn't mind bringing her Indian Muslim friend to my house for Christmas. And your next slur is?... " How is it racist to invite someone round for Christmas? If you often get accused of racism, even by friends and family, maybe you should stop blaming them, and think about what you are saying. | |||
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" Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene She uses the word racist around you a lot does she? I am surprised. She uses it a lot around anybody, but didn't mind bringing her Indian Muslim friend to my house for Christmas. And your next slur is?... How is it racist to invite someone round for Christmas? If you often get accused of racism, even by friends and family, maybe you should stop blaming them, and think about what you are saying. " So if I am a racist why would she ask me to accommodate somebody who isn't from the UK in my house for a family meal over Christmas And you've still not answered me re my son and his qualifications, and why only people who have a PhD are worthy of being listened to. Bloody hell my niece told me I as was lucky when grew up in comparison to her Indian friend who I welcomed in to our home. Because I had everything as a youngster Yeah I had everything, pass me down clothes an abusive alcoholic father a broken home 5 of us forced to sleep in 1 room I'm no racist, I love to travel live to experience other cultures Adore local food when travelling not tourist food Have spent time helping others from many different back grounds, but if you and others view me as a racist I can handle it, I'm big enough old enough and strong enough to take it After all this is just a shitty forum, nobody on here is part of my day to day life, nobody on here has any emotional ties for me. PS Last night I cooked this sea bass with coconut rice, probably nowhere near as good as your mrs can cook it, but I tried and trying in life is the most important thing ever Trying to help others who need helping Trying to reach out to those in genuine need. Trying to be a good father and partner and helping those you love and respect is more important than anybody's view on me in here could ever be | |||
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" Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene She uses the word racist around you a lot does she? I am surprised. She uses it a lot around anybody, but didn't mind bringing her Indian Muslim friend to my house for Christmas. And your next slur is?... How is it racist to invite someone round for Christmas? If you often get accused of racism, even by friends and family, maybe you should stop blaming them, and think about what you are saying. So if I am a racist why would she ask me to accommodate somebody who isn't from the UK in my house for a family meal over Christmas And you've still not answered me re my son and his qualifications, and why only people who have a PhD are worthy of being listened to. Bloody hell my niece told me I as was lucky when grew up in comparison to her Indian friend who I welcomed in to our home. Because I had everything as a youngster Yeah I had everything, pass me down clothes an abusive alcoholic father a broken home 5 of us forced to sleep in 1 room I'm no racist, I love to travel live to experience other cultures Adore local food when travelling not tourist food Have spent time helping others from many different back grounds, but if you and others view me as a racist I can handle it, I'm big enough old enough and strong enough to take it After all this is just a shitty forum, nobody on here is part of my day to day life, nobody on here has any emotional ties for me. PS Last night I cooked this sea bass with coconut rice, probably nowhere near as good as your mrs can cook it, but I tried and trying in life is the most important thing ever Trying to help others who need helping Trying to reach out to those in genuine need. Trying to be a good father and partner and helping those you love and respect is more important than anybody's view on me in here could ever be " But you are the one saying your niece is the one who calls you a racist, don't you have any emotional ties to her? Has your son done peer reviewed original work? | |||
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" Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene She uses the word racist around you a lot does she? I am surprised. She uses it a lot around anybody, but didn't mind bringing her Indian Muslim friend to my house for Christmas. And your next slur is?... How is it racist to invite someone round for Christmas? If you often get accused of racism, even by friends and family, maybe you should stop blaming them, and think about what you are saying. So if I am a racist why would she ask me to accommodate somebody who isn't from the UK in my house for a family meal over Christmas And you've still not answered me re my son and his qualifications, and why only people who have a PhD are worthy of being listened to. Bloody hell my niece told me I as was lucky when grew up in comparison to her Indian friend who I welcomed in to our home. Because I had everything as a youngster Yeah I had everything, pass me down clothes an abusive alcoholic father a broken home 5 of us forced to sleep in 1 room I'm no racist, I love to travel live to experience other cultures Adore local food when travelling not tourist food Have spent time helping others from many different back grounds, but if you and others view me as a racist I can handle it, I'm big enough old enough and strong enough to take it After all this is just a shitty forum, nobody on here is part of my day to day life, nobody on here has any emotional ties for me. PS Last night I cooked this sea bass with coconut rice, probably nowhere near as good as your mrs can cook it, but I tried and trying in life is the most important thing ever Trying to help others who need helping Trying to reach out to those in genuine need. Trying to be a good father and partner and helping those you love and respect is more important than anybody's view on me in here could ever be But you are the one saying your niece is the one who calls you a racist, don't you have any emotional ties to her? Has your son done peer reviewed original work? " Fucking hell you are unbelievable, you never answer any question put at you, just always come back with another question Your like a politician unable to answer anything I don't know about peer review, and as you say what's a degree without a PhD And my niece is a niece by default, gag I like her I think she needs to wake up and smell the coffeee and stop whinging every time she disagrees with some one. Needs to stop playing I have a degree card, needs to wind her neck in about Europe and how the vote has ruined her life. But hey that's just my view My real nephew is twat, didn't pay his rent, thinks that paying rent buys you a house,when actually it's merely an asset you rent, from the owner and paying rent doesn't mean that you get the money back on a monthly basis in alterations to the house that suits your personal wishes Just because peeps are family doesn't mean that you have to like them. So what qualifications do you posses and how do you put them to a good use?.. | |||
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" Or eldest niece has just qualified as a barrister but I wouldn't class her as particularly bright A good bull shitter who loves to use the word racist, but as for common sense, it has by passed her as has the work gene She uses the word racist around you a lot does she? I am surprised. She uses it a lot around anybody, but didn't mind bringing her Indian Muslim friend to my house for Christmas. And your next slur is?... How is it racist to invite someone round for Christmas? If you often get accused of racism, even by friends and family, maybe you should stop blaming them, and think about what you are saying. So if I am a racist why would she ask me to accommodate somebody who isn't from the UK in my house for a family meal over Christmas And you've still not answered me re my son and his qualifications, and why only people who have a PhD are worthy of being listened to. Bloody hell my niece told me I as was lucky when grew up in comparison to her Indian friend who I welcomed in to our home. Because I had everything as a youngster Yeah I had everything, pass me down clothes an abusive alcoholic father a broken home 5 of us forced to sleep in 1 room I'm no racist, I love to travel live to experience other cultures Adore local food when travelling not tourist food Have spent time helping others from many different back grounds, but if you and others view me as a racist I can handle it, I'm big enough old enough and strong enough to take it After all this is just a shitty forum, nobody on here is part of my day to day life, nobody on here has any emotional ties for me. PS Last night I cooked this sea bass with coconut rice, probably nowhere near as good as your mrs can cook it, but I tried and trying in life is the most important thing ever Trying to help others who need helping Trying to reach out to those in genuine need. Trying to be a good father and partner and helping those you love and respect is more important than anybody's view on me in here could ever be But you are the one saying your niece is the one who calls you a racist, don't you have any emotional ties to her? Has your son done peer reviewed original work? " As for peer reviews, when I did my PTTLs I answered every question accurately with out researching it. That wasn't good enough as I had to prove where my views had come from. Google something paste the link that did the trick!... Good enough you must know it as you have read it, you can't have listened to others or just have common sense that won't do.. Peer review is the king I you to work with a guy who was good at spouting shut about others to cover his own weaknesses, the main one being that he couldn't admit that he was wrong | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "Thank you for proving my point once again! You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " "Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one.. | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " "CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one.. "Hi Bob !
Was missing you on this one , and am not surprised you are an acolyte of the religion too!
I know you can actually read.....but..
Not surprised you prefer to ignore facts and info provided ..... but as I said before that is the difference between religion and science ! | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one..
Hi Bob !
Was missing you on this one , and am not surprised you are an acolyte of the religion too!
I know you can actually read.....but..
Not surprised you prefer to ignore facts and info provided ..... but as I said before that is the difference between religion and science ! "Tony i am surprised also. As someone who told me once he was an environmentalist yet is wilfully ignorant of the data on anthropogenic climate change and the carbon cycle. Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers. Ive known many climate deniers and the fanatism is always entertainment. Shame on you tony.. i expected more from you. Science tony..its a bitch.. | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one..
Hi Bob !
Was missing you on this one , and am not surprised you are an acolyte of the religion too!
I know you can actually read.....but..
Not surprised you prefer to ignore facts and info provided ..... but as I said before that is the difference between religion and science ! Tony i am surprised also. As someone who told me once he was an environmentalist yet is wilfully ignorant of the data on anthropogenic climate change and the carbon cycle.
Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers.
Ive known many climate deniers and the fanatism is always entertainment. Shame on you tony.. i expected more from you. Science tony..its a bitch.. "yes ! Science is bitch ... not religion , but you are treating as such ! "Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers." Yes ,back then those "flat earthers " had exactly the same attitude as you ! And look who was right ! I expected you to have the ability and open mind to at least consider questioning positions that have been manipulated (climategate), but it seems you are a true believer ! o
Your type of belief would be praised by the inquisition, if they were still around.... oh wait a minute... they are!
They have changed name ... to IPCC !
Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Con !  | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? Just let that sink in for a minute. You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one..
Hi Bob !
Was missing you on this one , and am not surprised you are an acolyte of the religion too!
I know you can actually read.....but..
Not surprised you prefer to ignore facts and info provided ..... but as I said before that is the difference between religion and science ! Tony i am surprised also. As someone who told me once he was an environmentalist yet is wilfully ignorant of the data on anthropogenic climate change and the carbon cycle.
Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers.
Ive known many climate deniers and the fanatism is always entertainment. Shame on you tony.. i expected more from you. Science tony..its a bitch..
yes ! Science is bitch ... not religion , but you are treating as such !
"Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers."
Yes ,back then those "flat earthers " had exactly the same attitude as you !
And look who was right !
I expected you to have the ability and open mind to at least consider questioning positions that have been manipulated (climategate), but it seems you are a true believer ! o
Your type of belief would be praised by the inquisition, if they were still around.... oh wait a minute... they are!
They have changed name ... to IPCC !
Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Con ! "Tony being open minded is good but dont let your brain fall out! The data is irrefutable. Nobody has produced a paper to challenge it ever!.Of course there is plenty of psuedo science on the net that will spoon feed you drivel tony but is it peer reviewed? Of course not tony its baseless opinions of conspiracy wack jobs..Shame on you.. | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? javascript:doSmilie('%20  ')Just let that sink in for a minute.
You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one..
Hi Bob !
Was missing you on this one , and am not surprised you are an acolyte of the religion too!
I know you can actually read.....but..
Not surprised you prefer to ignore facts and info provided ..... but as I said before that is the difference between religion and science ! Tony i am surprised also. As someone who told me once he was an environmentalist yet is wilfully ignorant of the data on anthropogenic climate change and the carbon cycle.
Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers.
Ive known many climate deniers and the fanatism is always entertainment. Shame on you tony.. i expected more from you. Science tony..its a bitch..
yes ! Science is bitch ... not religion , but you are treating as such !
"Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers."
Yes ,back then those "flat earthers " had exactly the same attitude as you !
And look who was right !
I expected you to have the ability and open mind to at least consider questioning positions that have been manipulated (climategate), but it seems you are a true believer ! o
Your type of belief would be praised by the inquisition, if they were still around.... oh wait a minute... they are!
They have changed name ... to IPCC !
Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Con ! Tony being open minded is good but dont let your brain fall out!
The data is irrefutable. Nobody has produced a paper to challenge it ever!.Of course there is plenty of psuedo science on the net that will spoon feed you drivel tony but is it peer reviewed? Of course not tony its baseless opinions of conspiracy wack jobs..Shame on you.."Really ? well here is a list of peer reviewd articles .... not that you would bother reading it .... your approach is religious , not scientific ! http://notrickszone.com/2011/03/30/robust-science-more-than-30-contradictory-pairs-of-peer-reviewed-papers/#sthash.B1G96jOS.3J2YfwQO.dpbs I do hate intellectual dishonesty and laziness! | |||
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"Tony you didn't bait me, or 'expose my ignorance' or anything else with regards to Greenland. You are ignoring thousands upon thousands of scientists, based on what the Vikings called somewhere. Really? javascript:doSmilie('%20 ')Just let that sink in for a minute.
You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said.
Thank you for proving my point once again!
You are not intellectually up to the task of discussing the subject , so you keep repeating your and hiding behind the "scientific" consensus BS !
Here is the evidence :
"You jump from approving of the scientific method, to scrapping it entirely and favouring what the Vikings said. "
Showing your ignorance that its one and the same thing ! so let me spell it out for you!
When the Vikings colonised the unknown place , it was fertile and green ideal for farming and especially cattle ! This was why they called it The "groenland" the Greenland !
Later due to change in climate ice sheets that existed in the northern and central parts of the island gradually covered the whole island ,with the exception of a few southern fiords, thus making the traditional farming way of life impossible !
Today its the melting of the mentioned ice sheets that allows archaeological evidence of this to be exposed , and yet its nowhere near the level where you could describe Greenland as a "green landscape" so temps are still not as high as they were back then....
But worse, I gave you Britain as a example of the well documented climate change phenomenon , but you either didn't read it , understand it, and /or purely ignored it !
Of course you might also question the qualifications of the people who did this research ....mmmmm I wonder if they had PhD´s!
Or maybe I made up all the info on those links !
You also ignored all the evidence of climate gate scandal , or any articles or views that contradict you "belief"
Both the Britain and Greenland examples clearly pose a challenge to the current current "man made global warming" mantra !
All you need is the time, reading ability , and a bit of thinking to realise the stories don't add up !No PhD needed !
But of course some are too lazy to think
for themselves !
But here is more evidence for you to ignore:
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2014/05/chatting-climate-heretic/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/03/craziness-in-climate-field-leads-dissenter-dr-judith-curry-to-resign-i-have-resigned-my-tenured-faculty-position-at-georgia-tech/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/02/06/whistleblower-noaa-scientists-manipulated-temperature-data-to-hype-global-warming/
Now let me see you continue to bury you head in the sand !
I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology!
As I said before "You probably one of those who still believe the Amazon rain forest is the world´s lungs.... " Tony climate change deniers haven't been able to cobble togeather a coherent alternative to anthropogenic climate change ever!. You might aswell tell everyone you saw a unicorn shitting glitter in your garden lastnight because climate denial as much validity.
Where is the alternative explanation that made it past peer review. .There isnt one..
Hi Bob !
Was missing you on this one , and am not surprised you are an acolyte of the religion too!
I know you can actually read.....but..
Not surprised you prefer to ignore facts and info provided ..... but as I said before that is the difference between religion and science ! Tony i am surprised also. As someone who told me once he was an environmentalist yet is wilfully ignorant of the data on anthropogenic climate change and the carbon cycle.
Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers.
Ive known many climate deniers and the fanatism is always entertainment. Shame on you tony.. i expected more from you. Science tony..its a bitch..
yes ! Science is bitch ... not religion , but you are treating as such !
"Dude there is no other game in town.Anthropogenic Climate change deniers are no better than flat earthers."
Yes ,back then those "flat earthers " had exactly the same attitude as you !
And look who was right !
I expected you to have the ability and open mind to at least consider questioning positions that have been manipulated (climategate), but it seems you are a true believer ! o
Your type of belief would be praised by the inquisition, if they were still around.... oh wait a minute... they are!
They have changed name ... to IPCC !
Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Con ! Tony being open minded is good but dont let your brain fall out!
The data is irrefutable. Nobody has produced a paper to challenge it ever!.Of course there is plenty of psuedo science on the net that will spoon feed you drivel tony but is it peer reviewed? Of course not tony its baseless opinions of conspiracy wack jobs..Shame on you..
Really ? well here is a list of peer reviewd articles .... not that you would bother reading it .... your approach is religious , not scientific !
http://notrickszone.com/2011/03/30/robust-science-more-than-30-contradictory-pairs-of-peer-reviewed-papers/#sthash.B1G96jOS.3J2YfwQO.dpbs
I do hate intellectual dishonesty and laziness! "You don't have to be a scientist to see that most of the so-called climate skepticism out there is complete bollocks.Youve decided to use well known climate denier pierre Gosselin Who runs no trick zone. The guy who thinks its all down to the sun cycles.Another fanatic.
Tony if 9 out 10 doctors told you you had cancer would you search for the one who told you you didn't? Can you also please pull the exact paper that directly denies any correlation with man and climate.I couldnt find it.
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"Over the 4.5 billion years the planet has been in existence it has see-sawed between many extremes. From "snowball Earth" during serious ice ages...to sweltering tropical heat (Carboniferous Era) when most of the coal/oil reserves were formed). The Earths orbit, changing tilt etc. The phases the sun goes through are all much greater influences on climate. Even in recent times we had periods of cold (check out the ice fairs that were held on a frozen solid Thames for months on end). Periods of greater warmth....the Romans had vineyards in Northumberland. And no-one died. There was no mass extinction. However the over exploitation of resources, the pollution of vast areas of land and of our oceans could and should be a greater area for concern. As others have said...the chance of humankind giving up hydrocarbon fuel (until it physically runs out) is pretty close to zero!" . You know that really hot carboniferous period that your talking about with all the plants, when all the oil was made!. What do you think the atmosphere would have needed to grow them all? Im no scientist but im a farmer and i reckon thered need alot more c02 in the atmosphere to grow plants, trees and algae everywhere? So they absorbed the high levels of c02 and enriched the oxygen content, the guy before was talking about carbon capture and storage in caverns, well this is the perfect case in point,co2 caught by plants and stored underground as oil. Now weve dug the oil up and released the stored c02 from 700 million years ago, its obvious to me where the climate will go, back to the carboniferous period. I dont disagree with your assumption though that this green energy stuff is a complete waste of time, the IPCC already said in 1988 we had a ten year window to fix it, were well past 1998 now and even the latest research shows by 2036 its all over, so why the fuck bother, its just more government nonsense to make everybody feel like somethings been done about it?. | |||
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"Out of interest Tony, what are you scientific qualifications? Why is that relevant ? I am well read on the subject , and have been involve in environmental projects since my youth, specifically in the area of alternative energy ! As an example I have run my home "fleet" on home made biodiesel ! Make soap and other products from the by product, Glycerine! My problem is too many hobbies and not enough time !
Reality is today with ease access to information via the internet, anybody who wants to can review and analyse any info that the establishment throws at us !
The only excuse for not being informed is lack of time or laziness....
Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions.
What does making your own soap have to do with climate change?
Lol.... perhaps soap helps me have a cleaner view of things !
And besides ...you said it yourself !
"Well it is relevant if you say you are reviewing the same data that PhDs are reviewing and coming to different conclusions. "
I am not the only one doing that ! A lot of other PhDs are reaching different conclusions !
But if it was just about reviewing data , it would be easy ! Problem is when that data and reality don't add up ! And you don't have to have a degree to see that !
One example is why there were radical climate change cycles when man was not using fossil fuels ! They cant explain it !
Or make sense of the fact that there is a enormous effort and cost put into lowering carbon emissions , to then have a volcano erupt and put into the atmosphere ten times more harmful gasses
in one week then we were producing in one year !
But hey ... who am I right ?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/#1a7c75af4c7c
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/climate-scientists-admit-climate-models-are-wrong/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Right, so you twisting and turning now, before it was about reviewing data, now you are claiming that the experiments designed by PhDs are fundamentally flawed. I asked you this before, but you didn't answer. What qualifies you to say that they are doing it wrong? What qualifications and professional experience have you got in climate modelling?
On your point that there are a lot of PhDs coming to different conclusions, that is a straight up lie and you know it. Maybe 3% are questioning it, and 97% are saying, no the data is very clear that climate change we are currently experiencing is real, and its caused by humans.
Our middle son has a degree in environmental science and he says it's the natural earth cycle"FFS IM SICK OF BULLSHITTERS PULLING THIS CRAP. CLIMATE CHANGE IS A NATURAL PROCESS. HENCE WHY WE HAVE HAD MOMENTS WHERE ANTARCTICA WAS A FUCKING TEMPERATE FOREST. CLIMATE FLUCTUATES DUE TO BIOLOGICAL AND GEOLOGICAL PROCESSES WITHIN THE EARTHS BIOSPHERE - THE EVOLUTION OF ALGAE FOR EXAMPLE, SNOWBALL EARTH BEING ANOTHER. CLIMATE IS ALSO EFFECTED BY EXTERNAL PROCESSES. EG THAT METEORITE THAT WIPED OUT THE DINOSAURS. HOWEVER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE POLITICALLY WE TEND TO TALK ABOUT 'ANTHROPEGENIC' CLIMATE CHANGE. ANTHROPEGENIC GIVING CONTEXT TO HUMAN IMPACT INCREASING THE RATE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. I REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND. HERE IS WHAT I TEACH KIDS ON THE SUBJECT WHEN THEY STRUGGLE TO GET IT. You have two cars. A sports car and a crappy second hand old banger. Both will get to 60mph. But the sports car is going to get there faster. The sports car consumes fuel at a more rapid rate to do this. As such the sports car is like the earth with humans on their current consumption of hydrocarbons. | |||
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"I just googled the Paris thingy scientific advise by the experts. 85% reduction in c02 by 2036 A limit that we should not cross the 2 degree warming of the pre industrial age BUT we really shouldnt cross 1.5 degrees if we dont want climate chaos, it then says were already at 1.1 degrees above!. 85% reduction in 19 years!!!. Get the fuck out of here, theres fucking Bob hope and no hope, what a waste of fucking money and time that Leeds bullshit is" Agreed. When I saw this published locally I wrote to all the mps in the leeds district and said it was a waste of money and would have been suitable in the 90's at best. | |||
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""Tony if 9 out 10 doctors told you you had cancer would you search for the one who told you you didn't? Can you also please pull the exact paper that directly denies any correlation with man and climate.I couldnt find it." lol....Of course not ! Its not a simple subject, but its a simpleton´s approach to think anything related to climate and nature can boil down to one cause or factor ! Its way more complex then that , and inversely I could ask you for evidence one single factor that ties global warming to human causes ! But I know better then that ! its ridiculous to expect science to be limited to one factor, as it very , very seldom is ! Almost as if there is only one side to any story ! No matter how much you try to hide this cat....the tail keeps sticking out !
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/31/the-ipccs-latest-report-deliberately-excludes-and-misrepresents-important-climate-science/#4d4dfd9f428e"Ice cores dont twist the truth They prove the carbon cycle was balanced for tens of thousands of years ...until the industrial revolution. .then boom a spike for the next 100 years..its small amounts of carbon that's built up overtime .Fossil fuels are trapped carbon which we are adding to the natural carbon cycle which has a capacity to absorb some extra but not all. Hence we see additional c02 in the atmosphere.Its a very well understood process. | |||
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""Tony if 9 out 10 doctors told you you had cancer would you search for the one who told you you didn't? Can you also please pull the exact paper that directly denies any correlation with man and climate.I couldnt find it." lol....Of course not ! Its not a simple subject, but its a simpleton´s approach to think anything related to climate and nature can boil down to one cause or factor ! Its way more complex then that , and inversely I could ask you for evidence one single factor that ties global warming to human causes ! But I know better then that ! its ridiculous to expect science to be limited to one factor, as it very , very seldom is ! Almost as if there is only one side to any story ! No matter how much you try to hide this cat....the tail keeps sticking out !
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/31/the-ipccs-latest-report-deliberately-excludes-and-misrepresents-important-climate-science/#4d4dfd9f428e Ice cores dont twist the truth
They prove the carbon cycle was balanced for tens of thousands of years ...until the industrial revolution. .then boom a spike for the next 100 years..its small amounts of carbon that's built up overtime .Fossil fuels are trapped carbon which we are adding to the natural carbon cycle which has a capacity to absorb some extra but not all. Hence we see additional c02 in the atmosphere.Its a very well understood process."yes... I know you drank the cool aid, and nothing will change your mind ! In fact its closed. Jesus! don't tell me you also believe that Co2 rise contributes to global warming too ! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather! "Lol.... where did I do that ?
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless..... "I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross" You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious. | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious. "It's a serious question, do you breathe in or out? | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious. "I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us And seriously do you breathe in or out | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious.
I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us
And seriously do you breathe in or out"I don't discuss what qualifications I have on this forum. All living creature respire, so I don't really understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your question. | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts? "I know what I wrote ! The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
"Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing "Now you are being pathetic ! You are either d*unk or on something! lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was ! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was ! "Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up. | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up. "stop running away ... man up ! I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim! Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote! You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator ! So an apology is in order ! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order ! "You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change? | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change? "Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise ! | |||
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"Tony, you either don't really understand the scientific method and critical thinking, or apply it very very badly, due to the overarching psychological biases in your psyche, a product of evolution. * We all have these but applying the scientific method to your own thought processes, including giving full weight to hypthosis, methodology and especially an appreciation of statistical significance when it comes to data including the unsupportive studies in particular and the quality of them, will help you overcome many of them. *see also brexit. " Come fille , don't try and create a distraction from the fact that CLCC has screwed up and is lying trying to pretend I said something I didn't ! I mean, disagreement is one thing, its normal on here , but lying and dishonesty is different !
How would you feel if I "put words" in your mouth to make you look silly , by alleging you had posted something , that you in fact had not !
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"Tony, you either don't really understand the scientific method and critical thinking, or apply it very very badly, due to the overarching psychological biases in your psyche, a product of evolution. * We all have these but applying the scientific method to your own thought processes, including giving full weight to hypthosis, methodology and especially an appreciation of statistical significance when it comes to data including the unsupportive studies in particular and the quality of them, will help you overcome many of them. *see also brexit. Come fille , don't try and create a distraction from the fact that CLCC has screwed up and is lying trying to pretend I said something I didn't ! I mean, disagreement is one thing, its normal on here , but lying and dishonesty is different !
How would you feel if I "put words" in your mouth to make you look silly , by alleging you had posted something , that you in fact had not !
"It's annoying but if you follow the forums you will notice they do this all the time in an attemt to provoke abuse from people. | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise ! "Good luck with that Tony, hope you did't wait up for the apology  | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious.
I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us
And seriously do you breathe in or out
I don't discuss what qualifications I have on this forum.
All living creature respire, so I don't really understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your question. "So no qualifications- no shame in that. I don't think they are essential for flipping burgers. And you don't know if you breathe in or out | |||
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"Tony, you either don't really understand the scientific method and critical thinking, or apply it very very badly, due to the overarching psychological biases in your psyche, a product of evolution. * We all have these but applying the scientific method to your own thought processes, including giving full weight to hypthosis, methodology and especially an appreciation of statistical significance when it comes to data including the unsupportive studies in particular and the quality of them, will help you overcome many of them. *see also brexit. Come fille , don't try and create a distraction from the fact that CLCC has screwed up and is lying trying to pretend I said something I didn't ! I mean, disagreement is one thing, its normal on here , but lying and dishonesty is different !
How would you feel if I "put words" in your mouth to make you look silly , by alleging you had posted something , that you in fact had not !
It's annoying but if you follow the forums you will notice they do this all the time in an attemt to provoke abuse from people. "They then run to teacher and say miss, the boy keeps looking at me and saying naughty things | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious.
I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us
And seriously do you breathe in or out
I don't discuss what qualifications I have on this forum.
All living creature respire, so I don't really understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your question.
So no qualifications- no shame in that. I don't think they are essential for flipping burgers.
And you don't know if you breathe in or out "I will simply it for CLCC The diaphragm below your lungs expels the 19.5% of the O2 that you don't use, along with all of the other waste gases. Diaphragm relaxes, lungs fall back in to place, and atmospheric pressure typically at 1014mbars re-inflates your lungs with air 20.5% O2 67% nitrogen and mix of other gases The physical action is the breathing out, its atmospheric pressure that re-inflates our lungs for us, so you only actually breathe out!... Of course should the O2 level fall below 19.5% you might find your self in some difficulty, hence the reason some races have larger nostrils. 30ppm of CO is deemed safe to work in for up to hours. 12500ppm of CO and you will be dead in 2-3 minutes, but hey it's a nice way to go, you will look very healthy if you die from CO poisoning. | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious.
I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us
And seriously do you breathe in or out
I don't discuss what qualifications I have on this forum.
All living creature respire, so I don't really understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your question.
So no qualifications- no shame in that. I don't think they are essential for flipping burgers.
And you don't know if you breathe in or out "CLCC the person who demands facts and personal qualifications from others, but is unable to give any about himself My mate nearly pissed him about your views and the working relationships between contractors and RSL, but he finished off with what would he no as in my mate, after all he is just coming up to 65 years of age and has always worked in the sector as a Ops Director | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise ! "No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate. | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate. "That is not an apology or a quote !Is it? Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic "Don't worry Tony CLCC is still trying to breathe out and in like he using some sort of on demand regulator | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic "I shouldn't have to quote you Tony, can't you remember what you wrote? Just scroll up and read it. | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
I shouldn't have to quote you Tony, can't you remember what you wrote? Just scroll up and read it. "Stop evading the issue !
You wrote :
"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!"
So show me where I did that ! Simple !
Not a lot of work ...just copy paste ! Duh ! Can you do that ? | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic "Can't believe it took you that long to work it out | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out "
You are right !
I have to loose the habit of overestimating some peoples intelligence and honesty! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out "Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather! "lol... keep digging .... you doing a great job ! Now you are trying to infect others with your lies and delusion .... but I suppose you think if you keep running long enough people will forget about the lie you are repeating....
Of course it could be that you are implying easyas69 cant read , or like you misreads , or doesn't understand what he reads !
Is that that your point ? | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious.
I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us
And seriously do you breathe in or out
I don't discuss what qualifications I have on this forum.
All living creature respire, so I don't really understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your question.
So no qualifications- no shame in that. I don't think they are essential for flipping burgers.
And you don't know if you breathe in or out
CLCC the person who demands facts and personal qualifications from others, but is unable to give any about himself
My mate nearly pissed him about your views and the working relationships between contractors and RSL, but he finished off with what would he no as in my mate, after all he is just coming up to 65 years of age and has always worked in the sector as a Ops Director "I don't really understand why you are so ashamed to be an electrician and have to instead tell people you work in social housing when you have said that most people in social housing are scum. | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather!
lol... keep digging .... you doing a great job !
Now you are trying to infect others with your lies and delusion .... but I suppose you think if you keep running long enough people will forget about the lie you are repeating....
Of course it could be that you are implying easyas69 cant read , or like you misreads , or doesn't understand what he reads !
Is that that your point ? "Yeah Tony, it's all lies, you haven't mentioned weather at all! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather!
lol... keep digging .... you doing a great job !
Now you are trying to infect others with your lies and delusion .... but I suppose you think if you keep running long enough people will forget about the lie you are repeating....
Of course it could be that you are implying easyas69 cant read , or like you misreads , or doesn't understand what he reads !
Is that that your point ?
Yeah Tony, it's all lies, you haven't mentioned weather at all! "You keep running from your blunder....And now the trick is to question if I mentioned the weather or not! But I saw you did something similar in another thread , an thus conclude you cant read or have some mental impairment! So I will treat you like a five year old... or a mentally handicapped person and repeat what you wrote !
I will quote you in capital letters to make it easier for you to read ;
" I LOVE THE WAY THAT TONY IS TRYING TO SAY HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THE SUBJECT BUT IS GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
So I ask again !
Where did I confuse CLIMATE with WEATHER ?
Is that simple enough for you ? | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather!
lol... keep digging .... you doing a great job !
Now you are trying to infect others with your lies and delusion .... but I suppose you think if you keep running long enough people will forget about the lie you are repeating....
Of course it could be that you are implying easyas69 cant read , or like you misreads , or doesn't understand what he reads !
Is that that your point ?
Yeah Tony, it's all lies, you haven't mentioned weather at all!
You keep running from your blunder....And now the trick is to question if I mentioned the weather or not!
But I saw you did something similar in another thread , an thus conclude you cant read or have some mental impairment!
So I will treat you like a five year old... or a mentally handicapped person and repeat what you wrote !
I will quote you in capital letters to make it easier for you to read ;
" I LOVE THE WAY THAT TONY IS TRYING TO SAY HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THE SUBJECT BUT IS GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
So I ask again !
Where did I confuse CLIMATE with WEATHER ?
Is that simple enough for you ? "In the thread about CLIMATE, where you started talking about the WEATHER! | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather!
lol... keep digging .... you doing a great job !
Now you are trying to infect others with your lies and delusion .... but I suppose you think if you keep running long enough people will forget about the lie you are repeating....
Of course it could be that you are implying easyas69 cant read , or like you misreads , or doesn't understand what he reads !
Is that that your point ?
Yeah Tony, it's all lies, you haven't mentioned weather at all!
You keep running from your blunder....And now the trick is to question if I mentioned the weather or not!
But I saw you did something similar in another thread , an thus conclude you cant read or have some mental impairment!
So I will treat you like a five year old... or a mentally handicapped person and repeat what you wrote !
I will quote you in capital letters to make it easier for you to read ;
" I LOVE THE WAY THAT TONY IS TRYING TO SAY HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THE SUBJECT BUT IS GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
So I ask again !
Where did I confuse CLIMATE with WEATHER ?
Is that simple enough for you ?
In the thread about CLIMATE, where you started talking about the WEATHER! "Really ! Show us where ! You Said I was "GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!" So quote me on it ?
By the way ... I have deciphered what CLCC stands for !
C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity | |||
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Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can! | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can! "mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there ! | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there ! "Don't you know what that word means? | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means? "Jesus, how childish can you be ? Still trying to divert attention from the facts! CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity) Dont project your own ignorance on others ! | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others ! "You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony "lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later ! | |||
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" CLCC is like Corbyn, a great protester but couldn't lead my dig around the block Never answers and questions posed at him, but will always come back with another one aimed at you and what you have written. Its like chatting with the loon in the pub, who keeps on and on with the same dross You're right, I'm not going to answer questions like "do you breathe in and out". I also thought that it was trivial to answer your other question about does completing a bachelors degree mean you know more than someone who has completed a PhD in the same field. I thought it was fairly obvious.
I have no idea, what if any qualifications you have, and I don't know what area you specialise in, may be you can enlighten us
And seriously do you breathe in or out
I don't discuss what qualifications I have on this forum.
All living creature respire, so I don't really understand what kind of point you are trying to make with your question.
So no qualifications- no shame in that. I don't think they are essential for flipping burgers.
And you don't know if you breathe in or out
CLCC the person who demands facts and personal qualifications from others, but is unable to give any about himself
My mate nearly pissed him about your views and the working relationships between contractors and RSL, but he finished off with what would he no as in my mate, after all he is just coming up to 65 years of age and has always worked in the sector as a Ops Director
I don't really understand why you are so ashamed to be an electrician and have to instead tell people you work in social housing when you have said that most people in social housing are scum. "I'm not a sparkie by trade, never have been and I'm definitely too old to learn the skill I'm ok part P basic repairs fault finding on electrics but have never been a sparkie If I was I wouldn't be ashamed to be one. My mate had to attend a tenants meeting on Thursday night. I said who plans a tenbants meeting on a Thursday before a good Friday bank holiday weekend He say they are on holiday Monday to Monday Lol | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather!
lol... keep digging .... you doing a great job !
Now you are trying to infect others with your lies and delusion .... but I suppose you think if you keep running long enough people will forget about the lie you are repeating....
Of course it could be that you are implying easyas69 cant read , or like you misreads , or doesn't understand what he reads !
Is that that your point ?
Yeah Tony, it's all lies, you haven't mentioned weather at all!
You keep running from your blunder....And now the trick is to question if I mentioned the weather or not!
But I saw you did something similar in another thread , an thus conclude you cant read or have some mental impairment!
So I will treat you like a five year old... or a mentally handicapped person and repeat what you wrote !
I will quote you in capital letters to make it easier for you to read ;
" I LOVE THE WAY THAT TONY IS TRYING TO SAY HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THE SUBJECT BUT IS GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
So I ask again !
Where did I confuse CLIMATE with WEATHER ?
Is that simple enough for you ?
In the thread about CLIMATE, where you started talking about the WEATHER!
Really ! Show us where !
You Said I was "GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
So quote me on it ?
By the way ... I have deciphered what CLCC stands for !
C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity "Nice 1 | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means? "Still breathing out and in, still using an on demand regulator | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony
lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later ! "Careful Tony don't upset the wizard, or else either he or his supports will ask to have you banned, the guy is a fucking liar does it all the time Thinks I'm a sparkie, because I train dual fuel installers, when the GSMR play a more important part in my skill set. I even said I was a British Gas apprentice for 3 years lol | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony
lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later !
Careful Tony don't upset the wizard, or else either he or his supports will ask to have you banned, the guy is a fucking liar does it all the time
Thinks I'm a sparkie, because I train dual fuel installers, when the GSMR play a more important part in my skill set. I even said I was a British Gas apprentice for 3 years lol"You make up a new career every 5 minutes, no one can keep up with what you do! You said you worked with refugees once! | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony
lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later !
Careful Tony don't upset the wizard, or else either he or his supports will ask to have you banned, the guy is a fucking liar does it all the time
Thinks I'm a sparkie, because I train dual fuel installers, when the GSMR play a more important part in my skill set. I even said I was a British Gas apprentice for 3 years lol
You make up a new career every 5 minutes, no one can keep up with what you do! You said you worked with refugees once! "Nope never said I work with refugees, I said I visit the homes that they and others live to carry out audit inspections, which even you must agree is different than working with refugees After all as you have said I'm a classy fireman You should try a day or 2 in real world, get out there knock a bit of work out!.,, | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony
lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later !
Careful Tony don't upset the wizard, or else either he or his supports will ask to have you banned, the guy is a fucking liar does it all the time
Thinks I'm a sparkie, because I train dual fuel installers, when the GSMR play a more important part in my skill set. I even said I was a British Gas apprentice for 3 years lol
You make up a new career every 5 minutes, no one can keep up with what you do! You said you worked with refugees once!
Nope never said I work with refugees, I said I visit the homes that they and others live to carry out audit inspections, which even you must agree is different than working with refugees
After all as you have said I'm a classy fireman
You should try a day or 2 in real world, get out there knock a bit of work out!.,,"It is indeed different to working with refugees, and its also different to what you said
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony
lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later !
Careful Tony don't upset the wizard, or else either he or his supports will ask to have you banned, the guy is a fucking liar does it all the time
Thinks I'm a sparkie, because I train dual fuel installers, when the GSMR play a more important part in my skill set. I even said I was a British Gas apprentice for 3 years lol
You make up a new career every 5 minutes, no one can keep up with what you do! You said you worked with refugees once!
Nope never said I work with refugees, I said I visit the homes that they and others live to carry out audit inspections, which even you must agree is different than working with refugees
After all as you have said I'm a classy fireman
You should try a day or 2 in real world, get out there knock a bit of work out!.,,
It is indeed different to working with refugees, and its also different to what you said
I can guarantee that I work harder than you do. "I'm sure you can lol | |||
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"I love the way that Tony is trying to say he knows a lot about this subject but is getting confused between climate and weather!
Lol.... where did I do that ?
You on the other hand have proved you are clueless.....
I have proved I'm clueless by listening to experts using the scientific method instead of vikings?
Can't you even read your own posts about weather forecasts?
I know what I wrote !
The sad thing is you even got hat mixed up !
I wonder how much do I have to simplify things , so you can understand them ?
But please .... show me where I went wrong , or wrote wrong on the subject ?
Dont just mention it ! Quote me on my mistake regarding weather forecasts?
Tony, the climate and the weather aren't the same thing
Now you are being pathetic !
You are either d*unk or on something!
lol... where did I say t was ?
SHOW me where I said it was !
Sorry if the topic is too confusing for you. Don't worry, a lot of people get them mixed up.
stop running away ... man up !
I repeat ! Show me and all the posters on this thread where I did what you claim!
Anyone going back and reading what I wrote , will not find what you say i wrote!
You cant quote me , can you ? Because , I didn't and you just exposed yourself as a liar and agitator !
So an apology is in order !
You don't think anyone can see you talking about the weather on a thread about climate change?
Deflecting and running again, are We
Show me where I did that !
Come on, quote me ! or apologise !
No of course Tony, you didn't mention anything about the weather on a thread about climate.
That is not an apology or a quote !Is it?
Its a bit like if someone said you are lying ,despicable ignorant, nitwits spewing out stupidity , and trolling the forums..... but Then ending the phrase with or... maybe not !
Now you are trying to distract everyone from your false statement , by giving short misleading replies but not owning up to your lie !
Grow up ! Admit you were wrong!
No wonder your not taken seriously !
From what other posters are saying this is a usual trait of yours!
I suppose when you have no valid argument to present or the brains to come up with one, you resort to making things up ..... How sad ....and pathetic
Can't believe it took you that long to work it out
Oh god, don't tell me there is another one who cant see tony talking about the weather! "Can't be arsed to look but I do know you have a complete inability to comprehend what you read, then divert attention rather than admit your error. So I am stepping back and enjoying reading Tony giving you an arse whooping. Like all those of us that can be borhered have at some point or another but you've never realised as you can't comprehend | |||
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"Tony, if you don't believe that the weather and climate are the same thing, then why did you conflate GETTING CONFUSED BETWEEN CLIMATE AND THE WEATHER!"
Can you see now how this shows your confusion between the two? Everyone else can!
mmmm..... my using fancy words like conflate ! Is that to seem clever ?
But you are still trying to muddle what I said ! its Easy !!!
Just quote me !
I did not "conflate" "The ability to predict the weather with the ability to predict climate change"
But now it seems You believe weather and climate are the same....
And no .... thus far only you seem to see something that isn't there !
Don't you know what that word means?
Jesus, how childish can you be ?
Still trying to divert attention from the facts!
CLCC Indeed ! (C- Couple L- Lacking C-Cognitive C-Capacity)
Dont project your own ignorance on others !
You dont know what the word mean, or the difference between weather and climate, or why the ability to predict one is is not linked to the ability to predict the other, yet you call me ignorant. Ok tony
lol....you are doing a great job of proving your ignorance yourself !
Its ridiculous to think, that even if one didn't know the meaning of he word , a simple online dictionary would solve that instantly !
Then you insist more BS about your confusion , not mine, about Climate and weather !
So I will quote What I said on the post in question And leave it up to all on here with a brain to judge !
"I am still amazed on how gullible some people are !
Weather forecasts are only fairly accurate for about 3 days , and after that accurate predicting degrades!
That is with all the records , sat imaging computing etc !
Yet Some believe in the accuracy of climate prediction models , and climate is a lot more complex then local meteorology! "
Now... I am merely comparing the complexity of TWO different things ! Climate and weather !
Climate being exponentially complex and not yet as well understood in comparison to weather forecasting that is by comparison, simpler, and has been used for a while !
Yet the accuraccy of weather forecasts has great limitations !
Yet, some believe blindly in computer models predicting future Climate and that is not a very logical thing is it ? !
To sum it up for dummies :
Weather forecasting- less complex- easier to predict- but they still get it wrong ! Only takes a day to realise its wrong
Climate prediction models - Very complex
new area , and it takes decades to verify if predictions were correct!
Got it NOW CLCC Couple Lacking Cognitive Capacity ?
Hope you got it by the time I get back from work !
See you later !
Careful Tony don't upset the wizard, or else either he or his supports will ask to have you banned, the guy is a fucking liar does it all the time
Thinks I'm a sparkie, because I train dual fuel installers, when the GSMR play a more important part in my skill set. I even said I was a British Gas apprentice for 3 years lol
You make up a new career every 5 minutes, no one can keep up with what you do! You said you worked with refugees once!
Nope never said I work with refugees, I said I visit the homes that they and others live to carry out audit inspections, which even you must agree is different than working with refugees
After all as you have said I'm a classy fireman
You should try a day or 2 in real world, get out there knock a bit of work out!.,,
It is indeed different to working with refugees, and its also different to what you said
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"Tony there was a programme on Radio 4 today about the etymology of country names, one of the countries discussed was Greenland. It turns out that the country/island wasn't Green, but Erik the Red wanted other people to help him settle the island, so he lied and told them it was Green so they would help him. If he had told them it was freezing and covered in ice they might not have been so keen to join him. You should check it out on iPlayer. " Lol..... and you believe that !
Thats an old story !
But it makes for good entertainment , specially because the idea makes sense !
However it doesn't fit with the evidence !
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"Tony, you either don't really understand the scientific method and critical thinking, or apply it very very badly, due to the overarching psychological biases in your psyche, a product of evolution. * We all have these but applying the scientific method to your own thought processes, including giving full weight to hypthosis, methodology and especially an appreciation of statistical significance when it comes to data including the unsupportive studies in particular and the quality of them, will help you overcome many of them. *see also brexit. Come fille , don't try and create a distraction from the fact that CLCC has screwed up and is lying trying to pretend I said something I didn't ! I mean, disagreement is one thing, its normal on here , but lying and dishonesty is different !
How would you feel if I "put words" in your mouth to make you look silly , by alleging you had posted something , that you in fact had not !
"No distraction and I wasn't getting involved in your argument with _lcc. You are unable to process data disinterested way, as the scientific method requires. We all fall for that, to a degree, but you weight things incorrectly. | |||
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