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"Doesn't mean that another EU based company will get it. " Yes it might do... might be a company in another EU country that designs/prints our next post-Brexit passports lol -Matt | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it "Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it. How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use. -Matt | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt"Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt"So will we be tendering to less people? How will that impact on the cost of everything tendered for? | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one "Exactly. But it will be more expensive no doubt, as will just be used by the EU rather than cost spread amongst wider audience. And my, sarcastic, point was that the money the pay towards our EU membership seems to be pledged to be spent over and over. e.g. (using arbitrary made-up numbers) we clearly can't give £350M of it to the NHS if we have to give, say, £1M to this service. That leaves £349M. Now repeat that for every other service we have to now replace. Get the picture? Whilst there is no doubt an element of our fee that goes towards 'bureaucracy' and no doubt there is money being siphoned off to line pockets, just like our own politicians do (expenses scandal?)... we do actually get services in return for our membership fee. -Matt | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
So will we be tendering to less people? How will that impact on the cost of everything tendered for? "Maybe, maybe not. At the moment, any public sector tenders over a certain threshold (something like £100K) *has* to legally go out via OJEU. If we are no longer a part of the EU, then we are no longer required to do that. Whether we decide to allow / promote / prohibit / discourage tenders from beyond our borders is a different question I guess. If the tenders are going out to a smaller audience to bid on then, I guess naturally, there is less competition for them, so prices might not be as low. But you could say it could promote more contracts going to UK businesses... which is good. But what of projects that we can't fulfil locally? Or what if there is just a single supplier and no competition on the price? You can't go out to 'get three prices' for something if there isn't three suppliers. Of course this all works in reverse too. What access will UK companies have to bid on EU-based tenders? Will we still be competitive, or will there be barriers to procurement from the UK, either artificially imposed, or just due to us not being in the same systems as the restof the EU? -Matt | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one
Exactly. But it will be more expensive no doubt, as will just be used by the EU rather than cost spread amongst wider audience.
And my, sarcastic, point was that the money the pay towards our EU membership seems to be pledged to be spent over and over. e.g. (using arbitrary made-up numbers) we clearly can't give £350M of it to the NHS if we have to give, say, £1M to this service. That leaves £349M. Now repeat that for every other service we have to now replace. Get the picture?
Whilst there is no doubt an element of our fee that goes towards 'bureaucracy' and no doubt there is money being siphoned off to line pockets, just like our own politicians do (expenses scandal?)... we do actually get services in return for our membership fee.
-Matt"Services? So are you saying that anybody who has done anything with contracts over 100k is obliged to use this service? Sounds like a waste of time and money for a lot of firms. Or, is this service a charity or does it make money? | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one
Exactly. But it will be more expensive no doubt, as will just be used by the EU rather than cost spread amongst wider audience.
And my, sarcastic, point was that the money the pay towards our EU membership seems to be pledged to be spent over and over. e.g. (using arbitrary made-up numbers) we clearly can't give £350M of it to the NHS if we have to give, say, £1M to this service. That leaves £349M. Now repeat that for every other service we have to now replace. Get the picture?
Whilst there is no doubt an element of our fee that goes towards 'bureaucracy' and no doubt there is money being siphoned off to line pockets, just like our own politicians do (expenses scandal?)... we do actually get services in return for our membership fee.
-Matt
Services? So are you saying that anybody who has done anything with contracts over 100k is obliged to use this service? Sounds like a waste of time and money for a lot of firms.
Or, is this service a charity or does it make money?"Yes, any public sector contract over £100K (or whatever the threshold is, something like that) currently needs to go out via OJEU, ie this service. When we leave the EU then we will be needing to replace it with something similar. -Matt | |||
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"Just because we will be out of the EU, doesn't mean that the EU countries can't tender for work, if invited to." Indeed, see above. They still could if we wanted them too. That is a different question. But regardless of if we do or not, we will need to run our own central procurement system. -Matt | |||
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"Just because we will be out of the EU, doesn't mean that the EU countries can't tender for work, if invited to. Indeed, see above. They still could if we wanted them too. That is a different question. But regardless of if we do or not, we will need to run our own central procurement system. -Matt" Does this current system include vendors from outside of the EU? | |||
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"Just because we will be out of the EU, doesn't mean that the EU countries can't tender for work, if invited to. Indeed, see above. They still could if we wanted them too. That is a different question. But regardless of if we do or not, we will need to run our own central procurement system. -Matt Does this current system include vendors from outside of the EU? " To be honest with you, no idea. -Matt | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one
Exactly. But it will be more expensive no doubt, as will just be used by the EU rather than cost spread amongst wider audience.
And my, sarcastic, point was that the money the pay towards our EU membership seems to be pledged to be spent over and over. e.g. (using arbitrary made-up numbers) we clearly can't give £350M of it to the NHS if we have to give, say, £1M to this service. That leaves £349M. Now repeat that for every other service we have to now replace. Get the picture?
Whilst there is no doubt an element of our fee that goes towards 'bureaucracy' and no doubt there is money being siphoned off to line pockets, just like our own politicians do (expenses scandal?)... we do actually get services in return for our membership fee.
-Matt"It was probably a failing of the Remain campaign that we assumed the other side had a basic concept of this and understood the economies of scale. | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one
Exactly. But it will be more expensive no doubt, as will just be used by the EU rather than cost spread amongst wider audience.
And my, sarcastic, point was that the money the pay towards our EU membership seems to be pledged to be spent over and over. e.g. (using arbitrary made-up numbers) we clearly can't give £350M of it to the NHS if we have to give, say, £1M to this service. That leaves £349M. Now repeat that for every other service we have to now replace. Get the picture?
Whilst there is no doubt an element of our fee that goes towards 'bureaucracy' and no doubt there is money being siphoned off to line pockets, just like our own politicians do (expenses scandal?)... we do actually get services in return for our membership fee.
-Matt
Services? So are you saying that anybody who has done anything with contracts over 100k is obliged to use this service? Sounds like a waste of time and money for a lot of firms.
Or, is this service a charity or does it make money?
Yes, any public sector contract over £100K (or whatever the threshold is, something like that) currently needs to go out via OJEU, ie this service. When we leave the EU then we will be needing to replace it with something similar.
-Matt"Fair enough. But does this service charge and make money? | |||
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"EU tendering service. Who knew? Who cares? How does the rest of the world cope without it
Anyone who has done anything with contracts over about £100K will know of it.
How does the rest of the world cope? Easy, they have their own they built/run. At their own expense to run and administer. Just like we are going to have to do... but don't worry, I'm sure there is still some left over of that £350M we can use.
-Matt
Maybe we could simply use the money we pay towards running the EU one
Exactly. But it will be more expensive no doubt, as will just be used by the EU rather than cost spread amongst wider audience.
And my, sarcastic, point was that the money the pay towards our EU membership seems to be pledged to be spent over and over. e.g. (using arbitrary made-up numbers) we clearly can't give £350M of it to the NHS if we have to give, say, £1M to this service. That leaves £349M. Now repeat that for every other service we have to now replace. Get the picture?
Whilst there is no doubt an element of our fee that goes towards 'bureaucracy' and no doubt there is money being siphoned off to line pockets, just like our own politicians do (expenses scandal?)... we do actually get services in return for our membership fee.
-Matt
Services? So are you saying that anybody who has done anything with contracts over 100k is obliged to use this service? Sounds like a waste of time and money for a lot of firms.
Or, is this service a charity or does it make money?
Yes, any public sector contract over £100K (or whatever the threshold is, something like that) currently needs to go out via OJEU, ie this service. When we leave the EU then we will be needing to replace it with something similar.
-Matt
Fair enough. But does this service charge and make money?"I've only used it as a vendor and it is free of charge to access. I'm not sure if it costs to tender through it, but I would guess not. -Matt | |||
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