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"The full quote being: "If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets." So, who said that? Must be a member of ISIS or Al Queda of course. Well, no...not openly anyway. With impeccable timing and bearing in mind that from yesterday quite a lot of Europeans will never be walking the streets again, the person who said it (broadcast live on Turkish TV yesterday) is actually the President of a member State of NATO and even more laughably a prospective member of the European Union!? It was of course one of the world's leading islamo-fascists and would-be Ottoman Emperor, President Erdogan of Turkey inciting millions of his followers to do violence against the infidel Europeans as he empties his prisons of criminals and replaces them with his political opponents. Don't expect any critical comments from NATO, the EU or 'liberals' as they're far too PC to criticise a racist muslim Nazi. Have a nice day everyone. " project fear mate! Turkey will never be an EU member in your lifetime & certainly while Erdogan is in charge! | |||
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"There's more chance of Scotland becoming an EU member than Turkey and that's slim at best." you just love your little digs, putting Scotland down. Have faith, stand up for the country you live in, hold your head up high, be a proud man and be proud of Scotland as it fights for its Freedom. You can still walk the streets of Scotland with no fear | |||
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"There's more chance of Scotland becoming an EU member than Turkey and that's slim at best. you just love your little digs, putting Scotland down. Have faith, stand up for the country you live in, hold your head up high, be a proud man and be proud of Scotland as it fights for its Freedom. You can still walk the streets of Scotland with no fear" It wasn't intended as a put-down. I want Scotland to be independent AND a member of the EU but with this government, I see very little chance of that happening. The establishment (read Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, BBC, Press & Civil Service) are dead set against it and will do everything in their power to prevent it happening. | |||
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"The full quote being: "If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets." So, who said that? Must be a member of ISIS or Al Queda of course. Well, no...not openly anyway. With impeccable timing and bearing in mind that from yesterday quite a lot of Europeans will never be walking the streets again, the person who said it (broadcast live on Turkish TV yesterday) is actually the President of a member State of NATO and even more laughably a prospective member of the European Union!? It was of course one of the world's leading islamo-fascists and would-be Ottoman Emperor, President Erdogan of Turkey inciting millions of his followers to do violence against the infidel Europeans as he empties his prisons of criminals and replaces them with his political opponents. Don't expect any critical comments from NATO, the EU or 'liberals' as they're far too PC to criticise a racist muslim Nazi. Have a nice day everyone. project fear mate! Turkey will never be an EU member in your lifetime & certainly while Erdogan is in charge! " Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. I'm sure the millions of Europeans living in mainland Europe will be thrilled at the prospect of all those Turks having free movement over EU territory? I saw the video on YouTube a few days ago. I'll try to find it when I get home from work and I'll post the link on here. | |||
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"The full quote being: "If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets." So, who said that? Must be a member of ISIS or Al Queda of course. Well, no...not openly anyway. With impeccable timing and bearing in mind that from yesterday quite a lot of Europeans will never be walking the streets again, the person who said it (broadcast live on Turkish TV yesterday) is actually the President of a member State of NATO and even more laughably a prospective member of the European Union!? It was of course one of the world's leading islamo-fascists and would-be Ottoman Emperor, President Erdogan of Turkey inciting millions of his followers to do violence against the infidel Europeans as he empties his prisons of criminals and replaces them with his political opponents. Don't expect any critical comments from NATO, the EU or 'liberals' as they're far too PC to criticise a racist muslim Nazi. Have a nice day everyone. project fear mate! Turkey will never be an EU member in your lifetime & certainly while Erdogan is in charge! Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. I'm sure the millions of Europeans living in mainland Europe will be thrilled at the prospect of all those Turks having free movement over EU territory? I saw the video on YouTube a few days ago. I'll try to find it when I get home from work and I'll post the link on here. " And turning to the commonwealth will fill england (Scotland will be independent by then) with many more commonwealth Muslims not Turkish Muslims, far more modern than commonwealth ones. | |||
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"The full quote being: "If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets." So, who said that? Must be a member of ISIS or Al Queda of course. Well, no...not openly anyway. With impeccable timing and bearing in mind that from yesterday quite a lot of Europeans will never be walking the streets again, the person who said it (broadcast live on Turkish TV yesterday) is actually the President of a member State of NATO and even more laughably a prospective member of the European Union!? It was of course one of the world's leading islamo-fascists and would-be Ottoman Emperor, President Erdogan of Turkey inciting millions of his followers to do violence against the infidel Europeans as he empties his prisons of criminals and replaces them with his political opponents. Don't expect any critical comments from NATO, the EU or 'liberals' as they're far too PC to criticise a racist muslim Nazi. Have a nice day everyone. project fear mate! Turkey will never be an EU member in your lifetime & certainly while Erdogan is in charge! Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. I'm sure the millions of Europeans living in mainland Europe will be thrilled at the prospect of all those Turks having free movement over EU territory? I saw the video on YouTube a few days ago. I'll try to find it when I get home from work and I'll post the link on here. " to join the EU there are a number of "chapters" which a country needs to fulfill. One chapter has been met so far, which has taken years. Human rights is a chapter and Turkey has absolutely no chance of meeting this obligation in the next decade let alone in weeks as previously stated. | |||
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"So much for the leave campaign saying turkey will be fast tracked into the eu ...project fear I say .." I seem to remember our last PM said he would do all he could to help get Turkey membership. Thank God he's gone, although with Dave's record I doubt anyone would have listened to him. | |||
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"So much for the leave campaign saying turkey will be fast tracked into the eu ...project fear I say .. I seem to remember our last PM said he would do all he could to help get Turkey membership. Thank God he's gone, although with Dave's record I doubt anyone would have listened to him." No idea why some englishmen are peeing their panties from fear of a potential influx of Turkish immigrants. If I remember well, terror attacks in england has been perpetrated almost in its entirety by english citizens (a very few were from the commonwealth); should englishmen be scared of themselves instead? | |||
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"So much for the leave campaign saying turkey will be fast tracked into the eu ...project fear I say .. I seem to remember our last PM said he would do all he could to help get Turkey membership. Thank God he's gone, although with Dave's record I doubt anyone would have listened to him. No idea why some englishmen are peeing their panties from fear of a potential influx of Turkish immigrants. If I remember well, terror attacks in england has been perpetrated almost in its entirety by english citizens (a very few were from the commonwealth); should englishmen be scared of themselves instead?" Indeed, the leave campaign did a lot of scaremongering about Turkey and the supposed mass immigration that would happen. But wait... hold on.... (mostly?) all of the attacks have been committed by men. Maybe we should just ban men from the UK instead? -Matt | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till." Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe. | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till. Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe." And how's that going? And what happens when the Turkish President is running the country instead of parliament, gets hacked off with Europe and decides to back out of that agreement? | |||
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"The full quote being: "If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets." So, who said that? Must be a member of ISIS or Al Queda of course. Well, no...not openly anyway. With impeccable timing and bearing in mind that from yesterday quite a lot of Europeans will never be walking the streets again, the person who said it (broadcast live on Turkish TV yesterday) is actually the President of a member State of NATO and even more laughably a prospective member of the European Union!? It was of course one of the world's leading islamo-fascists and would-be Ottoman Emperor, President Erdogan of Turkey inciting millions of his followers to do violence against the infidel Europeans as he empties his prisons of criminals and replaces them with his political opponents. Don't expect any critical comments from NATO, the EU or 'liberals' as they're far too PC to criticise a racist muslim Nazi. Have a nice day everyone. project fear mate! Turkey will never be an EU member in your lifetime & certainly while Erdogan is in charge! Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. I'm sure the millions of Europeans living in mainland Europe will be thrilled at the prospect of all those Turks having free movement over EU territory? I saw the video on YouTube a few days ago. I'll try to find it when I get home from work and I'll post the link on here. And turning to the commonwealth will fill england (Scotland will be independent by then) with many more commonwealth Muslims not Turkish Muslims, far more modern than commonwealth ones." The key difference is as an independent country the UK can control the level of immigration from the commonwealth. As a member of the EU, then EU countries will have no control at all over immigration from Turkey once Turkey becomes an EU member. | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till. Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe. And how's that going? And what happens when the Turkish President is running the country instead of parliament, gets hacked off with Europe and decides to back out of that agreement? " Erdogan already threatened to flood Europe with migrants being held in Turkey over the little spat he had with the Netherlands the other week. | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till. Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe. And how's that going? And what happens when the Turkish President is running the country instead of parliament, gets hacked off with Europe and decides to back out of that agreement? " So what is your suggestion? To quote the Dutch premier recently said " it's easy to tweet/comment from a computer it's about actually doing the job" So what would your solution be - enlighten us we would all like to know. | |||
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"The full quote being: "If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets." So, who said that? Must be a member of ISIS or Al Queda of course. Well, no...not openly anyway. With impeccable timing and bearing in mind that from yesterday quite a lot of Europeans will never be walking the streets again, the person who said it (broadcast live on Turkish TV yesterday) is actually the President of a member State of NATO and even more laughably a prospective member of the European Union!? It was of course one of the world's leading islamo-fascists and would-be Ottoman Emperor, President Erdogan of Turkey inciting millions of his followers to do violence against the infidel Europeans as he empties his prisons of criminals and replaces them with his political opponents. Don't expect any critical comments from NATO, the EU or 'liberals' as they're far too PC to criticise a racist muslim Nazi. Have a nice day everyone. project fear mate! Turkey will never be an EU member in your lifetime & certainly while Erdogan is in charge! Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. I'm sure the millions of Europeans living in mainland Europe will be thrilled at the prospect of all those Turks having free movement over EU territory? I saw the video on YouTube a few days ago. I'll try to find it when I get home from work and I'll post the link on here. And turning to the commonwealth will fill england (Scotland will be independent by then) with many more commonwealth Muslims not Turkish Muslims, far more modern than commonwealth ones. The key difference is as an independent country the UK can control the level of immigration from the commonwealth. As a member of the EU, then EU countries will have no control at all over immigration from Turkey once Turkey becomes an EU member. " Really? Back in Enoch Powell's day - we were flooded with Indian & Pakistani migrants who were blamed for all the same things as the Eastern Europeans are today. We let 180,000 migrants in last year (rest of world) why? There are rules for EU migration: Any EU citizen can visit another state without restrictions for less than 3 months. Over 3 months that citizen has to prove: 1. They are not a threat to the host country 2. They have to proved that they have sufficient capital so that they are not a burden on the host country 3. They have to have comprehensive medical insurance so that they are not a burden on the host country. These rules were brought in by the EU in 2004 when all the Eastern States joined - the fact that the UK didn't or doesn't implement these rules is down to the British government and nobody else! | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till. Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe. And how's that going? And what happens when the Turkish President is running the country instead of parliament, gets hacked off with Europe and decides to back out of that agreement? So what is your suggestion? To quote the Dutch premier recently said " it's easy to tweet/comment from a computer it's about actually doing the job" So what would your solution be - enlighten us we would all like to know." The EU bribed Turkey to take in these displaced people, as it was politically inconvenient to have them in Greece and the Balkans. The problem with offering a bribe is that Turkey could always come back for more money. The displaced people are now in Europe, and "hiding" them away in Turkey doesn't make the problem go away. If Turkey was stable, then yes, hold them there until they are either offered asylum in EU countries or are repatriated back home. Spring is here and the Mediterranean migrant trade will start again. | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till. Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe." . Thats a waste of money. 5 billion euros that wont be spent on the refugees to keep refugees in a country they dont want to be in? Who came up with that plan | |||
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"...5 billion euros that wont be spent on the refugees to keep refugees in a country they dont want to be in? Who came up with that plan " Angela Merkelstan...when she found out that during the first six months of 2016 her pet migrants had committed 142,500 crimes...(Federal Criminal Police Office statistics). | |||
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"Am I right in thinking that the EU gave £4.7 billion to Turkey last year? No need for Turkey to join, they have already got their fingers in the EU till. Yes you are right, but as you know that you probably know why - but chose not to share it! It was for aid to house the Syrian and other refugees to keep them in Turkey as opposed to flooding the Europe. And how's that going? And what happens when the Turkish President is running the country instead of parliament, gets hacked off with Europe and decides to back out of that agreement? So what is your suggestion? To quote the Dutch premier recently said " it's easy to tweet/comment from a computer it's about actually doing the job" So what would your solution be - enlighten us we would all like to know. The EU bribed Turkey to take in these displaced people, as it was politically inconvenient to have them in Greece and the Balkans. The problem with offering a bribe is that Turkey could always come back for more money. The displaced people are now in Europe, and "hiding" them away in Turkey doesn't make the problem go away. If Turkey was stable, then yes, hold them there until they are either offered asylum in EU countries or are repatriated back home. Spring is here and the Mediterranean migrant trade will start again. " Turkey is stable because of its people and appears unstable because of erdogan, and Turkish would not leave their gorgeous country unless someone as unreliable as erdogan causes havoc: Plenty are outside turkey opposing him and the 300max "pro-erdogan" you may have seen in Holland are paid groups. | |||
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"...5 billion euros that wont be spent on the refugees to keep refugees in a country they dont want to be in? Who came up with that plan Angela Merkelstan...when she found out that during the first six months of 2016 her pet migrants had committed 142,500 crimes...(Federal Criminal Police Office statistics). " Merkel was also backed up by the EU and in particular the odious Jean Claude Juncker with that plan. | |||
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" Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. " Nope. | |||
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" Didn't a senior German government minister say just last week that the EU doesn't need the UK because UK will be replaced in the EU by Turkey. Nope." The German Foreign.minister Sigmar Gabriel said very recently that Turkey was further away than ever from joining the EU but might look to the EU's forthcoming relationship with the UK as a blueprint to becoming a privileged partner in the EU. | |||
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" Have faith, stand up for the country you live in, hold your head up high " I do. The country i live in is the UK though. | |||
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"...5 billion euros that wont be spent on the refugees to keep refugees in a country they dont want to be in? Who came up with that plan Angela Merkelstan...when she found out that during the first six months of 2016 her pet migrants had committed 142,500 crimes...(Federal Criminal Police Office statistics). " Reported by the daily mail. I looked for the statistics but only 2015 is available. Waiting until 2016 is published. | |||
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"...5 billion euros that wont be spent on the refugees to keep refugees in a country they dont want to be in? Who came up with that plan Angela Merkelstan...when she found out that during the first six months of 2016 her pet migrants had committed 142,500 crimes...(Federal Criminal Police Office statistics). Reported by the daily mail. I looked for the statistics but only 2015 is available. Waiting until 2016 is published." Found the report that the daily mail referred to. "In the first half of 2016, 142,500 cases were associated with Criminal offenses, including trials, where at least one Immigrants as suspects.The development of the monthly number of cases was clearly declining. The most significant declines were in theft, crime Against sexual self-determination as well as assets and liabilities Counterfeits." So in fact it's trials, not charges. And it was declining by 36%. Now does decline mean bad or good. :D | |||
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""...no European...can walk safely on the streets." Absolutely true! Every day pedestrians get killed all over Europe, hit by road vehicles. In the UK about 5 a day are killed on our roads and 1 of them will be by a d*unk driver... Lets ban all road vehicles and booze and make our roads safe again! Or maybe we should be horrified at what has happened but put it into context and carry on about our daily lives." I get fucking hit by a bike every week. Let's ban dutch cyclists too! | |||
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"There's more chance of Scotland becoming an EU member than Turkey and that's slim at best. you just love your little digs, putting Scotland down. Have faith, stand up for the country you live in, hold your head up high, be a proud man and be proud of Scotland as it fights for its Freedom. You can still walk the streets of Scotland with no fear It wasn't intended as a put-down. I want Scotland to be independent AND a member of the EU but with this government, I see very little chance of that happening. The establishment (read Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, BBC, Press & Civil Service) are dead set against it and will do everything in their power to prevent it happening." How can Scotland become independent and a member of the EU? | |||
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""...no European...can walk safely on the streets." Absolutely true! Every day pedestrians get killed all over Europe, hit by road vehicles. In the UK about 5 a day are killed on our roads and 1 of them will be by a d*unk driver... Lets ban all road vehicles and booze and make our roads safe again! Or maybe we should be horrified at what has happened but put it into context and carry on about our daily lives." | |||
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"So much for the leave campaign saying turkey will be fast tracked into the eu ...project fear I say .. I seem to remember our last PM said he would do all he could to help get Turkey membership. Thank God he's gone, although with Dave's record I doubt anyone would have listened to him. No idea why some englishmen are peeing their panties from fear of a potential influx of Turkish immigrants. If I remember well, terror attacks in england has been perpetrated almost in its entirety by english citizens (a very few were from the commonwealth); should englishmen be scared of themselves instead?" This latest one was carried out by a white English man by the name of Adrian Russell. Can hardly blame a Turkey for that? | |||
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"So much for the leave campaign saying turkey will be fast tracked into the eu ...project fear I say .. I seem to remember our last PM said he would do all he could to help get Turkey membership. Thank God he's gone, although with Dave's record I doubt anyone would have listened to him. No idea why some englishmen are peeing their panties from fear of a potential influx of Turkish immigrants. If I remember well, terror attacks in england has been perpetrated almost in its entirety by english citizens (a very few were from the commonwealth); should englishmen be scared of themselves instead? This latest one was carried out by a white English man by the name of Adrian Russell. Can hardly blame a Turkey for that?" It appears he was a long time thug who used an Islamist cause as an excuse to carry on his life's work of inflicting harm on others. It seems now that he may well have leapt from extreme Right Wing leanings in his youth to a conversion to Islam.......that's more sadism than religion to me, using a religion as a vehicle to capitulate a personal yearning for violence. Mental health......... | |||
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