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"Ooops, brexiters. Looks like we'll be back of the queue for the Trump deal too in a couple of years time. Scotland will be alright pending their re-entry to the EU though. " Trump will being gone before that happens! Twist and turn all you like Brexit is going to become real very soon. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. But out of interest; why do you want the UK to fail so much? " ... | |||
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"Ooops, brexiters. Looks like we'll be back of the queue for the Trump deal too in a couple of years time. Scotland will be alright pending their re-entry to the EU though. " ....Another one of your predictions thats going to fail..again. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. But out of interest; why do you want the UK to fail so much? " Nobody with any sense wants the UK to fail but there is only so much money that can be earned by pensioners and the under-educated waving flags and singing God save The Queen in a country that is emptying itself of talent. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses." As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. " Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. But out of interest; why do you want the UK to fail so much? " it could be argued that by protesting in the direction that may wants to take to country.... i.e the hard brexit, the people who are standing up against this are those who want the country to fail the least.... or you could just be a sheep and let a bunch of people at the top decide your future.... and no one else get a say.... and if that works you... cool!!! | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. " thats why i have been saying that i believe they secretly don't want a deal... because it gives them an out and they can still blame the EU for future woes....... | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date" Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. " And that will be an unmitigated disaster. Youve no WTO schedule agreed so you wont get the proper benefits of being a part of it. Getting a schedule agreed takes the agreement of every member and the negotiations agreed upon in 2003 still havent been certified. Imagine how long it will take if May pisses off the EU and they decide to slow walk it? The UK also needs the EU to voluntarily give up some of their quotas to hand over to the EU. The UK has no right to it but in order to trade with other countries they need to be allocated quotas and if the EU dont gift the UK partial quotas then the UK will be trying to negotiate market share away from each countries domestic businesses. Imagine how that would go down if Trump goes to cattle country and says that theyre going to lose sales and jobs so the UK can ship beef or leather over there! Not to mention the fallout of trade between the EU and UK. Financial services and motor companies have already said that they will not take the hit on tens of millions of import duties on a trade deal with the EU and UK. No deal would mean the worst tarriffs in the world and they'll be tripping over themselves to get out. | |||
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" Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. " Incorrect. It hasn't yet been ruled on, but it seems very likely that Artcle 50 is revocable. I'm fairly sure the main drafter of the original legislation on which it is based, a brit who is now a resident of the House Of Lords, says brexit can be stopped, Article 50 revoked, by ourselves, at anytime in the next 2 years, possibly beyond that if a deal has not been struck and an extension agreed. | |||
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" Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. Incorrect. It hasn't yet been ruled on, but it seems very likely that Artcle 50 is revocable. I'm fairly sure the main drafter of the original legislation on which it is based, a brit who is now a resident of the House Of Lords, says brexit can be stopped, Article 50 revoked, by ourselves, at anytime in the next 2 years, possibly beyond that if a deal has not been struck and an extension agreed. " You really haven't been paying attention have you? We have all now been conditioned to the "no deal is better than a bad deal" line. Just to back that up May has now got an A50 deal that she has no need to go back to Parliament with at any time and under any circumstances. The EU does not have to do anything at all in this game. The UK and not the EU has decided it no longer wants to play and it is down to the UK to make proposals that are acceptable to the 27 remaining nations - not the other way around. We are not being evicted, we are walking away. Of course our right wing Press will not see it that way and they will wind up their Disciples of hate doubling down on their hated enemy "the EU" It won't be long before the pressure becomes untenable (probably about a year) and May will take us out overnight. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing."" Curious note - what are you doing to brexit proof yourself? I'm trying to make sure I'm best able to weather the storm in terms of employment but struggling to come up anything innovative. I mean I'm trying to invoke dual citizenship with Norway, so you know, if the UK sinks, I'll just jump ship. | |||
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" I mean I'm trying to invoke dual citizenship with Norway, so you know, if the UK sinks, I'll just jump ship." you are not the only one looking at other options..... i have had a look at seeing if i can take up irish citizenship... i actually have the forms and were looking over them today.... | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. But out of interest; why do you want the UK to fail so much? ... " | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing."" Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. " The EU needs a deal and they will agree to extend the 2 year deadline we will not be out for years I am sure | |||
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"Thing is, Trump will be with those Scots who want to leave the EU " True, Trump is a half Scottish Brexiter. | |||
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"Ooops, brexiters. Looks like we'll be back of the queue for the Trump deal too in a couple of years time. Scotland will be alright pending their re-entry to the EU though. " On tonight's press preview on sky news, in tomorrow's newspapers, Spain are saying Scotland will be at the back of the queue for EU membership. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price." Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. " You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. " Congratulations to you all on your Pyrrhic victory. Im looking forward to the shit storm | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. " ..well said. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. ..well said. " So I assume that you and Centaur are putting the label of moron on yourself are you? I said it about people complaining about foreigners stealing “their” jobs? I didn’t think that applied to you, but your posts seem to suggest that it was. I hope you are both able to find employment post brexit. | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU." Who don't meet the criteria. I seem to remember a big part of your campaign was about Turkey joining. Now you are quite happy to announce any single country in the EU can block a country joining after all. You say both sides told lies in the campaign in an attempt at faking some sort of equivalence, but it seems to me the Leave campaign ONLY told lies. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. The EU needs a deal and they will agree to extend the 2 year deadline we will not be out for years I am sure" Have to agree to disagree. A short, sharp economic kick in the nuts is more favourable than years of uncertainty. There will be a hit on the economy (in my opinion - motor vehicles, financial services and the service sector hardest hit), the pound and shares will take a hit and the carpet baggers will move in for a feast. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. ..well said. So I assume that you and Centaur are putting the label of moron on yourself are you? I said it about people complaining about foreigners stealing “their” jobs? I didn’t think that applied to you, but your posts seem to suggest that it was. I hope you are both able to find employment post brexit." I'm in full time employment and I've got a great job thanks. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. ..well said. So I assume that you and Centaur are putting the label of moron on yourself are you? I said it about people complaining about foreigners stealing “their” jobs? I didn’t think that applied to you, but your posts seem to suggest that it was. I hope you are both able to find employment post brexit. I'm in full time employment and I've got a great job thanks. " So why did you apply that moron label to yourself then when it was clearly aimed at people who complained about foreigners taking "their" jobs? | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU. Who don't meet the criteria. I seem to remember a big part of your campaign was about Turkey joining. Now you are quite happy to announce any single country in the EU can block a country joining after all. You say both sides told lies in the campaign in an attempt at faking some sort of equivalence, but it seems to me the Leave campaign ONLY told lies. " Scotland don't meet the criteria needed to join the EU. It is well short on the monetary and fiscal rules the EU set. It's not only Turkey in the queue either, Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro are all in the queue which Spain are saying Scotland will be at the back of. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. ..well said. So I assume that you and Centaur are putting the label of moron on yourself are you? I said it about people complaining about foreigners stealing “their” jobs? I didn’t think that applied to you, but your posts seem to suggest that it was. I hope you are both able to find employment post brexit. I'm in full time employment and I've got a great job thanks. So why did you apply that moron label to yourself then when it was clearly aimed at people who complained about foreigners taking "their" jobs? " You still haven't got it yet. For someone who claims to be intelligent you are incredibly dense. | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU. Who don't meet the criteria. I seem to remember a big part of your campaign was about Turkey joining. Now you are quite happy to announce any single country in the EU can block a country joining after all. You say both sides told lies in the campaign in an attempt at faking some sort of equivalence, but it seems to me the Leave campaign ONLY told lies. Scotland don't meet the criteria needed to join the EU. It is well short on the monetary and fiscal rules the EU set. It's not only Turkey in the queue either, Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro are all in the queue which Spain are saying Scotland will be at the back of. " see you keep saying that scotland would be at the back of the queue.... but they wouldn't be at the back of the queue for long, because all there laws and rules and regulations are already EU compliant.... monetary would be sorted out if they agreed for example to take on the euro.... so the one issue would be fiscal.... and that is where the Leave side or an SNP government would need a coherant policy... you like to lump them with all the other countries if you want.... and you can lump them with turkey... which became the vogue country to bash in order or what the leave side would be fast tracked fast tracked (which was another lie they put out, but lets leave that to one side for now).... turkey were/are only compliant in 3 of the 32 elements of EU membership..... the messy truth for those who believe scotland couldn't wouldn't get in is if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow... they would already be compliant in 30 of the 32 elements..... | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU. Who don't meet the criteria. I seem to remember a big part of your campaign was about Turkey joining. Now you are quite happy to announce any single country in the EU can block a country joining after all. You say both sides told lies in the campaign in an attempt at faking some sort of equivalence, but it seems to me the Leave campaign ONLY told lies. Scotland don't meet the criteria needed to join the EU. It is well short on the monetary and fiscal rules the EU set. It's not only Turkey in the queue either, Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro are all in the queue which Spain are saying Scotland will be at the back of. see you keep saying that scotland would be at the back of the queue.... but they wouldn't be at the back of the queue for long, because all there laws and rules and regulations are already EU compliant.... monetary would be sorted out if they agreed for example to take on the euro.... so the one issue would be fiscal.... and that is where the Leave side or an SNP government would need a coherant policy... you like to lump them with all the other countries if you want.... and you can lump them with turkey... which became the vogue country to bash in order or what the leave side would be fast tracked fast tracked (which was another lie they put out, but lets leave that to one side for now).... turkey were/are only compliant in 3 of the 32 elements of EU membership..... the messy truth for those who believe scotland couldn't wouldn't get in is if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow... they would already be compliant in 30 of the 32 elements....." so, would you come up, live in scotland | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU. Who don't meet the criteria. I seem to remember a big part of your campaign was about Turkey joining. Now you are quite happy to announce any single country in the EU can block a country joining after all. You say both sides told lies in the campaign in an attempt at faking some sort of equivalence, but it seems to me the Leave campaign ONLY told lies. Scotland don't meet the criteria needed to join the EU. It is well short on the monetary and fiscal rules the EU set. It's not only Turkey in the queue either, Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro are all in the queue which Spain are saying Scotland will be at the back of. see you keep saying that scotland would be at the back of the queue.... but they wouldn't be at the back of the queue for long, because all there laws and rules and regulations are already EU compliant.... monetary would be sorted out if they agreed for example to take on the euro.... so the one issue would be fiscal.... and that is where the Leave side or an SNP government would need a coherant policy... you like to lump them with all the other countries if you want.... and you can lump them with turkey... which became the vogue country to bash in order or what the leave side would be fast tracked fast tracked (which was another lie they put out, but lets leave that to one side for now).... turkey were/are only compliant in 3 of the 32 elements of EU membership..... the messy truth for those who believe scotland couldn't wouldn't get in is if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow... they would already be compliant in 30 of the 32 elements..... so, would you come up, live in scotland " only 50 miles ish..... | |||
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"What queue? There will only be Scotland in it. You've got a very short memory. The Leave campaign in the EU referendum released a list of countries who are currently in the queue to join the EU. Who don't meet the criteria. I seem to remember a big part of your campaign was about Turkey joining. Now you are quite happy to announce any single country in the EU can block a country joining after all. You say both sides told lies in the campaign in an attempt at faking some sort of equivalence, but it seems to me the Leave campaign ONLY told lies. Scotland don't meet the criteria needed to join the EU. It is well short on the monetary and fiscal rules the EU set. It's not only Turkey in the queue either, Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro are all in the queue which Spain are saying Scotland will be at the back of. see you keep saying that scotland would be at the back of the queue.... but they wouldn't be at the back of the queue for long, because all there laws and rules and regulations are already EU compliant.... monetary would be sorted out if they agreed for example to take on the euro.... so the one issue would be fiscal.... and that is where the Leave side or an SNP government would need a coherant policy... you like to lump them with all the other countries if you want.... and you can lump them with turkey... which became the vogue country to bash in order or what the leave side would be fast tracked fast tracked (which was another lie they put out, but lets leave that to one side for now).... turkey were/are only compliant in 3 of the 32 elements of EU membership..... the messy truth for those who believe scotland couldn't wouldn't get in is if Scotland were to become independent tomorrow... they would already be compliant in 30 of the 32 elements..... so, would you come up, live in scotland only 50 miles ish..... " all are welcome in an EU Scotland, | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. ..well said. So I assume that you and Centaur are putting the label of moron on yourself are you? I said it about people complaining about foreigners stealing “their” jobs? I didn’t think that applied to you, but your posts seem to suggest that it was. I hope you are both able to find employment post brexit. I'm in full time employment and I've got a great job thanks. So why did you apply that moron label to yourself then when it was clearly aimed at people who complained about foreigners taking "their" jobs? You still haven't got it yet. For someone who claims to be intelligent you are incredibly dense. " Yet you are the one labeling yourself a moron because you couldn't read my post | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. As I said on another thread, I personally dont think it will be two years. By this time next year May will announce that the EU is intransigent because they will not succumb to our demands and she will announce unopposed that we are leaving without a deal and that will be that. Anna Soubry suggested the same thimg on tv the other day and as Farage said to her - good, you're 40 years out of date Fortunately I Brexit proofed myself from that eventuality. Cant say the same for most people who do actually have jobs in the real world economy and that will be a shock to our economy far greater than October 2007. I do feel that many on the Brexi/Kipper side seem to think that a no-deal economic meltdown is somehow going to punish the "Metropolitan Liberal Elite" and so must be appluaded. They will have to clap very loud top be heard from the dole queue's. It is a bizarre train of thought to want pain and punishment in the hope that others also suffer pain as well. Must be the new "in thing." Morons who think that "foreigners" stole "their" jobs, well if you can't beat someone at interview when you speak the language, know the customs, have to exact training qualifications rather than equivalents, know the local area etc., basically having every home field advantage, then you really need to take a good hard look at yourself. Austerity should have taught some of these people that when the economy is in a shit state the rich will look after the rich and the poor will pay the price. Lol, you and other remainers really do sound incredibly bitter on here, you keep throwing out the insults and have the gall to say on other threads ridiculous statements like "where is the love?" Lol, the contradictions are entertaining though so do keep sucking those sour grapes and making us Leave voters laugh. As a side note, these uneducated 'morons' who wanted Brexit managed to mobilise and beat the largely remain establishment (who no doubt you think are highly educated experts), in the referendum. So if a bunch of uneducated Brexit 'morons' can beat the remainers, how infinitely more moronic, dumb, and stupid must the remainers be to get beat by the Brexiters. ..well said. So I assume that you and Centaur are putting the label of moron on yourself are you? I said it about people complaining about foreigners stealing “their” jobs? I didn’t think that applied to you, but your posts seem to suggest that it was. I hope you are both able to find employment post brexit. I'm in full time employment and I've got a great job thanks. So why did you apply that moron label to yourself then when it was clearly aimed at people who complained about foreigners taking "their" jobs? You still haven't got it yet. For someone who claims to be intelligent you are incredibly dense. Yet you are the one labeling yourself a moron because you couldn't read my post " I labelled the likes of you infinitely more moronic because you got beat by the Brexiters. Do try to keep up. | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. But out of interest; why do you want the UK to fail so much? " Nope. Say it as many times as you like, it doesn't make it true just because you keep repeating it. From the guy who wrote Article 50, it can be revoked: https://www.babinc.org/bbc-article-50-author-brexit-not-irrevocable/ I'm presuming that you're a quitter. I'm also assuming that you were in full command of the facts when you voted? That being true, let's re-pose the question. Why do YOU want the UK to fail so much | |||
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"Maybe, but it is pretty likely that article is revocable and two years is a long time for the country to come to its senses. Once triggered there is no withdrawal mechanism. But out of interest; why do you want the UK to fail so much? Nope. Say it as many times as you like, it doesn't make it true just because you keep repeating it. From the guy who wrote Article 50, it can be revoked: https://www.babinc.org/bbc-article-50-author-brexit-not-irrevocable/ I'm presuming that you're a quitter. I'm also assuming that you were in full command of the facts when you voted? That being true, let's re-pose the question. Why do YOU want the UK to fail so much " What are you on Reverse psychology doesn't work with me. I'm one of the ones with foresight who wants the UK to succeed, not plod along into oblivion on the back of a mass socialist experiment. | |||
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