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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Are the rules in both cases similar?

CG Grey in the past about the cons against certain voting systems. This was an interesting video on the rules for rulers.

https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs

What are your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are the rules in both cases similar?

CG Grey in the past about the cons against certain voting systems. This was an interesting video on the rules for rulers.

https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs

What are your thoughts?

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they are in one team government and it's friends get rich in the other big business and their friends get rich ..the poor still remain poor there's not much of a difference

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years."

ROTFLMAO

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Are the rules in both cases similar?

CG Grey in the past about the cons against certain voting systems. This was an interesting video on the rules for rulers.

https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs

What are your thoughts?

they are in one team government and it's friends get rich in the other big business and their friends get rich ..the poor still remain poor there's not much of a difference "

True. But the video says buying the key people, sharing the wealth with the keys and keeping the population to create the wealth is the same.

In dictators the keys are actual people. In democracy they are groups of people that are segmented.

So when politicians say they are for the people, they mean the people who will keep them in power.

In Britain I believe those groups have shifted. New strategy needed and the usual politicians can't cut it. Trump and Sanders seems to have figured it out.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years."

Spot on! What we need is a benign dictator, might be free

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

It'd be interesting to see what actual democracy looks like. Don't think it's been tried in modern times.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years.

Spot on! What we need is a benign dictator, might be free "

The problem is keeping the "benign" part benign.

That's how we ended up with the democracy that we have with checks and balances. Representative chambers and an independent judiciary.

Just be wary when the elected dictator wants to change this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years.

Spot on! What we need is a benign dictator, might be free "

Rather like Franco in 60's onwards.?

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years.

Spot on! What we need is a benign dictator, might be free

Rather like Franco in 60's onwards.?"

Depends on my mood & whether my team get beat in the rugby! but nothing like Franco!! Can't think of any genuine benign dictators to model myself on sadly, so will just have to play it by ear and probably ignore social media...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy. "

It is also the crossroads of trade, and a very small and young country. I was born there and left about 25 years ago... I went to a talk about the country as recently celebrated it's 50th Birthday.... quite amazing to see that it is now twice as old as when I left it. they have achieved so much there just by going ahead and doing it. Doesn't always go down well, and the govt come under a lot of flack for wholesale displacement of communities for their building works. But you have to hand it to them, when they want to do something they just do it.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only difference is we get to vote our dictators into power every five years."

We never got a vote on "May"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy.

It is also the crossroads of trade, and a very small and young country. I was born there and left about 25 years ago... I went to a talk about the country as recently celebrated it's 50th Birthday.... quite amazing to see that it is now twice as old as when I left it. they have achieved so much there just by going ahead and doing it. Doesn't always go down well, and the govt come under a lot of flack for wholesale displacement of communities for their building works. But you have to hand it to them, when they want to do something they just do it.

-Matt"

Yep, let's hand it to Theresa May then ...

Oh, hang on...she's tried but can't can she and we wouldn't like that anyway would we?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy.

It is also the crossroads of trade, and a very small and young country. I was born there and left about 25 years ago... I went to a talk about the country as recently celebrated it's 50th Birthday.... quite amazing to see that it is now twice as old as when I left it. they have achieved so much there just by going ahead and doing it. Doesn't always go down well, and the govt come under a lot of flack for wholesale displacement of communities for their building works. But you have to hand it to them, when they want to do something they just do it.

-Matt

Yep, let's hand it to Theresa May then ...

Oh, hang on...she's tried but can't can she and we wouldn't like that anyway would we? "
FFS brexit bleeds into every thread.Stay on topic or off you fuck then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy.

It is also the crossroads of trade, and a very small and young country. I was born there and left about 25 years ago... I went to a talk about the country as recently celebrated it's 50th Birthday.... quite amazing to see that it is now twice as old as when I left it. they have achieved so much there just by going ahead and doing it. Doesn't always go down well, and the govt come under a lot of flack for wholesale displacement of communities for their building works. But you have to hand it to them, when they want to do something they just do it.

-Matt

Yep, let's hand it to Theresa May then ...

Oh, hang on...she's tried but can't can she and we wouldn't like that anyway would we? FFS brexit bleeds into every thread.Stay on topic or off you fuck then. "

Its called hypocrisy not Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy. "
no being gay of course, that's prison time, spitting, feeding pigeons, not flushing your toilet, jay waking, smoking anywhere and chewing gum, more than two packs and that's prison as well, being naked in your own house, definitely big fine.

Oh yes its super that meritocracy, firm but fair i say, nail erm up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dictatorships are alright in the beginning solving the big shit that the majority dislike but then after that they start to get a liking for messing with people.

Then they'll just string you up one day in your super duper city and your last thought will be.

How did it come to this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cuba did ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am surprised no one has mentioned Singapore as the most successfully benevolent dictatorship on earth.It out does ever country in health care and education and housing. It’s an economy that uses capitalist means to attain socialist ends. Singapore University scholars call it a “meritocratic, elitist, Confucianist, bureaucratic state”.Its a successful technocracy. no being gay of course, that's prison time, spitting, feeding pigeons, not flushing your toilet, jay waking, smoking anywhere and chewing gum, more than two packs and that's prison as well, being naked in your own house, definitely big fine.

Oh yes its super that meritocracy, firm but fair i say, nail erm up "
Yes, I know, Singapore still denies press and assembly freedoms we take for granted, and has awful anti-gay laws on the books (which go unenforced). It’s at the top of global school rankings because (unlike us) it routinely recruits exemplary students into the teaching profession.Top students are offered full rides to places such as Oxford, MIT and Stanford, and then “bonded” to do, say, six years of government service thereafter. Pragmatic problem-solving is its creed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cuba did ok "
Cubans do much better than the citizens of all their neighboring Caribbean and Central American states by all kinds of measures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless you were politically against Castro, then you just quietly disappeared

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unless you were politically against Castro, then you just quietly disappeared "
Its common in the Caribbean and Central America.He wasn't perfect but who is.He lifted millions out of poverty and educated the illiterate.On the whole the project was a success.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unless you were politically against Castro, then you just quietly disappeared Its common in the Caribbean and Central America.He wasn't perfect but who is.He lifted millions out of poverty and educated the illiterate.On the whole the project was a success. "
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Oh i agree, i just think the disappeared do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See its easy for me to agree about things that dont effect me this is a rule of life that needs examining.

Its very easy to say oh yes i love diversity when i live somewhere very white, very easy to be for immigration when you live somewhere with very little immigration to effect you.

What democracy doesnt do very well is listen to the minority, sometimes listening is all thats needed to put peoples minds at ease.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the idea of democracy where you must qualify to vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of democracy where you must qualify to vote.

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Define "qualify".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"See its easy for me to agree about things that dont effect me this is a rule of life that needs examining.

Its very easy to say oh yes i love diversity when i live somewhere very white, very easy to be for immigration when you live somewhere with very little immigration to effect you.

What democracy doesnt do very well is listen to the minority, sometimes listening is all thats needed to put peoples minds at ease."
Yeah its easy to like something at a distance.Your moral compass will point you in the right direction.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So far no-one defined what is different. Plus did anyone watch the video?

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