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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Farage and Banks want their one and only MP thrown out of the party. Is this good political strategy? They have shown again and again how hard it is to get elected to Westminster, is ir wise to throw out the one man you've got there?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Apparently they are annoyed he blocked a knighthood for Farage.

How odd they are so desperate for this, considering they billed themselves as anti establishment.

Yet another falsehood the fucking liars peddled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually he didn't block the knighthood, but was asked to intervene when the knighthood was refused - which he did do and was knocked back again.

As stated above there is nothing "new" about these politicians just out for themselves-like ALL the rest.

Also Farage would have had to quit as an MEP and lose his salary - which we are all paying for. Probably it would have had some effect on his pension too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where does it say that a knighthood bars you from being an MEP.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a crying shame they received more votes than the SNP, yet are treated like a political irrelevance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's because since last thursday the facts have proved they are a political irrelevance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a crying shame they received more votes than the SNP, yet are treated like a political irrelevance."

Poverty is a crying shame, famine is a crying shame. UKIP's inevitable decline into political irrelevance is to be expected, smugly enjoyed yet most likely be responded to with a resounding "meh"

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Farage is just butthurt because Carswell said Farage should instead be given an OBE for “services to headline writers”.

lol

-Matt

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Farage is just butthurt because Carswell said Farage should instead be given an OBE for “services to headline writers”.

lol

-Matt"

I did actually laugh out loud when I read that!

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Actually he didn't block the knighthood, but was asked to intervene when the knighthood was refused - which he did do and was knocked back again.

As stated above there is nothing "new" about these politicians just out for themselves-like ALL the rest.

Also Farage would have had to quit as an MEP and lose his salary - which we are all paying for. Probably it would have had some effect on his pension too!"

It was if he went into the Lords that he would have had to step down as an MEP, not the knighthood.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex

"Actually he didn't block the knighthood, but was asked to intervene when the knighthood was refused - which he did do and was knocked back again.

As stated above there is nothing "new" about these politicians just out for themselves-like ALL the rest.

Also Farage would have had to quit as an MEP and lose his salary - which we are all paying for. Probably it would have had some effect on his pension too!"

I believe that it was a peerage that would have meant having to resign his MEP post

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Farage is just butthurt because Carswell said Farage should instead be given an OBE for “services to headline writers”.

lol

-Matt"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Centuar said it's the rise of populism. I guess the UK didn't get the memo.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Farage is just butthurt because Carswell said Farage should instead be given an OBE for “services to headline writers”.

lol

-Matt"

And probably when asked about Nuttall will say ' services to fiction writing' ..

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Centuar said it's the rise of populism. I guess the UK didn't get the memo."

Where did I say that? I've not commented on this thread before this post. Besides the UK did get the memo because Ukip won the MEP elections in 2014.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the nuttzi's have proven themselves to be a farcical rabble .... it makes for great comedy watching these fuck-bunting shit-gibbons in their deathrows as a political entity .... by the next election everyone will have forgotten that they ever existed and those that do have a faint recolection will be pissing themselves laughing at the idiots who voted for them once-apon-a-time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the nuttzi's have proven themselves to be a farcical rabble .... it makes for great comedy watching these fuck-bunting shit-gibbons in their deathrows as a political entity .... by the next election everyone will have forgotten that they ever existed and those that do have a faint recolection will be pissing themselves laughing at the idiots who voted for them once-apon-a-time"

no disrespect, but I am sure, more people will remember them, than they will "you"

think about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no disrespect, but I am sure, more people will remember them, than they will "you"

think about it"

True. But they'll be has beens. New generations will move onto other things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no disrespect, but I am sure, more people will remember them, than they will "you"

think about it

True. But they'll be has beens. New generations will move onto other things. "

cycle of life

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

In a few years time they will be despised and most people who voted Leave will be embarrassed and/or angry at the way they were taken in.

That's what happens when you are capable of critical thinking for whatever reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In a few years time they will be despised and most people who voted Leave will be embarrassed and/or angry at the way they were taken in.

That's what happens when you are capable of critical thinking for whatever reason."

This leave voter wont be angry, and certainly wasn't taken in, as I longed for withdrawal from EU a long time ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carswell is a plant ! He's thier to scupper UKIP and he's been sussed !

Nigel has had his time

Arron Banks should form the E N P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for the kiptards the cycle of life has ended ... they're just doing the chicken with it's head chopped off routine which will be followed by them emptying their bowels and bleeding out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Carswell is a plant ! He's thier to scupper UKIP and he's been sussed !

Nigel has had his time

Arron Banks should form the E N P

"
Interesting! Do you think hes been planted there by the tories to feed back and destroy from within...TBH i mever considered it until your post..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"for the kiptards the cycle of life has ended ... they're just doing the chicken with it's head chopped off routine which will be followed by them emptying their bowels and bleeding out"
Harsh..do they get made into nuggets also..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the kiptard nuttzi party have only ever been a bunch of nuggets so no change there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Carswell is a plant ! He's thier to scupper UKIP and he's been sussed !

Nigel has had his time

Arron Banks should form the E N P

Interesting! Do you think hes been planted there by the tories to feed back and destroy from within...TBH i mever considered it until your post..

Yes I think he is and always has been !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In a few years time they will be despised and most people who voted Leave will be embarrassed and/or angry at the way they were taken in.

That's what happens when you are capable of critical thinking for whatever reason."
In what way do you think that leave voters were taken in ?

On a simplistic basis everyone had all the information necessary to make their decision and voted accordingly .

Which would any rational person want to eat restrict out number of trading partners by remaining in the EU. We are probably lucky that we decided to leave before it collapsed completely .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will Probbally collapse before we leave !

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

It's impossible to work out the infighting going on in UKIP.

Leaders coming and going. MEPs brawling. Local party activists resigning.

UKIP have achieved what they wanted with May out Brexiting them to ensure her political position.

They don't serve a purpose anymore. It's like being unemployed. Too much time and you go off the rails until you can refocus. What's to refocus on?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"In a few years time they will be despised and most people who voted Leave will be embarrassed and/or angry at the way they were taken in.

That's what happens when you are capable of critical thinking for whatever reason. In what way do you think that leave voters were taken in ?

On a simplistic basis everyone had all the information necessary to make their decision and voted accordingly .

Which would any rational person want to eat restrict out number of trading partners by remaining in the EU. We are probably lucky that we decided to leave before it collapsed completely . "

The quality of the debate was appalling and the amount of misinformation put out was disgraceful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

chancellor of the alt reich, mr NFarage, just won't shut his scummy gob will he lol. what he needs to come to terms with is that the people have spoken last thursday, and what they all said was a resounding "fuck off ukip"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"chancellor of the alt reich, mr NFarage, just won't shut his scummy gob will he lol. what he needs to come to terms with is that the people have spoken last thursday, and what they all said was a resounding "fuck off ukip""
no it was more we don't trust or like Nuttall plus many people thought did em all an didn't vote !

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"chancellor of the alt reich, mr NFarage, just won't shut his scummy gob will he lol. what he needs to come to terms with is that the people have spoken last thursday, and what they all said was a resounding "fuck off ukip" no it was more we don't trust or like Nuttall plus many people thought did em all an didn't vote ! "

It's amazing what being a lying scumbag can do for your likeability and trustworthiness

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Farage and Banks want their one and only MP thrown out of the party. Is this good political strategy? They have shown again and again how hard it is to get elected to Westminster, is ir wise to throw out the one man you've got there? "
Yes if he is not a good MP for them it is a good policy,,other parties should follow suit.

Corbyn should sack all the MP's that want him out,May should sack all MP's that do not follow her on Brexit,have an election and shut the Remainers up for good.

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Farage and Banks want their one and only MP thrown out of the party. Is this good political strategy? They have shown again and again how hard it is to get elected to Westminster, is ir wise to throw out the one man you've got there? Yes if he is not a good MP for them it is a good policy,,other parties should follow suit.

Corbyn should sack all the MP's that want him out,May should sack all MP's that do not follow her on Brexit,have an election and shut the Remainers up for good."

What in your opinion makes a good or a bad MP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In a few years time they will be despised and most people who voted Leave will be embarrassed and/or angry at the way they were taken in.

That's what happens when you are capable of critical thinking for whatever reason. In what way do you think that leave voters were taken in ?

On a simplistic basis everyone had all the information necessary to make their decision and voted accordingly .

Which would any rational person want to eat restrict out number of trading partners by remaining in the EU. We are probably lucky that we decided to leave before it collapsed completely .

The quality of the debate was appalling and the amount of misinformation put out was disgraceful.

However, leaving that aside, and taking into account the information was there, what that really shows is the shocking ability to adequately employ logic and critical thinking by the leave voters. Frankly it is so embarrassing it is offensive. "
I thought that every household received a pamphlet and we were constantly warned of the dire consequences of leaving to the extent that some voters who might have voted to leave actually voted Remain .

Due to these warnings I nearly voted to remain but decided that it would be immoral to vote for selfish reasons and self interest.

Luckily I realised that paying more into the EU than we get out was pointless and consequently came to my senses and vote to leave .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The kip turds are like a the hydra's bellend .... if they chop their bellend off seven more bellends will replace them

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

The quality of the debate was appalling and the amount of misinformation put out was disgraceful.

This vote did not require logic or critical thinking.

It was, and is, perfectly fine to have made a purely emotional argument and decide on that basis alone.

It is also perfectly acceptable to hope for the best and have faith in a positive or neutral economic outcome in the medium to long term.

Some people accept the complete uncertainty but prefer that to being in the EU. Again, fair enough.

What is disingenuous is to try to make a logical argument for leaving being positive. The data to back that up does not exist either socially or economically. Assertions and quoting politicians "pledges" and "promises" is not that. This is further underlined by the inability and refusal to respond directly to difficult questions.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

The quality of the debate was appalling and the amount of misinformation put out was disgraceful.

Corrected that statement for you.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

The vote did not require logic and critical thinking? Of course it fucking REQUIRED it. It might not have got it, not always the fault of the voter, but it required it.

What an utterly stupid thing to say.

The thing that took us out of the dark ages, actually the thing that raised us above the other primates, was the development of our brains. Human progress has rested on our use of logic and reason. It has relied on the employment of the scientific method. It is that which has led to all our greatest advances.

I welcome the admission that leave voters decision wasn't based on the use of a working brain but while brexiters want to take our country back, the rest of us want to continue taking the country forwards.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"Farage and Banks want their one and only MP thrown out of the party. Is this good political strategy? They have shown again and again how hard it is to get elected to Westminster, is ir wise to throw out the one man you've got there? Yes if he is not a good MP for them it is a good policy,,other parties should follow suit.

Corbyn should sack all the MP's that want him out,May should sack all MP's that do not follow her on Brexit,have an election and shut the Remainers up for good."

The only way we could have an election now would be for May to call a vote of no confidence in herself. Whilst that may ultimately be a tactic she employs, I do think she'd find it hard to swallow.

-Matt

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

She would. She is showing a fair bit of arrogance since she came to power.

The other thing is that the opposition are in no position to contest an election at the moment, so they would need to deny her a 2/3 majority by voting that they had confidence in the government.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"She would. She is showing a fair bit of arrogance since she came to power.

The other thing is that the opposition are in no position to contest an election at the moment, so they would need to deny her a 2/3 majority by voting that they had confidence in the government.

or they could as they know its very likely to be a proper kicking for Labour in 2020 and a change of leader then, take that now and at least have half a chance with someone else..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What do you think it would be like if it was labour in and not the tories ?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Do you mean if they had won the last election or if they had to step in now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Say they had to step in now

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Difficult to say.

Had Labour won the last election we wouldn't have had the divisive referendum and the calamitous, all consuming distraction brexit provides from all the other issues. We also wouldn't have had to put up with a further 2 tyears of Osbornes ruinous fiscal policy. Eventually most Labour policies have been quietly ushered in anyway.

That is not what you asked, though.

With Corbyn, I'm sorry to say he does not appear to have any great issue or hurry with Brexit. His focus is on just about everything else.

I think this demonstrates poor leadership and a fair degree of incompetence in understanding the major issue facing the country today. As an opposition leader he is found extremely wanting up to this moment. I fear he would be equally wanting if he was PM and I also feel there is a lack of ability in the front bench of the opposition. That is also true of the front bench of the government, though Hammond and May have generally been competent enough in many respects.

However, because Corbyn is far more concerned about other things, such as the NHS and social care, wages, the self employed, schools and the railways I think these areas would receive the attention they require while brexit would probabaly amble along. He'd take his time, scrap this ridiculous self imposed 31 March Article 50 deadline and all in all brexit would be left until the next election when the Party's would be able to offer their own manifesto based on a better idea of what it would mean to leave the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But where would labour get the money to achieve all of the problems say the NHS is facing from ?

It seems such a fine balancing act that I do not see how they could boost all of the essential services without massive cash pumped into them

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Well, for a start, they wouldn't have to put aside all the billions Hammond clearly has had to for the Brexit war chest.

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