FabSwingers.com forum: Stoke Labour candidate Gareth Snell posted series of abusive tweets about women.

By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

The Labour party candidate for the upcoming by election in Stoke Central, Mr Gareth Snell, has posted a series of abusive tweets about women, it has been reported. He attacked panelists on the tv programme Loose women as "Squabbling, sour faced ladies", called Janet Street Porter a "polished turd who is shiny and shit", and branded X Factor judge Danni Minogue as "bitchy". He also hit out at a "speccy blonde girl" on The Apprentice and said she was "fucking annoying" and told her to "piss off". In an attack on overweight women he mocked a woman on his twitter feed for taking up 2 seats on public transport. He even attacked women from within the Labour party and called Diane Abbott "arseingly stupid".

Perhaps the worse one of all where he suggests women should be physically assaulted, he tweeted about the soap Coronation Street, "Never mind Tracy being in a coma, someone should give Deirdre a good slap".

Speaking up for women, UKIP's Suzanne Evans said, "clearly this man is not fit to be an MP". She added, "How he passed Labour's vetting procedure is beyond me - or didn't they bother?"

Margot Parker added "There is no place in Parliament for someone who thinks that hitting women is acceptable".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-38960660

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Did he claim he was at hillsborough, was a professional footballer for tranmere or have a PhD though?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Do I believe this story?

No.

Why?

It is just too convenient for this story to surface just 10 days before the bye election. It is strait out of the Cambridge Analytica voter suppression playlist as used by brexit and introduced to Trump by our Nige.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I believe this story?

No.

Why?

So why has he apologised?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

So why has he apologised?"

Maybe damage limitation, maybe because he cant prove he did not say it. I don't know. I just find the whole stories timing strangely convenient for some. Are you not in the slightest suspicious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So why has he apologised?

Maybe damage limitation, maybe because he cant prove he did not say it. I don't know. I just find the whole stories timing strangely convenient for some. Are you not in the slightest suspicious?"

nope. He couldn't deny it, some of it was still on his twitter feed.

I agree with him on Diane Abbot though, that was a fair point and won't harm him

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Speaking up for women, UKIP's Suzanne Evans said..."

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha that's classic that is

(Was Godfrey not available to speak up for women)

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

In today's digital age where everything is kept forever, if you trawl through anyone's social media you are going to find comments like this. Should calling someone "bitchy" mean you should be barred from public office?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Labour party candidate for the upcoming by election in Stoke Central, Mr Gareth Snell, has posted a series of abusive tweets about women, it has been reported. He attacked panelists on the tv programme Loose women as "Squabbling, sour faced ladies", called Janet Street Porter a "polished turd who is shiny and shit", and branded X Factor judge Danni Minogue as "bitchy". He also hit out at a "speccy blonde girl" on The Apprentice and said she was "fucking annoying" and told her to "piss off". In an attack on overweight women he mocked a woman on his twitter feed for taking up 2 seats on public transport. He even attacked women from within the Labour party and called Diane Abbott "arseingly stupid".

on the above Gareth Snell does have a point and is pretty much spot on

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

So why has he apologised?

Maybe damage limitation, maybe because he cant prove he did not say it. I don't know. I just find the whole stories timing strangely convenient for some. Are you not in the slightest suspicious?

nope. He couldn't deny it, some of it was still on his twitter feed.

I agree with him on Diane Abbot though, that was a fair point and won't harm him

The Diane Abbott comment could do him some harm amongst Labour voters.

You are correct all of this stuff was on his twitter feed so he was caught out red handed. Same as when he was caught on his twitter feed calling Brexit a 'pile of shit" it seems Gareth Snell can't string a sentence together without throwing in a foul mouthed expletive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pretty much how I feel about said women, but quite like Danni Minogue though at least she can sing and perform

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Was this Snell chap the choice of the local Labour party, or one parachuted in from head office?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off."

thats not true, for a start we don't have furniture in Stoke, we've had to burn it all to keep warm, so Nuttall was just fitting in. And anyway, no Labour councillor has worked to make things better, they just make things worse

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off."

So he should know what policies are important to the locals.

Are you predicting a Labour win?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!"

Are you seriously saying you have never called anyone fat or bitchy?

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Are you saying if Nuttall loses he will stick around and work for the community he 'lives' in?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

'UKIP leader Paul Nuttall admits that claims on his website that he lost a "close personal friend" at Hillsborough are false'

He's a scumbag.

He also made up a PHD, lied about his residency in Stoke, pretends he's a working class man of the people yet stood as a fucking Tory in Liverpool, wants to kill off elephants and, above all lies that he doesn't want to privatise the NHS.

Why are you defending him?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time?"

Something right by the look of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time? "

pass

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time?

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As I thought from someone who actually lives in the area of Stoke, Labour have done absolutely nothing for the people of Stoke.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"'UKIP leader Paul Nuttall admits that claims on his website that he lost a "close personal friend" at Hillsborough are false'

He's a scumbag.

Why are you defending him?"

Why are you defending Gareth Snell, a man who posts foul mouthed abusive tweets about women.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"'UKIP leader Paul Nuttall admits that claims on his website that he lost a "close personal friend" at Hillsborough are false'

He's a scumbag.

Why are you defending him?"

He is claiming that he was at Hillsborough during the disaster, but that claim is denied by his school who had records of all the children who were, a friend of 25 years says he has never mentioned it, and the Hillsborough Families Support Group says he has never been in touch to offer support.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Why are you defending Gareth Snell, a man who posts foul mouthed abusive tweets about women. "

But does he grab them by the pussy?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

If both of the two main combatant posters in this thread admits that their favoured candidate has said something ridiculous or lied, then I'll put £5 in the charity tin when I go in the supermarket this afternoon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed. "

they usually are. For years you could have stuck a red rosette on a chimpanzee and it would have got elected. That has been the problem, the seat is taken for granted so nothing ever gets done. Time for a change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If both of the two main combatant posters in this thread admits that their favoured candidate has said something ridiculous or lied, then I'll put £5 in the charity tin when I go in the supermarket this afternoon."

my favoured candidate is the flying brick of the monster raving loony party (think thats what he's called) and he wants to put pirahnas in the river Trent so that fishing becomes a spectator sport. But I don't think he's ever lied or said anything ridiculous

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!

Are you seriously saying you have never called anyone fat or bitchy? "

Have you ever made sexist, racist, or mysoginistic remarks about anyone then? Or made fun of someone's weight? Or been derogatory about someone, or a group of people perhaps, because of their views?

and put those remarks on your social media?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

OK, just need two others to get that crispy note in the tin...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have you ever made sexist, racist, or mysoginistic remarks about anyone then? Or made fun of someone's weight? Or been derogatory about someone, or a group of people perhaps, because of their views?

and put those remarks on your social media?"

no i haven't ..... nor have i fabricated any connection between myself and the hillsborough tragedy in a twisted and sick attempt to curry favour with the electorate, nor have i had my photo taken with best friends/campaign assistants/far right extremists andrew edge and wayne riley who are both proven violent racists by way of their criminal convictions ......

shame that among the choice that the people of stoke have as prospective MPs, one has stupidly called some other people some names and another has told some pretty disgustingly shocking lies about his own history as a victim of a police cover up to make himself look like the "man of the people" and has his photo taken with his domestic extremist friends .... poor stoke

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed. "

agree on the sentient point..

pity its not shared by those who support ukip but not really a surprise..

as someone who had family at Hillsborough and have a friend who was also there who still carries the trauma despite him doing all anyone could have done as other's also did on that day i find it sickening that Nuttall has lied about such an event..

its a pretty vile thing to have done and no matter whom the person is they should be rightly held in contempt by decent people of whatever political persuasion..

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

At times I like Janet Street Porter, at times she gets on my wick. Sometimes I might have a vent about her.

I occasionally watch the Apprentice but rarely remember the names of the contestants, who often annoy me. I might have a vent about one of them sometimes.

I can't stand Loose Women. I have often ranted at some of the vacuous ill informed opinions spouted on that show when I've caught it.

I quite like Dannii Minogue. Like all talent shows though, the judges are often commenting negatively about people with far more talent than they have, or are nastier at the end of a long day than they really need to be. It is their role and the producers often design the presentation to be provocative to those at home. I have often fallen for that provocation and vented at this.

Diane Abbott, though often having her heart in the right place, is sometimes annoying, occasionally hypocritical and intellectually out of her depth against able politicians. I often vent about her not being up to the job.

I don't tend to vent at fat people, but I might, just might, have a whinge if I couldn't get a seat on a bus because someone was taking up two, or even worse, if an old lady couldn't.

Twitter is like goggle box for many.

UKIP and the Daily Mail have trawled through Snell's affairs with a fine toothcomb to try and find something to smear him with and this is the best they've managed? FFS!

For me, these pale into insignificance next to Nuttall, whose lies reveal someone who is unfit in character to represent the people of Stoke in Parliament. I have never pretended to have been at a disaster or someone close to me has died at one to either gain sympathy or to con people into believing I was something I am not in order to gain something from them. I have too much regard for the truth.

It is quite telling though that the Brexiters are trying to pretend there is an equivalence here.

It's similar to the equivalence they tried to claim for Osborne and Cameron's exaggerated and alarmist predictions as being equal to the flat out lies on three of the five central themes of the Leave campaigns and even greater exaggerations in the other two.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

UKIP are just annoyed because he is now appealing to their voters......

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed.

agree on the sentient point..

pity its not shared by those who support ukip but not really a surprise..

its a pretty vile thing to have done and no matter whom the person is they should be rightly held in contempt by decent people of whatever political persuasion.."

You've seen Paul Nuttall, yes? Possibly you have a passing familiarity with his politics?

How on earth does it surprise you that he is vile?

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Have you ever made sexist, racist, or mysoginistic remarks about anyone then? Or made fun of someone's weight? Or been derogatory about someone, or a group of people perhaps, because of their views?

and put those remarks on your social media?

Wasn't actually asking you.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

EDL/Britain First on the street, UKIP at the ballot box, apparently.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"At times I like Janet Street Porter, at times she gets on my wick. Sometimes I might have a vent about her.

I occasionally watch the Apprentice but rarely remember the names of the contestants, who often annoy me. I might have a vent about one of them sometimes.

I can't stand Loose Women. I have often ranted at some of the vacuous ill informed opinions spouted on that show when I've caught it.

I don't tend to vent at fat people, but I might, just might, have a whinge if I couldn't get a seat on a bus because someone was taking up two, or even worse, if an old lady couldn't.

Twitter is like goggle box for many.

UKIP and the Daily Mail have trawled through Snell's affairs with a fine toothcomb to try and find something to smear him with and this is the best they've managed? FFS!

It is quite telling though that the Brexiters are trying to pretend there is an equivalence here.

Paul Nuttall was at Hillsborough, he was 12 years old at the time when it happened. I just saw his statement on itv news about these events. He says he was definitely there and has friends and witnesses who were there at that match with him who would stand up in court and swear under oath they were at the match together. He said he didn't lose any close personal friends in the disaster but he knew people who died.

You say it's the Daily Mail digging for dirt on Gareth Snell but lots of news media outlets have run this story about Gareth Snell's nasty woman hating tweets including the BBC and The Guardian.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed.

Maybe putting a red rosette on a monkey would've been a better option for Labour than Gareth Smell?

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed.

Maybe putting a red rosette on a monkey would've been a better option for Labour than Gareth Smell? "

Autocorrect, meant Snell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed.

Maybe putting a red rosette on a monkey would've been a better option for Labour than Gareth Smell? "

The monkey was too smart

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Snell seems like a bit of an idiot. Those of us who lean to the left shouldn't make excuses for him just because he's on

'our team'.

It's just a shame for Stoke that their candidates are seemingly pretty flawed.

agree on the sentient point..

pity its not shared by those who support ukip but not really a surprise..

its a pretty vile thing to have done and no matter whom the person is they should be rightly held in contempt by decent people of whatever political persuasion..

You've seen Paul Nuttall, yes? Possibly you have a passing familiarity with his politics?

How on earth does it surprise you that he is vile?"

I'm not and didn't say I was. If it transpires that he has also lied about being there he will get a pretty adverse reaction in general back in Liverpool too

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

It is quite telling though that the Brexiters are trying to pretend there is an equivalence here.

'Nuttall was 12 at the time of the disaster and was a pupil at Savio high school in Bootle. One of his former teachers, a Roman Catholic priest, has told the Guardian that the school believed it had been aware of the identities of every boy who had been at Hillsborough in order to help them through a difficult period, and that Nuttall was not among them.

A fellow pupil at the school who says he has been a friend of Nuttall for decades said the Ukip leader had never mentioned being there. “I have been very good friends with Paul for over 25 years,” he said, adding that during that time they had “never spoken” about Hillsborough.

Joe Benton, who was Labour MP for Bootle for 25 years, said that to the best of his knowledge Nuttall had not mentioned Hillsborough when he stood against him as Ukip’s candidate in the 2005 and 2010 general elections.

Nuttall had not mentioned being present at Hillsborough during any public meeting they had both attended, nor in his campaign literature, Benton said, despite the strength of feeling within the constituency about the police negligence that led to the deaths and the subsequent official cover-up that led to Liverpool fans being blamed for the disaster.

The Hillsborough Families Support Group has also expressed surprise that Nuttall, an MEP for the last eight years, had never been in touch to offer his support.'

Hmmm.

I think he is lying. I think he'll be finished. What a shame.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

It is quite telling though that the Brexiters are trying to pretend there is an equivalence here.

The Hillsborough Families Support Group has also expressed surprise that Nuttall, an MEP for the last eight years, had never been in touch to offer his support.'

Hmmm.

I think he is lying. I think he'll be finished. What a shame."

Funny then that Paul Nuttall openly talked about Hillsborough on an episode of BBC Question Time some time ago when he was deputy leader of Ukip. Yet all these people you claim are saying Paul Nuttall never talked about Hillsborough. I think someone is telling fibs here and it looks like it's you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speaking up for women, UKIP's Suzanne Evans said, "clearly this man is not fit to be an MP". She added, "How he passed Labour's vetting procedure is beyond me - or didn't they bother?"

Margot Parker added "There is no place in Parliament for someone who thinks that hitting women is acceptable".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-38960660"

Except the Indonesian Parliament

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Maybe he was confused and lost his close friend at the bowling green massacre.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Maybe he was confused and lost his close friend at the bowling green massacre. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it "about women" rather than "to women" or "at women"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time?

pass"

Has Stoke gone past saving?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time?

pass

Has Stoke gone past saving?"

no because it still contains some of the best people in the country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He actually lives there, in a house with furniture and has done for 13 years.

Before being a candidate he was working to make the local area better and if he loses the election he will continue to work to help the people of Stoke.

If Nuttall loses he will just fuck off.

Stoke central have had a Labour MP since the 1950's haven't they? What have they actually done for the people in Stoke during that time?

pass

Has Stoke gone past saving?

no because it still contains some of the best people in the country

Haha. Shame about the politicians.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

It could be that Mr Nuttall was at Hillsborough, but he is a liar on other matters, such as his close friend dying there, having a PhD, being a former professional footballer, living in a house in stoke that you haven't move in to on an official form, not wanting to privatise the NHS and so on. He even photoshopped a picture of himself to make it look like he had a library full of books.

The two people who are, at this point, swearing he was at hills borough are his dad, who raised a liar and has his age wrong and another ukip employee who claims they were there together. Not exactly conclusive.

If he was there and if he doesn't like to talk about it, which is something I can understand, why though, did he start? Why did he not give a statement when the police were asking for anyone there to assist when the inquiry was reopened? Why did he never give any help to any of the support groups? Why, as an MEP, did he not try and use the European Parliament to assist in bringing justice to the 96?

The first time nuttall suggests he was there is 2009.

Either way you can't really complain at being doubted when you tell the truth when you have a track record of falsehood. It's not nice being on that end, might make the kippers think twice next time and to at last appreciate there is ultimately a good reason for choosing truth over lies.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I'm sure that the BBC news (radio) on the way to the gym tonight saod that he was now apologising and claiming that he never sid he was there - it was a mistake on a website.......

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

He definitely said he was there, he said it on the BBC politics show or breakfast time.

I think he is saying he didn't lose a close friend there and it was a mistake on the website.

It could be but I'm half inclined to think, given he had lied to misrepresent himself in a certain light or image on several occasions in the past that this is another example and when he realised he was getting found out, this was a better way to get out of it than persisting that he was there AND a friend died. The press would ask for a name and then asked the family if nuttall even new the deceased. So that gets him busted. This way he can get away with it but only looks a bit shitty that it never seemed to be an issue that he felt strongly enough about to engage with until 2009/10 when the opportunity arose to criticise Gordon Brown in the election campaign run up to try and win ukip some seats off labour.

I'm not a cynic in real life, but these fucks have earnt it.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Seems like nuttalls press secretary has taken the fall and resigned.

Well, when there are all these big red busses lying around with let's give £350 million a week extra to the NHS on them, it's easy to throw someone under one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!

Are you seriously saying you have never called anyone fat or bitchy? "

Actually I was suggesting that it may be that you had never posted such on your social media....if you had read my post properly. I have never posted such on social media.....and no prospective candidate ever should!

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!

Are you seriously saying you have never called anyone fat or bitchy?

I've never felt annoyed enough to post angry abusive tweets about women on my social media either. I think Labour's Gareth Snell must have anger issues if this trivial stuff annoys him to the extent he posts angry abusive foul mothed comments about it on his social media. Maybe someone in the Labour party should suggest to Gareth Snell that he should go on one of those anger management courses? The guy has clearly got issues.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

If you watch the cam footage of the radio interview where he is confronted with the 'close personal friend' he just looks and sounds guilty to me.

On the question of him being at Hillsborough, he is more convincing that he is telling the truth. I still wouldn't be surprised if that is also bollocks though.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!

Are you seriously saying you have never called anyone fat or bitchy?

If they are the worst things that could be found, he isnt display issues on his social media. If you consider them "angry abusive [and] foul mothed" [sic], then perhaps your a just a little too delicate snowflake.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"So what he has said is SO bad, yet posters on here are agreeing with what he said

"Anyone's" social media???....if we looked at yours would we find you calling women fat, bitchy, speccy etc.... where in your social media have you suggested giving women a slap?

Oh...you haven't (I never once thought you would) and neither would any sensible, sane people. Certainly not anyone fit to stand for public office!

Are you seriously saying you have never called anyone fat or bitchy?

Oh come on, Ukip taking the moral high ground!!! Jesus Christ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love when i hear people say 'what have 'x' party done for 'x' area. Its not the party, its government which has the real beating stick and co-operation/account holding between parties which pull an area up.

I go from Leeds to London or Leeds to cambridge. I might well think "well my city is a bit dirty and shitty" but then I see photos from leeds in the 50's, 60's, 70's , 80's and think...well atleast its cleaner and better than ten. Even my pro-brexit dad says that, ecen with rose tinted glasses on.

The only way places like stoke and Leeds will develop to get to the same standard as the south east is if central westminster actually stops having london centric policies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seems like nuttalls press secretary has taken the fall and resigned.

Well, when there are all these big red busses lying around with let's give £350 million a week extra to the NHS on them, it's easy to throw someone under one. "

Seems like he has refused to accept her resignation. Gentleman

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Seems like nuttalls press secretary has taken the fall and resigned.

Well, when there are all these big red busses lying around with let's give £350 million a week extra to the NHS on them, it's easy to throw someone under one.

Seems like he has refused to accept her resignation. Gentleman

Or perhaps its because she didn't do it, and it was, once again him lying.

He has lied about Hillsborough

He has lied about where he lives

He has lied about having a PhD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seems like nuttalls press secretary has taken the fall and resigned.

Well, when there are all these big red busses lying around with let's give £350 million a week extra to the NHS on them, it's easy to throw someone under one.

Seems like he has refused to accept her resignation. Gentleman

Or perhaps its because she didn't do it, and it was, once again him lying.

He has lied about Hillsborough

He has lied about where he lives

He has lied about having a PhD"

He could lie about whatever he liked and would still be preferable to Snell. Or having a Labour MP

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!) "

Ah, racism. Reminds me of when my MP for Stoke North, Ruth Smeeth, recently had to employ the services of a bodyguard to attend an event because she's Jewish. Now what kind of event could that be you may ask?

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

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By *..ScallyMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

He's a lying bastard, most people who know him from bootle are basically saying this is the first time they've ever heard him speak about the disaster, most people in liverpool think he's using the disaster for political gain. Says everything when the former court reporter turned his press officer is playing scapegoat to get him off the hook. Most people in our city know he's a fucking gobshite hence why he's a former fucking tory turned uskip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?"

she's still in Labour yes, goodness knows why. Why does that matter? Are you saying that the abuse she has received from some members of the Labour party might be justified?

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?"

Maybe ask the Corbynistas and the Labour party momentum activist's that question it seems they don't know the difference, they just hate Jews and Israel, full stop. As for Ruth Smeeth yes she is still a Labour MP and she also faced a torrent of abuse from Labour momentum activists at the Labour party hearing on anti semitism last year. Disgraceful behaviour that upset Ruth Smeeth so much she had to leave the room.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Agree there is ignorance and prejudice in the world. But the PC brigade is confusing the two. There is a difference between blaming the state and the people. Germans are not to blame for what happened in the 40s. The state was. And the Brits confuse the two... Don't mention the war.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up....."

they are one and the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same"

You just went PC crap on labour. Are you both?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same"

Oh really?

I'll be sure to tell your friends in the National Front that you consider them to be the "PC Brigade"...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same

You just went PC crap on labour. Are you both?"

How did I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same

Oh really?

I'll be sure to tell your friends in the National Front that you consider them to be the "PC Brigade"..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same

You just went PC crap on labour. Are you both?

How did I?"

You pointed out their anti-semitism in a passive aggressive way? I guess I misunderstood you. Thought you were a liberal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same

You just went PC crap on labour. Are you both?

How did I?

You pointed out their anti-semitism in a passive aggressive way? I guess I misunderstood you. Thought you were a liberal."

I guess you did. The only thing I am is 'common sense' and 'fair'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She didn't do it.

The BBC news site has a report with a direct quote from Nuttall where he makes the claim. Oops, you lying fuckwit.

'Paul Nuttall, North West Euro MP for UKIP, said: "This is a cover-up of a cover-up.

"What are the Tories frightened of? The people of Liverpool will be disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth.

"Revealing the facts on Hillsborough is hardly a matter of national security, it is a matter of natural justice."

"The briefings in question are the private memos that were sent to the then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

"Without them being made public we will never get to the bottom of that appalling tragedy when 96 Liverpool fans including CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE lost their lives."

What a bunch of cunts UKIP are.

(That's even without the racism!)

Oh ye, it was the Labour Party conference

She still in labour. Didn't know you cared about the Jewish. Glad to hear you have a heart. What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-zionist?

Of course they do....

YOu do know that you can't be "right on, PC brigade" and also racist Nazi at the same time, don't you? Make your mind up.....

they are one and the same

You just went PC crap on labour. Are you both?

How did I?

You pointed out their anti-semitism in a passive aggressive way? I guess I misunderstood you. Thought you were a liberal.

I guess you did. The only thing I am is 'common sense' and 'fair'"

Great, you are a real liberal.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Politics moves in mysterious ways, it seems as though Nuttal's down fall is a step up for Labour

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Politics moves in mysterious ways, it seems as though Nuttal's down fall is a step up for Labour

Are you predicting a Labour win?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Labour Donkey vs UKIP fucktard (excuse the language).

It's a assessment between which is worse. I think Nuttal is way ahead as the most unpleasant. His position appears to be down to planned political cynicism. Snell is guilty of spontaneous over-sharing.

Is that an unfair conclusion?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Politics moves in mysterious ways, it seems as though Nuttal's down fall is a step up for Labour

Are you predicting a Labour win?

You don't think that being caught lying, and trying to make political capital out of the deaths of 96 people has dented his chances somewhat?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Also, he dresses like a twat.

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over a year ago

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Think I might have a cheeky £10 on a Conservative win in both by elections.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Think I might have a cheeky £10 on a Conservative win in both by elections."

I think the Tories will definitely win the Copeland by election. The Stoke one is too close to call.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Think I might have a cheeky £10 on a Conservative win in both by elections.

I think the Tories will definitely win the Copeland by election. The Stoke one is too close to call. "

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think that being caught lying, and trying to make political capital out of the deaths of 96 people has dented Nuttall's chances somewhat?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Think I might have a cheeky £10 on a Conservative win in both by elections.

I think the Tories will definitely win the Copeland by election. The Stoke one is too close to call.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think that being caught lying, and trying to make political capital out of the deaths of 96 people has dented Nuttall's chances somewhat?"

I would certainly hope so. The man is a chancer. Hopefully the good people of Stoke will see through him at the ballot box.

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over a year ago

"Think I might have a cheeky £10 on a Conservative win in both by elections.

I think the Tories will definitely win the Copeland by election. The Stoke one is too close to call.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think that being caught lying, and trying to make political capital out of the deaths of 96 people has dented Nuttall's chances somewhat?

I would certainly hope so. The man is a chancer. Hopefully the good people of Stoke will see through him at the ballot box."

they can see through anybody, the thing is its not the man they should be voting for but for change, be that UKIP or Conservative, hopefully they will

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Think I might have a cheeky £10 on a Conservative win in both by elections.

I think the Tories will definitely win the Copeland by election. The Stoke one is too close to call.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think that being caught lying, and trying to make political capital out of the deaths of 96 people has dented Nuttall's chances somewhat?"

I think it's done a little bit of damage to Nuttall. He was at Hillsborough and people died there who he knew, the only discrepancy is whether they were close personal friends or not. I think Gareth Snell's abusive foul mouthed tweets about women have damaged Labours chances more and another story in the Stoke by election in today's newspapers which I shall post about in a moment......

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over a year ago

Anybody think it strange that in a seat Labour must win there has been no campaigning from their glorious Leader?

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

Reported in today's press that Labour have warned Muslims they will go to hell if they don't vote for Labour in the Stoke by election. One of the messages said that by not backing Labours Gareth Snell in next week's by election would see "anti-Islam" Ukip win. Muslims in the city have been getting text messages saying "will you be able to answer for this in the grave and on the final day? I helped the enemies of Islam because....."

It suggests a religious duty to back Labours Gareth Snell, and adds, "may Allah grant us guidance". Another text was sent by local Labour activist Navid Hussain who has posed with Mr Snell and Jeremy Corbyn. It read "ukip are racist and hate muslims" he also said a vote for Lib dem candidate Dr Zulfiqar Ali was "the same as voting ukip". Lib dems plan to report the attempt to 'bully and intimidate' to police and poll chiefs. Lib dem leader Tim Farron said "it seeks to persuade with religion rather than political opinion". Muslim Stoke ukip activist Tariq Mahmood said "it's outrageous".

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Smacks of grubby desperation by the Labour Party.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Anybody think it strange that in a seat Labour must win there has been no campaigning from their glorious Leader?

Same in Copeland, Corbyn has been told to stay away because he is a liability.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

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over a year ago

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all. "

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

So what?

Are you seriously suggesting that having a Muslim candidate automatically makes a party pro-muslim? It's some of the most obvious tokenism ever.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

Odd that Nuttall should usurp him then

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over a year ago

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

So what?

Are you seriously suggesting that having a Muslim candidate automatically makes a party pro-muslim? It's some of the most obvious tokenism ever."

well why would 'racist' UKIP supporters vote for a Muslim?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Two peas in the same pod there!

Any actual policy arguments circulating in Stoke North?

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Ukip weren't even around in the 1960's. The UKIP party was formed in the 1990's, it would help if you do a little bit of basic research before you post such nonsense.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

So what?

Are you seriously suggesting that having a Muslim candidate automatically makes a party pro-muslim? It's some of the most obvious tokenism ever."

Yes you're 100% right there .... Just look at the Nazis in the 1930s... Absolutely littered with Jews.

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over a year ago

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

So what?

Are you seriously suggesting that having a Muslim candidate automatically makes a party pro-muslim? It's some of the most obvious tokenism ever.

Yes you're 100% right there .... Just look at the Nazis in the 1930s... Absolutely littered with Jews."

ye, apparently the muslims who voted for Tariq were too thick to realise that he was a token but all the white Christians who voted for him were in on the ploy

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Ukip weren't even around in the 1960's. The UKIP party was formed in the 1990's, it would help if you do a little bit of basic research before you post such nonsense. "

Read it again Centaur, read it again

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"I guess there is some truth in it though. Nobody can sensibly deny that UKIP are both racist and anti-Muslim. It's one of the tickets on which they campaign, after all.

the Muslim Tariq Mahmood was the UKIP candidate at the last election and took them to 2nd place

So what?

Are you seriously suggesting that having a Muslim candidate automatically makes a party pro-muslim? It's some of the most obvious tokenism ever.

Yes you're 100% right there .... Just look at the Nazis in the 1930s... Absolutely littered with Jews."

Well there was Milch, and he made it to Field Marshal

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Ukip weren't even around in the 1960's. The UKIP party was formed in the 1990's, it would help if you do a little bit of basic research before you post such nonsense. "

One of us is definitely an idiot.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Ukip weren't even around in the 1960's. The UKIP party was formed in the 1990's, it would help if you do a little bit of basic research before you post such nonsense.

One of us is definitely an idiot."

Yes it's you. Your post implied Ukip had made that slogan in the 1960's. Ukip were not around then, the party was formed in the 1990's.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I read it as UKIP had taken the Labour slogan from the 60s and had rehashed it.

So Fillie, for once, I'm with you.

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over a year ago

"I read it as UKIP had taken the Labour slogan from the 60s and had rehashed it.

So Fillie, for once, I'm with you.

Labour slogan?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"I read it as UKIP had taken the Labour slogan from the 60s and had rehashed it.

So Fillie, for once, I'm with you.

Labour slogan?"

Sorry, meant whoever put the slogan out......its been a long day and it's not finished yet!

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Two peas in the same pod there!

Any actual policy arguments circulating in Stoke North?"

I don't think Fille Derobee has anything to say about Stoke. Usually they jump all over any comments made by Tim Farron or the Lib dems but it seems they have nothing to say about Tim Farron or the Lib dems comments on Labour's 'bullying and intimidation' of Muslims in Stoke.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Ukip weren't even around in the 1960's. The UKIP party was formed in the 1990's, it would help if you do a little bit of basic research before you post such nonsense.

One of us is definitely an idiot.

Yes it's you. Your post implied Ukip had made that slogan in the 1960's. Ukip were not around then, the party was formed in the 1990's. "

No it doesn't!, it says a slogan that was used in the 1960's was plagiarised by Ukip dur.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"UKIP recently rehashed the disgusting 1960's slogan 'if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour' into 'if you want a jihadist for a neighbour vote Labour'.

This was spread by the UKIP Party Treasurer!

What a vile disgusting RACIST Party they are.

Two peas in the same pod there!

Any actual policy arguments circulating in Stoke North?

On another thread I asked lots of questions about Stoke. I didn't venture many opinions since I don't know the area. I was interested how this might pan out given the high Leave vote, the fact the Tories were delivering hard brexit, the fact UKIP were putting their top man up, that the Lib Dems were picking up a massive pro Remain vote in local elections, that it was always a safe Labour seat but Labour are in a state etc.

You may remember the thread. You told me UKIP were going to walk it because everyone was fed up with Labour after the Hospital scandal in 2009 so would never vote for them again and I asked how you how come they returned a Labour MP in 2015. Does that not ring a bell, or did your Trumpitis kick in?

I don't know what policies, specific to Stoke that either UKIP or Labour have, but my first post on this thread was a comment on how the Labour guy would be much more committed than the UKIP knob.

I know that Labour are particularly keen on defending/investing in education and the NHS. Nuttall and the Tories want to run the NHS down so they have an excuse to privatise it.

I'm not aware of the comments the Lib Dems have made or of any bullying and intimidation of muslims, other than the general hate from UKIP in their direction and specifically that tweet echoing the 1964 election.

If that is going on then I condemn whoever is doing it, Labour, UKIP, Lib Dem or Tory.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

Now it appears Labour have sunk to a new low in these 2 by elections. It was reported on BBC Newsnight last night that Labour put in their Copeland by election campaign material that the Tory policies in the NHS would lead to babies being killed and mothers being killed at the local hospital near to Copeland. Is there anything the Labour party won't say or do to scrape a few extra votes from the bottom of the barrel?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

It seems that Eddie Hitler can't even be bothered to turn up to the hustings...

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

'Theresa May refused FOUR TIMES to oppose the closure of maternity services at a Copeland hospital, during a visit ahead of next week’s by-election.

The Prime Minister squirmed under questioning about proposed cuts to a local hospital during a visit to a local primary school just eight days ahead of the crunch poll.

Mrs May refused to assure locals she'd intervene to stop plans to downgrade maternity services at West Cumberland Hospital.

And she accused Labour of being "completely misleading about what she has said about maternity services."

Trudy Harrison, the Tories' candidate in Copeland, has pledged to oppose the downgrade, but the Prime Minister refused to echo her comments.

She told reporters : “Trudy Harrison, our candidate, does indeed know the importance of these services. She is opposed to the downgrading of these services.”

Asked if she was opposed to them, the Prime Minister said: “What is important is that Trudy Harrison is a candidate who has made clear her views, not just to me but to health ministers. She would be the strongest voice for Copeland.”

Asked a third time if she was opposed to the proposals, she said: “The Labour party has been completely misleading about what I’ve said about maternity services.”

And pressed on what she does actually say about them, she said: “Trudy Harrison has made very clear to me the importance of those services. “There is an issue about recruitment and retention of doctors, Trudy has come up with a very sensible idea, that there should be a professionally-led review into that issue and that is something that the health minister is looking at.”

At no point during the exchange did she reveal her own position on whether she opposes the closure of maternity services at the hospital.

Changes to the hospital's maternity ward could force pregnant mothers to travel 40 miles to the nearest specialist centre.

Andrew Gwynne, Labour’s by-election guru, said: “To make six pledges to a remote constituency on the verge of losing vital services from its hospitals, and not mention it, is incredulous.

“The Tories don’t have any answers and so have chosen to simply airbrush it out of the picture. They clearly don’t have any real understanding of what’s going on in Copeland.”

As it is this Governments policies are having a terrible impact. It sounds like the Labour Party are right to highlight is is clearly about to get much worse.

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"'Theresa May refused FOUR TIMES to oppose the closure of maternity services at a Copeland hospital, during a visit ahead of next week’s by-election.