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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing." Majorities having to pander to minorities? | |||
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"I'm for common sense PC stuff like the use of person holes and alike but that crap about Middlesex having to rebrand is just plain meddling" I'm for common sense full stop. A lot of PC stuff seems to fly in the face of basic common sense. | |||
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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing." Back to common sense again. Common sense seems to have gone out of the window with Political correctness. We can't call blackboards, blackboards anymore we have to call them white boards. Little kids in infant school can't sing the nursery rhyme, ba ba back sheep have you any wool because it is somehow offensive? Do kids in infants school have any concept of what racism is? It's bollocks, it seems these PC types look for offence when none is there or none is intended in the first place. | |||
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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing. Back to common sense again. Common sense seems to have gone out of the window with Political correctness. We can't call blackboards, blackboards anymore we have to call them white boards. Little kids in infant school can't sing the nursery rhyme, ba ba back sheep have you any wool because it is somehow offensive? Do kids in infants school have any concept of what racism is? It's bollocks, it seems these PC types look for offence when none is there or none is intended in the first place. " What a sensible but very clever post | |||
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"Who's for / against it? It certainly seems like the Western world is moving against it." For it. It's just about being considerate, really. And not being a dick. | |||
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"Who's for / against it? It certainly seems like the Western world is moving against it." Luckily, it doesn't affect me, if it did I would be against it, but I am lucky enough to work within an industry where full work force speak and say things as it is, "calling a spade a spade", straight talk, no pussy footing around someone, frightened that one would offend pc is a world gone mad and most of it is found in offices where most try to outsmart each other like a little competition of "who is best" and "I am smarter than you" bollocks to the lot of it, a black board is a black board, bla bla black sheep will always be black, such as life, I was going to say "luckily" for me, but there is no luck in it, the bars I drink in, the gym I train in, the sports I enjoy, we all have a great bunch of mates male & female who share the same point of view PC is not the "Western World" gone mad, its certain people within the Western World who like to try and prove a point, exact same people would not drink in same bars as I do, they wouldn't last a round. | |||
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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing. Back to common sense again. Common sense seems to have gone out of the window with Political correctness. We can't call blackboards, blackboards anymore we have to call them white boards. Little kids in infant school can't sing the nursery rhyme, ba ba back sheep have you any wool because it is somehow offensive? Do kids in infants school have any concept of what racism is? It's bollocks, it seems these PC types look for offence when none is there or none is intended in the first place. " ...does this really happen? A blackboard and a whiteboard are two different things,and ba ba black sheep is banned? Why?. Because of the word black?. We have friends who are black,they refer to themselves as black. They refer to other black people as black. We didn't realise that the word "black"was taboo. Maybe that particular brand of pc hasn't reached us yet. I must inform my non Caucasian friends about their true identity | |||
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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing. Back to common sense again. Common sense seems to have gone out of the window with Political correctness. We can't call blackboards, blackboards anymore we have to call them white boards. Little kids in infant school can't sing the nursery rhyme, ba ba back sheep have you any wool because it is somehow offensive? Do kids in infants school have any concept of what racism is? It's bollocks, it seems these PC types look for offence when none is there or none is intended in the first place. ...does this really happen? A blackboard and a whiteboard are two different things,and ba ba black sheep is banned? Why?. Because of the word black?. We have friends who are black,they refer to themselves as black. They refer to other black people as black. We didn't realise that the word "black"was taboo. Maybe that particular brand of pc hasn't reached us yet. I must inform my non Caucasian friends about their true identity " My point exactly. I'm black and have no experience of the above examples. | |||
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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing. Back to common sense again. Common sense seems to have gone out of the window with Political correctness. We can't call blackboards, blackboards anymore we have to call them white boards. Little kids in infant school can't sing the nursery rhyme, ba ba back sheep have you any wool because it is somehow offensive? Do kids in infants school have any concept of what racism is? It's bollocks, it seems these PC types look for offence when none is there or none is intended in the first place. ...does this really happen? A blackboard and a whiteboard are two different things,and ba ba black sheep is banned? Why?. Because of the word black?. We have friends who are black,they refer to themselves as black. They refer to other black people as black. We didn't realise that the word "black"was taboo. Maybe that particular brand of pc hasn't reached us yet. I must inform my non Caucasian friends about their true identity My point exactly. I'm black and have no experience of the above examples. " I've also never heard of that. And I travel a lot. Where did you hear it from? Tell us your source? | |||
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"Jan 2000 on BBC news website "The guidelines stated: "The term 'black sheep' is considered by many people a very negative statement." "The history behind the rhyme is very negative and also very offensive to black people, due to the fact that the rhyme originates from slavery." "The rhyme has colonial links: 'Three bags full' refers to the three bags of wool which the slaves were told to collect and 'yes sir, yes sir' is how the slaves would reply to the slave masters when told to do a task."" .....those thing's happened way before our time. Wouldn't affect how we think or act at all. | |||
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"Jan 2000 on BBC news website "The guidelines stated: "The term 'black sheep' is considered by many people a very negative statement." "The history behind the rhyme is very negative and also very offensive to black people, due to the fact that the rhyme originates from slavery." "The rhyme has colonial links: 'Three bags full' refers to the three bags of wool which the slaves were told to collect and 'yes sir, yes sir' is how the slaves would reply to the slave masters when told to do a task."" Which is utter bollocks ( the racist /dlavery theory of ba ba black sheep was discounted years ago ) Black wool was prized, being unusual, and not needing to be dyed The rhyme refers to taxes and the 16th century wool trade, whereby farmers felt they were having their goods exploited by the rich and didn't see the profits they felt they had earned. And a" black sheep is unusual, but valuable, became despite bring different, and its wool not able to be mixed with the bulk wool, it had a value if you could find the specialised merchants who wanted it. | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. " This.. Have 2 teachers in the family and they both laugh whenever someone tries to insist the above about what is sung still and that they predominantly use those technical boards which are white and better than using chalk etc.. Ignorant people want to be able to spout vile language and if us having rules on respecting others that stops that then fine.. | |||
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"Political correctness is a phrase coined by those who do not like to be reminded that normal civilised behaviour is to not insult people, not to use racist language, who don't like to be told that people are equal, that you can't discriminate against people of different races, the disabled, against women. They want to be " free" to behave in an uncivilised and offensive manner. When they are reminded how to behave, they call it political correctness. The stories about white boards/ blackboards, and all the other nonsense, are largely fuelled by the trash end of the press, and the uncivilised end of our society, and are mostly invented. Whiteboards are white because nowadays they are white. Black people are black . ( most aren't , so if you need to describe someone, you can say Afro/ Afro Caribbean etc, it's not an insult unless you make it so) The term political correctness has one great use; as soon as someone says it, you know immediately that the person using it is ignorant/racist/ unwilling to accept societies norms of good behaviour, or to accept equality. " An outstandingly intelligent post in a sea of missinformation and ignorance. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled." So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in." That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly." That is nonsense; and you know it; There are plenty of debates about immigration and society in Sweden. And you know that too. What isn't allowed quite rightly, is racially charged discussion . And using the term " islamification" is in itself an inflammatory and discriminatory term, bandied about by the closet racists. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. That is nonsense; and you know it; There are plenty of debates about immigration and society in Sweden. And you know that too. What isn't allowed quite rightly, is racially charged discussion . And using the term " islamification" is in itself an inflammatory and discriminatory term, bandied about by the closet racists." That is right, but mostly those debates are hold by sd and I recon you would use the same term if uk was being it too. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly." It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. " Jammy Saville and the Catholic priests are too | |||
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"What a lot of people mean when they say they're "not allowed to discuss" something, is that people criticise the things they say, which is obviously not the same as the thing. Freedom of speech includes freedom of response. " . I'm pretty livid about the Middlesex rebranding... Panthers, what an American cop out | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. " That is right too and I have heard about those gangs there, by not doing anything by the government, the more sharia law will be introduced here. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. That is right too and I have heard about those gangs there, by not doing anything by the government, the more sharia law will be introduced here." Won't happen..... | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. " You can't blame political correctness on police incompetence. Instead of accepting their pathetic excuses they should have been taken to task and sacked because if they are "scared" of words instead of the welfare of the public they are not fit for purpose! What use are scared policemen? | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. You can't blame political correctness on police incompetence. Instead of accepting their pathetic excuses they should have been taken to task and sacked because if they are "scared" of words instead of the welfare of the public they are not fit for purpose! What use are scared policemen? " Exactly this; Police inaction is not due to being restricted by PC; its due to incompetence. They should be taken to task for it; at all levels from chief constable to bobby on the beat. They are hiding behind these things as an excuse for not doing their job. | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. You can't blame political correctness on police incompetence. Instead of accepting their pathetic excuses they should have been taken to task and sacked because if they are "scared" of words instead of the welfare of the public they are not fit for purpose! What use are scared policemen? Exactly this; Police inaction is not due to being restricted by PC; its due to incompetence. They should be taken to task for it; at all levels from chief constable to bobby on the beat. They are hiding behind these things as an excuse for not doing their job. " The official inquiries into what happened in Rochdale and Rotherham both highlighted that a culture of PC was partly to blame. | |||
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" Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. " No, the Police denied that that was a factor. They were accused of it by some people, but it is far from a proven fact. Obviously the Police did a poor job, but it is likely to be much more complicated than simple 'PC'. Some of the issues involved are detailed here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-25450512 | |||
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"Political correctness is a phrase coined by those who do not like to be reminded that normal civilised behaviour is to not insult people, not to use racist language, who don't like to be told that people are equal, that you can't discriminate against people of different races, the disabled, against women. They want to be " free" to behave in an uncivilised and offensive manner. When they are reminded how to behave, they call it political correctness. The stories about white boards/ blackboards, and all the other nonsense, are largely fuelled by the trash end of the press, and the uncivilised end of our society, and are mostly invented. Whiteboards are white because nowadays they are white. Black people are black . ( most aren't , so if you need to describe someone, you can say Afro/ Afro Caribbean etc, it's not an insult unless you make it so) The term political correctness has one great use; as soon as someone says it, you know immediately that the person using it is ignorant/racist/ unwilling to accept societies norms of good behaviour, or to accept equality. " Absolute bl**dy nonsense Policital correctness is a Cancer in today's Western society which all sorts of people use as a means to bending or breaking our laws They want special privileges for being a minority It is not racist to say that there is now uncontrolled migration into Europe. But the moment one says that, they are shouted down by the SJWs as racist Well, there is uncontrolled migration into Europe and that is causing problems for the Europeans Now some SJW will come along and state that we all originated from Africa so therefore we are all migrants This is the kind of which b*llsh*t which eventually results in Brexit, Trump, Rutte and more to come | |||
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"I dont like it, it is killing the world slowly, in sweden it have gone all wrong. I like trump because he will change the meaning of it, because you should be able to say what is wrong without being labbeled. So it's the backlash that you don't like. Say what you mean and society will correct you. If you offend people, they have the right to tell you. I don't agree with labels either, but I'd tell you how I feel, because in every interaction there are two people being affected. On the Internet that is multiplied. Donald Trump seems to want to stop the media. Sounds like freedom of speech is being restricted. That's not the world I want to be in.That is right with the backlash too and yes trump wants to do that too, there have to be a healthy balance with pc I recon, like in sweden noone is allowed to speak about the islamination openly. It's not only in Sweden shag, there are elements of it here in the UK. The Asian paedophile gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham were able to get away with it for as long as they did in part because of political correctness. Police and social services admitted they were afraid to act for fear of being called racist. Political correctness is a cancer in today's society and it needs stamping out. " Exactly Even the defence attorney tried to bring race into the defence case; from BBC news: "His defence barrister, Simon Nichol, said his client "has objected from the start for being tried by an all white jury and subsequent events have confirmed his fears". "He believes his convictions have nothing to do with justice but result from the faith and the race of the defendants. "He further believes that society failed the girls in this case before the girls even met them and now that failure is being blamed on a weak minority group." It is due to political correctness that this defence attorney was even able to make such a ridiculous statement | |||
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"It's become an issue because some groups have tried to enforce, or at least been reported to be enforcing, non-offensive words when the original words probably were not causing anyone any offence in the first place - councils insisting on calling Christmas, Winterval and all that sort of thing. Majorities having to pander to minorities?" As a woman I am not a minority | |||
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" As a woman I am not a minority" This is why I've always found Feminism silly. It's like a tactit admission of weakness that women need a leg up in the world which I don't think is the case. It's a self defeating idea. We are women, we need quotas etc. yet all successful women of the past and present didn't need a helping hand and would probably reject the offer of one. I'm talking about western society with balanced opportunities for all (who want/take them) | |||
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"Political correctness is a phrase coined by those who do not like to be reminded that normal civilised behaviour is to not insult people, not to use racist language, who don't like to be told that people are equal, that you can't discriminate against people of different races, the disabled, against women. They want to be " free" to behave in an uncivilised and offensive manner. When they are reminded how to behave, they call it political correctness. The stories about white boards/ blackboards, and all the other nonsense, are largely fuelled by the trash end of the press, and the uncivilised end of our society, and are mostly invented. Whiteboards are white because nowadays they are white. Black people are black . ( most aren't , so if you need to describe someone, you can say Afro/ Afro Caribbean etc, it's not an insult unless you make it so) The term political correctness has one great use; as soon as someone says it, you know immediately that the person using it is ignorant/racist/ unwilling to accept societies norms of good behaviour, or to accept equality. Absolute bl**dy nonsense Policital correctness is a Cancer in today's Western society which all sorts of people use as a means to bending or breaking our laws They want special privileges for being a minority It is not racist to say that there is now uncontrolled migration into Europe. But the moment one says that, they are shouted down by the SJWs as racist Well, there is uncontrolled migration into Europe and that is causing problems for the Europeans Now some SJW will come along and state that we all originated from Africa so therefore we are all migrants This is the kind of which b*llsh*t which eventually results in Brexit, Trump, Rutte and more to come" I agree Josie, I have the full respect and love for all humans, hate racism and nationalism yet I also hate political correctness because it stunts discourse to a sterilised level and there is usually a silly agenda behind it. We can all be mannered and tactful with out being nannied to not talk about black/white boards or to use jazz hands in place of clapping or gender pronouns or whatever the censorship de jour is. Political correctness in this form introduces fragility and weakness. Political correctness in the form of don't be a bigoted loudmouth arse hole is basic social etiquette but the lines between the two have become blurred. So yes I hate PC and no I'm not a racist by default... That's too simplistic | |||
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"Political correctness is a phrase coined by those who do not like to be reminded that normal civilised behaviour is to not insult people, not to use racist language, who don't like to be told that people are equal, that you can't discriminate against people of different races, the disabled, against women. They want to be " free" to behave in an uncivilised and offensive manner. When they are reminded how to behave, they call it political correctness. The stories about white boards/ blackboards, and all the other nonsense, are largely fuelled by the trash end of the press, and the uncivilised end of our society, and are mostly invented. Whiteboards are white because nowadays they are white. Black people are black . ( most aren't , so if you need to describe someone, you can say Afro/ Afro Caribbean etc, it's not an insult unless you make it so) The term political correctness has one great use; as soon as someone says it, you know immediately that the person using it is ignorant/racist/ unwilling to accept societies norms of good behaviour, or to accept equality. Absolute bl**dy nonsense Policital correctness is a Cancer in today's Western society which all sorts of people use as a means to bending or breaking our laws They want special privileges for being a minority It is not racist to say that there is now uncontrolled migration into Europe. But the moment one says that, they are shouted down by the SJWs as racist Well, there is uncontrolled migration into Europe and that is causing problems for the Europeans Now some SJW will come along and state that we all originated from Africa so therefore we are all migrants This is the kind of which b*llsh*t which eventually results in Brexit, Trump, Rutte and more to come I agree Josie, I have the full respect and love for all humans, hate racism and nationalism yet I also hate political correctness because it stunts discourse to a sterilised level and there is usually a silly agenda behind it. We can all be mannered and tactful with out being nannied to not talk about black/white boards or to use jazz hands in place of clapping or gender pronouns or whatever the censorship de jour is. Political correctness in this form introduces fragility and weakness. Political correctness in the form of don't be a bigoted loudmouth arse hole is basic social etiquette but the lines between the two have become blurred. So yes I hate PC and no I'm not a racist by default... That's too simplistic" Thank you I have no issue with migration where properly controlled for both the migrants and the indegenous population's mutual benefit Where an emergency exists (like in Syria) we must take in refugees to protect them on the proviso that they will return to their homeland once the emergency no longer exists. Ofcourse, one needs to be pragmatic in the sense that were the current situtation in Syria to continue for an extended period of time (for the sake of argument, say 10 years or more) then it will become very difficult for the refugees to resettle I don't have the answers but we will never have the answers until we discuss these matters openly without being branded racists by the PC brigade | |||
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"This dicussion will never reach the conclusion of what is PC and what is not because everyone has there own views on it, my view is if anyone say's anything about someone's race creed or religion or even disability to make that person look lesser of a person than they are is wrong not this change descriptions of things because it MIGHT offend someone. One of the most stupid examples of PC gone mad was a few years ago Kent NHS Trust announced that none of there staff were allowed to use the saying 'brain storming' again because it was insulting to people with Mental Health Issues and should be replaced with the words 'thought showers'. " So what? I still call it brainstorming. Actually, we stopped that because of group think. | |||
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"This dicussion will never reach the conclusion of what is PC and what is not because everyone has there own views on it, my view is if anyone say's anything about someone's race creed or religion or even disability to make that person look lesser of a person than they are is wrong not this change descriptions of things because it MIGHT offend someone. One of the most stupid examples of PC gone mad was a few years ago Kent NHS Trust announced that none of there staff were allowed to use the saying 'brain storming' again because it was insulting to people with Mental Health Issues and should be replaced with the words 'thought showers'. " What if the 'thoughts' were in large numbers, like in a storm? Would that be a 'thought storm', for if it is, it might offend Micheal Fish I agree with you; offending someone on purpose is clearly wrong; it still might not be an 'ist'; but it will be being a complete c**t | |||
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"This dicussion will never reach the conclusion of what is PC and what is not because everyone has there own views on it, my view is if anyone say's anything about someone's race creed or religion or even disability to make that person look lesser of a person than they are is wrong not this change descriptions of things because it MIGHT offend someone. One of the most stupid examples of PC gone mad was a few years ago Kent NHS Trust announced that none of there staff were allowed to use the saying 'brain storming' again because it was insulting to people with Mental Health Issues and should be replaced with the words 'thought showers'. What if the 'thoughts' were in large numbers, like in a storm? Would that be a 'thought storm', for if it is, it might offend Micheal Fish I agree with you; offending someone on purpose is clearly wrong; it still might not be an 'ist'; but it will be being a complete c**t" Haha. I agree. They're just haters. . | |||
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"This dicussion will never reach the conclusion of what is PC and what is not because everyone has there own views on it, my view is if anyone say's anything about someone's race creed or religion or even disability to make that person look lesser of a person than they are is wrong not this change descriptions of things because it MIGHT offend someone. One of the most stupid examples of PC gone mad was a few years ago Kent NHS Trust announced that none of there staff were allowed to use the saying 'brain storming' again because it was insulting to people with Mental Health Issues and should be replaced with the words 'thought showers'. What if the 'thoughts' were in large numbers, like in a storm? Would that be a 'thought storm', for if it is, it might offend Micheal Fish I agree with you; offending someone on purpose is clearly wrong; it still might not be an 'ist'; but it will be being a complete c**t Haha. I agree. They're just haters. . " Apologies; what I meant to say was, "... but it will be being a complete p**ck" [ I must adhere to the PC quota of gender-balanced insults ] | |||
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"This dicussion will never reach the conclusion of what is PC and what is not because everyone has there own views on it, my view is if anyone say's anything about someone's race creed or religion or even disability to make that person look lesser of a person than they are is wrong not this change descriptions of things because it MIGHT offend someone. One of the most stupid examples of PC gone mad was a few years ago Kent NHS Trust announced that none of there staff were allowed to use the saying 'brain storming' again because it was insulting to people with Mental Health Issues and should be replaced with the words 'thought showers'. What if the 'thoughts' were in large numbers, like in a storm? Would that be a 'thought storm', for if it is, it might offend Micheal Fish I agree with you; offending someone on purpose is clearly wrong; it still might not be an 'ist'; but it will be being a complete c**t Haha. I agree. They're just haters. . Apologies; what I meant to say was, "... but it will be being a complete p**ck" [ I must adhere to the PC quota of gender-balanced insults ]" Isn't d*ckheads more correct? | |||
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"This dicussion will never reach the conclusion of what is PC and what is not because everyone has there own views on it, my view is if anyone say's anything about someone's race creed or religion or even disability to make that person look lesser of a person than they are is wrong not this change descriptions of things because it MIGHT offend someone. One of the most stupid examples of PC gone mad was a few years ago Kent NHS Trust announced that none of there staff were allowed to use the saying 'brain storming' again because it was insulting to people with Mental Health Issues and should be replaced with the words 'thought showers'. What if the 'thoughts' were in large numbers, like in a storm? Would that be a 'thought storm', for if it is, it might offend Micheal Fish I agree with you; offending someone on purpose is clearly wrong; it still might not be an 'ist'; but it will be being a complete c**t Haha. I agree. They're just haters. . Apologies; what I meant to say was, "... but it will be being a complete p**ck" [ I must adhere to the PC quota of gender-balanced insults ] Isn't d*ckheads more correct? " It is not a direct comparator in sex discrimination But I do see your point | |||
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"Tim Minchin brought a good point in one of his shows. A word that is innocent can be used in a rude way. Finger... I cut my f****r. I f****red her in the car. That's the issue with words. It can be innocent but can turn nasty and be offensive. " I agree But surely there must be intent to cause offense I posted something on these forums a while back We have in Germany a confectionery with the brand name, when translated into English is, "N*gr* Kisses". There was no offense intended; the brand was called so as it was a dark chocolate crust encasing a white mousse When it finally arrived in England, it was rebranded "Choco-softies"; reason? Whilst the N word is not offensive in Germany, it in England I did not have a market research team to tell me all of this in advance when I came to England a couple of decades ago, so continued using that term. Once I realised that it causes offense to Black people, I stopped | |||
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"Tim Minchin brought a good point in one of his shows. A word that is innocent can be used in a rude way. Finger... I cut my f****r. I f****red her in the car. " . I should be so lucky, these days I turn the radio up to down out her yak yak yak yak. If I'd murdered her when we first met I'd be out by now | |||
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"Tim Minchin brought a good point in one of his shows. A word that is innocent can be used in a rude way. Finger... I cut my f****r. I f****red her in the car. That's the issue with words. It can be innocent but can turn nasty and be offensive. I agree But surely there must be intent to cause offense I posted something on these forums a while back We have in Germany a confectionery with the brand name, when translated into English is, "N*gr* Kisses". There was no offense intended; the brand was called so as it was a dark chocolate crust encasing a white mousse When it finally arrived in England, it was rebranded "Choco-softies"; reason? Whilst the N word is not offensive in Germany, it in England I did not have a market research team to tell me all of this in advance when I came to England a couple of decades ago, so continued using that term. Once I realised that it causes offense to Black people, I stopped" Intent! Exactly. I mentioned in a previous thread that two people with the same action can have different intentions. Situation: Person sat on a seat with a free seat. Has a newspaper peering over regularly and their bag is on the free seat. Person 1: Doesn't want someone to sit next to them. Being selfish. Person 2: Saving the seat for someone who needs it. For example, elderly or pregnant woman. Funnily enough, people can sense the intention. Intuition is strong in people. | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. " I live in your universe too. I also know for a fact that things are not banned in schools .... its all propaganda from the anti PC brigade who like to say what they think without having to deal with thru consequences | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. I live in your universe too. I also know for a fact that things are not banned in schools .... its all propaganda from the anti PC brigade who like to say what they think without having to deal with thru consequences" Perhaps the universe is larger than you imagined From the Inquisitr: “Baa Baa Black Sheep” has been deemed racist, and will no longer be sung at some child care centers in Australia. The classic nursery rhyme was penned in the early 1700s, and has been a preschool staple around the world. Some child care centers in Melbourne changed the phrases in “Baa Baa Black Sheep” because administrators feel it is both racist and sexist" | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. I live in your universe too. I also know for a fact that things are not banned in schools .... its all propaganda from the anti PC brigade who like to say what they think without having to deal with thru consequences" . I don't want to be pedantic but white boards and black boards are two completely different things, why would any normal person call a black board a white board.... For your attention the correct wording of a black board is a chalk board and a white board is called a honky board | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. I live in your universe too. I also know for a fact that things are not banned in schools .... its all propaganda from the anti PC brigade who like to say what they think without having to deal with thru consequences Perhaps the universe is larger than you imagined From the Inquisitr: “Baa Baa Black Sheep” has been deemed racist, and will no longer be sung at some child care centers in Australia. The classic nursery rhyme was penned in the early 1700s, and has been a preschool staple around the world. Some child care centers in Melbourne changed the phrases in “Baa Baa Black Sheep” because administrators feel it is both racist and sexist"" Hardly a reliable source .... | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. I live in your universe too. I also know for a fact that things are not banned in schools .... its all propaganda from the anti PC brigade who like to say what they think without having to deal with thru consequences Perhaps the universe is larger than you imagined From the Inquisitr: “Baa Baa Black Sheep” has been deemed racist, and will no longer be sung at some child care centers in Australia. The classic nursery rhyme was penned in the early 1700s, and has been a preschool staple around the world. Some child care centers in Melbourne changed the phrases in “Baa Baa Black Sheep” because administrators feel it is both racist and sexist" Hardly a reliable source ...." Why not? | |||
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"The problem Jolie is some real venomous racists like to surf on those more rational just questioning the logic type opinions like yours " Exactly this! A point I was trying to make to my (white, ukip voting) other half. | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. " now that sounds so racist keep on digging a hole | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. " This must be one of the most stupid posts I have read in quite a while The political correctness, is mostly instigated by the majority, on behalf of the patronised minority. The majority in the Northern hemisphere is Caucasian; you are the minority here; you are the majority in Africa or Asia where this won’t happen as you are unlikely to be racist against your own ethnicity What the few White people who come up with this nonsense are saying is that, non-White people are unable to stand up for themselves and therefore we need to protect these stupid people from harm. Is that what you want for yourself? All the PC BS, such as an attempt to ban, “baa baa black sheep” came from White people; it was the Black people who saw the nonsense that it was and cringed at the thought of banning a nursery rhyme; thankfully, they (the Black people) succeeded Another thing that you must understand is that political correctness is not the law. There is no law which says that I cannot call a Black person a n*gg*r. I do not use that word as I know that Black people do not like this word. It is NOT against the law; if it was, half the lyrics by Black Eyed Peas would be banned and they would be prosecuted! I detest PC not just for ethnic minorities but also for disabled people and other minority groups. I think that these sentiments should come from these groups, if they think that something needs to be changed. Do remember, that Social Justice Warriors, who are mostly White, could not give two hoots about non-White people or disabled people or any other minority group; they come up with nonsense such as this simply to elevate their position at your expense Remember another thing; this doesn’t f**kin’ affect me in the least bit. If Black people or disabled people are happy being patronised as silly little fools by the SJWs, then so be it | |||
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"Bizarre notion of the day: Some of the "political correctness gorn mad" lot appear to think that PC somehow has a basis in law....." Nope, just in human decency | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. " WOW!!! I'm seldom speechless! | |||
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" As a woman I am not a minority This is why I've always found Feminism silly. It's like a tactit admission of weakness that women need a leg up in the world which I don't think is the case. It's a self defeating idea. We are women, we need quotas etc. yet all successful women of the past and present didn't need a helping hand and would probably reject the offer of one. I'm talking about western society with balanced opportunities for all (who want/take them) " Balanced oppotunities for all do not exist. | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. " Just out of curiosity, do you feel sick about bi-racial dating? | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. Just out of curiosity, do you feel sick about bi-racial dating?" No not at all.. I'm all for it. I have nothing against ANY race. It's the ignorance I can't stand. | |||
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"Bizarre notion of the day: Some of the "political correctness gorn mad" lot appear to think that PC somehow has a basis in law..... Nope, just in human decency That's rather the point isn't it? There isn't a "PC brigade" who will drag you off or saying things, just other people who also have the right to free speech who reserve the right to call people out who say unpleasant things. " Of course, then they blame others for the unpleasant things they are saying because they can't own what they say .... | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. now that sounds so racist keep on digging a hole" Nothing I have said is racist. It's just facts .. | |||
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"This is very simple. Not complicated at all... People with issues with "PC" are generally White and uneducated. (Don't tell me about your posh job coz it means nothing ) I see a lot of reference to "blackboards and whiteboards. " Black Boards - Black in colour and u need chalk to use. (Used up until late 90s) White board - White in colour, slim line, takes up less space and can use many colours to write. Also easily cleaned. (Used from 2000 -date) How is that anything to even mention in a post regarding political correctness. All the words you can't use, or things you can't say, why does it bother you so much? It's called WHITE PRIVALEDGE. You feel like you are losing control (which you are) .. hence brexit and trump. Why do you think PC came about in the first place. It's because white people historically were brainwashed into thinking they were greater than ANYONE else and could say OR do anything they want. We all know that isn't true. Anywhere else in the world throughout history welcomed white Europeans in to their countries only for them to be BARBARIC and rape and steal. Interesting fact. Minorities ARE White people in the world space. Even though the media won't let you see that. If you actually look at the world map. You will see for yourself. Also, with the increase in bi racial dating (which I'm sure a lot of people commenting here will feel sick about) IS ON THE RISE, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sing baa baa black sheep. Or call us n**gers or p*ki's anymore. SO WHAT??!! So back to PC subject... I don't give toss .. It is what it is. You guys will be alright. You have had it your way for hundreds of years. Just out of curiosity, do you feel sick about bi-racial dating? No not at all.. I'm all for it. I have nothing against ANY race. It's the ignorance I can't stand. " In that case, I feel your post has possibly been misunderstood, unless people are seriously deluded about history, empire, slavery etc. | |||
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" As a woman I am not a minority This is why I've always found Feminism silly. It's like a tactit admission of weakness that women need a leg up in the world which I don't think is the case. It's a self defeating idea. We are women, we need quotas etc. yet all successful women of the past and present didn't need a helping hand and would probably reject the offer of one. I'm talking about western society with balanced opportunities for all (who want/take them) Balanced oppotunities for all do not exist. " Care to expand on that point please? I'll point you towards college entry stats perhaps, or maybe pay parity for 20 to 30 year olds You will default to the "gender pay gap" I'm guessing which has been debunked from every angle by statisticians | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. " Children learn derogatory language from adults. When I was at school, blackboards became chalkboards. Made sense because they are boards that you write on with chalk. However when my daughter was at preschool and they sang that nursery rhyme they sang it as baa baa baa sheep. Books still show baa baa black sheep though The nursery staff didn't know what to say when my daughter asked why they don't say black like in the books. | |||
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"Who's for / against it? It certainly seems like the Western world is moving against it. For it. It's just about being considerate, really. And not being a dick. " | |||
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"I must live in a parallel universe because as a black person I've never come across anyone who has used whiteboard for a blackboard, baa baa white sheep, my daughter is a nursery manager and sings it etc. Personally I think it's people who lack the intelligence to communicate with others without using derogatory language who get offended and use "pc gone mad" to hide behind. " Advice to ban baa baa black sheep, were dropped by Birmingham council, After black parents,condemned the advice as ridiculous. . Doctors have been told not to call pregnant women mothers. To avoid alienating transgender people. Are you saying anyone who thinks both are perfect examples of pc gone mad, and completely ludicrous. Are lacking the intelligence to communicate with others? . Everytime the pc brigade decide something is offensive, where no offence is intended, and no offence is taken. They make themselves look supercilious,and petty. . Everytime they make absurd, Bizzare decisions, more too feed their own egos, and satisfy their own feelings of self importance. They demean all the good That's gone before, And diminish their very own credibility. | |||
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