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Sky news poll on EU Single Market

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By *entaur_UK OP   Man
over a year ago

Cannock

Not that polls have been very reliable of late but for what it's worth the latest sky news poll taken after Teresa May's Brexit speech today revealed the following.....

"Do you support the UK leaving the EU single market?

Yes - 51%

No - 39%

Don't know - 10%

Now considering the leave EU vote on June 23rd last year was 52% it's telling that 51% in the sky news poll also want to leave the EU single market.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've not voted either Tory, labour or lib dem for nearly 20 years yet I have to live with what people who do vote for them with!!.

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It's annoying and I rarely stay quite about the bollocks they foster on me.... However I accept that the greens didn't win and that having one seat means we get diddly shit..... Along time ago I wanted PR to help increase the greens share of power.

However I changed my view when I realised that just like fringe parties like the greens would gain more power so would parties I wouldn't want to see like the BNP.

Therefore I reluctantly accepted that I'll never get what I want and put up with others bollocks....

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However I retain my right to moan about it

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

People are at last realising the new possibilities we will eventually have although polls can be very deceptive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of curiosity, what was the number of people sampled in the poll.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

It is why we elect representatives to parliament to make decisions on our behalf on complex matters requiring more consideration and expertise than we are able to bring. Hopefully.

#referendumwas advisory

#nomandateMay

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"It is why we elect representatives to parliament to make decisions on our behalf on complex matters requiring more consideration and expertise than we are able to bring. Hopefully.

#referendumwas advisory

#nomandateMay

"

No it's not.

It's because politicians have no interest in electoral reform - they don't even support PR, never mind regular referenda on important issues.

Your supposition has never been tested by a vote and, as long as politicians and political parties act according to the interests of the political status quo, that undemocratic position is unlikely to change.

As for the expertise of politicians.....hmmm

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Are you more expert?

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"It is why we elect representatives to parliament to make decisions on our behalf on complex matters requiring more consideration and expertise than we are able to bring. Hopefully.

#referendumwas advisory

#nomandateMay

"

Is that why Tim Farron doesn't want parliament to have the responsibility of voting on the deal we negotiate with the EU?

#Timnicebutdim

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By *entaur_UK OP   Man
over a year ago

Cannock


"It is why we elect representatives to parliament to make decisions on our behalf on complex matters requiring more consideration and expertise than we are able to bring. Hopefully.

#referendumwas advisory

#nomandateMay

Is that why Tim Farron doesn't want parliament to have the responsibility of voting on the deal we negotiate with the EU?

#Timnicebutdim "

I prefer

#TimtheTintinlookalike

I bet he's got a white dog called Snowy at home.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"

Is that why Tim Farron doesn't want parliament to have the responsibility of voting on the deal we negotiate with the EU?

#Timnicebutdim "

He wants a second referendum on the deal, since it was a first referendum that landed us in this shit. That is asking for consistency.

Without that he will VOTE, in Parliament, against triggering Article 50.

I realise how people look, or how they eat a sandwich, is how you base your decisions, but I hope you realise what that says about you when you are impressed by Michael Gove, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?"

because it doesn't work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work"

Why?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why? "

Ask a Greek.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"

Is that why Tim Farron doesn't want parliament to have the responsibility of voting on the deal we negotiate with the EU?

#Timnicebutdim

He wants a second referendum on the deal, since it was a first referendum that landed us in this shit. That is asking for consistency.

Without that he will VOTE, in Parliament, against triggering Article 50.

I realise how people look, or how they eat a sandwich, is how you base your decisions, but I hope you realise what that says about you when you are impressed by Michael Gove, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson."

What makes you think i base my decisions on how people look or how they eat a sandwich?

And what makes you think I'm impressed by Gove, Johnson or Farage?

I think you'll find that Farron, in his words,is not asking for a second referendum.

No, he says he's asking for a first referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek."

in a nutshell it is an advantage to some and disadvantage to others. Union? All in it together for the benefit of all? Thats a laugh

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek.

in a nutshell it is an advantage to some and disadvantage to others. Union? All in it together for the benefit of all? Thats a laugh"

It actually works quite well for some.

Greek shipping magnates can by cheap Mercedes with their over valued currency and Greek olive farmers can sell their produce at knock down price to the Italians who then re-label it and flog it to the rest of Europe as "genuine Italian" As if that makes any difference outside Knotting Hill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek.

in a nutshell it is an advantage to some and disadvantage to others. Union? All in it together for the benefit of all? Thats a laugh"

But Maggie didn't care about all members. Just Britain. And you said Britain was strong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek."

Funnily enough... I did. I asked 3. They basically say, the Greeks blame the EU because their government is using them as a scapegoat for the corruption in their own government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek.

Funnily enough... I did. I asked 3. They basically say, the Greeks blame the EU because their government is using them as a scapegoat for the corruption in their own government. "

Plus migrants are entitled to benefits of 400 euros a month. But the Greeks are not after a year. So with the high unemployment and bad benefit system the Greeks ate suffering and see immigrants taking their money.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"

What makes you think i base my decisions on how people look or how they eat a sandwich?

And what makes you think I'm impressed by Gove, Johnson or Farage?

I think you'll find that Farron, in his words,is not asking for a second referendum.

No, he says he's asking for a first referendum. "

Sorry, I mucked up my quote. it was aimed at Centaur and his valuable tintin contribution.

As for Farron asking for a 'first' referendum. WTF are you on about. Are you seriously trying to make out Mr Farron is unaware we held a referendum last June?

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek.

Funnily enough... I did. I asked 3. They basically say, the Greeks blame the EU because their government is using them as a scapegoat for the corruption in their own government.

Plus migrants are entitled to benefits of 400 euros a month. But the Greeks are not after a year. So with the high unemployment and bad benefit system the Greeks ate suffering and see immigrants taking their money. "

Indeed, the Greek problem is partly poor tax collection, partly a too generous benefits system for some and a too meagre one for others and mainly an over extension of personal debt during the good times, on nice German cars in many cases, which has plunged them into trouble when the financial crash - primarily a failure of the low regulation Anglo-Saxon economics started under Thatcher/Reagan - hit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

because it doesn't work

Why?

Ask a Greek.

Funnily enough... I did. I asked 3. They basically say, the Greeks blame the EU because their government is using them as a scapegoat for the corruption in their own government.

Plus migrants are entitled to benefits of 400 euros a month. But the Greeks are not after a year. So with the high unemployment and bad benefit system the Greeks ate suffering and see immigrants taking their money.

Indeed, the Greek problem is partly poor tax collection, partly a too generous benefits system for some and a too meagre one for others and mainly an over extension of personal debt during the good times, on nice German cars in many cases, which has plunged them into trouble when the financial crash - primarily a failure of the low regulation Anglo-Saxon economics started under Thatcher/Reagan - hit. "

We've gone full circle. So we want out because Brexiters were feeling guilty. That I accept. I knew they were socialists/communists/Marxists at heart.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

No, I think we want out because a minority convinced enough people immigrants are to blame for everything.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"

What makes you think i base my decisions on how people look or how they eat a sandwich?

And what makes you think I'm impressed by Gove, Johnson or Farage?

I think you'll find that Farron, in his words,is not asking for a second referendum.

No, he says he's asking for a first referendum.

Sorry, I mucked up my quote. it was aimed at Centaur and his valuable tintin contribution.

As for Farron asking for a 'first' referendum. WTF are you on about. Are you seriously trying to make out Mr Farron is unaware we held a referendum last June?"

Live on air, on Daily Politics yesterday...

Jim Coburn "so you want a second referendum then?"

Tim Farron "no, I want a FIRST referendum on the negotiated deal"

So, it's not a second referendum, its a first referendum.

But if the outcome if his first referendum is that the public don't like the negotiated deal, then he wants it to be a decision to stay in the EU.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

A first referendum the negotiated deal, a distinct from a second IN/OUT referendum.

So what is your point?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Best of three? Best of five?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?"

Thatcher realise it was a big mistake,it is the one mistake she did admit to

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"A first referendum the negotiated deal, a distinct from a second IN/OUT referendum.

So what is your point?"

He's playing with semantics, that's the pvoters wants a second referendum, and is trying to justify it through other means. He's trying to be clever, and making himself look rather foolish.

He says that parliament should be taking note of how the remain voters feel, and yet he doesn't give a shit about how the leave voters feel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it true that Maggie Thatcher got us in the single market to take advantage? If so, why is little Maggie-May undoing it?

Thatcher realise it was a big mistake,it is the one mistake she did admit to"

Where did she say that?

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By *immyXXMan
over a year ago

Pontypridd


"Not that polls have been very reliable of late but for what it's worth the latest sky news poll taken after Teresa May's Brexit speech today revealed the following.....

"Do you support the UK leaving the EU single market?

Yes - 51%

No - 39%

Don't know - 10%

Now considering the leave EU vote on June 23rd last year was 52% it's telling that 51% in the sky news poll also want to leave the EU single market.

"

And another 10% have already changed their minds since voting to remain?

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By *entaur_UK OP   Man
over a year ago

Cannock


"A first referendum the negotiated deal, a distinct from a second IN/OUT referendum.

So what is your point?

He's playing with semantics, that's the pvoters wants a second referendum, and is trying to justify it through other means. He's trying to be clever, and making himself look rather foolish.

He says that parliament should be taking note of how the remain voters feel, and yet he doesn't give a shit about how the leave voters feel. "

Tintin only has 9 MP's in Parliament. He can whinge and moan all he likes until he's blue in the face, won't make any difference. The Lib dems are a joke.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"A first referendum the negotiated deal, a distinct from a second IN/OUT referendum.

So what is your point?

He's playing with semantics, that's the pvoters wants a second referendum, and is trying to justify it through other means. He's trying to be clever, and making himself look rather foolish.

He says that parliament should be taking note of how the remain voters feel, and yet he doesn't give a shit about how the leave voters feel.

Tintin only has 9 MP's in Parliament. He can whinge and moan all he likes until he's blue in the face, won't make any difference. The Lib dems are a joke. "

Yes, they're fucking idiots, led by what can only be described as a moronic twat.

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