FabSwingers.com forum: White privilege

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh snap!

Popcorn at the ready.

Eve.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?"

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh snap!

Popcorn at the ready.

Eve.

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Lol do you know anything about it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What do you think op?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. "
americanism ?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

It is the perception that people who are white have an easier ride vis a vis getting jobs, loans, served in restaurants and bars etc.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

I shall direct my butler to answer for me, the wi-fi coverage is ghastly in the west wing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A definition of White privelege....White privilege is the ability for Whites to maintain an elevated status in society that masks racial inequality.

Does it exist?....it might do, it might not. Truth be told, I've no bloody idea.

Do you feel hard done by for some thing?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I'd say it's for the Politics room

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always knew I was special.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I'd say it's for the Politics room

It has the potential to turn political, yes.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I'd say it's for the Politics room

It has the potential to turn political, yes."

Or unpleasant so that would suit in there

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By *ammyDodgaMan
over a year ago

Nottingham/and everywhere my location says i am ;)

Bit of a controversial one that.. I suppose it depends on your own perspective and location. Even in our educated world there's still bigots..

From all sides, creeds,colours. Personally I'm with Robert Marley on this one.. One love. Ain't got time for any other bullshit.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. americanism ?"

A saying from America. I've never heard it before.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

I think there may be something in it to be fair - certainly in the southern states of America and certain areas in the UK I'd imagine!

If I had to describe it it would be an area/occupation etc where being white was seen to be a measurable advantage! For instance politician (white middle class male unless an area is trying to 'make a point ' by voting for a woman or an ethnic minority!) same with senior police, the army etc etc!

Being a woman is 'nearly as bad' op - and we get shitty period pain too (I do right now anyway!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say it's for the Politics room

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

In countries overpopulated by white people then I would say yes,

But it is/has been changing in most countries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's when white people dominate everything.

like they aren't discriminated against and are considered the norm.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. americanism ?

A saying from America. I've never heard it before. "
ow you say it's from America but you've never heard it before ? Okay

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. americanism ?

A saying from America. I've never heard it before. ow you say it's from America but you've never heard it before ? Okay"

Think he said it sounds like an americanism.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. americanism ?

A saying from America. I've never heard it before. ow you say it's from America but you've never heard it before ? Okay"

Read what I said. If I have to make it really plainly obvious for you, I'll explain.

I had never heard the expression before you mentioned it. It sounds to me like an Americanism (explained above). Capiche?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. americanism ?

A saying from America. I've never heard it before. ow you say it's from America but you've never heard it before ? Okay

Read what I said. If I have to make it really plainly obvious for you, I'll explain.

I had never heard the expression before you mentioned it. It sounds to me like an Americanism (explained above). Capiche? "

Got you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say it's for the Politics room

Only a matter of time.

Unless the debate can be steered to 'White people are so sexy'...

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

Don't know.....don't know. Sounds like an Americanism. americanism ?

A saying from America. I've never heard it before. ow you say it's from America but you've never heard it before ? Okay

Read what I said. If I have to make it really plainly obvious for you, I'll explain.

I had never heard the expression before you mentioned it. It sounds to me like an Americanism (explained above). Capiche?

Got you

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No worries

It's sounds shit anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?"

I'm sure it does in certain social circles but it's not a phrase I've ever heard before and as others have said it sounds very much like an American phrase.

Do you OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there may be something in it to be fair - certainly in the southern states of America and certain areas in the UK I'd imagine!

Being a woman is 'nearly as bad' op - and we get shitty period pain too (I do right now anyway!

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"Making a point"? Correct me if I'm wrong but Britain did have a female prime minister when I was a child and the outgoing US president is black isn't he? Were both nations merely "making a point"?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right"

I didn't speak to a black person for real until I was about 10 years old. There were none where we lived and then this kid came to school.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

It exists. I have a black partner and mixed race children. I can speak out for them and be listened to whereas they will not be if they speak out ... there is a clip doing the rounds on this on fb. Maybe because I liked in the US I got it from friends there. I see it all the time and experience it when out and about with my family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right"

Where were you living then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

I didn't speak to a black person for real until I was about 10 years old. There were none where we lived and then this kid came to school. "

My friend from 5 years old was mixed race and I used to walk to school with a black boy when I was 10. The area you lived in made a difference, although white people outnumbered other races hugely back then.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? "
In Africa, Zimbabwe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like to think I'm not treated differently, because of my colour.

OP, do you think other races feel the same as you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes it does "
Is it a good thing or a bad thing ? What are it's pros and cons ?

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe "

How's white privilege working out there?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think there may be something in it to be fair - certainly in the southern states of America and certain areas in the UK I'd imagine!

Being a woman is 'nearly as bad' op - and we get shitty period pain too (I do right now anyway!

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"Making a point"? Correct me if I'm wrong but Britain did have a female prime minister when I was a child and the outgoing US president is black isn't he? Were both nations merely "making a point"?"

America was definitely just making a point. Look at them now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe "

How many white people lived in Zimbabwe back then?

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

OP, white privilege is a term that came about with the Civil Rights movement, so I guess it's sort of an americanism.

It's basically when white people are given preferential treatment or an advantage merely for the fact they are white.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe

How's white privilege working out there?"
i was asked where i was living not where i live. Im speaking about the world as a whole here

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything! Also used by racist people who dislike white people and try to blame us for there lack of get up and go. I was in new York 2 months ago and was told reverse racism is growing every day due to terms like .. white privilege! Some will try and blame your white great great great grandparents for there lack of rolls Royce on the drive. I'm white and had to work hard for every thing I have. In fact I've been held back from jobs because I'm white, it also generalises all white people and for me that is full on racism.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything! Also used by racist people who dislike white people and try to blame us for there lack of get up and go. I was in new York 2 months ago and was told reverse racism is growing every day due to terms like .. white privilege! Some will try and blame your white great great great grandparents for there lack of rolls Royce on the drive. I'm white and had to work hard for every thing I have. In fact I've been held back from jobs because I'm white, it also generalises all white people and for me that is full on racism. "

Right. Ok then. I could but I...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe

How's white privilege working out there? i was asked where i was living not where i live. Im speaking about the world as a whole here "

The question is still relevant.

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

Right. Ok then. I could but I..."

No pls do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How were you held back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it does Is it a good thing or a bad thing ? What are it's pros and cons ?"

100% bad . No one should have different treatment due to race, gender, sexuality etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I'm reading on Wiki, white people lost their privileges in 1980, in Zimbabwe and a lot of them left.

There are no such privileges in the UK at this time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

I didn't speak to a black person for real until I was about 10 years old. There were none where we lived and then this kid came to school. "

Sounds like where I lived. This boy turned up from Ghana when I was in Yr 5 & we were all like wow he's really black.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?"

I would hope that the phrase would not be pertinent to our society today. Wouldn't you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe

How many white people lived in Zimbabwe back then? "
my school was predominantly white, but Zimbabwe as a whole white people were the minority. They were given preferencial treatment though,before the farm invasions

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

How were you held back?"

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Not only left wing liberals are thick, also those who blame others for the fact they didn't get a job ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no such thing as reverse racism . Racism is treating someone differently due to their race . This is regardless of the originators race and the targets race . People who are treating others differently are idiots - I don't think a term is to blame

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What is white privilege ? Does it exist ?

I would hope that the phrase would not be pertinent to our society today. Wouldn't you?"
yea if everyone could just get along and treat each other fairly

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I see that the op has hidden his image.

When I first looked at this thread a couple of minutes ago, it was there. But not now. Why??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups. "

You said you were held back. I meant what was it that held you back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I can tell those privileges have been withdrawn all over the world. How people treat each other personally are not privileges.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups. "

Wouldn't you ask yourself why there aren't as many applications from ethnic minority groups then? Why do you think they seek applications? To even up the playing field perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I can tell those privileges have been withdrawn all over the world. How people treat each other personally are not privileges.

White people in several African countries including Zimbabwe would disagree with that.

The whole world isn't suddenly liberal, tolerant and equal.

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

You said you were held back. I meant what was it that held you back?"

Being white is not seen as a minority group. Meaning they are not looking to recruit me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell me that wasn't serious..

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By *reygorCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

thank fuck in brum the only colour is blue for the city or claret and blue [for the villa] skin tone not a issue .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe

How many white people lived in Zimbabwe back then? my school was predominantly white, but Zimbabwe as a whole white people were the minority. They were given preferencial treatment though,before the farm invasions "

Why did you leave?

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

Wouldn't you ask yourself why there aren't as many applications from ethnic minority groups then? Why do you think they seek applications? To even up the playing field perhaps? "

But I'm being penalised for being white. That's racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

You said you were held back. I meant what was it that held you back?

Being white is not seen as a minority group. Meaning they are not looking to recruit me"

So your skin colour hasn't held you back except on the basis of an imaginary job you never applied for...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I can tell those privileges have been withdrawn all over the world. How people treat each other personally are not privileges.

White people in several African countries including Zimbabwe would disagree with that.

The whole world isn't suddenly liberal, tolerant and equal."

I meant the white privileges were withdrawn. I'm reading about it now.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

Wouldn't you ask yourself why there aren't as many applications from ethnic minority groups then? Why do you think they seek applications? To even up the playing field perhaps?

But I'm being penalised for being white. That's racist "

You aren't being penalised because you have an unfair advantage so it's evening up the playing field

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I remember at a young age just getting that feeling that something went terribly wrong for people like me and something wasn't right

Where were you living then? In Africa, Zimbabwe

How's white privilege working out there? i was asked where i was living not where i live. Im speaking about the world as a whole here

The question is still relevant."
Mugabe is a crazy man who hates white people so in Zimbabwe the situation is a lot different for them now. Which is not fair as everyone should be treated equally

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

Tell me that wasn't serious.."

It's totally serious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

You said you were held back. I meant what was it that held you back?

Being white is not seen as a minority group. Meaning they are not looking to recruit me"

I'll use the police as an example. If the entire police force was white and were policing the whole country due to past issues and the attitudes of some this may make community relations in non white communities difficult . A large workforce especially those whose job it is to work with the community should where possible reflect that community . This is why they then advertise for ethnic minorities etc . That's not racism !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

Wouldn't you ask yourself why there aren't as many applications from ethnic minority groups then? Why do you think they seek applications? To even up the playing field perhaps?

But I'm being penalised for being white. That's racist "

They're trying to encourage ethnic minorities to apply for jobs they wouldn't usually consider.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

Right. Ok then. I could but I...

No pls do."

People don't use white privilege as a racist term. Just because you were told something it doesn't make it a fact.

Positive discrimination which is what I am guessing you are referring to regarding is designed to rebalance employment to make it more accessible for all. It's not a case of white people hating other white people, it's designed to make sure there is a more level playing field for people to reach their potential.

Regarding white privilege and does it exist in a global field? Of course it does. The world isn't a utopian one filled with sprinkles and liberal, equal opportunities for all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely racism is racism no matter who it is directed at! I think reverse racism is a word made up in a pub

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

Wouldn't you ask yourself why there aren't as many applications from ethnic minority groups then? Why do you think they seek applications? To even up the playing field perhaps?

But I'm being penalised for being white. That's racist

You aren't being penalised because you have an unfair advantage so it's evening up the playing field

What's my advantage? I had the same education as most people in this country. It would be a disadvantage not being included in a job vacancy because of my skin colour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does exist. You can either say it's very subtle or so much the normal we no longer recognise it. But it's there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

white privilege is taking a topic about white privilege and turning into a topic all about white people being discriminated agianst.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I can tell those privileges have been withdrawn all over the world. How people treat each other personally are not privileges.

White people in several African countries including Zimbabwe would disagree with that.

The whole world isn't suddenly liberal, tolerant and equal.

I meant the white privileges were withdrawn. I'm reading about it now. "

Yes but there's a backlash as a consequence.

I know many white Africans who are in fear (or have fled) their homes.

The problem is that there's so much historical baggage that gets in the way. And when people get angry, they dig for roots of more anger - further and further back.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Surely racism is racism no matter who it is directed at! I think reverse racism is a word made up in a pub "

Lmfao

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"white privilege is taking a topic about white privilege and turning into a topic all about white people being discriminated agianst."

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

How did I end up here? I've never ventured this far South before.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

How were you held back?

Some companies and services like firefighters will sometimes advertise for applications from minority groups.

Wouldn't you ask yourself why there aren't as many applications from ethnic minority groups then? Why do you think they seek applications? To even up the playing field perhaps?

But I'm being penalised for being white. That's racist

You aren't being penalised because you have an unfair advantage so it's evening up the playing field

What's my advantage? I had the same education as most people in this country. It would be a disadvantage not being included in a job vacancy because of my skin colour "

You have an advantage because people view and respect you differently, they listen to you because you are white and what is considered the norm. Of course you wont realise this because you have only been in that position of privilege.

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By *reygorCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The positive discrimination job vacancy bollocks has fuck all to do with this.

When a fire service (if it ever does) recruits 10% minorities - the majority still have the majority opportunity.

The people who then get angry that they weren't afforded the full 100% and use it as justification for their prejudices are ignorant fuckwits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell me that wasn't serious..

It's totally serious. "

I think you need to give your silly white head a wobble

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"The positive discrimination job vacancy bollocks has fuck all to do with this.

When a fire service (if it ever does) recruits 10% minorities - the majority still have the majority opportunity.

The people who then get angry that they weren't afforded the full 100% and use it as justification for their prejudices are ignorant fuckwits."

I actually agree! With you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How the fuck is this politics?

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"white privilege is taking a topic about white privilege and turning into a topic all about white people being discriminated agianst.

Are we not allowed an opinion different to yours with out being accused of having a privilege? If having an opinion is a privilege then we are all privileged.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

"white privilege is taking a topic about white privilege and turning into a topic all about white people being discriminated agianst."

Or other people giving their opinions/experiences on the subject

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

Tell me that wasn't serious..

It's totally serious.

I think you need to give your silly white head a wobble"

Great racist comment to expose how stupid you are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything"

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I see that the op has hidden his image.

When I first looked at this thread a couple of minutes ago, it was there. But not now. Why??"
Do i have to explain white i do on my profile on forums ? Don't be so entitled !

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"How the fuck is this politics?

This is totally what politics should be .... not all that brexit stuff

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I see that the op has hidden his image.

When I first looked at this thread a couple of minutes ago, it was there. But not now. Why?? Do i have to explain white i do on my profile on forums ? Don't be so entitled !"

I think they were interested, but they could have asked you in a pm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell me that wasn't serious..

It's totally serious.

I think you need to give your silly white head a wobble

Great racist comment to expose how stupid you are. "

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

Can any of you give an example of when you were last given a privilege because you are white?? And if you did feel you were treated better because you are white did you raise your concern at the time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If having an opinion is a privilege then we are all privileged."

It's pretty easy to see that the opinions of white people are listened to and respected far more readily than those of minority groups; even when they are speaking on issues which directly impact the minority groups in question.

To quote a very old episode of 'The Simpsons':

Lisa: It's awful being a kid. No one listens to you.

Grampa: It's rotten being old. No one listens to you.

Homer: I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are.

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'"

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

It exists. There have been experiments done where the same CV gets sent to employers under typically 'white' and typically 'black' names, and the white ones get invited for interviews at a much higher rate.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Can any of you give an example of when you were last given a privilege because you are white?? And if you did feel you were treated better because you are white did you raise your concern at the time?"

I've never, ever been stopped by the police. I suspect that's something not many black men of my age could say.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And there is no need to get mad nobody is calling anyone a racist by bringing up the term " white privilege." If it struck a nerve, perhaps you need to reevaluate why it is making you angry

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"If having an opinion is a privilege then we are all privileged.

To quote a very old episode of 'The Simpsons':

Lisa: It's awful being a kid. No one listens to you.

Grampa: It's rotten being old. No one listens to you.

Homer: I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are."

Oh well now you quote the Simpson family your argument holds much more strength!! I remember once in eastenders Phil Mitchell got more baked beens than dot cotton in the cafe, bloody sexist cook.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"white privilege is taking a topic about white privilege and turning into a topic all about white people being discriminated agianst."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i've never been treated like i'm a whole race for being that race.

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist?? "

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term"

You have. But you're not interested in considering them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term"

Okay...you've been given them because you're a man then. Now do put a sock in it sweetcheeks...my piss is almost at boiling point

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term"

Part of the point of white privilege in the modern day is as its the norm it's not noticed

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term

Okay...you've been given them because you're a man then. Now do put a sock in it sweetcheeks...my piss is almost at boiling point"

What's should I be quite because you don't agree with me? Wow a bet your fun to hang around with. And now your being sexist by saying I benefit from being male. You really have no clue how hypocritical you are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that. "

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I'd say it's for the Politics room

It has the potential to turn political, yes.

Or unpleasant so that would suit in there

Bingo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term

Okay...you've been given them because you're a man then. Now do put a sock in it sweetcheeks...my piss is almost at boiling point

Your day is going from bad to worse what with all this racism and sexism you have to suffer. I'd offer you a sympathy shag to cheer you up, but unfortunately i'm just no fun like that

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

When I am not followed around at the supermarket? When I am not ignored when ordering a drink at the bar ... or at the desk when my son is in A and E and not getting attended to. Myself and my partner both went up and he was ignored, I wasn't .... don't worry, we try these things out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term"

Citizenship - Simply being born in this country affords you certain privileges non-citizens will never access.

Class - Being born into a financially stable family can help guarantee your health, happiness, safety, education, intelligence, and future opportunities.

Sexual Orientation - By being born straight, every state in this country affords you privileges that non-straight folks have to fight the Supreme Court for.

Sex - By being born male, you can assume that you can walk through a parking garage without worrying you'll be raped and that a defense attorney will then blame it on what you were wearing.

Ability - By being born able bodied, you probably don't have to plan your life around handicap access, braille, or other special needs.

Gender - By being born cisgendered, you aren't worried that the restroom or locker room you use will invoke public outrage.

As you can see, belonging to one or more category of Privilege, especially being a Straight White Middle Class Able-Bodied Male, can be like winning a lottery you didn't even know you were playing. But this is not to imply that any form of privilege is exactly the same as another or that people lacking in one area of privilege understand what it's like to be lacking in other areas. Race discrimination is not equal to Sex Discrimination and so forth.

copy and pasted coz i really cba but you need to stfu a little.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is."

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups."

Why wouldn't you do it , I'm sure they won't take offence, your only stating they are black! Like you say that's a fact. Your summary of me is completely wrong, to help you out.. I'm not a doughnut that's had my mind shaped to sit down and nod my head on topics I have a view on. I don't get shut down by blinkered muppets who try and make out I'm stupid for having a wider look on subjects.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I experience this kind of privilege every time I attend a service at the church I attended as a child.

Although I am now openly an atheist, I am still welcomed with open arms by friends within the congregation.

By contrast, I often hear those same friends making racially-charged remarks concerning the large number of Portuguese, Polish and Filipino worshippers, and questioning their right to participate alongside 'Local' believers...

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it "

Sounds a little half hearted. If was in a place and got a better service because I was white , I would 100% decline the advantages and state why. It would be so hypocritical to take the benefits then moan about it after. I'd be disappointed to witness someone else acting so cowardly.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I don't think the privilege necessarily is based on skin colour (at least anymore) it's just perceived as "white privilege" as many of the incumbents of high office (who happen to be white) come from a line of success and as such have had certain things such as influences, education, networking etc which have helped them into the position they are in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

I experience this kind of privilege every time I attend a service at the church I attended as a child.

Although I am now openly an atheist, I am still welcomed with open arms by friends within the congregation.

So I'm hoping you were many enough to challenge the racism at time. But I'm guessing you didn't because you say you often hear it. If I was you I'd distance myself from these people.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"I don't get shut down by blinkered muppets who try and make out I'm stupid for having a wider look on subjects. "

You don't have a wider view on this subject. People have explained to you what 'white privilege' means and you haven't listened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term

Okay...you've been given them because you're a man then. Now do put a sock in it sweetcheeks...my piss is almost at boiling point

It should be evident to anyone who has a partner on Fab that they benefit from being male.

When I fail to reply to unsolicited sexually explicit messages, or turn down someone for sex, or criticise abusive behaviour, or decide to post provocative pictures, I do not find myself suddenly receiving a flood of messages calling me a 'bitch,' a 'fat slag' or a 'stupid cow.'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

I wouldn't do it because I'm not an utter cunt.

The differentiation is still important however because your 'wider base' is clearly in a very small room.

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over a year ago

I experience this kind of privilege every time I attend a service at the church I attended as a child.

Although I am now openly an atheist, I am still welcomed with open arms by friends within the congregation.

So I'm hoping you were man enough to challenge the racism at time. But I'm guessing you didn't because you say you often hear it. If I was you I'd distance myself from these people. "

Yes, I challenge them on it. However, rather like you, they pay little notice, and merely make excuses as to why their comments 'aren't racist.'

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??"

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

Nope, speak up there and then when you see it happening. Believe me, you wouldn't want to cross me .... OH goes to the counter, waits five minutes; I go and they come over immediately ... I ask, why do you come for me and not for him (he reacts by going, oh no, she is off on one again) .... but I do this for the sake of my kids. It is not half hearted to speak up. You get preferential treatment every day, do you care or make a fuss ....

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

I experience this kind of privilege every time I attend a service at the church I attended as a child.

Although I am now openly an atheist, I am still welcomed with open arms by friends within the congregation.

So I'm hoping you were man enough to challenge the racism at time. But I'm guessing you didn't because you say you often hear it. If I was you I'd distance myself from these people.

Yes, I challenge them on it. However, rather like you, they pay little notice, and merely make excuses as to why their comments 'aren't racist.'

What racist comment have I made?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I experience this kind of privilege every time I attend a service at the church I attended as a child.

Although I am now openly an atheist, I am still welcomed with open arms by friends within the congregation.

So I'm hoping you were many enough to challenge the racism at time. But I'm guessing you didn't because you say you often hear it. If I was you I'd distance myself from these people. "

I have been in that exact environment and challenged it ... do you challenge it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?"

Neither is OK. But your accusation of racism was ignorant.

A point made much earlier. But then you've ignored many points.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?"

That was one person and no I don't think race of any kind needs to come up when insulting someone . I just think you're a dickhead

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over a year ago

"So I'm hoping you were man enough to challenge the racism at time. But I'm guessing you didn't because you say you often hear it. If I was you I'd distance myself from these people.

Yes, I challenge them on it. However, rather like you, they pay little notice, and merely make excuses as to why their comments 'aren't racist.'

What racist comment have I made?"

I didn't say that you'd made any racist comments...I was saying that, like you, these friends of my pay no attention to my criticisms.

Just as you twist and turn to convince yourself that 'white privilege' doesn't exist; they twist and turn to convince themselves that they aren't being racists.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?

Neither is OK. But your accusation of racism was ignorant.

A point made much earlier. But then you've ignored many points."

I would like to second that you (not this poster, but the one quoted by them) has a blinkered view. I have a mixed race family and have experienced white privilege first hand and challenge it .... loads of people have given you examples, so why not listen

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

Well actually I don't feel I get preferential treatment every day, but pls tell me where I receive it so I can go back and ask to complain. But I do and always will get involved if I see mistreatment to anyone, young, old, black , white, male or female! I never turn a blind eye or leave someone vulnerable to be a victim to anybody else. I give to charity, feed the homeless and when my friends need help or advice I'm the first one they phone. So yes I do care and I definitely make a fuss

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

You get preferential treatment every day as Devon Newbie has explained ... and threesumqueen ... they have given numerous examples. You just have not experienced what it is like not to have this privilege ....

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?

Neither is OK. But your accusation of racism was ignorant.

A point made much earlier. But then you've ignored many points.

If I hadn't listened, I wouldn't have asked how they handle it!! It's a conversation, you don't just tell me something and then I say... oh okay then, thanks . I listened then replied

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?

Neither is OK. But your accusation of racism was ignorant.

A point made much earlier. But then you've ignored many points.

If I hadn't listened, I wouldn't have asked how they handle it!! It's a conversation, you don't just tell me something and then I say... oh okay then, thanks . I listened then replied "

Are you okay having a conversation with blinkered Muppets then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

Of course you don't feel you are getting preferential treatment because it's the norm as you are a white male. That's the whole fucking point!

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

No they say they received them ! I haven't. I've not been promoted at work, fast tracked at NHS or been in a racist church. So im still no feeling privileges. You seem to be generalising all whites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the point you are missing is quite often you will receive that privilege without even realising

When you have applied for jobs you wouldn't know who else was applying ??!!!

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?

Neither is OK. But your accusation of racism was ignorant.

A point made much earlier. But then you've ignored many points.

If I hadn't listened, I wouldn't have asked how they handle it!! It's a conversation, you don't just tell me something and then I say... oh okay then, thanks . I listened then replied

Are you okay having a conversation with blinkered Muppets then?"

Obviously, otherwise this thread would be much shorter

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I think the point you are missing is quite often you will receive that privilege without even realising

When you have applied for jobs you wouldn't know who else was applying ??!!!"

It's too obvious. I am not going to bother trying to explain any more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To generalise all whites as privileged is racist. I've not been given any privileges because I'm white, so I take offence to the term"

Actually, highlighting that all white people are privileged is not 'racist.'

It is simply an acknowledgement of the fact that our society is structured in such a way that a white person will always have an advantage over a person of colour who comes from a similar background.

No one is accusing all white people of being racists simply because they enjoy this privilege. They are stating that white people need to recognise the existence of this privilege and ensure that they do not perpetuate it.

To refer to another type of privilege, I suffer from a visible disability. When my girlfriend and I are out together, people will often question her about the nature of my disability and ignore me, particularly if I am in a wheelchair.

This is in spite of the fact that my disability affects my LEGS, not my powers of speech, my hearing or my cognitive faculties. They see the chair or the crutches and assume that I am unable to communicate.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It isn't racist to state somebody has a silly white head, if indeed they do.

What's the colour of my head got to do with it. If I said to a black man... get you black arse out of my house, would that be racist??

No.

If you said you're not welcome because you're black, that's racist.

If you state somebody is black, that's a fact.

So you would happily call someone a black idiot? You see nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't do that, no.

But I raised the point only to highlight your ignorance.

There are communities in this country where white people are a minority and living in circumstances where their anger and frustration are understandable.

But then there are people whose anger is only born out of their ignorance and has no genuine basis.

I think you belong to one of those groups.

So you can share your opinion but those who disagree with you are blinkered muppets ??

No only a few of you. With your dull replies. Can you answer why it's ok for someone to tell me to wobble my white head. But you wouldn't call someone a black idiot?

Neither is OK. But your accusation of racism was ignorant.

A point made much earlier. But then you've ignored many points.

If I hadn't listened, I wouldn't have asked how they handle it!! It's a conversation, you don't just tell me something and then I say... oh okay then, thanks . I listened then replied

Are you okay having a conversation with blinkered Muppets then?

Obviously, otherwise this thread would be much shorter "

You just aren't understanding the obvious point everyone else is making .... try being in someone else's shoes for a week, and you would see it as plain as day

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By *aughtybooyMan
over a year ago

maidstone

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

Of course you don't feel you are getting preferential treatment because it's the norm as you are a white male. That's the whole fucking point!

Pls pls stop making such stupid comments, this conversation is obviously to much for your grey matter. Your imput is pointless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the point you are missing is quite often you will receive that privilege without even realising

When you have applied for jobs you wouldn't know who else was applying ??!!!"

That won't stop him getting angry at who they might have been

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"It's another term promoted by thick left wing liberals who are offended by everything

Err...no.

It's a term used by people who are intelligent enough to recognise that they automatically have an easier path through life than others.

As a white man, I have received a DEMONSTRABLE advantage in all areas of life, including employment, educational opportunities and healthcare access.

Also, when I walk down the street, no-one looks at me in a suspicious manner, or crosses the road to avoid me, or makes racially-offensive jokes in my hearing.

Likewise, when I attend Mass at Christmas, I never have to listen to other members of the congregation complaining that my 'race' is 'taking over the church.'

Why don't you decline the advantages then, it seems a bit hypocritical to carry on taking all these benefits in all these places without saying how unfair it is.

It Si not about declining the advantage, it is about speaking up for those that don't have it .... so those who are doing it realise they are doing it

Of course you don't feel you are getting preferential treatment because it's the norm as you are a white male. That's the whole fucking point!

Pls pls stop making such stupid comments, this conversation is obviously to much for your grey matter. Your imput is pointless "

Tillytally is absolutely right though. You may want to re-evaluate whose grey matter can't process the comments everyone is making