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"Not in the slightest. In fact if anything I find political debate stimulating. I have found that those who interest, challenge and stimulate me mentally are equally interesting, challenging and stimulating sexually." Agreed, someone who can indulge in a good discussion. How about those who dismiss a whole segment if the population from their play? Does anyone assume it's because of their belief system, eg. No bi males or no blacks .... | |||
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" How about those who dismiss a whole segment if the population from their play? Does anyone assume it's because of their belief system, eg. No bi males or no blacks ...." I think we all have prejudices. Some are more obvious than others, some are more understandable than others, most are illogical and driven by ignorance and fear with one or two by an illicit attraction, but all are learned. Personally I have to say the strangest one I have found are the couples who advertise for only men to join them in threesomes but do not want contact with bi men. | |||
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" How about those who dismiss a whole segment if the population from their play? Does anyone assume it's because of their belief system, eg. No bi males or no blacks .... I think we all have prejudices. Some are more obvious than others, some are more understandable than others, most are illogical and driven by ignorance and fear with one or two by an illicit attraction, but all are learned. Personally I have to say the strangest one I have found are the couples who advertise for only men to join them in threesomes but do not want contact with bi men." Just have to check that isn't us .... oh no, we are okay there .... | |||
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" How about those who dismiss a whole segment if the population from their play? Does anyone assume it's because of their belief system, eg. No bi males or no blacks .... I think we all have prejudices. Some are more obvious than others, some are more understandable than others, most are illogical and driven by ignorance and fear with one or two by an illicit attraction, but all are learned. Personally I have to say the strangest one I have found are the couples who advertise for only men to join them in threesomes but do not want contact with bi men." . Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick  | |||
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" How about those who dismiss a whole segment if the population from their play? Does anyone assume it's because of their belief system, eg. No bi males or no blacks .... I think we all have prejudices. Some are more obvious than others, some are more understandable than others, most are illogical and driven by ignorance and fear with one or two by an illicit attraction, but all are learned. Personally I have to say the strangest one I have found are the couples who advertise for only men to join them in threesomes but do not want contact with bi men.. Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick "It is either these men think they are so irresistible that bi men will jump them or that they think bi men are disgusting scum who deserve to be eradicated from the face of the earth. Do straight women think like that about bi women? Sadly some do .... it goes along with the 'bi lifestyle' assumption. I think it's political .... no 'others' who don't conform to the norm here! My bi guy is the pickiest guy I have ever met ... | |||
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"I am a rampant bleeding heart liberal feminazi sapiosexual, and rarely dismiss anyone from getting into my pants. However I refuse to discuss politics and religion on my meets as the subjects are too personal, and usually too emotional for a NSA sexual meet. Having said that, I probably wouldn't go any further than a social meet with members of EDL or Britain First, and they would certainly feel the same about me. Not enough in common." We actually bowed out of a group play event because one of the participants wouldn't play with black guys .... I just thought it would be difficult if my OH had touched her by accident. I guess it depends what you mean by politics. I take it to mean the broadest sense, not just political parties etc | |||
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"I am a rampant bleeding heart liberal feminazi sapiosexual, and rarely dismiss anyone from getting into my pants. However I refuse to discuss politics and religion on my meets as the subjects are too personal, and usually too emotional for a NSA sexual meet. Having said that, I probably wouldn't go any further than a social meet with members of EDL or Britain First, and they would certainly feel the same about me. Not enough in common. We actually bowed out of a group play event because one of the participants wouldn't play with black guys .... I just thought it would be difficult if my OH had touched her by accident. I guess it depends what you mean by politics. I take it to mean the broadest sense, not just political parties etc" It's only political parties and (maybe) religion that would affect who I choose to play with. Politics in the broader sense of the word would not. | |||
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" How about those who dismiss a whole segment if the population from their play? Does anyone assume it's because of their belief system, eg. No bi males or no blacks .... I think we all have prejudices. Some are more obvious than others, some are more understandable than others, most are illogical and driven by ignorance and fear with one or two by an illicit attraction, but all are learned. Personally I have to say the strangest one I have found are the couples who advertise for only men to join them in threesomes but do not want contact with bi men.. Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick
It is either these men think they are so irresistible that bi men will jump them or that they think bi men are disgusting scum who deserve to be eradicated from the face of the earth. Do straight women think like that about bi women? Sadly some do .... it goes along with the 'bi lifestyle' assumption. I think it's political .... no 'others' who don't conform to the norm here! My bi guy is the pickiest guy I have ever met ...". It could be many things!... We're a bizarre species | |||
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"I am a rampant bleeding heart liberal feminazi sapiosexual, and rarely dismiss anyone from getting into my pants. However I refuse to discuss politics and religion on my meets as the subjects are too personal, and usually too emotional for a NSA sexual meet. Having said that, I probably wouldn't go any further than a social meet with members of EDL or Britain First, and they would certainly feel the same about me. Not enough in common." Our views are somewhat similar. We are happy to chat with anyone at a club or event. And we rarely bring politics into it at all. And we have shagged those across the political spectrum! That said Vik is off for a meet tomorrow with a guy which, in part, was probably due to a very engaging conversation they had at a club that involved politics. The guy had clearly travelled a lot around the world and had a lot of different viewpoints and clearly had something between his ears as well as his legs. Both of us find intelligence sexy too. Where things get an issue is when politics morph into ethics. things like racism, homo/transphobia, etc. E.g. we were on a meet and later afterwards discovered that the guy was quite racist. We decided we didn't want to meet again due to that. Similarly I was at a social party with a bunch of swingers from here that I'd not met before and and conversation was mainly the blokes talking about their time serving in Afghanistan (building toilets from what it seemed).. and a fair bit of 'casual racism' in the conversation from them that I didn't feel comfortable with. I shortly excused myself and left. If we saw a profile or photos on here of someone that indicated something that didn't fit with our values (EDL poster in the background, racist wording on the profile) then we'd just move on... plenty of other people on here to meet. Just like we would do for someone who didn't attract us physically. -Matt | |||
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"I am a rampant bleeding heart liberal feminazi sapiosexual, and rarely dismiss anyone from getting into my pants. However I refuse to discuss politics and religion on my meets as the subjects are too personal, and usually too emotional for a NSA sexual meet. Having said that, I probably wouldn't go any further than a social meet with members of EDL or Britain First, and they would certainly feel the same about me. Not enough in common. Our views are somewhat similar. We are happy to chat with anyone at a club or event. And we rarely bring politics into it at all. And we have shagged those across the political spectrum! That said Vik is off for a meet tomorrow with a guy which, in part, was probably due to a very engaging conversation they had at a club that involved politics. The guy had clearly travelled a lot around the world and had a lot of different viewpoints and clearly had something between his ears as well as his legs. Both of us find intelligence sexy too. Where things get an issue is when politics morph into ethics. things like racism, homo/transphobia, etc. E.g. we were on a meet and later afterwards discovered that the guy was quite racist. We decided we didn't want to meet again due to that. Similarly I was at a social party with a bunch of swingers from here that I'd not met before and and conversation was mainly the blokes talking about their time serving in Afghanistan (building toilets from what it seemed).. and a fair bit of 'casual racism' in the conversation from them that I didn't feel comfortable with. I shortly excused myself and left. If we saw a profile or photos on here of someone that indicated something that didn't fit with our values (EDL poster in the background, racist wording on the profile) then we'd just move on... plenty of other people on here to meet. Just like we would do for someone who didn't attract us physically. -Matt" That's a good way to put it, thanks for that .... ethical politics? | |||
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"Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick "LoL! Just don't tell them how good it feels to have another cock sliding up and down yours with a pair of balls hammering against yours while your both being cunt kissed and held by a cumming hot wet welcoming lady.   | |||
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"Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick
LoL!
Just don't tell them how good it feels to have another cock sliding up and down yours with a pair of balls hammering against yours while your both being cunt kissed and held by a cumming hot wet welcoming lady. "Carry on like that and this thread will be moved to the lounge .... we will have people complaining it isn't about politics at all .... | |||
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"Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick
LoL!
Just don't tell them how good it feels to have another cock sliding up and down yours with a pair of balls hammering against yours while your both being cunt kissed and held by a cumming hot wet welcoming lady.
Carry on like that and this thread will be moved to the lounge .... we will have people complaining it isn't about politics at all .... "OK, fixed that for you:
Just don't tell them how good it feels to have another cock sliding up and down yours with a pair of balls hammering against yours while your both being cunt kissed and held by a cumming hot wet welcoming Tory-voting lady.
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"That's a good way to put it, thanks for that .... ethical politics? " I dunno... I've always thought of ethics and politics as orthogonal subjects. You can agree with someones ethics but not their politics and vice versa. -Matt | |||
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"Aggghhhh he accidentally touched my dick
LoL!
Just don't tell them how good it feels to have another cock sliding up and down yours with a pair of balls hammering against yours while your both being cunt kissed and held by a cumming hot wet welcoming lady.
Carry on like that and this thread will be moved to the lounge .... we will have people complaining it isn't about politics at all ....
OK, fixed that for you:
Just don't tell them how good it feels to have another cock sliding up and down yours with a pair of balls hammering against yours while your both being cunt kissed and held by a cumming hot wet welcoming Tory-voting lady.
-Matt"forgive me for lowering the tone even more but I think you should plug in your headphones and listen to the words of this link! 
https://youtu.be/ibDLLDOYfmY
and I will now go take a 'time out' and sit on the naughty step in the lounge  | |||
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"Having thought a bit more on this (it takes me a while to get the old grey matter running) I wouldn't make too much of an effort with people who display blatant homophobia or misogyny. I had a sort of FB who I liked well enough but once he started saying that women and gays should shut up as we made too much fuss about our respective problems I went off him a bit. We are all allowed our views but we are also allowed to find other views abhorrent if they make us uncomfortable." Exactly. I don't *have* to shag anyone If I don't agree with some of their characteristics then I won't... be they political, social or physical things.
It's like the people that bleat on here about their freedom of speech being curtailed just because someone doesn't agree with them on a forum. They have their right to their view, and others have the right to agree or disagree with it. And the right to voice their agreement or disagreement. The fact they are able to voice their views on here in the first place without being persecuted by the government means they have Freedom of Speech.
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"Having thought a bit more on this (it takes me a while to get the old grey matter running) I wouldn't make too much of an effort with people who display blatant homophobia or misogyny. I had a sort of FB who I liked well enough but once he started saying that women and gays should shut up as we made too much fuss about our respective problems I went off him a bit. We are all allowed our views but we are also allowed to find other views abhorrent if they make us uncomfortable. Exactly. I don't *have* to shag anyone If I don't agree with some of their characteristics then I won't... be they political, social or physical things.
It's like the people that bleat on here about their freedom of speech being curtailed just because someone doesn't agree with them on a forum. They have their right to their view, and others have the right to agree or disagree with it. And the right to voice their agreement or disagreement. The fact they are able to voice their views on here in the first place without being persecuted by the government means they have Freedom of Speech.
-Matt"Agreed about the free speech, but also we have the right to opt out when it gets too offensive, both in a debate and in play. There is a common theme there | |||
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"I'm thinking about hunting girls on thrones of finest English leather, boot leather, spurs and tight jodhpurs! "My OH has a thing about this get up ... we even go to stable stores in the country to look at some ..... I think that's a new fetish | |||
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"Agreed about the free speech, but also we have the right to opt out when it gets too offensive, both in a debate and in play. There is a common theme there " I find strong political views a bit off-putting, whichever type it is, which is why I tend to avoid this particular forum. I agree that even in a debate we can remove ourselves without rancour as, to be honest, this site is supposed to be fun. | |||
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"Agreed about the free speech, but also we have the right to opt out when it gets too offensive, both in a debate and in play. There is a common theme there I find strong political views a bit off-putting, whichever type it is, which is why I tend to avoid this particular forum. I agree that even in a debate we can remove ourselves without rancour as, to be honest, this site is supposed to be fun." I think it's time for the debaters to take the forum back. Post brexit, there are other things to talk about, politically, and there are far too many personal spats being acted out here. I just wish I could think of some other threads ....that wouldn't dissolve into pettiness. | |||
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"My OH has a thing about this get up ... we even go to stable stores in the country to look at some ..... I think that's a new fetish" You should take up riding... A rising trot develops a certain rhythm and inner thigh grip that is very stimulating. Of course when you get past the canter and into a full gallop then control of the stallion your riding is the key!  | |||
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"Agreed about the free speech, but also we have the right to opt out when it gets too offensive, both in a debate and in play. There is a common theme there I find strong political views a bit off-putting, whichever type it is, which is why I tend to avoid this particular forum. I agree that even in a debate we can remove ourselves without rancour as, to be honest, this site is supposed to be fun. I think it's time for the debaters to take the forum back. Post brexit, there are other things to talk about, politically, and there are far too many personal spats being acted out here. I just wish I could think of some other threads ....that wouldn't dissolve into pettiness. " Well gender politics would be a good one but I can see that devolving into a slanging match quite quickly. Something to consider this year, certainly. Politics shouldn't just be about whose side you're on. | |||
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"I find strong political views a bit off-putting, whichever type it is, which is why I tend to avoid this particular forum. I agree that even in a debate we can remove ourselves without rancour as, to be honest, this site is supposed to be fun. I think it's time for the debaters to take the forum back. Post brexit, there are other things to talk about, politically, and there are far too many personal spats being acted out here. I just wish I could think of some other threads ....that wouldn't dissolve into pettiness. " I agree with you both, the debates here generally start well but degenerate into name calling and looking for ways to provoke others into saying something that justifies hitting the complain button in order to silence a view that cant be silenced by reasoned argument. But on the bright side since we got a political forum the incidences of threads being censored and closed has reduced significantly so either our debating skills or our self discipline is improving. | |||
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"Well gender politics would be a good one but I can see that devolving into a slanging match quite quickly. Something to consider this year, certainly. Politics shouldn't just be about whose side you're on." I have never really understood gender politics. I have some understanding of some gender issues and I would not be surprised to find my views are at best simplistic, but I for one would love you to start a thread. I will definitely chip in. | |||
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"I'm thinking about hunting girls on thrones of finest English leather, boot leather, spurs and tight jodhpurs!
My OH has a thing about this get up ... we even go to stable stores in the country to look at some ..... I think that's a new fetish"Great place to buy crops and other toys. | |||
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"I find strong political views a bit off-putting, whichever type it is, which is why I tend to avoid this particular forum. I agree that even in a debate we can remove ourselves without rancour as, to be honest, this site is supposed to be fun. I think it's time for the debaters to take the forum back. Post brexit, there are other things to talk about, politically, and there are far too many personal spats being acted out here. I just wish I could think of some other threads ....that wouldn't dissolve into pettiness. I agree with you both, the debates here generally start well but degenerate into name calling and looking for ways to provoke others into saying something that justifies hitting the complain button in order to silence a view that cant be silenced by reasoned argument. But on the bright side since we got a political forum the incidences of threads being censored and closed has reduced significantly so either our debating skills or our self discipline is improving." Threads are available rarely closed, yes, but they are more than bordering on offensive .... sometimes I think they should be. However, they do act as a filter .... honestly though, all the nastiness puts people off. Seems more people are posting on this thread and to my mind, its political ... | |||
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"Well gender politics would be a good one but I can see that devolving into a slanging match quite quickly. Something to consider this year, certainly. Politics shouldn't just be about whose side you're on. I have never really understood gender politics. I have some understanding of some gender issues and I would not be surprised to find my views are at best simplistic, but I for one would love you to start a thread. I will definitely chip in. " I agree, but not sure what the focus should be ...I will add my opinion, and I am always bringing an open mind | |||
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"I agree, but not sure what the focus should be ...I will add my opinion, and I am always bringing an open mind " Maybe Wyrdwoman can start by outlining what she understands gender issues to be, what needs addressing the most and why. I am sure that with a little guidance the thread will develop from there. | |||
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"Nit entirely sure I would do a post about gender politics justice, not knowing about specific LGBTQA issues. And just moaning about being female is not likely to attract a lively debate. "Yes, I agree. I guess it would be more along the lines of how gender politics has changed, for me .... if indeed it has | |||
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"By the way.... Anyone like that, I'm willing to meet "Us too ..... | |||
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"We just leave politics to the forums! " We agree on something then | |||
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"We just leave politics to the forums! " Same here, only place for politics is on this forum, i don't bring it up on my profile or in email exchanges with people (unless they email me about a thread on the politics forum). I generally don't discuss politics in swingers clubs, or very rarely if someone else brings it up. As someone who joined Vote Leave as a volunteer, and voted Leave and supports Brexit, some of my closest friends from swinging are Remain supporters who voted to Remain, we just don't talk about politics much when spending time together and we still get on now the same as we've always done. | |||
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