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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is it a worthy cause? A serious subject? Or a load of hot air?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it a worthy cause? A serious subject? Or a load of hot air? "

Well, it is rather an open ended question. What do you define as "gender politics?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

All that stuff about hetero normative roles, cis this, sapio the other

It's an actual subject you can study now. I wish we would all just get along

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All that stuff about hetero normative roles, cis this, sapio the other

It's an actual subject you can study now. I wish we would all just get along "

Ah, all that stuff.

Not really much to offer any debate on.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"All that stuff about hetero normative roles, cis this, sapio the other

It's an actual subject you can study now. I wish we would all just get along "

Well, we have gender roles and men and women are treated differently by society. I'm not sure why that's not worthy of study?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

In a scientific way sure it is interesting like other aspects of social science

As a political subject, I feel it's just stirring discontent. It's a trend by an overwhelming majority of girls who get brainwashed by seasoned (aka jaded) feminists

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"In a scientific way sure it is interesting like other aspects of social science

As a political subject, I feel it's just stirring discontent. It's a trend by an overwhelming majority of girls who get brainwashed by seasoned (aka jaded) feminists "

In my experience, its the opposite. A lot of girls seem to shun feminism these days.

I'm doing my best to bring my daughter up as a feminist in spite of this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Do you believe there is gross inequality? What is your aim for your daughters belief system?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Do you believe there is gross inequality? What is your aim for your daughters belief system?

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I believe that there is inequality, yes. There are still not-so-subtle pressures placed on girls from a young age to be a certain way - for example, the very heavy marketing of princessy stuff (and all that goes with it) to girls.

I've noticed, amongst younger women (and men, actually) a swing away from the more liberal attitudes towards sexuality and relationships that seemed to be the norm when I was teenaged/in my 20s. See: "slut shaming" for example. Boys seem to be encouraged to pressure girls, sexually.

Women are still pressured to look a certain way too, you only have to look at instagram to see this.

My daughter has quite a logical/mathematical brain and I try to make sure that we do "boy" things like fix cars etc to try and nurture this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Oh no you didn't.... Assigning gender roles to logical pursuits... Tut tut

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The inequality you are claiming is simply advertising... I'm talking about important stuff like rights and opportunities

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Oh no you didn't.... Assigning gender roles to logical pursuits... Tut tut "

I didn't assign them, society has/does. I'm trying to redress the balance. Speak to a group of 8 year old children and you'll notice by and large they still seem to follow persuits that conform to outdated ideas about gender. I'm not saying that you don't get exceptions, mind.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Maybe that's what just they like to do?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Maybe that's what just they like to do?

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Maybe it is, but you will find that many things encourage children at a sublimial level to behave a certain way. Have you got children? Having a daughter was quite the eye-opener for me.

Even when she was tiny, I can remember being on a minibus on the way to Twickenham with some (male) work colleagues, all three of whom had boys in the 10-14 age range. One of whom was telling us that he was asking his 12 year old son (who had a little "girlfriend") if he had got his hands in her knickers yet and if not, he needed to try harder....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

That's just one example of one bad parent....

You are right, there are little nudges in all directions by media and pop culture. It not an inequality thing... Between men and women anyway

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"That's just one example of one bad parent....

You are right, there are little nudges in all directions by media and pop culture. It not an inequality thing... Between men and women anyway "

Yeah, I'd put it down to that, but the other lads seemed to see it as being OK/the norm.

I made a mental note to keep an eye on young fellers in the future...

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