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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Answers on a postcard to the anti facist league

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Answers on a postcard to the anti facist league "

Ha ha

You mean the Comunist Stalinist League !

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ? "

Like any political party, It would depend entirely and wholly on the principles on which it was founded. Nothing more and nothing less.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

Like any political party, It would depend entirely and wholly on the principles on which it was founded. Nothing more and nothing less."

That would be good if it was true but it just isn't !

An E N P would be branded Racist within seconds of forming and you know it

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

Like any political party, It would depend entirely and wholly on the principles on which it was founded. Nothing more and nothing less.

That would be good if it was true but it just isn't !

An E N P would be branded Racist within seconds of forming and you know it "

Correct, politicians like Emily Thornberry already look down their noses with disgust at anyone who displays a St George's flag and we don't even have an E N P.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ? "

it would attract some of those from the far right who have tried to associate the cross of St George with their version of Nationalism..

not saying that all who would be interested in it would be of that ilk but common dog fuck suggests it would do..

anyway maybe UKIP will rebrand themselves if the union breaks up so wont that suffice..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the name could be 'softened', Plaid Cymru literally translates to Welsh Party. Their full name is now: Plaid Cymru - the Party of Wales. No mention of nationalism.

Maybe call it something like: Unity - the Party for England?

I would have no problem with an English National Party, but could understand why some might (BNP connotations).

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

What would they stand for?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ? "

I would assume that the English National Party would only contest seats in England (big assumption as its a fictitious party) and the SNP only contest seats in Scotland, so why do you think they would would be in conflict?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

I would assume that the English National Party would only contest seats in England (big assumption as its a fictitious party) and the SNP only contest seats in Scotland, so why do you think they would would be in conflict? "

Because they would acuse us of being racist like people do to UKIP

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

I would assume that the English National Party would only contest seats in England (big assumption as its a fictitious party) and the SNP only contest seats in Scotland, so why do you think they would would be in conflict?

Because they would acuse us of being racist like people do to UKIP "

Well it depends if you say racist things or not

Take Cliff Richard for example, I can't recall him ever saying something racist, and guess what, no one calls him racist! Same for David Attenborough, doesnt say racist things, isn't called a racist.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

I would assume that the English National Party would only contest seats in England (big assumption as its a fictitious party) and the SNP only contest seats in Scotland, so why do you think they would would be in conflict?

Because they would acuse us of being racist like people do to UKIP

Well it depends if you say racist things or not

Take Cliff Richard for example, I can't recall him ever saying something racist, and guess what, no one calls him racist! Same for David Attenborough, doesnt say racist things, isn't called a racist. "

We will see as I'm certain an E N P party will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

Well it depends if you say racist things or not

Take Cliff Richard for example, I can't recall him ever saying something racist, and guess what, no one calls him racist! Same for David Attenborough, doesnt say racist things, isn't called a racist. "

While that should be true quite often people displaying the St George's flag or the talk of something specifically English does seem to automatically get branded with the racist stick.

Doesn't help with the likes of the BNP though, but I've not actually heard them mentioned for a long time.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things.

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By *isdirtygirlCouple
over a year ago

somewhere out there


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

Like any political party, It would depend entirely and wholly on the principles on which it was founded. Nothing more and nothing less.

That would be good if it was true but it just isn't !

An E N P would be branded Racist within seconds of forming and you know it "

Seconds? You are optimistic! Nanoseconds I'd say.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

The English National Party has existed in various forms up until it rebranded itself as the "English Democrats" in 2005;

Though the English National Party is still a registered party; and the EDs and the ENP have the same registered secretary.

It is composed mainly of ex BNP members, and a few ex-UKIP members

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things."

Just because the openly state something doesnt mean that they or some of there members practice something else, just as some ukip members do . Nut cases and racists exist in all parties and pretending anythoing different is being blind to reality

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things.

Just because the openly state something doesnt mean that they or some of there members practice something else, just as some ukip members do . Nut cases and racists exist in all parties and pretending anythoing different is being blind to reality "

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things.

Just because the openly state something doesnt mean that they or some of there members practice something else, just as some ukip members do . Nut cases and racists exist in all parties and pretending anythoing different is being blind to reality "

What has that got to do with the post I made?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things."

You don't think there are some anti English elements within the SNP then?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"

You don't think there are some anti English elements within the SNP then? "

Quite likely as there are anti "something" in all parties, groups and indeed people.

We are not talking about that though are we. We are talking about the public policies as outlined in the articles of the Scottish national party and how it presents itself. It is promoting Scotland to be an equal, tolerant and outward looking society that is welcoming to anyone who adheres to those values.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ? "

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things.

Just because the openly state something doesnt mean that they or some of there members practice something else, just as some ukip members do . Nut cases and racists exist in all parties and pretending anythoing different is being blind to reality

What has that got to do with the post I made?"

You said the snp welcomed people and werent racist, as you think (at least some of) members of ukip are, I pointed out that some of both parties may well be, if you google it there are reports of some members of the snp have made racist comments

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x"

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then! "

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?"

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist."

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!"

Exactly because they are not treated as an equal. If the United Kingdom were today acting like the European Union, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland would all be equally represented in the (Brexit) negotiations that will change the direction of this Union forever. As it is, Mrs May says that these matters are not for the devolved Assemblies and therein lies the problem. Scotland just want an equal partnership as they would have if they were a member of the European Union.

And yes, despite what you have been told, the European Union is a collection of independent nations and we have always had the freedom from which we have just voted. The difference being that the European Union employs around 25,000 civil servants (known in the right wing press as unelected bureaucrats) to enable the EU to function and ironically the UK is just about to employ 30,000 civil servants (unelected bureaucrats) to do the same thing in post Brexit Britain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!

Exactly because they are not treated as an equal. If the United Kingdom were today acting like the European Union, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland would all be equally represented in the (Brexit) negotiations that will change the direction of this Union forever. As it is, Mrs May says that these matters are not for the devolved Assemblies and therein lies the problem. Scotland just want an equal partnership as they would have if they were a member of the European Union.

And yes, despite what you have been told, the European Union is a collection of independent nations and we have always had the freedom from which we have just voted. The difference being that the European Union employs around 25,000 civil servants (known in the right wing press as unelected bureaucrats) to enable the EU to function and ironically the UK is just about to employ 30,000 civil servants (unelected bureaucrats) to do the same thing in post Brexit Britain."

The post you originally replied to of mine was questioning a poster regarding the name of a national party for England, which you quoted but didn't answer directly.

The SNP was campaigning for independence before the vote to leave the EU.

I'm glad you know exactly what it is I've been told, it saves me having to think for myself

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!

Exactly because they are not treated as an equal. If the United Kingdom were today acting like the European Union, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland would all be equally represented in the (Brexit) negotiations that will change the direction of this Union forever. As it is, Mrs May says that these matters are not for the devolved Assemblies and therein lies the problem. Scotland just want an equal partnership as they would have if they were a member of the European Union.

And yes, despite what you have been told, the European Union is a collection of independent nations and we have always had the freedom from which we have just voted. The difference being that the European Union employs around 25,000 civil servants (known in the right wing press as unelected bureaucrats) to enable the EU to function and ironically the UK is just about to employ 30,000 civil servants (unelected bureaucrats) to do the same thing in post Brexit Britain."

According to chris huggins who is a teaching fellow at Keele uni the base figue is 46,000,plus many others employed by countries ,and your figure of 30,000 being employed here had been debunked already as a made up figure from a deloitte employee who had no access to offical figures

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!

Exactly because they are not treated as an equal. If the United Kingdom were today acting like the European Union, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland would all be equally represented in the (Brexit) negotiations that will change the direction of this Union forever. As it is, Mrs May says that these matters are not for the devolved Assemblies and therein lies the problem. Scotland just want an equal partnership as they would have if they were a member of the European Union.

And yes, despite what you have been told, the European Union is a collection of independent nations and we have always had the freedom from which we have just voted. The difference being that the European Union employs around 25,000 civil servants (known in the right wing press as unelected bureaucrats) to enable the EU to function and ironically the UK is just about to employ 30,000 civil servants (unelected bureaucrats) to do the same thing in post Brexit Britain.

According to chris huggins who is a teaching fellow at Keele uni the base figue is 46,000,plus many others employed by countries ,and your figure of 30,000 being employed here had been debunked already as a made up figure from a deloitte employee who had no access to offical figures "

Ah but that's just what you are being told, don't forget!!

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!

Exactly because they are not treated as an equal. If the United Kingdom were today acting like the European Union, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland would all be equally represented in the (Brexit) negotiations that will change the direction of this Union forever. As it is, Mrs May says that these matters are not for the devolved Assemblies and therein lies the problem. Scotland just want an equal partnership as they would have if they were a member of the European Union.

And yes, despite what you have been told, the European Union is a collection of independent nations and we have always had the freedom from which we have just voted. The difference being that the European Union employs around 25,000 civil servants (known in the right wing press as unelected bureaucrats) to enable the EU to function and ironically the UK is just about to employ 30,000 civil servants (unelected bureaucrats) to do the same thing in post Brexit Britain.

According to chris huggins who is a teaching fellow at Keele uni the base figue is 46,000,plus many others employed by countries ,and your figure of 30,000 being employed here had been debunked already as a made up figure from a deloitte employee who had no access to offical figures

Ah but that's just what you are being told, don't forget!!"

Yes but he's an expert and deloitte said the second bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

If the English National Party existed with the aim of recreating the Kingdom as a nation of equal partners where England would not subjugate Wales, N Ireland and Scotland but instead would create a Union of four equals then I doubt it would be viewed as racist.

So why do the Scottish National Party want independence from the Union then? They have no interest in being in a partnership!

Exactly because they are not treated as an equal. If the United Kingdom were today acting like the European Union, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland would all be equally represented in the (Brexit) negotiations that will change the direction of this Union forever. As it is, Mrs May says that these matters are not for the devolved Assemblies and therein lies the problem. Scotland just want an equal partnership as they would have if they were a member of the European Union.

And yes, despite what you have been told, the European Union is a collection of independent nations and we have always had the freedom from which we have just voted. The difference being that the European Union employs around 25,000 civil servants (known in the right wing press as unelected bureaucrats) to enable the EU to function and ironically the UK is just about to employ 30,000 civil servants (unelected bureaucrats) to do the same thing in post Brexit Britain.

According to chris huggins who is a teaching fellow at Keele uni the base figue is 46,000,plus many others employed by countries ,and your figure of 30,000 being employed here had been debunked already as a made up figure from a deloitte employee who had no access to offical figures

Ah but that's just what you are being told, don't forget!!

Yes but he's an expert and deloitte said the second bit "

An expert, you say

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?"

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?"

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?"

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y."

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

"

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"The SNP openly state that Scotland should be an outward looking and inclusive society that is fair and just for everyone who lives in Scotland.

Unfortunately many people who are drawn to UKIP or the more steroid induced versions like Britain First, EDL and BNP broadcast an agenda that is the polar opposite of the SNP pitch. British and English nationalism has (to date) been much more about policies that are divisive, exclusive and inward looking.

An English National party that steps up to the plate with a tolerant, inclusive, fair and outward looking agenda would most definately NOT be labelled racist. Unfortunately, the motives of the people who appear to want to support an English Nationalist party are not interested in any of those things."

However many SNP supporters appear to be very narrow minded and quite happy to intimidate non supporters during the referendum campaign. I do not think that they are as outward looking as they claim.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for."

How would it not be possible to understand what you are voting for .? This does not make sense. We all receive election literature during the various campaigns ?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for."

No you haven't answered it. Because you don't like the answer. Not unusual for you though.

I guess that means that the SNP ,being the Scottish NATIONAL PARTY ,are all stupid xenophobes too

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for.

No you haven't answered it. Because you don't like the answer. Not unusual for you though.

I guess that means that the SNP ,being the Scottish NATIONAL PARTY ,are all stupid xenophobes too

"

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for. How would it not be possible to understand what you are voting for .? This does not make sense. We all receive election literature during the various campaigns ?. "

It makes perfect sense if you think most Brexiters cant read and are stupid.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for. How would it not be possible to understand what you are voting for .? This does not make sense. We all receive election literature during the various campaigns ?.

It makes perfect sense if you think most Brexiters cant read and are stupid. "

My apologies . I like your thinking. I fall into the class of being stupid and unable to read .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then! "

No I like things straight forward

I'm an English Nationalist

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for.

No you haven't answered it. Because you don't like the answer. Not unusual for you though.

I guess that means that the SNP ,being the Scottish NATIONAL PARTY ,are all stupid xenophobes too

"

You question was why shouldn't the OP call his party the English National Party.

YOU said, not me, that it would be "full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for". If that's what you want this fictitious party to be, fine call it that, if you don't want the party to be like that, call it something else.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Been interesting reading the posts

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for. How would it not be possible to understand what you are voting for .? This does not make sense. We all receive election literature during the various campaigns ?.

It makes perfect sense if you think most Brexiters cant read and are stupid. My apologies . I like your thinking. I fall into the class of being stupid and unable to read . "

Me too and over 17 million others.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If we had an English National Party ?

How do you all think it would be perceived and why ?

Would the S N P say fair play ?

Hmmmm I wonder ?

It would probably be perceived as being a far right racist party, full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for x

I think perhaps the OP should pick a different name for his party then!

Why? There is a Scottish National Party?

Would you want to create a far right party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for?

Don't care to answer the question I asked in polite response to yours then?

Well I was intending to answer your question.

The OP said lets call a party X, you said it will attract Y, I said dont don't call it X then, unless of course you want a party of Y.

No I didn't say it would attract a group of people. I gave my opinion on HOW it would be perceived. Different

So care you answer the post now?

I've answered it and you've answered it already. Unless you want to create a party full of little Englanders,xenophobes, whose supporters were stupid and unable to understand what they are voting for. How would it not be possible to understand what you are voting for .? This does not make sense. We all receive election literature during the various campaigns ?.

It makes perfect sense if you think most Brexiters cant read and are stupid. My apologies . I like your thinking. I fall into the class of being stupid and unable to read .

Me too and over 17 million others. "

You guys know you are taking the piss out of the bit quoted from the other person right? Thats why they think ENP voters would be like.

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