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"The generosity of Donald Trump amazes me, Donald Trump has refused to accept the Presidential salary of $400,000 dollars per year. In his first television interview on 60 minutes with Lesley Stahl he said, "I'm not taking the salary. I think by law i have to take $1, so i'll take $1 a year." By doing this Trump is following in the footsteps of J F Kennedy and Herbert Hoover who both donated their entire Presidential salary to charity. www.cbsnews.com/news/did-donald-trump-say-hed-refuse-to-take-a-salary-as-president/" just been watching a few videos on this and still the US media attack him for NOT taking the full wage. they say hes being unconstitutional by not taking it 
also I just read that hes making anyone that becomes part of his team sign a form saying that they can not accept any lobbyist money for favours, meaning that all decisions will be for the good of the people and not corporate interests.
And still the media whine.
hes not even in office yet and already russia and US tensions are relaxing and still the media bitch.
the guy could cure cancer and the liberal media woukd still find something to cry about. | |||
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"The generosity of Donald Trump amazes me, Donald Trump has refused to accept the Presidential salary of $400,000 dollars per year. In his first television interview on 60 minutes with Lesley Stahl he said, "I'm not taking the salary. I think by law i have to take $1, so i'll take $1 a year." By doing this Trump is following in the footsteps of J F Kennedy and Herbert Hoover who both donated their entire Presidential salary to charity. www.cbsnews.com/news/did-donald-trump-say-hed-refuse-to-take-a-salary-as-president/" His generosity knows no bounds 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3804129/Secret-Service-spent-1-6-million-flights-agents-protect-Trump-goes-reimburse-Donald-private-jet.html | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy?" I'll give you the same reply you gave me in your thread with the same title.....Try to stick to the OP, what do you think about this story? | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy? I'll give you the same reply you gave me in your thread with the same title.....Try to stick to the OP, what do you think about this story? " In fairness to CLCC it is on the OP. Trump has spanked the US for $6M during the campaign, but is promoting his man of the people thing by turning down $0.4M | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy? I'll give you the same reply you gave me in your thread with the same title.....Try to stick to the OP, what do you think about this story? " I think it's a cynical gesture that is essentially meaningless. He's putting his kids in charge of all his companies, which essentially means he'll still be running them. Conflicts of interests all over the place. | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy? I'll give you the same reply you gave me in your thread with the same title.....Try to stick to the OP, what do you think about this story? In fairness to CLCC it is on the OP. Trump has spanked the US for $6M during the campaign, but is promoting his man of the people thing by turning down $0.4M" My post on CLCC's thread was on the OP, but that was the reply I got from them. | |||
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" My post on CLCC's thread was on the OP, but that was the reply I got from them. " Maybe, but if we all replicate things from people we disagree with it, spirals down into a playground squabble. Rise above. | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy? I'll give you the same reply you gave me in your thread with the same title.....Try to stick to the OP, what do you think about this story? In fairness to CLCC it is on the OP. Trump has spanked the US for $6M during the campaign, but is promoting his man of the people thing by turning down $0.4M My post on CLCC's thread was on the OP, but that was the reply I got from them. " You ignored the OP on my thread, referred to a separate thread and then asked a separate question, then after that you plagiarised my title and started your own thread. | |||
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"CLCC , Centaur, just comment on the thread you are in then. Forget the previous who said what and thread title pinching, or it never ends. What about the $400k / $6M stuff ????" Well imagine you went to chat to your boss, and told them that you were no longer going to take a salary, but instead you were going to take 15 times your salary in expenses, would they be shaking your hand and thanking you for being a kind and generous human being, or would they laugh you out of the office and tell you to get back to work? | |||
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"CLCC , Centaur, just comment on the thread you are in then. Forget the previous who said what and thread title pinching, or it never ends. What about the $400k / $6M stuff ???? Well imagine you went to chat to your boss, and told them that you were no longer going to take a salary, but instead you were going to take 15 times your salary in expenses, would they be shaking your hand and thanking you for being a kind and generous human being, or would they laugh you out of the office and tell you to get back to work?" You mean like Farage and Ukip claiming £400,000 from taxpayers to spend on the Leave campaign in the referendum, compared to Cameron and the Remain campaign claiming 15 times the amount (£9 million) taxpayers money for their side? Why are you not comparing difference in the totals there? | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy? I'll give you the same reply you gave me in your thread with the same title.....Try to stick to the OP, what do you think about this story? In fairness to CLCC it is on the OP. Trump has spanked the US for $6M during the campaign, but is promoting his man of the people thing by turning down $0.4M My post on CLCC's thread was on the OP, but that was the reply I got from them. You ignored the OP on my thread, referred to a separate thread and then asked a separate question, then after that you plagiarised my title and started your own thread." I didn't ignore the OP on your thread, I questioned the validity of the link on it. I also made a reference to the presidential salary which Trump has refused to take and you said It was nothing to do with the OP. You are making reference to payment for the secret service on this thread, which has nothing to do with the Op. | |||
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"If the salary is $400k a year, in a 4 year term he would earn $1.6m. As mentioned in a similarly titled thread, Trump has already earned $6m from the federal government just flying the Secret Service around. So how does turning down $1.6m, but charging $6m make you a good guy?" Stick to the OP | |||
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"CLCC , Centaur, just comment on the thread you are in then. Forget the previous who said what and thread title pinching, or it never ends. What about the $400k / $6M stuff ???? Well imagine you went to chat to your boss, and told them that you were no longer going to take a salary, but instead you were going to take 15 times your salary in expenses, would they be shaking your hand and thanking you for being a kind and generous human being, or would they laugh you out of the office and tell you to get back to work? You mean like Farage and Ukip claiming £400,000 from taxpayers to spend on the Leave campaign in the referendum, compared to Cameron and the Remain campaign claiming 15 times the amount (£9 million) taxpayers money for their side? Why are you not comparing difference in the totals there? " Cameron is not being investigated? Bit of a clue there.. | |||
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"Well trump has kept another promise to start bring jobs back. he has been pretty tough on the car industry in particular ford, saying if he gets in he will put a 35% tarrif on ford on cars from mexico being sold to the US. now ford is closing down one of its ford plants in mexico and moving it to ohiho." That was quick. | |||
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"Well trump has kept another promise to start bring jobs back. he has been pretty tough on the car industry in particular ford, saying if he gets in he will put a 35% tarrif on ford on cars from mexico being sold to the US. now ford is closing down one of its ford plants in mexico and moving it to ohiho." No it isn't: 1. Under the United Auto Workers contract that expires in 2019; Fire cannot close down ( or move) any factories in US and re-open them in Mexico. So it hasn't; and that's nothing to do with Trump; even though he says he persuaded Ford not to move, he didn't; they didn't change their plans. 2. Ford is considering opening new factories in thecUS ( or redeveloping old ones) . No change there 3. Ford is continuing with its existing factories in Mexico, and its investment plan is unchanged; however, it will wait and see if Trump's attacks on Mexico actually happen, and take a view then. | |||
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"Well trump has kept another promise to start bring jobs back. he has been pretty tough on the car industry in particular ford, saying if he gets in he will put a 35% tarrif on ford on cars from mexico being sold to the US. now ford is closing down one of its ford plants in mexico and moving it to ohiho. No it isn't: 1. Under the United Auto Workers contract that expires in 2019; Fire cannot close down ( or move) any factories in US and re-open them in Mexico. So it hasn't; and that's nothing to do with Trump; even though he says he persuaded Ford not to move, he didn't; they didn't change their plans. 2. Ford is considering opening new factories in thecUS ( or redeveloping old ones) . No change there 3. Ford is continuing with its existing factories in Mexico, and its investment plan is unchanged; however, it will wait and see if Trump's attacks on Mexico actually happen, and take a view then." Don't bother with facts, these Trumpeters will twist anything into the weird narrative of Trump "sticking it to The Man" and him being a new brush, untainted by scandal. He's just agreed to pay $25m to compensate students he ripped off with his Trump University. I characterised the election as the crook vs. the fascist but really it was the crook vs. the fascist crook. | |||
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"Well trump has kept another promise to start bring jobs back. he has been pretty tough on the car industry in particular ford, saying if he gets in he will put a 35% tarrif on ford on cars from mexico being sold to the US. now ford is closing down one of its ford plants in mexico and moving it to ohiho. No it isn't: 1. Under the United Auto Workers contract that expires in 2019; Fire cannot close down ( or move) any factories in US and re-open them in Mexico. So it hasn't; and that's nothing to do with Trump; even though he says he persuaded Ford not to move, he didn't; they didn't change their plans. 2. Ford is considering opening new factories in thecUS ( or redeveloping old ones) . No change there 3. Ford is continuing with its existing factories in Mexico, and its investment plan is unchanged; however, it will wait and see if Trump's attacks on Mexico actually happen, and take a view then. Don't bother with facts, these Trumpeters will twist anything into the weird narrative of Trump "sticking it to The Man" and him being a new brush, untainted by scandal. He's just agreed to pay $25m to compensate students he ripped off with his Trump University. I characterised the election as the crook vs. the fascist but really it was the crook vs. the fascist crook." Trump, the "billionaire man of the people"  | |||
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"Interesting debate. Where's the OP? "Probably thrapping one off over a picture of Nigel Farage | |||
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"Interesting debate. Where's the OP?
Probably thrapping one off over a picture of Nigel Farage
"Well he is better looking than Hillary Clinton. | |||
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"I'm not about to tar all americans with the same brush, that's racist in its own way. But at the same time, there seems to be a large proportion of that country with very surprising views. I can only judge by snippets of experience visiting there on business and holiday, and speaking fairly often to Joe Public type americans on business. From that, I find these traits, higher than in the UK : Bore of detail much quicker Want quick answers, not explanations Higher levels of racism, barely hidden These are huge generalisations, and lots of people in the US don't have these things. I just think those things occur more over there and help contribute to Trumps success." Most people can see Trump has his faults but despite all his faults being exposed to the max by the Clinton campaign people still voted for him instead of Hillary Clinton. It's speaks volumes about the way people feel about Hillary Clinton if they would rather vote for someone like Trump. | |||
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" Most people can see Trump has his faults but despite all his faults being exposed to the max by the Clinton campaign people still voted for him instead of Hillary Clinton. It's speaks volumes about the way people feel about Hillary Clinton if they would rather vote for someone like Trump. " So do you believe that people actually want Trump and his policies, or just that they didn't want Clinton? | |||
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" Most people can see Trump has his faults but despite all his faults being exposed to the max by the Clinton campaign people still voted for him instead of Hillary Clinton. It's speaks volumes about the way people feel about Hillary Clinton if they would rather vote for someone like Trump. So do you believe that people actually want Trump and his policies, or just that they didn't want Clinton? " Same thing.....it was basically a binary choice. Rather like our referendum. Maybe people didn't want to leave the EU....but they wished to not remain in it even more! | |||
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" Most people can see Trump has his faults but despite all his faults being exposed to the max by the Clinton campaign people still voted for him instead of Hillary Clinton. It's speaks volumes about the way people feel about Hillary Clinton if they would rather vote for someone like Trump. So do you believe that people actually want Trump and his policies, or just that they didn't want Clinton? " I think it was; Some really want Trump Some are Republicans who wouldnt vite any other way, just because they always do ( and assumed that he would be tempered down if in office) Some were voting against Clinton Some were "I don't really care, but he's different, so let's give it a go A lot don't take this stuff seriously and think the X factor is more important, so voted for the most noise And a lot didn't vote at all because they wouldn't vote for Clinton. And a surprising number of middle class , well established Hispanics voted for Trump; because they actually don't want the illegal Hispanics " messing up their lives ". What got Trump in; and gives strength to others like him is that for the first time, over the last 20 or so years, in most " western" countries the "middle class" is getting poorer, not richer, ( They always got more prosperous.) And the very rich are getting less and less in number, but infinitely richer ( at the expense of the middle class) There was a report recently, for instance, that in UK, those born in the 1980s, are the first generation ( on average) to be poorer than their parents. I suspect the same applies in the US. | |||
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" Most people can see Trump has his faults but despite all his faults being exposed to the max by the Clinton campaign people still voted for him instead of Hillary Clinton. It's speaks volumes about the way people feel about Hillary Clinton if they would rather vote for someone like Trump. So do you believe that people actually want Trump and his policies, or just that they didn't want Clinton? " I think a combination. Clinton is a model of things they don't like. Lots are very redneck and he appeals. They cant see or don't care that a lot of what he says is bs or opportunist. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate." How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? " It's got nothing to do with PR | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR" Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? " Its not FPTP it's a electoral college system, with most states giving all their EC votes to the candidate with the most votes, and some splitting it between the two candidates. If you think of the Westminster system, in one election the government might have a majority of 50 MPs, another might have a majority of 5 MPs. I would argue that the government with a 50 seat majority had a bigger mandate than the one with 5. I was also making the point, that if the person that I quoted believes that people didn't vote for Trump, they voted AGAINST Clinton, that it doesn't give him much of a mandate, because they just voted for anyone but Clinton. I dont think I agree with that position, but that's what they said. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? " Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US" I sought of see what you mean . I think Trump may surprise us , but I do think in the laws of natural justice , Clinton won , she got more votes . | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US I sought of see what you mean . I think Trump may surprise us , but I do think in the laws of natural justice , Clinton won , she got more votes . " Usless you are suggesting some kind of job share for the president where if one gets 60% of the vote they can be president for 6 days, then the other one for 4 days and then they swap back again! | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US" . The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system" How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. "Hillary Clinton knew what the rules of the election were at the start. All the candidates knew the rules and the rules were the same for everyone. The electoral college rules were laid out from the get go. It's a bit late to start complaining about it now because your preferred candidate didn't win. Clinton lost and Trump won fair and square according to the rules that were laid out at the start. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system.
Hillary Clinton knew what the rules of the election were at the start. All the candidates knew the rules and the rules were the same for everyone. The electoral college rules were laid out from the get go. It's a bit late to start complaining about it now because your preferred candidate didn't win. Clinton lost and Trump won fair and square according to the rules that were laid out at the start. "I'm not complaining, you are the one who is saying that they didn't vote for Trump because they liked him, they only voted because they didn't want Clinton. That means he doesn't have much of a mandate. It's your arguement matey! | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. ". For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately. I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not"The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it.". No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion. It's a bit like Muslims the majority aren't crazy but there's a large minority that are nuts | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it..
No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion.
It's a bit like Muslims the majority aren't crazy but there's a large minority that are nuts"Problem is , it's a large minority ! | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it..
No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion.
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it..
No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion.
It's a bit like Muslims the majority aren't crazy but there's a large minority that are nuts
Maybe you need more than a quick look then". Like I said i did, as far as I could make out most were pro abortion, pro gay marriage... | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going?" Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it..
No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion.
It's a bit like Muslims the majority aren't crazy but there's a large minority that are nuts
Maybe you need more than a quick look then.
Like I said i did, as far as I could make out most were pro abortion, pro gay marriage...
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it..
No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion.
It's a bit like Muslims the majority aren't crazy but there's a large minority that are nuts
Maybe you need more than a quick look then.
Like I said i did, as far as I could make out most were pro abortion, pro gay marriage...
So you should be able to inform us of say some pro-equality legislation, or additional funding for sexual and reproductive health services passed in Republican controlled state legislatures then, right? ". Yes look at who voted in legislation for marijuana, Alabama? | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system. .
For all intents and purposes yes I agree but it's still not actually a two party system, that is part of the mental problem of believing it's a two party system, ingress is slow because people want change immediately.
I would point out at this stage that most republicans are pro abortion so is Donald trump going to be able to force that policy through..... Probably not
The republican party has been staunchly ANTI-abortion for decades. The state of sexual and reproductive health care in America is absolutely appalling and they should be ashamed of themselves for it..
No I had a quick look the other day the republicans aren't as staunchly anti abortion as you think, the problem they have is a minority of them are very very vocaly anti abortion.
It's a bit like Muslims the majority aren't crazy but there's a large minority that are nuts
Maybe you need more than a quick look then.
Like I said i did, as far as I could make out most were pro abortion, pro gay marriage...
So you should be able to inform us of say some pro-equality legislation, or additional funding for sexual and reproductive health services passed in Republican controlled state legislatures then, right? .
Yes look at who voted in legislation for marijuana, Alabama?"And which does that fall under? Equality legislation (LGBT+) or sexual and reproductive health (abortions etc.)? | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going?" I think it's as Boris Johnson described it in the week, a whinge-o-rama from Clinton supporters. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system.
Hillary Clinton knew what the rules of the election were at the start. All the candidates knew the rules and the rules were the same for everyone. The electoral college rules were laid out from the get go. It's a bit late to start complaining about it now because your preferred candidate didn't win. Clinton lost and Trump won fair and square according to the rules that were laid out at the start.
I'm not complaining, you are the one who is saying that they didn't vote for Trump because they liked him, they only voted because they didn't want Clinton. That means he doesn't have much of a mandate. It's your arguement matey! "Some voted for Trump because they liked him and the policies he put forward, some voted for Trump because they didn't want Clinton, there is no breakdown of the numbers for how or why people voted the way they did or what their motivation was so it is pointless in speculating. There is only one fact everyone needs to know and that is Trump won in a fair democratic process where the rules were equal to everyone concerned. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system.
Hillary Clinton knew what the rules of the election were at the start. All the candidates knew the rules and the rules were the same for everyone. The electoral college rules were laid out from the get go. It's a bit late to start complaining about it now because your preferred candidate didn't win. Clinton lost and Trump won fair and square according to the rules that were laid out at the start.
I'm not complaining, you are the one who is saying that they didn't vote for Trump because they liked him, they only voted because they didn't want Clinton. That means he doesn't have much of a mandate. It's your arguement matey!
Some voted for Trump because they liked him and the policies he put forward, some voted for Trump because they didn't want Clinton, there is no breakdown of the numbers for how or why people voted the way they did or what their motivation was so it is pointless in speculating. There is only one fact everyone needs to know and that is Trump won in a fair democratic process where the rules were equal to everyone concerned. "I guess you just don't understand what a mandate is. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system.
Hillary Clinton knew what the rules of the election were at the start. All the candidates knew the rules and the rules were the same for everyone. The electoral college rules were laid out from the get go. It's a bit late to start complaining about it now because your preferred candidate didn't win. Clinton lost and Trump won fair and square according to the rules that were laid out at the start.
I'm not complaining, you are the one who is saying that they didn't vote for Trump because they liked him, they only voted because they didn't want Clinton. That means he doesn't have much of a mandate. It's your arguement matey!
Some voted for Trump because they liked him and the policies he put forward, some voted for Trump because they didn't want Clinton, there is no breakdown of the numbers for how or why people voted the way they did or what their motivation was so it is pointless in speculating. There is only one fact everyone needs to know and that is Trump won in a fair democratic process where the rules were equal to everyone concerned.
I guess you just don't understand what a mandate is. "I guess you don't understand what democracy is. | |||
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"So he didn't win the public vote (he won the electoral college), and if people don't actually want his policies, he doesn't have much of a mandate. How can you say that when you are agsinst P R ? It's got nothing to do with PR Of course it has ! P R recognises the true public vote , ie percentages of the vote ! The American system is first past the post , and unless I've got you wrong I'm pretty sure you support that ! Now your questioning his mandate ? Plus PR only works in a multi party system, not a two party system like they have in the US. The US doesn't have a two party system for presidential elections there were 4 candidates on the ballot wasn't there?. It's a concept put into the mindset of the voter by the system that it's a two party system How could you have a proportionally represented president?
For all intents and purposes the US is a two party system.
Hillary Clinton knew what the rules of the election were at the start. All the candidates knew the rules and the rules were the same for everyone. The electoral college rules were laid out from the get go. It's a bit late to start complaining about it now because your preferred candidate didn't win. Clinton lost and Trump won fair and square according to the rules that were laid out at the start.
I'm not complaining, you are the one who is saying that they didn't vote for Trump because they liked him, they only voted because they didn't want Clinton. That means he doesn't have much of a mandate. It's your arguement matey!
Some voted for Trump because they liked him and the policies he put forward, some voted for Trump because they didn't want Clinton, there is no breakdown of the numbers for how or why people voted the way they did or what their motivation was so it is pointless in speculating. There is only one fact everyone needs to know and that is Trump won in a fair democratic process where the rules were equal to everyone concerned.
I guess you just don't understand what a mandate is.
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"A mandate is winning the election...under whatever system your country has decided on. Trump won. He has a mandate. Clinton lost. She doesn't! It isn't hard you know!"  | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! " I mean, what do you want to happen? | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen?" Start a ruckus? | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen?" Nothing, like what? | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Start a ruckus?" Or maybe they want Gina Miller to go over to America to start a court case against the Trump victory? | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Nothing, like what? " I don't know, that's what I mean. They have their system, he's elected. You don't like him, lots don't, but he's in??? | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Nothing, like what? I don't know, that's what I mean. They have their system, he's elected. You don't like him, lots don't, but he's in???" I know, but all Im saying is that he doesn't have much of a mandate, especially if what Centaur said is true, that people were just voting for the "not Clinton" candidate. It's not a controversial statement, but people seem to be reading something completely different to what I'm typing. | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Nothing, like what? I don't know, that's what I mean. They have their system, he's elected. You don't like him, lots don't, but he's in??? I know, but all Im saying is that he doesn't have much of a mandate, especially if what Centaur said is true, that people were just voting for the "not Clinton" candidate. It's not a controversial statement, but people seem to be reading something completely different to what I'm typing. " Ok, I see. The misreading will be from posts on other threads, where you seem to relish opportunities for the referendum result to be annulled / delayed / indefinately postponed. I'm not wanting to mix this into this thread, but it might explain the mis-reading you describe. | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Nothing, like what? I don't know, that's what I mean. They have their system, he's elected. You don't like him, lots don't, but he's in??? I know, but all Im saying is that he doesn't have much of a mandate, especially if what Centaur said is true, that people were just voting for the "not Clinton" candidate. It's not a controversial statement, but people seem to be reading something completely different to what I'm typing. Ok, I see. The misreading will be from posts on other threads, where you seem to relish opportunities for the referendum result to be annulled / delayed / indefinately postponed. I'm not wanting to mix this into this thread, but it might explain the mis-reading you describe." Or, maybe the words Im using are too complex or complicated for some forumites? Who knows? | |||
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" I'm not wanting to mix this into this thread, but it might explain the mis-reading you describe. Or, maybe the words Im using are too complex or complicated for some forumites? Who knows?" Hmmm, the I'm clever, they're stupid reason. I did try to explain why people might think you could have an ulterior motive, but go for what you know to be best. | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Nothing, like what? I don't know, that's what I mean. They have their system, he's elected. You don't like him, lots don't, but he's in??? I know, but all Im saying is that he doesn't have much of a mandate, especially if what Centaur said is true, that people were just voting for the "not Clinton" candidate. It's not a controversial statement, but people seem to be reading something completely different to what I'm typing. Ok, I see. The misreading will be from posts on other threads, where you seem to relish opportunities for the referendum result to be annulled / delayed / indefinately postponed. I'm not wanting to mix this into this thread, but it might explain the mis-reading you describe. Or, maybe the words Im using are too complex or complicated for some forumites? Who knows?" It seems the words i've typed on this thread are too complex and too complicated for you to understand as you've mis-quoted me twice already. | |||
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"CLCC , lots of people think Trump is a dick, myself included, but the election is finished, where's this all going? Its the politics forum of a swingers site, it's not going anywhere! I mean, what do you want to happen? Nothing, like what? I don't know, that's what I mean. They have their system, he's elected. You don't like him, lots don't, but he's in??? I know, but all Im saying is that he doesn't have much of a mandate, especially if what Centaur said is true, that people were just voting for the "not Clinton" candidate. It's not a controversial statement, but people seem to be reading something completely different to what I'm typing. " Example of mis-quote from CLCC above....what i actually said on the thread is some people voted for Trump because they like him and the policies he put forward, some people voted for Trump because they did'nt like Clinton, so there are 2 reasons why people voted for Trump, not just one as CLCC seems to think, and whichever way you look at it Trump has a mandate. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? " Too complicated for my small mind, cba. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba." I guess it must be... | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be..." What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be..." 'Oooh one less person who will argue with me, therefore I'm most intelligent and have won the debate' No, yet another person who thinks you will say anything to make yourself look best / correct. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be... 'Oooh one less person who will argue with me, therefore I'm most intelligent and have won the debate' No, yet another person who thinks you will say anything to make yourself look best / correct. " I asked a simple question, have you heard of large mandates, and small mandates. Its a Yes or No question. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ?" Why aren’t you questioning Centaur on why he is misquoting me? I never said Trump didn’t have a mandate as Centaur said, I said he had a small mandate, even smaller if what Centaur said is true. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ?" Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. " Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t? | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t? "Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be... 'Oooh one less person who will argue with me, therefore I'm most intelligent and have won the debate' No, yet another person who thinks you will say anything to make yourself look best / correct. I asked a simple question, have you heard of large mandates, and small mandates. Its a Yes or No question." It's like having an argument with the snotty know-it-all kid at school, normally sat at the front, sneering assuming he is more intelligent than everyone else, occasionally snitching to teacher, who also thinks he's a dick. Virtually every thread you put some kind of "aren't you intelligent enough" type quote. It's tiresome , wrong, arrogant, and makes you look like a petty fool. Have fun patronising other posters. I'm out of here. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread. "So have you heard of large and small mandates? | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be... 'Oooh one less person who will argue with me, therefore I'm most intelligent and have won the debate' No, yet another person who thinks you will say anything to make yourself look best / correct. I asked a simple question, have you heard of large mandates, and small mandates. Its a Yes or No question. It's like having an argument with the snotty know-it-all kid at school, normally sat at the front, sneering assuming he is more intelligent than everyone else, occasionally snitching to teacher, who also thinks he's a dick. Virtually every thread you put some kind of "aren't you intelligent enough" type quote. It's tiresome , wrong, arrogant, and makes you look like a petty fool. Have fun patronising other posters. I'm out of here." Or as others have said, debating with some forumites is like trying to play chess with pigeons. The size of a mandate is something commonly discussed in politics, Im sorry if you haven’t heard of it, but Im not going to pretend that I haven’t just to make you feel more comfortable. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?"Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it. "So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not? | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?"Trump won he has a mandate, get over it. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?
Trump won he has a mandate, get over it. "So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?
Trump won he has a mandate, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then."I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a mandate, you really do need to move on and get over it. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?
Trump won he has a mandate, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a mandate, you really do need to move on and get over it. "So does Trump have a large mandate, or a small one? | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?
Trump won he has a mandate, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a mandate, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large mandate, or a small one?"It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a mandate, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it. | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?
Trump won he has a mandate, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a mandate, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large mandate, or a small one?
It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a mandate, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it. "I haven’t once said that he doesn’t have a mandate. I was just trying to have a debate about the size of his mandate, but you and others seem to prefer that that isn’t even a topic for debate, or a political concept. Why would I be bitter about Trump winning? | |||
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"I've not read the last dozen or so posts on this thread, too full of flu to plough through the reams of quoted text. I'll just bring it back to the OP's original posting about Trump's "generosity" which so misunderstands and mis- characterises the man. Trump has claimed numerous times to have contributed to charity - military veterans, for instance, when he done nothing of the sort. He begrudgingly sent payments after he'd been shown to have lied and even these were not as much as his claims. So, regardless of the mandate, the response to the first posting is No, Trump is not generous in the slightest. You need to educate yourself." You are complicating the thread with fact; We live in a post truth world; facts are now irrelevant, unfortunately.  | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large cock, or a small cock? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small cocks?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a cock, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small cock or not?
Trump won he has a cock, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a cock, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large cock, or a small one?
It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a cock, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it.
I haven’t once said that he doesn’t have a mandate. I was just trying to have a debate about the size of his cock, but you and others seem to prefer that that isn’t even a topic for debate, or a political concept. Why would I be bitter about Trump winning?"This forums is hilarious when replacing mandate with cock 
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" This forums is hilarious when replacing mandate with cock
I may have edited the above quote "This more like it | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large mandate, or a small mandate? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small mandates?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a mandate, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small mandate or not?
Trump won he has a mandate, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a mandate, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large mandate, or a small one?
It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a mandate, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it. " | |||
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large cock, or a small cock? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small cocks?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a cock, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small cock or not?
Trump won he has a cock, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a cock, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large cock, or a small one?
It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a cock, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it.
I haven’t once said that he doesn’t have a mandate. I was just trying to have a debate about the size of his cock, but you and others seem to prefer that that isn’t even a topic for debate, or a political concept. Why would I be bitter about Trump winning?
This forums is hilarious when replacing mandate with cock
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large cock, or a small cock? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small cocks?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a cock, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small cock or not?
Trump won he has a cock, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a cock, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large cock, or a small one?
It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a cock, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it.
I haven’t once said that he doesn’t have a mandate. I was just trying to have a debate about the size of his cock, but you and others seem to prefer that that isn’t even a topic for debate, or a political concept. Why would I be bitter about Trump winning?
This forums is hilarious when replacing mandate with cock
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"Have you guys seriously never hear of a government having a large cock, or a small cock? Too complicated for my small mind, cba. I guess it must be...What about answering the question Centaur asked about mis-quotes CLCC ? Don't waste your breath fella, CLCC lives is cloud cookoo land. Because I have heard of simple political concepts that you haven’t?
Because you cant understand simple sentance structures that people are writing on this thread.
So have you heard of large and small cocks?
Its completely pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won, he has a cock, get over it.
So does that mean you have heard of, and understand the difference between a big and small cock or not?
Trump won he has a cock, get over it.
So I’m going to guess that you haven’t come across this concept before my posts, and haven’t bothered to find out what it is after I have mentioned it then.
I understand the concept perfectly well thanks, but as i said, its pointless if its a small or a large one, Trump won and he has a cock, you really do need to move on and get over it.
So does Trump have a large cock, or a small one?
It really doesn't matter to me if its a small one or a large one, Trump won the election and he has a cock, that is good enough for me. You clearly feel bitter about Trump winning, maybe you should seek help from a shrink if you are unable to move on from it.
I haven’t once said that he doesn’t have a mandate. I was just trying to have a debate about the size of his cock, but you and others seem to prefer that that isn’t even a topic for debate, or a political concept. Why would I be bitter about Trump winning?
This forums is hilarious when replacing mandate with cock
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"if you want to be technical re the mandate thing..... you could say that the republicans have a mandate to govern in the house and the senate..... and trump has an electoral mandate, but not the popular mandate..... buts that neither here nor there.... anyway..... glad i didn't join this thread earlier... some of the untruths on the republican side of the posters have given me a right giggle...... anyway i'm out because one of you decide to go all breitbart on me..." cya you only brought biased cnn propaganda anyways so we're not missing out on much. | |||
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"if you want to be technical re the mandate thing..... you could say that the republicans have a mandate to govern in the house and the senate..... and trump has an electoral mandate, but not the popular mandate..... buts that neither here nor there.... anyway..... glad i didn't join this thread earlier... some of the untruths on the republican side of the posters have given me a right giggle...... anyway i'm out because one of you decide to go all breitbart on me... cya you only brought biased cnn propaganda anyways so we're not missing out on much. "Yep CNN, (the Clinton News Network) that paragon of fair and balanced unbiased news. | |||
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