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"Geldolf is a scruffy red scumbag who can't sing, let him fuck off." you must be a fan of his, I wouldn't say he was that good. | |||
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"Geldolf is a scruffy red scumbag who can't sing, let him fuck off. you must be a fan of his, I wouldn't say he was that good." Ha ha, you got me damnit!  | |||
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"Bob Geldolf is Irish and therefore not a 'Sir', his knighthood is only an honorary award, as such he only has to go back across the Irish Sea to be back in the EU as he is an Irish citizen." nope; he prefers his 900-year-old country estate, why would he pop back over the sea | |||
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"I suppose he's free to spend his wealth in any way he sees fit, he's not short of a shilling. " that's because he likes to spend everyone else's wealth perhaps Johnny Fingers now suing him for £millions will lower his bank balance it appears Mondays will haunt Geldof to his grave  | |||
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"Bob Geldolf is Irish and therefore not a 'Sir', his knighthood is only an honorary award, as such he only has to go back across the Irish Sea to be back in the EU as he is an Irish citizen. nope; he prefers his 900-year-old country estate, why would he pop back over the sea" It's hardly a country estate | |||
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"Bob Geldolf is Irish and therefore not a 'Sir', his knighthood is only an honorary award, as such he only has to go back across the Irish Sea to be back in the EU as he is an Irish citizen. nope; he prefers his 900-year-old country estate, why would he pop back over the sea It's hardly a country estate" Compared to a council flat it must seem so.... | |||
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"Geldof is irrelevant, and never was relevant to the Remain campaign, regarding his wealth good luck to him as he has been lucky enough to build that wealth. The label put on him by the forum idiot who described him as Red....he's long described himself as being attached to no political affiliation, if anything he has more Green ideals than anything, he's staunchly anti national politics and prefers to see himself as a 'mouthy individual' who is more interested in third world problems.....his words not mine." well if that was really the case he wouldn't be a supporter of the EU would he? | |||
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"Geldof is irrelevant, and never was relevant to the Remain campaign, regarding his wealth good luck to him as he has been lucky enough to build that wealth. The label put on him by the forum idiot who described him as Red....he's long described himself as being attached to no political affiliation, if anything he has more Green ideals than anything, he's staunchly anti national politics and prefers to see himself as a 'mouthy individual' who is more interested in third world problems.....his words not mine." Oh he is red alright, that is why you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. A campaign socialist if ever there was. And if anyone around here is an idiot, it is you! GFY | |||
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"Geldof is irrelevant, and never was relevant to the Remain campaign, regarding his wealth good luck to him as he has been lucky enough to build that wealth. The label put on him by the forum idiot who described him as Red....he's long described himself as being attached to no political affiliation, if anything he has more Green ideals than anything, he's staunchly anti national politics and prefers to see himself as a 'mouthy individual' who is more interested in third world problems.....his words not mine. well if that was really the case he wouldn't be a supporter of the EU would he?" So a Humanist can't believe that the UK should remain in the EU?, care to elaborate? | |||
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"Geldof is irrelevant, and never was relevant to the Remain campaign, regarding his wealth good luck to him as he has been lucky enough to build that wealth. The label put on him by the forum idiot who described him as Red....he's long described himself as being attached to no political affiliation, if anything he has more Green ideals than anything, he's staunchly anti national politics and prefers to see himself as a 'mouthy individual' who is more interested in third world problems.....his words not mine. well if that was really the case he wouldn't be a supporter of the EU would he? So a Humanist can't believe that the UK should remain in the EU?, care to elaborate? " maybe you should google how the EU starves Africa into submission, as I've mentioned here before. Or explain how and why Germany is one of the worlds largest exporters of coffee without growing a bean? | |||
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"Since I voted to leave the E.U. and have since listened to many unconvincing points from remainers that myself and 17 million others got it wrong I am now forced to completely reconsider since Mr Geldof has apparently threatened to leave the U.K if we go ahead with plans to Brexit. Oh dear....oh dear !!" Bye bye Bob x | |||
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"Doesn't he have a luxury flat in Battersea and a mansion in Kent, amongst other things, and is he still a registered non-domicile taxpayer? You can't be as socialist, green, red, whatever you want to call it, when you've got 30 or 40 MILLION in the bank.." I think they call it champaign socialist.  | |||
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"Since I voted to leave the E.U. and have since listened to many unconvincing points from remainers that myself and 17 million others got it wrong I am now forced to completely reconsider since Mr Geldof has apparently threatened to leave the U.K if we go ahead with plans to Brexit. Oh dear....oh dear !!" I'm sure many people would be glad to see the back of Mr Geldof, and he won't be short of offers to help pack his bags. If only Eddie Izzard decided to go with him, it would be a nice bonus. | |||
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"Coffee is a listed commodity, The port of Hamburg acts a distribution hub for many commodities, including coffee, tea, cocoa, and even bananas....it doesn't make Hamburg any different than the Port of London in its heyday, when more bananas came through Tilbury docks than anywhere else in the world..... Quite what that has to do with Bob Geldof is lost on me...." it would be because you're not the sharpest. Germany imports raw coffee beans from Africa with low/no tariffs and processes it in Germany then sells it on at a high profit. The EU/Germany imposes high tariffs on imports of processed coffee from Africa meaning that the African farmers suffer and make less money, money which could be invested back into agriculture in that country, helping their economy and their food needs. And Bob Geldof warbles on about 'feed the world'? The man is a prick. And that is just one thing. I take it you didn't read how the EU starves Africa into submission did you? And if you did, can you defend it? | |||
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"Basically it's fuck you Mr. Black man and your continent. You either sell it to us raw and cheap or you sell nothing to us, we'll go elsewhere. We want to make the money on the processed coffee not you. This is why free trade for the whole world will benefit everybody and what the UK is now looking for, not stupid trade barriers that the dinosaur EU thinks are so wonderful"  | |||
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"Coffee is a listed commodity, The port of Hamburg acts a distribution hub for many commodities, including coffee, tea, cocoa, and even bananas....it doesn't make Hamburg any different than the Port of London in its heyday, when more bananas came through Tilbury docks than anywhere else in the world..... Quite what that has to do with Bob Geldof is lost on me.... it would be because you're not the sharpest. Germany imports raw coffee beans from Africa with low/no tariffs and processes it in Germany then sells it on at a high profit. The EU/Germany imposes high tariffs on imports of processed coffee from Africa meaning that the African farmers suffer and make less money, money which could be invested back into agriculture in that country, helping their economy and their food needs. And Bob Geldof warbles on about 'feed the world'? The man is a prick. And that is just one thing. I take it you didn't read how the EU starves Africa into submission did you? And if you did, can you defend it?" Are you under the impression that only Germany imports green coffee beans from Africa? Mass coffee processing and roasting has been widespread in Germany, Holland and Italy for decades. It's not financially viable for the vast majority of independent coffee growers in Ethiopia and Uganda to process their own beans....or they would do so. They have tried selling to Fairtrade coffee processing companies based in Africa but roasted coffee has a limited shelf life compared to raw beans and many Fairtrade African based exporters have gone bust simply because they don't ship roasted beans fast enough to other continents. So the greens end up in Europe, Germany tends to turn the majority of its roast into coffee syrups which they export mainly to America. Italy tends to re-export their coffee as roasted beans, Holland re-exports very little as they consume so much internally. If you want to blame anyone blame the Fairtrade companies based in Africa which are often not as squeaky clean as they make themselves out to be. | |||
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"Basically it's fuck you Mr. Black man and your continent. You either sell it to us raw and cheap or you sell nothing to us, we'll go elsewhere. We want to make the money on the processed coffee not you. This is why free trade for the whole world will benefit everybody and what the UK is now looking for, not stupid trade barriers that the dinosaur EU thinks are so wonderful" Daniel Hannan, Conservative MEP has written several articles on this very topic. By leaving the EU and having free trade with African countries we can help those African economies to grow and in time it will help to improve living standards in those countries and reduce poverty in those countries. Theresa May also touched on it the other day in Parliament, when she said Britain will lead the fight in global free trade and will look to bring down tariff barriers where we can once we leave the (protectionist) EU. | |||
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"Basically it's fuck you Mr. Black man and your continent. You either sell it to us raw and cheap or you sell nothing to us, we'll go elsewhere. We want to make the money on the processed coffee not you. This is why free trade for the whole world will benefit everybody and what the UK is now looking for, not stupid trade barriers that the dinosaur EU thinks are so wonderful Daniel Hannan, Conservative MEP has written several articles on this very topic. By leaving the EU and having free trade with African countries we can help those African economies to grow and in time it will help to improve living standards in those countries and reduce poverty in those countries. Theresa May also touched on it the other day in Parliament, when she said Britain will lead the fight in global free trade and will look to bring down tariff barriers where we can once we leave the (protectionist) EU. "
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"Until recently British retailers purchased significant amounts of agricultural products from Africa, that has dropped sharply in the last year or two because of the widespread use of pesticides in countries like Kenya, so all the drum rattling in the world from free trade advocates amount to little when the reality of dealing with many African nations is examined more carefully. Britain has some of the most stringent regulations when it comes to the use of pesticides on imported foods, The UK Food Standards Agency has many stricter regulations than even the EU when it comes to importing food stuffs. That's the reality of dealing with many African food exporters, they will use any means possible to enhance crop yealds as their export quotas to countries like China are so enormous. Things have changed beyond all recognition since the days of British rule in much of Africa, new export markets have opened to them and standards have plunged." nothing to do with the OP start your own coffee post to promote your business, if indeed you actually have one | |||
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"Until recently British retailers purchased significant amounts of agricultural products from Africa, that has dropped sharply in the last year or two because of the widespread use of pesticides in countries like Kenya, so all the drum rattling in the world from free trade advocates amount to little when the reality of dealing with many African nations is examined more carefully. Britain has some of the most stringent regulations when it comes to the use of pesticides on imported foods, The UK Food Standards Agency has many stricter regulations than even the EU when it comes to importing food stuffs. That's the reality of dealing with many African food exporters, they will use any means possible to enhance crop yealds as their export quotas to countries like China are so enormous. Things have changed beyond all recognition since the days of British rule in much of Africa, new export markets have opened to them and standards have plunged." what nonsense. They have had to find new customers like China and Brazil because of high EU tariffs. And why if those exports are so enormous, does Africa import 83% of its food? And what do you think of the EU dumping of food in Africa, made possible by the CAP and its subsidies to farmers of £30 billion, which drives African farmers and economies out of business? | |||
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"Until recently British retailers purchased significant amounts of agricultural products from Africa, that has dropped sharply in the last year or two because of the widespread use of pesticides in countries like Kenya, so all the drum rattling in the world from free trade advocates amount to little when the reality of dealing with many African nations is examined more carefully. Britain has some of the most stringent regulations when it comes to the use of pesticides on imported foods, The UK Food Standards Agency has many stricter regulations than even the EU when it comes to importing food stuffs. That's the reality of dealing with many African food exporters, they will use any means possible to enhance crop yealds as their export quotas to countries like China are so enormous. Things have changed beyond all recognition since the days of British rule in much of Africa, new export markets have opened to them and standards have plunged. nothing to do with the OP start your own coffee post to promote your business, if indeed you actually have one" You obnoxious fool, you have to make an argument out of everything, it's no wonder that few new faces post in the politics forum, you don't want debate....you want control. | |||
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"Until recently British retailers purchased significant amounts of agricultural products from Africa, that has dropped sharply in the last year or two because of the widespread use of pesticides in countries like Kenya, so all the drum rattling in the world from free trade advocates amount to little when the reality of dealing with many African nations is examined more carefully. Britain has some of the most stringent regulations when it comes to the use of pesticides on imported foods, The UK Food Standards Agency has many stricter regulations than even the EU when it comes to importing food stuffs. That's the reality of dealing with many African food exporters, they will use any means possible to enhance crop yealds as their export quotas to countries like China are so enormous. Things have changed beyond all recognition since the days of British rule in much of Africa, new export markets have opened to them and standards have plunged. what nonsense. They have had to find new customers like China and Brazil because of high EU tariffs. And why if those exports are so enormous, does Africa import 83% of its food? And what do you think of the EU dumping of food in Africa, made possible by the CAP and its subsidies to farmers of £30 billion, which drives African farmers and economies out of business?" Most of Africa's food imports are from other African countries, Kenya's biggest export market is Uganda, followed by China. Britain was until recently Kenya's second biggest market but our pesticide regulations have changed that. China has made massive inroads into Africa's horticultural and mining production over the last few years, they are investing Billions of dollars in African infrastructure as they attempt to secure exclusive rights to many of Africa's inter continental exports. if Britain gave a shit they should be pressing for African nations to heal the continent by concentrating on feeding other African nations first place instead of worrying about how many Mange Tout Waitrose can import from Kenya. | |||
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"Until recently British retailers purchased significant amounts of agricultural products from Africa, that has dropped sharply in the last year or two because of the widespread use of pesticides in countries like Kenya, so all the drum rattling in the world from free trade advocates amount to little when the reality of dealing with many African nations is examined more carefully. Britain has some of the most stringent regulations when it comes to the use of pesticides on imported foods, The UK Food Standards Agency has many stricter regulations than even the EU when it comes to importing food stuffs. That's the reality of dealing with many African food exporters, they will use any means possible to enhance crop yealds as their export quotas to countries like China are so enormous. Things have changed beyond all recognition since the days of British rule in much of Africa, new export markets have opened to them and standards have plunged. what nonsense. They have had to find new customers like China and Brazil because of high EU tariffs. And why if those exports are so enormous, does Africa import 83% of its food? And what do you think of the EU dumping of food in Africa, made possible by the CAP and its subsidies to farmers of £30 billion, which drives African farmers and economies out of business? Most of Africa's food imports are from other African countries, Kenya's biggest export market is Uganda, followed by China. Britain was until recently Kenya's second biggest market but our pesticide regulations have changed that. China has made massive inroads into Africa's horticultural and mining production over the last few years, they are investing Billions of dollars in African infrastructure as they attempt to secure exclusive rights to many of Africa's inter continental exports. if Britain gave a shit they should be pressing for African nations to heal the continent by concentrating on feeding other African nations first place instead of worrying about how many Mange Tout Waitrose can import from Kenya." try to defend the EU all you like or twist things, so maybe you should take it up with Oxfam who describe the EU's actions and policies with regard to agriculture and Africa as 'criminal'. | |||
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