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"Anyone watch and what did they think?" Yes I did I think there were good points made by everyone I did,nt agree with them all but they were still good and valid points. | |||
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"I didn't catch it this week but I did catch this week.... Is it worth catch up?" Perhaps, a lot of shouting about democracy and UKIP and the future of UKIP - personally I mainly watched it for Yannis varoufakis's input, seeing as how he doesn't like the EU in it's current form, but thought we should have remained to fight the corner with other parties and nations which want EU reform. Basically it was nice to see an outsider's point of view who could empathise with the majority on both sides of the debate. | |||
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"Yannis was refreshing to be honest, I get sick of British politicians constantly towing the official party line....." Precisely, if you listen to any political interview or speech which is longer than 5 minutes you get the same slogans being repeated. UKIP insisting that they are not dying and that they will continue to press for a quick hard brexit. Labour saying we have to respect the result but lets have a debate over what brexit means. The conservatives are low key squabbling amongst one another, many sounding like labour party members on the remain side. Yannis is nice, he gets the logic and emotions on both sides of the debate and understanding both of those is key. | |||
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"I didn't catch it this week but I did catch this week.... Is it worth catch up? Perhaps, a lot of shouting about democracy and UKIP and the future of UKIP - personally I mainly watched it for Yannis varoufakis's input, seeing as how he doesn't like the EU in it's current form, but thought we should have remained to fight the corner with other parties and nations which want EU reform. Basically it was nice to see an outsider's point of view who could empathise with the majority on both sides of the debate." . I like yannis myself, it's a pity he was thrown out by Greek party although the EU kinda forced they're hands with him.. He's not got all the answers but he was honest and understood the Greek debt crises which in reality is the same problem facing most other EU countries... His solution was a debt jubilee of sorts and he's not alone with that idea, Steve keen is also hypothecating it for solutions. . The trouble with mentioning debt problems is most people get very skewed by their political slant, Tories will use it for ideological austerity and labour will use it to keep up their ideological spending!. . . I think alone on the forum as the only person who opposed the EU as it and opposed brexit....I wanted a sovereign EU country, one national bank, one currency, one monetary policy,one parliament, one border...ie the untied states of Europe but no politican is brave enough and that's where the EU will fall apart as a mish mash union. | |||
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"I didn't catch it this week but I did catch this week.... Is it worth catch up? Perhaps, a lot of shouting about democracy and UKIP and the future of UKIP - personally I mainly watched it for Yannis varoufakis's input, seeing as how he doesn't like the EU in it's current form, but thought we should have remained to fight the corner with other parties and nations which want EU reform. Basically it was nice to see an outsider's point of view who could empathise with the majority on both sides of the debate.. I like yannis myself, it's a pity he was thrown out by Greek party although the EU kinda forced they're hands with him.. He's not got all the answers but he was honest and understood the Greek debt crises which in reality is the same problem facing most other EU countries... His solution was a debt jubilee of sorts and he's not alone with that idea, Steve keen is also hypothecating it for solutions. . The trouble with mentioning debt problems is most people get very skewed by their political slant, Tories will use it for ideological austerity and labour will use it to keep up their ideological spending!. . . I think alone on the forum as the only person who opposed the EU as it and opposed brexit....I wanted a sovereign EU country, one national bank, one currency, one monetary policy,one parliament, one border...ie the untied states of Europe but no politican is brave enough and that's where the EU will fall apart as a mish mash union. " Tbh in the current economic climate that feels like more rational than anything else. The whole federal states of europe gag wouldn't work, the differences between what each country needs is too great for the union to wrk smoothly like that. On the flip side a Europe dominated by nation states always seems to have been a Europe on the brink of conflict, and arms races, where the majority of the populace saw very slow improvements to living standards. Perhaps it is time for people across the board to bite the bullet and put forward an unpopular opinion in a rational light? Back onto Yannis, nobody has all the answers, and all the right answers for one group are likely to be the wrong answers for another. But yes, I miss reading up and watching his spars in the EUropean parliament. Often put people back in their place. I think one of his great virtues is that he is willing to listen to people carefully, even if he opposes their ideology. | |||
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"Yannis was refreshing to be honest, I get sick of British politicians constantly towing the official party line..... Precisely, if you listen to any political interview or speech which is longer than 5 minutes you get the same slogans being repeated. UKIP insisting that they are not dying and that they will continue to press for a quick hard brexit. Labour saying we have to respect the result but lets have a debate over what brexit means. The conservatives are low key squabbling amongst one another, many sounding like labour party members on the remain side. Yannis is nice, he gets the logic and emotions on both sides of the debate and understanding both of those is key." Ken Clarke was behaving like a spoilt little brat on Question Time who couldn't get his own way. I half expected him to throw himself on the floor at one point and start wailing "Wahhhh, wahhhhh, wahhhhh!!!!"  | |||
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