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"Why? " Apparently due to the cutting of eu regulations interfering with production.. | |||
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"One of most comical threads I've seen on the Politics forum...." care to elaborate? | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here." That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.  | |||
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"What a nonsense.....You are grasping at straws" You mean strawberries... | |||
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"Why? Apparently due to the cutting of eu regulations interfering with production.. " Why would the EU go up? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall" How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner. "Slave labour is the answer? Nice. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall" On food we import? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall On food we import? " How much of the suppliers of supermarkets British? Kraft, Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Nestle, Proctor and Gamble, General Mills, Kellogg's, Mars, Unilever, and Johnson & Johnson pretty much own everything. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? " What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall On food we import? " yep | |||
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"We can also import food stuffs from africa, india, US and MANY other non EU countries when currently they are penalised with tariffs because we are IN the EU ..... Just a thought...... I like coconut, papaya, mangoes, pineapples ...... "Why can't we import from there now? Is the EU blocking us? Would it be less fresh? | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner. "Jesus Christ! | |||
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"We can also import food stuffs from africa, india, US and MANY other non EU countries when currently they are penalised with tariffs because we are IN the EU ..... Just a thought...... I like coconut, papaya, mangoes, pineapples ......
Why can't we import from there now? Is the EU blocking us? Would it be less fresh?"we can but thats the point, it comes at extra cost | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall On food we import? yep" Cool. With the cheap pound I'll eat better. Food was always cheaper in the uk. It's really expensive here. I pay double for PG tips because it's imported into Amsterdam. And Unilever are Dutch. Crooks. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how" Go into your local supermarket......we already import vast quantities of fruit and vegetables from outside of the EU...... | |||
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"We can also import food stuffs from africa, india, US and MANY other non EU countries when currently they are penalised with tariffs because we are IN the EU ..... Just a thought...... I like coconut, papaya, mangoes, pineapples ......
Why can't we import from there now? Is the EU blocking us? Would it be less fresh?
we can but thats the point, it comes at extra cost"Now I get it. So it's cheaper to import in the EU at the moment. Let's see. I hope for the best. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how Go into your local supermarket......we already import vast quantities of fruit and vegetables from outside of the EU......" Then either we pay less because of less tariffs. Or the supermarket will pocket the profits? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how" So you want to see an increase in food imports? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how Go into your local supermarket......we already import vast quantities of fruit and vegetables from outside of the EU......" of course we do but with the EU enforced duty on it for goodness sake! | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports?" Unless you can grow pineapples in our climate sure. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports?" What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. " Fair comment  | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down " I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports?" I thought the whole point of the thread was about prices? If it makes food cheaper though why not because free trade will mean we export more too | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.
Slave labour is the answer?
Nice."I expect the government/farmers will pay them a wage Joe, as is currently the case in Prisons for other types of work. I thought this would be a popular idea amongst those on the left with Rehabilitation of Prisoners another benefit, but maybe you don't want to see Prisoners rehabilitated? | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.
Slave labour is the answer?
Nice.
I expect the government/farmers will pay them a wage Joe, as is currently the case in Prisons for other types of work. I thought this would be a popular idea amongst those on the left with Rehabilitation of Prisoners another benefit, but maybe you don't want to see Prisoners rehabilitated? "You think strapping someone to a rig for 6hrs a day will aid their rehabilitation more than teaching them to read or write? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports? I thought the whole point of the thread was about prices? If it makes food cheaper though why not because free trade will mean we export more too" Yeah those Pye TV's get exported all over the world don't they | |||
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"Before we joined the the common market/EU Britain charged import duty on ALL imports, including food stuffs.... The EU import duty and license is no different, in fact EU import duties are less than the old duties we had before we joined.... Go figure" I figure at least then we had a choice and could set our own rates | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports? I thought the whole point of the thread was about prices? If it makes food cheaper though why not because free trade will mean we export more too Yeah those Pye TV's get exported all over the world don't they" not sure what TV's have to do with food, so you want to see less food imported and higher prices? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports? I thought the whole point of the thread was about prices? If it makes food cheaper though why not because free trade will mean we export more too Yeah those Pye TV's get exported all over the world don't they" Maybe not but JCB diggers and earth movers do. Not sure what that has to do with the thread though? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports? I thought the whole point of the thread was about prices? If it makes food cheaper though why not because free trade will mean we export more too Yeah those Pye TV's get exported all over the world don't they Maybe not but JCB diggers and earth movers do. Not sure what that has to do with the thread though? " I think you're confusing sales with exports | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how So you want to see an increase in food imports? What does that have to do with it? I just said the price will go down I didn't ask about prices I asked if you want to see an increase in food imports? I thought the whole point of the thread was about prices? If it makes food cheaper though why not because free trade will mean we export more too Yeah those Pye TV's get exported all over the world don't they not sure what TV's have to do with food, so you want to see less food imported and higher prices?" One minute it's Britain will thrive on the back of an export driven economy and the next it's let's increase the trade deficit | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.
Slave labour is the answer?
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I expect the government/farmers will pay them a wage Joe, as is currently the case in Prisons for other types of work. I thought this would be a popular idea amongst those on the left with Rehabilitation of Prisoners another benefit, but maybe you don't want to see Prisoners rehabilitated?
You think strapping someone to a rig for 6hrs a day will aid their rehabilitation more than teaching them to read or write?"Don't see why they can't do both while they serve their time. Besides it beats sitting in their cells all day playing on playstation games and dealing drugs from their mobile phones. | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.
Slave labour is the answer?
Nice.
I expect the government/farmers will pay them a wage Joe, as is currently the case in Prisons for other types of work. I thought this would be a popular idea amongst those on the left with Rehabilitation of Prisoners another benefit, but maybe you don't want to see Prisoners rehabilitated?
You think strapping someone to a rig for 6hrs a day will aid their rehabilitation more than teaching them to read or write?
Don't see why they can't do both while they serve their time. Besides it beats sitting in their cells all day playing on playstation games and dealing drugs from their mobile phones. "You make it sound such a holiday camp™ I'm surprised more people aren't queuing up to get in | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? What does the living wage have to do with it? How? The CAP hits you twice in the pocket, taxpayers fork out billions to subsidise farmers (and actually a small percentage of farmers or the biggest/most wealthy) then we pay again when CAP artificially inflates prices. With free trade we could import food from anywhere in the world. CAP shields farmers from healthy competition, hindering the evolution of more modern more efficient agriculture. Thats how" We could produce more food that is for certain, BUT and it is a big but, do you want all the hedges ripped out, things like GM crops that are currently banned in the Eu plus many chemicals that we arent allowed to use, much lower animal welfare standards etc etc. Food take less of the average families wage than ever, | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? " food products abroad need transporting which driver up cost, plus adding to profit centres (each company the product passes through wants a %). Food produced in this countrysioule pass through less hands. Southern eu countries arm't the only warm countries either | |||
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"Before we joined the the common market/EU Britain charged import duty on ALL imports, including food stuffs.... The EU import duty and license is no different, in fact EU import duties are less than the old duties we had before we joined.... Go figure I figure at least then we had a choice and could set our own rates" Before we joined the common market we DID set our own import duties, and they were higher then as a percentage than they are 40 years later in the EU.....and if you think the government, whatever political party they are, will scrap import duties when we leave the EU then you are sadly mistaken, as they would possibly be the only Western nation without import duties and import license duties.....ain't gonna happen | |||
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"It is great news that Brexit will mean cheaper food prices or no further increases The Institute of Economic Affairs found it unlikely that the benefits of the currently regulatory burden outweigh the costs. The organisation concluded that Brexit offers unrivalled opportunities to halt potential food price rises , as the UK would now avoid new farming regulations coming down the track that could add £ 7.5 billion to food bills. In addition to having a booming stock market and more competitive exports our food prices will now also be more competitive . " Only the food stuffs that we produce in the UK.....and the palate of modern British families goes way beyond that in 2016 | |||
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"It is great news that Brexit will mean cheaper food prices or no further increases The Institute of Economic Affairs found it unlikely that the benefits of the currently regulatory burden outweigh the costs. The organisation concluded that Brexit offers unrivalled opportunities to halt potential food price rises , as the UK would now avoid new farming regulations coming down the track that could add £ 7.5 billion to food bills. In addition to having a booming stock market and more competitive exports our food prices will now also be more competitive . " Those pesky farming regulations, the good old days of feeding cattle carcasses to pigs can't come soon enough | |||
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"It is great news that Brexit will mean cheaper food prices or no further increases The Institute of Economic Affairs found it unlikely that the benefits of the currently regulatory burden outweigh the costs. The organisation concluded that Brexit offers unrivalled opportunities to halt potential food price rises , as the UK would now avoid new farming regulations coming down the track that could add £ 7.5 billion to food bills. In addition to having a booming stock market and more competitive exports our food prices will now also be more competitive . Those pesky farming regulations, the good old days of feeding cattle carcasses to pigs can't come soon enough" . It was EU regulations that allowed us to feed sheep carcasses to cattle... To be fair the science of transmitting scrape to bovine(bse) was low and then from bovine(bse) to humans (cjd) was low as well, the fact was that variable unknowns lead to regulatory clampdowns for it!. Luckily we just get mange horse meat from Albania imported to Ireland where it's exported to France to be cut and shredded before being exported to the UK where a company makes findus curry and puts a union jack tractor on it to satisfy the lily livered kebab eating 3 litres of group... | |||
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"Maybe it may be wise to see what British farmers have to say about post Brexit food production costs, as they are operating at grass roots level (no pun intended). They are not as confident on the matter, and I tend to believe what our food producers are saying." Its a mixed bag as to whether uk farmers are happy to be out of the EU many are concerned about the loss of the SFP which keeps many from going bust at the current low prices,others feel it will allow us to have more freedom,the fall in the pound has already made a difference to the price of sheep and corn,milk prices have made a slight recovery from a disastrous low of the last couple of years, if tariffs are imposed then UK producers will benefit as we import more than we export, there is huge potential to increase dairy production to replace imports, we have one of the best climates to grow grass | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. " What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? " Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner.
Jesus Christ!"No Jesus Christ is dead so he won't be very productive at pucking fruit  | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. " Do you really believe, no I can't believe you really do, that all types of fish you see on our fish counters are only caught in UK waters? | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? " Funny you should mention that. It was only last week that I was wondering why I'd not seen a Fleetwood trawler in the Med recently. How many British trawlers do you think are working other EU grounds? | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. " you crack me up you really do. You know that countries like Spain, France, Belgium, Denmark and Norway have historic fishing rights to UK waters that predate the EU (and predecessor organisations) right? Once the UK leaves the EU, there won't be quotas, or limits, on the amount of fish that they can take, so once they have fished their quotas in their EU waters (which we will no longer be able to access) they will then be allowed to sail over to UK waters and fish them til they're empty and the stocks are decimated. So the UK leaving the EU is going to be great for fishermen, EU fishermen that is. | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Funny you should mention that. It was only last week that I was wondering why I'd not seen a Fleetwood trawler in the Med recently. How many British trawlers do you think are working other EU grounds?" Because there isnt any ocean going trawlers anymore there all in water trawlers...you know the ones that go out for the day then back to port...reason why this is....all the greedy trawlers owners for one sold off there (shall we say passports) to fish these waters to those pesky frenchies and spaniards...then took up the EU subsidies to scrap there boats....the winners were ?  | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. you crack me up you really do. You know that countries like Spain, France, Belgium, Denmark and Norway have historic fishing rights to UK waters that predate the EU (and predecessor organisations) right? Once the UK leaves the EU, there won't be quotas, or limits, on the amount of fish that they can take, so once they have fished their quotas in their EU waters (which we will no longer be able to access) they will then be allowed to sail over to UK waters and fish them til they're empty and the stocks are decimated. So the UK leaving the EU is going to be great for fishermen, EU fishermen that is."Please enlighten me on these pre CFP historical rights. I've googled it and can't find any. | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Funny you should mention that. It was only last week that I was wondering why I'd not seen a Fleetwood trawler in the Med recently. How many British trawlers do you think are working other EU grounds?" UK fisherman fishing Irish, French, Dutch and German waters is valued at £100m a year. Are you expecting tax payers to give them £100m now they wont be able to do that anymore? UK waters equal 13% of EU sea area, yet the UK is allocated 30% of the fishing quota, that sounds like a pretty good deal for the UK to me. | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. you crack me up you really do. You know that countries like Spain, France, Belgium, Denmark and Norway have historic fishing rights to UK waters that predate the EU (and predecessor organisations) right? Once the UK leaves the EU, there won't be quotas, or limits, on the amount of fish that they can take, so once they have fished their quotas in their EU waters (which we will no longer be able to access) they will then be allowed to sail over to UK waters and fish them til they're empty and the stocks are decimated. So the UK leaving the EU is going to be great for fishermen, EU fishermen that is."
Biggest load of nonsense I think I have ever heard on this forum, thanks for the laugh.
You do realise that Norway who is not in the EU only allows Norwegian fishing boats in its territorial waters and EU fishing boats are excluded from fishing there. Norway impounds any foreign vessels it finds there illegally and charges a very sizeable fee for them to be released. There is no reason why Britain can't do exactly the same as Norway when it comes to fishing once we leave the EU. | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. Do you really believe, no I can't believe you really do, that all types of fish you see on our fish counters are only caught in UK waters?" Where exactly did I suggest that on this thread? Please feel free to quote me on it if you can find anywhere I've said that. Of course we will need to import species of seafood that don't live in our territorial waters, (it goes without saying really) but the seafood that does grow in our territorial waters there is no reason why the price can't come down on it once we are out of the EU and our own fishermen are catching it instead of EU trawlers. | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. " Except that it's not really possible to fish in the " original" UK waters; as the UK fishing industry basically fished them out of stock; hence why it's useful to have access to wider fixing waters; the U.K.' " traditional" fishing waters are not expected to recover for at least 30 years, under current conditions; if UK removed the restrictions, then thry would be completely barren in about 5-10 years, and unrecoverable; at least under the EU , and it's controls; the UK has some fishing industry. ( The EU fishing policy has some major issues, and the method of control needs to be changed; but it's far better than nothing; strangely the UK was one of the countries that opposed change) | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. you crack me up you really do. You know that countries like Spain, France, Belgium, Denmark and Norway have historic fishing rights to UK waters that predate the EU (and predecessor organisations) right? Once the UK leaves the EU, there won't be quotas, or limits, on the amount of fish that they can take, so once they have fished their quotas in their EU waters (which we will no longer be able to access) they will then be allowed to sail over to UK waters and fish them til they're empty and the stocks are decimated. So the UK leaving the EU is going to be great for fishermen, EU fishermen that is.
Please enlighten me on these pre CFP historical rights.
I've googled it and can't find any.""Leaving the EU doesn’t guarantee a better future for our fishing industry because some Member States may still be allowed to fish in UK waters due to ‘historic’ fishing rights, says the UK’s leading marine charity, the Marine Conservation Society (MCS). MCS says if the current agreement the UK has with the EU had to be renegotiated it could put in jeopardy our ability to fish elsewhere. Other countries may have no desire, and may not be legally obliged, to allow us to fish in their waters – particularly if they were excluded from our own. The idea that leaving the EU would mean we could keep all our fish to ourselves is misleading, says the charity." | |||
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU." I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Sorry to state the bleedin obvious again but they won't need to fish in EU waters will they if we reclaim our territorial waters back from the EU then UK boats can fish here and EU boats will be excluded. you crack me up you really do. You know that countries like Spain, France, Belgium, Denmark and Norway have historic fishing rights to UK waters that predate the EU (and predecessor organisations) right? Once the UK leaves the EU, there won't be quotas, or limits, on the amount of fish that they can take, so once they have fished their quotas in their EU waters (which we will no longer be able to access) they will then be allowed to sail over to UK waters and fish them til they're empty and the stocks are decimated. So the UK leaving the EU is going to be great for fishermen, EU fishermen that is.
Biggest load of nonsense I think I have ever heard on this forum, thanks for the laugh.
You do realise that Norway who is not in the EU only allows Norwegian fishing boats in its territorial waters and EU fishing boats are excluded from fishing there. Norway impounds any foreign vessels it finds there illegally and charges a very sizeable fee for them to be released. There is no reason why Britain can't do exactly the same as Norway when it comes to fishing once we leave the EU. "I didn't say anything about us fishing their waters did I? | |||
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU. I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. " That's not actually what he did; but please feel free to continue with " versions " of the truth that fit your narrative. | |||
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU. I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. " Thats crap...i come from a major or what was major fishing town....and why quote part ? | |||
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU. I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. Thats crap...i come from a major or what was major fishing town....and why quote part ?" Just because you come from a fishing town it doesn't change what Ted Heath did in the 1970's. | |||
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU. I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. Thats crap...i come from a major or what was major fishing town....and why quote part ? Just because you come from a fishing town it doesn't change what Ted Heath did in the 1970's. "Read your history please...i'll quote some of it to you then post the link The Cod Wars (Icelandic: Þorskastríðin, "the cod strife", or Landhelgisstríðin, "the war for the territorial waters"[1]) were a series of confrontations between the United Kingdom and Iceland regarding fishing rights in the North Atlantic. Each of the disputes ended with Iceland's victory.[2][3][4] The final Cod War concluded with a highly favourable agreement for Iceland, as the United Kingdom conceded to a 200-nautical-mile (370-kilometre) Icelandic exclusive fishery zone following threats that Iceland would withdraw from NATO, which would have forfeited NATO's access to most of the GIUK gap, a critical anti-submarine warfare chokepoint during the Cold War. As a result, British fishing communities lost access to rich areas and were devastated, with thousands of jobs lost.[3][5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars Now tell me and others on here that it was the EU's fault | |||
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU. I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. Thats crap...i come from a major or what was major fishing town....and why quote part ? Just because you come from a fishing town it doesn't change what Ted Heath did in the 1970's.
Read your history please...i'll quote some of it to you then post the link
The Cod Wars (Icelandic: Þorskastríðin, "the cod strife", or Landhelgisstríðin, "the war for the territorial waters"[1]) were a series of confrontations between the United Kingdom and Iceland regarding fishing rights in the North Atlantic. Each of the disputes ended with Iceland's victory.[2][3][4] The final Cod War concluded with a highly favourable agreement for Iceland, as the United Kingdom conceded to a 200-nautical-mile (370-kilometre) Icelandic exclusive fishery zone following threats that Iceland would withdraw from NATO, which would have forfeited NATO's access to most of the GIUK gap, a critical anti-submarine warfare chokepoint during the Cold War. As a result, British fishing communities lost access to rich areas and were devastated, with thousands of jobs lost.[3][5]
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"Tell me where on the thread I have denied the cod wars happened? The cod wars happened and Ted Heath also gave away our fishing rights as a bargaining chip to join the common market. It is possible for both things to have happened you know.
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"Wow clutching at straws is an understatement....the decline of the fishing industry had NOTHING to do with the EU. I think you'll find it did, when Ted Heath gave our fishing rights away as a bargaining chip as a condition that we could join the common market back in the 1970's. Thats crap...i come from a major or what was major fishing town....and why quote part ? Just because you come from a fishing town it doesn't change what Ted Heath did in the 1970's.
Read your history please...i'll quote some of it to you then post the link
The Cod Wars (Icelandic: Þorskastríðin, "the cod strife", or Landhelgisstríðin, "the war for the territorial waters"[1]) were a series of confrontations between the United Kingdom and Iceland regarding fishing rights in the North Atlantic. Each of the disputes ended with Iceland's victory.[2][3][4] The final Cod War concluded with a highly favourable agreement for Iceland, as the United Kingdom conceded to a 200-nautical-mile (370-kilometre) Icelandic exclusive fishery zone following threats that Iceland would withdraw from NATO, which would have forfeited NATO's access to most of the GIUK gap, a critical anti-submarine warfare chokepoint during the Cold War. As a result, British fishing communities lost access to rich areas and were devastated, with thousands of jobs lost.[3][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars
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Tell me where on the thread I have denied the cod wars happened? The cod wars happened and Ted Heath also gave away our fishing rights as a bargaining chip to join the common market. It is possible for both things to have happened you know.
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"Does anyone think Fargeism will be classed as an illness soon "No but the brain wasting disease known as Mel53ism seems to be clearly evident on this thread. | |||
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No but the brain wasting disease known as Mel53ism seems to be clearly evident on this thread. "I was right Fargeism is an illness...thats exactly how he would react | |||
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"Price of some seafood could certainly come down when we take back control of our fishing grounds in our territorial waters from the EU and once again get the UK fishing industry booming. What about the UK fishermen who fish in EU waters? Funny you should mention that. It was only last week that I was wondering why I'd not seen a Fleetwood trawler in the Med recently. How many British trawlers do you think are working other EU grounds? UK fisherman fishing Irish, French, Dutch and German waters is valued at £100m a year. Are you expecting tax payers to give them £100m now they wont be able to do that anymore? UK waters equal 13% of EU sea area, yet the UK is allocated 30% of the fishing quota, that sounds like a pretty good deal for the UK to me. " You probably got that one from the Guardian. Firstly the 30% of the quota is disputed and in reality is by species. For example: Britain could get 5% of the Cod quota (valuable) and 50% of the Mackerel quota (not very valuable) but it would still look like Britain gets a good deal on the total percentage when it isn't really. It also includes the catch of the many Spanish boats that can fly a British flag of convenience and take a share of what would be the British quota. This catch is mostly sent by road directly to Spain so it also distorts the figure for "British fish exports" Secondly the 13% of the waters is a bit disingenuous as the total includes the Mediterranean (no fish) and mid Atlantic waters as far out as (and beyond) the Azores. Very few if any northern European boats will travel that far. Of the North Atlantic, southern approaches, and North Sea waters (which is the bit everyone wants to fish) Britain's percentage is much higher. | |||
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"Posts comment about how British fishing decline was due to industrial fishing in our own North Sea and North Atlantic waters pre-EEC and EU, and how our own fish stocks are unlikely to recover for at least 15 years with minimal fishing, 30 years with current fishing levels - gets ignored. It's simple, British trawling fisheries cannot become the big industry they once were, until stocks recover the best bet for those coastal towns is to turn to aquaculture." It's true, the waters have been over fished. Brexit won't make it any better. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? And people say foreigners are taking our jobs? Sounds like they're given away by the brits who think themselves above manual labour "If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, we have a whole swaith of the population that think that many manual jobs are below them, far too many people have been spoilt over the last couple of decades in this country.....workshy Brits who blame anyone but themselves | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? And people say foreigners are taking our jobs? Sounds like they're given away by the brits who think themselves above manual labour
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, we have a whole swaith of the population that think that many manual jobs are below them, far too many people have been spoilt over the last couple of decades in this country.....workshy Brits who blame anyone but themselves"That is very true, they have been told that they all need to aspire to uni education and working with your hands is deemed not worthy | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? And people say foreigners are taking our jobs? Sounds like they're given away by the brits who think themselves above manual labour
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, we have a whole swaith of the population that think that many manual jobs are below them, far too many people have been spoilt over the last couple of decades in this country.....workshy Brits who blame anyone but themselves
That is very true, they have been told that they all need to aspire to uni education and working with your hands is deemed not worthy "Although therr are people with degrees without jobs, the bigger problem is intergenerational unemployment where whole families have never worked, these are the people who are being left behind by society. | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally...." whats the average rent in Torquay? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? And people say foreigners are taking our jobs? Sounds like they're given away by the brits who think themselves above manual labour
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, we have a whole swaith of the population that think that many manual jobs are below them, far too many people have been spoilt over the last couple of decades in this country.....workshy Brits who blame anyone but themselves
That is very true, they have been told that they all need to aspire to uni education and working with your hands is deemed not worthy
Although therr are people with degrees without jobs, the bigger problem is intergenerational unemployment where whole families have never worked, these are the people who are being left behind by society. "So should society pay to support people that wont work ? They arent being left behind by the rest they are too lazy to work and expect the rest of us to keep them | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay?" Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment " well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally...." Do you not think it would be a benefit to the 29 applicants and to the country as a whole if you had given one of them a job before they arrived in the country permanently? If they are out of work how do they survive? Do you know? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... Do you not think it would be a benefit to the 29 applicants and to the country as a whole if you had given one of them a job before they arrived in the country permanently? If they are out of work how do they survive? Do you know?"  why are you giving them a hard time? How do you know that the applicants aren't currently working? Many people apply for jobs whilst they are already in work. | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room" You are making some huge assumptions there. Tonight we went to dinner with friends who are an English man and his Polish wife, they are home owners. Why do you think all foreign workers are exploited and living six to a room? What about 10% of NHS Drs who come from the EU, you think they live 6 to a room? | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? And people say foreigners are taking our jobs? Sounds like they're given away by the brits who think themselves above manual labour
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, we have a whole swaith of the population that think that many manual jobs are below them, far too many people have been spoilt over the last couple of decades in this country.....workshy Brits who blame anyone but themselves
That is very true, they have been told that they all need to aspire to uni education and working with your hands is deemed not worthy
Although therr are people with degrees without jobs, the bigger problem is intergenerational unemployment where whole families have never worked, these are the people who are being left behind by society.
So should society pay to support people that wont work ? They arent being left behind by the rest they are too lazy to work and expect the rest of us to keep them"Paying multiple generations of people to sit and watch Jeremy Kyle all day long is not good for them, their communities, or society in general. | |||
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"Once we are out of the Common Agricultural Policy food prices will fall How exactly?, are we to see the Living Wage drop at the same time?, and why all of a sudden will unemployed British people lower themselves to pick fruit and vegetables out of the fields? And people say foreigners are taking our jobs? Sounds like they're given away by the brits who think themselves above manual labour
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, we have a whole swaith of the population that think that many manual jobs are below them, far too many people have been spoilt over the last couple of decades in this country.....workshy Brits who blame anyone but themselves
That is very true, they have been told that they all need to aspire to uni education and working with your hands is deemed not worthy
Although therr are people with degrees without jobs, the bigger problem is intergenerational unemployment where whole families have never worked, these are the people who are being left behind by society.
So should society pay to support people that wont work ? They arent being left behind by the rest they are too lazy to work and expect the rest of us to keep them
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room You are making some huge assumptions there. Tonight we went to dinner with friends who are an English man and his Polish wife, they are home owners. Why do you think all foreign workers are exploited and living six to a room? What about 10% of NHS Drs who come from the EU, you think they live 6 to a room? " I do not. Whx do you think their were 29 eastern european candidates compared to 2 from the UK? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room You are making some huge assumptions there. Tonight we went to dinner with friends who are an English man and his Polish wife, they are home owners. Why do you think all foreign workers are exploited and living six to a room? What about 10% of NHS Drs who come from the EU, you think they live 6 to a room? I do not. Whx do you think their were 29 eastern european candidates compared to 2 from the UK?" If you don't think that all foreign workers live six to a room, why did you type "But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room"? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room You are making some huge assumptions there. Tonight we went to dinner with friends who are an English man and his Polish wife, they are home owners. Why do you think all foreign workers are exploited and living six to a room? What about 10% of NHS Drs who come from the EU, you think they live 6 to a room? I do not. Whx do you think their were 29 eastern european candidates compared to 2 from the UK?" Honestly?......I can only put it down to many unemployed Brits being bone idle, spoilt..... | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room" Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter" His ideas on many things about the EU is so off kilter...he was fed the BS and believes it...there lies the problem | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter" No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter His ideas on many things about the EU is so off kilter...he was fed the BS and believes it...there lies the problem "I don't believe any BS son, I live in the real world, maybe you need to get around a bit more | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter His ideas on many things about the EU is so off kilter...he was fed the BS and believes it...there lies the problem
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are?" A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type?" Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type?" I had the same thoughts was the poster who said that she was over qualified. If she is a qualified teacher , why is she unable to work in Hungary or unable to obtain a teaching post here . If you have interviewed her I am assuming that her English is good as as such would not prevent her from obtaining a teaching role in the Uk. I am always slightly cautious of people who have a professional qualification but then choose to work in a role that pays less than their choosen field . | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? I had the same thoughts was the poster who said that she was over qualified. If she is a qualified teacher , why is she unable to work in Hungary or unable to obtain a teaching post here . If you have interviewed her I am assuming that her English is good as as such would not prevent her from obtaining a teaching role in the Uk. I am always slightly cautious of people who have a professional qualification but then choose to work in a role that pays less than their choosen field . " Yes she was interviewed, and no she can't work as a teacher in the UK, her 37.5 hours contracted work in our company at £7.95 an hour represents a greater wage than she would earn as a primary school teacher in Hungary. People travel all over to earn more, our daughter is currently working in Dubai for that exact reason. My own father worked in Germany back in the day as a bricklayer for more money than he could get in the UK, it's nothing new. | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live" And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? I had the same thoughts was the poster who said that she was over qualified. If she is a qualified teacher , why is she unable to work in Hungary or unable to obtain a teaching post here . If you have interviewed her I am assuming that her English is good as as such would not prevent her from obtaining a teaching role in the Uk. I am always slightly cautious of people who have a professional qualification but then choose to work in a role that pays less than their choosen field . Yes she was interviewed, and no she can't work as a teacher in the UK, her 37.5 hours contracted work in our company at £7.95 an hour represents a greater wage than she would earn as a primary school teacher in Hungary. People travel all over to earn more, our daughter is currently working in Dubai for that exact reason. My own father worked in Germany back in the day as a bricklayer for more money than he could get in the UK, it's nothing new. " your daughter works in Dubai? Jeez, how can she do that when they're not in the EU? Thats incredible, who'd have thought | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient." patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that" Yes because obviously all Hungarians are born with an inate knowledge of Office | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that Yes because obviously all Hungarians are born with an inate knowledge of Office "That right? I bet there are some who can even tie their own shoes as well. So will you answer the question on this thread? What will it take for you to admit you voted the wrong way? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that" You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... " I'm going for a mixture of wanting better pay, a better job and a better employer | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... I'm going for a mixture of wanting better pay, a better job and a better employer" You really are a baby aren't you?.... | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... I'm going for a mixture of wanting better pay, a better job and a better employer You really are a baby aren't you?...." They've never had a skilled job, so they don't know what it is, or why their would be any skill requirements for a job. | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... I'm going for a mixture of wanting better pay, a better job and a better employer You really are a baby aren't you?.... They've never had a skilled job, so they don't know what it is, or why their would be any skill requirements for a job. " What a stupid statement. As usual. So for 7.95 an hour skilled people should come flocking should they? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... I'm going for a mixture of wanting better pay, a better job and a better employer You really are a baby aren't you?...." baby? Thats a strange one. You really are a racist aren't you? I remember when they used to dismiss black people as bone idle, and now its British eh? | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... I'm going for a mixture of wanting better pay, a better job and a better employer You really are a baby aren't you?.... baby? Thats a strange one. You really are a racist aren't you? I remember when they used to dismiss black people as bone idle, and now its British eh?" A racist?, how the fuck do you work that one out? You know nothing about me, my background....nothing | |||
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"Last Thursday we advertised Two vacant positions in our small business, both now free as the girls both went to Uni.... As of today we have had 33 applications for these 37.5 hour positions 29 of which appear at this stage to have Eastern European surnames, although we will have to establish that should they reach interview stage. That doesn't surprise me though as it's the norm, and considering we are based in an area of the UK that is way below average for immigrant population, it's bloody criminal that we can't get interest from British born locals. We pay above the living wage incidentally.... whats the average rent in Torquay? Exactly what has that got to do with it?, we pay above the living wage, and that is significantly above the average Devon wage..... The rent for their housing has nothing to do with us as we don't rent our workers property, we just give them employment well done. But you will obviously get more applicants from the section of society being exploited by landlords and living six to a room Wow, you really are out of touch with reality, are you even aware that many Eastern Europeans, particularly Polish, are now home owners here? I've just finished interviewing one young Hungarian lady this morning, she spoke perfect English....lives in a rented flat in Torbay with her sister, is over qualified as she has a teaching degree, and can use Microsoft Office, which is a requirement for the position. Your idea of many immigrants is so off kilter No it's not. Why is she applying for a job she's over qualified for? And of course many are now home owners. How many who arrived this year are? A ridiculous thing to say....she's overqualified because she's a teacher qualified in Hungary and not here....Jesus Christ, do you even think before you type? Do you? Do they not need teachers in Hungary and are they somehow less able/qualified than the teachers here? She can use Microsoft Office, wow how patronising is that? If you all climbed down off your high horses for 5 minutes you might realise that I'm not having a go at migrants just putting forward a reason as to why there might be more of them applying for a low paid job, or one that they are over qualified for, and that is because of circumstance and how, for the time being they have chosen to live And why the comment about being patronising about being able to use Microsoft Office?, it's a requirement we place on office positions in our company because we want people that can fit straight in and hit the ground running from day One. We get applicants that can barely type a text on their i phones because they couldn't be arsed to learn at school, we can't afford to wait around while they learn, we are a small business that needs to be efficient. patronising that a Hungarian might not be able to use Office. And a teacher at that You really are like a dog with a bone, arguing for the sake of it....in just about every thread you post on. I'll explain it again.... The positions I advertised asked for a knowledge of Microsoft Office, I'm assuming the reason that I'm not getting many applications from British people is either they don't know Microsoft Office, or are bone idle, or almost £8.00 an hour and a full time position isn't good enough to attract them. I'm going for a mixture of lack of knowledge and bone idleness.... " Out of curiousity how many British people applied and did they have the necessary skills ? | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs" The lack of drive by some British nationals is shocking. Maybe the solution to the immigration debate is actually an exchange program. When we take a hard working, ambitious individual from overseas, then a uk national who has failed to meet basic standards of trying for work is deported overseas. Harsh but fair. Ps this is tongue in cheek before any outrage begins. (But the more I think about this idea......) | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs The lack of drive by some British nationals is shocking. Maybe the solution to the immigration debate is actually an exchange program. When we take a hard working, ambitious individual from overseas, then a uk national who has failed to meet basic standards of trying for work is deported overseas. Harsh but fair. Ps this is tongue in cheek before any outrage begins. (But the more I think about this idea......)" I don't think we will ever get to full employment, the Welfare State was designed as a safety net for those that fell on hard times and I'm a big supporter of it and long may we retain that safety net.....but nothing on this earth will jumpstart the bone idle, they are lost. | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs" Yes very true. But only because they are allowed to be. | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs Yes very true. But only because they are allowed to be." Yes, totally agree... | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs" I have no objection to people not working. However this should not be at the tax payers expense . Those who choose not to work should receive no financial help whatsoever . There does however need to be relevant support for those genuinely unable to work. | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs I have no objection to people not working. However this should not be at the tax payers expense . Those who choose not to work should receive no financial help whatsoever . There does however need to be relevant support for those genuinely unable to work. " Again I absolutely agree, government attacks on many genuine incapacity cases has been disgusting, for people genuinely unable to work due to a medical incapacity there needs to be more protection. | |||
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"We have friends who have run a soft fruit farm in Devon for three generations, for the last two or three summers ALL of their fruit pickers came from Spain and Portugal as our Living Wage was nearly double the minimum agricultural wage they were earning back home.... We import so much food from Southern Europe now because we are no longer able to produce it cheap enough here. That could be about to change though as the government is looking into a scheme which could see Prisoners working the fields picking fruit and vegetables. The government get to lower the immigration numbers, it helps with rehabilitation of Prisoners and the farmers still get their harvest picked, everyone's a winner. "Kinda wish this was true....! | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs The lack of drive by some British nationals is shocking. Maybe the solution to the immigration debate is actually an exchange program. When we take a hard working, ambitious individual from overseas, then a uk national who has failed to meet basic standards of trying for work is deported overseas. Harsh but fair. Ps this is tongue in cheek before any outrage begins. (But the more I think about this idea......) I don't think we will ever get to full employment, the Welfare State was designed as a safety net for those that fell on hard times and I'm a big supporter of it and long may we retain that safety net.....but nothing on this earth will jumpstart the bone idle, they are lost." But the problem is with high uncontrolled immigration comes more competition for jobs and an easier excuse for not getting one | |||
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"As of today' we have had 47 applicants.....9 of which appear to be British born going by their names. As an aside....last autumn we were approached by the Working Links company, on behalf of the DWP to advertise future positions with them. We got back to them in November as we needed a drivers mate, and they sent three young guys to us for interviews. One of them now works for us and is doing very well, the poor sod was long term unemployed after having to leave the army early due to an accident in training....great attitude, and great worker. The other Two lads who turned up for the interview were not in the slightest bit interested in hearing about the position, all they wanted was for me to sign their form from Working Links as proof that they had attended. And that's just one example that moves me to believe that we have a sizeable section of the unemployed who are indeed 'bone idle' and good for nothing...... It's a very sad state of affairs The lack of drive by some British nationals is shocking. Maybe the solution to the immigration debate is actually an exchange program. When we take a hard working, ambitious individual from overseas, then a uk national who has failed to meet basic standards of trying for work is deported overseas. Harsh but fair. Ps this is tongue in cheek before any outrage begins. (But the more I think about this idea......) I don't think we will ever get to full employment, the Welfare State was designed as a safety net for those that fell on hard times and I'm a big supporter of it and long may we retain that safety net.....but nothing on this earth will jumpstart the bone idle, they are lost. But the problem is with high uncontrolled immigration comes more competition for jobs and an easier excuse for not getting one" An excuse that you perpetuate on a regular basis. | |||
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"Before we joined the the common market/EU Britain charged import duty on ALL imports, including food stuffs.... The EU import duty and license is no different, in fact EU import duties are less than the old duties we had before we joined.... Go figure" The world has changed since those days; fewer countries are blocking imports with tariffs. The EU is one block of countries that keeps tariffs up. When we leave we will be free to trade tariff free or set our own tariffs if the country we trade with adds tariffs to our goods. That is one of the reasons why we need to be out of the single market and free to trade with the EU. A condition of the single market is we abide by EU tariffs for non EU imports when we are out of the single market we will still be able to trade with EU countries but we will be able to trade with the rest of the world on our own terms | |||
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