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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol" read the news, its all full of "IF's" and "Could" and threats all gets very boring | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol read the news, its all full of "IF's" and "Could" and threats all gets very boring" Still in denial i see lol  | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol" It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears?  | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears? "I actually remember when they built that plant...it was done with EU money...and it was a toss up basically between there and Sth Humberside at the time....but your right...they were feed bullshit by the brexiters and believed it....oh well sometimes YOU get what you wish for...im sure some of the smaller countries in the EU will welcome these companies with open arms lol  | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears?
I actually remember when they built that plant...it was done with EU money...and it was a toss up basically between there and Sth Humberside at the time....but your right...they were feed bullshit by the brexiters and believed it....oh well sometimes YOU get what you wish for...im sure some of the smaller countries in the EU will welcome these companies with open arms lol "We,ll see they hav,nt moved yet.  | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol" what, like you? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears? "you will find that they do, they just don't fall for bullshit | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears? "Nissan has not moved. Unlike the Ford Transit plant in Southampton - which was well before any EU vote was on the cards. | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard?" They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish. | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish." Audi, BMW and VW are saying 'no special deals for Britain' are they? you kill me | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you?" No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish. Audi, BMW and VW are saying 'no special deals for Britain' are they? you kill me"www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/29/german-business-leader-warning-brexit-trade-uk | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc "This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals' | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish. Audi, BMW and VW are saying 'no special deals for Britain' are they? you kill me
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/29/german-business-leader-warning-brexit-trade-uk"Which one does he work for? Audi BMW or VW? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'"What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs "Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we. It won't happen. Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs "like I said, they are just trying to be the first in to get deals or compensation, its nonsense. And the important word is 'if'. There will not be tariffs | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs."That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
like I said, they are just trying to be the first in to get deals or compensation, its nonsense. And the important word is 'if'. There will not be tariffs"Are you really that stupid to think the EU wont impose tariffs on the UK....please explain your thinking on that....or are we in the UK superior to other countries outside of the EU...could you imagine the furlor that will create among other countries lol | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
wrong"OK, prove me wrong then, lets have some evidence. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
like I said, they are just trying to be the first in to get deals or compensation, its nonsense. And the important word is 'if'. There will not be tariffs
Are you really that stupid to think the EU wont impose tariffs on the UK....please explain your thinking on that....or are we in the UK superior to other countries outside of the EU...could you imagine the furlor that will create among other countries lol "are you really that stupid to think they will? Do we export more to or import more from the EU. And if other countries moan they too will get tariff free trade. These tariffs are outdated and a thing of the past, the whole world will soon be a free trade area, get with it | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made."Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs. Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs? "The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now. What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?"We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs. EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222 | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222"Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit."There are always informal talks before formal talks, but the government hasn't even set out what it wants from article 50 yet, let alone a trade deal that will begin formal negotiations only after we have left. So as I said, there will be tariffs under WTO rules after we leave the EU, before we negotiate any other trade deal. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit.
There are always informal talks before formal talks, but the government hasn't even set out what it wants from article 50 yet, let alone a trade deal that will begin formal negotiations only after we have left.
So as I said, there will be tariffs under WTO rules after we leave the EU, before we negotiate any other trade deal. "And, as I have said, a trade deal will be struck. It is in everyone's interests. Why the constant pessimism? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc "Take it you havent been to mansfield recently best thing ever happened to it was coal mining going and though its sad the demise of steel in sheffield has resulted in projects such as sheffield business park which is booming I also notice you dont seem to be sad about the demise of the fishing industry in your own town maybe because its the eu at fault | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit.
There are always informal talks before formal talks, but the government hasn't even set out what it wants from article 50 yet, let alone a trade deal that will begin formal negotiations only after we have left.
So as I said, there will be tariffs under WTO rules after we leave the EU, before we negotiate any other trade deal.
And, as I have said, a trade deal will be struck. It is in everyone's interests.
Why the constant pessimism?"It's realism, I haven't said that a trade deal won't be struck, just that it will take years, and we will have tariffs in the meantime. Do you agree? Or do you think that the European Commission is mistaken? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit.
There are always informal talks before formal talks, but the government hasn't even set out what it wants from article 50 yet, let alone a trade deal that will begin formal negotiations only after we have left.
So as I said, there will be tariffs under WTO rules after we leave the EU, before we negotiate any other trade deal.
And, as I have said, a trade deal will be struck. It is in everyone's interests.
Why the constant pessimism?
It's realism, I haven't said that a trade deal won't be struck, just that it will take years, and we will have tariffs in the meantime.
Do you agree? Or do you think that the European Commission is mistaken? "I think the European Commission is not the arbiter to invoke. We are a big player. Have faith. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit.
There are always informal talks before formal talks, but the government hasn't even set out what it wants from article 50 yet, let alone a trade deal that will begin formal negotiations only after we have left.
So as I said, there will be tariffs under WTO rules after we leave the EU, before we negotiate any other trade deal.
And, as I have said, a trade deal will be struck. It is in everyone's interests.
Why the constant pessimism?
It's realism, I haven't said that a trade deal won't be struck, just that it will take years, and we will have tariffs in the meantime.
Do you agree? Or do you think that the European Commission is mistaken?
I think the European Commission is not the arbiter to invoke.
We are a big player. Have faith."I thought the Brexiters were always saying that the commision had too much power, and that's why we had to leave to restore the sovereignty of parliament? | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
Not if a trade agreement was made.
Yes, once we have a free trade agreement it will be different, but until then, WTO rules, especially if we want a WTO seat. The FTA with Canada took 7 years to negotiate and its expected to take 2 years to ratify. So if we take the same amount of time (realistically we'll take longer because we don't have more than 20 negotiators) that's 9 years of tariffs.
Just naming another country isn't proof that the UK wont have to pay tariffs as you have named a country with a free trade agreement with the EU. Can you name any country without a FTA that pays no tariffs?
The last I heard was that the government had employed 120+ negotiators. And I am sure it is happening now.
What makes you think that we cannot negotiate a free trade agreement?
We can negotiate a free trade agreement. But we can't start negotiating until after we have left, then it will take several years for it to be negotiated, ratified and implemented. In the meantime its WTO rules and tariffs.
EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222
Do you really think that informal talks are not underway? It is the biggest issue that the EU (and our country) has faced for a long time. Human nature dictates that a little talking may just have happened a teensy bit.
There are always informal talks before formal talks, but the government hasn't even set out what it wants from article 50 yet, let alone a trade deal that will begin formal negotiations only after we have left.
So as I said, there will be tariffs under WTO rules after we leave the EU, before we negotiate any other trade deal.
And, as I have said, a trade deal will be struck. It is in everyone's interests.
Why the constant pessimism?
It's realism, I haven't said that a trade deal won't be struck, just that it will take years, and we will have tariffs in the meantime.
Do you agree? Or do you think that the European Commission is mistaken?
I think the European Commission is not the arbiter to invoke.
We are a big player. Have faith.
I thought the Brexiters were always saying that the commision had too much power, and that's why we had to leave to restore the sovereignty of parliament? "Yes. Exactly. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
Take it you havent been to mansfield recently best thing ever happened to it was coal mining going and though its sad the demise of steel in sheffield has resulted in projects such as sheffield business park which is booming
I also notice you dont seem to be sad about the demise of the fishing industry in your own town maybe because its the eu at fault"Fishing industry wasnt the EU fault lol...you need to check up on your history...it was a result of the Trawler owners greed...they were offered a deal with Iceland and Norway...back in the 70's....but no...they wanted the lot and to keep fishing right up to there shoreline !!! | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? " jeez how can you have proof of anything before its happenned? 
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
Take it you havent been to mansfield recently best thing ever happened to it was coal mining going and though its sad the demise of steel in sheffield has resulted in projects such as sheffield business park which is booming
I also notice you dont seem to be sad about the demise of the fishing industry in your own town maybe because its the eu at fault"Oh and i also forgot to mention...check up on where this money came to build the said parks you have mentioned...i'll think you will find thats its not come from the UK government..its the same money as thats builts the same business parks around were i live...thats replaced the fishing...oh and btw...Grimsby isnt called Europe's food town for nothing you know | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
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" jeez how can you have proof of anything before its happenned? "You really believe that? So you aren't sure that the sun will come up tomorrow yet because it hasn't happened yet? You're not sure that Brexit will happen because it hasn't happened yet? You really come out with daft comments sometimes. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
Quite simple. If the EU imposes trade tariffs, so do we.
It won't happen.
Unless they want to encourage us to produce our own Brie and BMWs.
That's not how it works, under WTO rules they will either have to charge us tariffs, or get rid of all tariffs that they have with every non-EU county in the world.
So there could be worldwide open trade.....that would be terrible?"It depends what you do. If you work in ship building, your job will probably move to South Korea or elsewhere in the world. If you work in steel, you job would be decimated by the flood of cheap, import free steel from China. If you work in farming or food manufacturing, once we leave the EU, people wont have to keep to the same EU standards so you will get much cheaper products flooding our market, affecting our farmers. Free trade with NZ for example is going to be devastating to British sheep farming. If you work in manufacturing, your job is probably going to go to China. But it's not all bad news, if you work in banking or insurance you will probably benefit from the new markets. So there will be winners and losers. | |||
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" jeez how can you have proof of anything before its happenned?
You really believe that? So you aren't sure that the sun will come up tomorrow yet because it hasn't happened yet?
You're not sure that Brexit will happen because it hasn't happened yet?
You really come out with daft comments sometimes."comedy gold again | |||
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" jeez how can you have proof of anything before its happenned?
You really believe that? So you aren't sure that the sun will come up tomorrow yet because it hasn't happened yet?
You're not sure that Brexit will happen because it hasn't happened yet?
You really come out with daft comments sometimes.
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol what, like you? No tbh...im quite sad at the thought of these things happening...i saw the heartache when the coalmines were shut...and steelworks were sold off etc etc
This is nothing to do with the EU and Brexit it is simply different manufacturers competing with eachother to try and get 'deals'
What dont you get...turn on Sky news and watch....this is happening...Nissan HAVE suspended all investment in the plant until the outcome is know....they look like now the new model of the car will be built elsewhere....Land Rover have said the same thing...BMW in Oxford have also said similar things...they all want compensating if and i say if...which is likey the EU imposes import tariffs
like I said, they are just trying to be the first in to get deals or compensation, its nonsense. And the important word is 'if'. There will not be tariffs"exactly, this is a nonsense scaremongering thread all "if's" and "it could" comments, similar to the run up to the referendum, all pathetic scare stories from the remain camp the ones with no bottle. what if, they could, the cow may jump over the moon, don't bloody think so. | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish." No they haven't. As yet they haven't said a word. The only mention of this that I have seen is from Martin Schulz and he will probably be out of his job in January. Also Martin Kerber is the head of the BDI (like UK CBI) and although he does carry some clout he does not speak directly for any German business. As for the other doom mongers they have more back tracks than the bloody ramblers association. The OECD. ONS. IMF (among others). And even bloody George Osbourne are almost fighting each other as to who can back track the quickest. Meanwhile in the rest of the EU. Germany and the Czech republic are advising people to keep at least five days food in reserve.
Deutsche bank is on the brink of collapse as is the whole Italian banking system. The French economy is stagnant (at best) and the Greek tragedy hasn't gone away, it's only sleeping for a while.
Brexit and a few lost jobs will be a walk in the park compared to the whirlwind that is going to hit this side of the channel. VERY SOON.
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? " For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish. No they haven't. As yet they haven't said a word. The only mention of this that I have seen is from Martin Schulz and he will probably be out of his job in January. Also Martin Kerber is the head of the BDI (like UK CBI) and although he does carry some clout he does not speak directly for any German business. As for the other doom mongers they have more back tracks than the bloody ramblers association. The OECD. ONS. IMF (among others). And even bloody George Osbourne are almost fighting each other as to who can back track the quickest. Meanwhile in the rest of the EU. Germany and the Czech republic are advising people to keep at least five days food in reserve.
Deutsche bank is on the brink of collapse as is the whole Italian banking system. The French economy is stagnant (at best) and the Greek tragedy hasn't gone away, it's only sleeping for a while.
Brexit and a few lost jobs will be a walk in the park compared to the whirlwind that is going to hit this side of the channel. VERY SOON.
Remember you heard it here first. "So you were tuned into Radio Scotland yesterday aswell as they had same debate, perhaps, many heard it there first | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish. No they haven't. As yet they haven't said a word. The only mention of this that I have seen is from Martin Schulz and he will probably be out of his job in January. Also Martin Kerber is the head of the BDI (like UK CBI) and although he does carry some clout he does not speak directly for any German business. As for the other doom mongers they have more back tracks than the bloody ramblers association. The OECD. ONS. IMF (among others). And even bloody George Osbourne are almost fighting each other as to who can back track the quickest. Meanwhile in the rest of the EU. Germany and the Czech republic are advising people to keep at least five days food in reserve.
Deutsche bank is on the brink of collapse as is the whole Italian banking system. The French economy is stagnant (at best) and the Greek tragedy hasn't gone away, it's only sleeping for a while.
Brexit and a few lost jobs will be a walk in the park compared to the whirlwind that is going to hit this side of the channel. VERY SOON.
Remember you heard it here first.
So you were tuned into Radio Scotland yesterday aswell as they had same debate, perhaps, many heard it there first"No sorry being in Germany I missed that. However I did post similar on another thread a few days ago so I think I'm still in front.  | |||
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"Whats the situation with Audi, BMW and VW? Anyone heard? They are saying "no special deals for Britain" all the Brexit talk about Germany won't let anything happen to us because of car sales is rubbish. No they haven't. As yet they haven't said a word. The only mention of this that I have seen is from Martin Schulz and he will probably be out of his job in January. Also Martin Kerber is the head of the BDI (like UK CBI) and although he does carry some clout he does not speak directly for any German business. As for the other doom mongers they have more back tracks than the bloody ramblers association. The OECD. ONS. IMF (among others). And even bloody George Osbourne are almost fighting each other as to who can back track the quickest. Meanwhile in the rest of the EU. Germany and the Czech republic are advising people to keep at least five days food in reserve.
Deutsche bank is on the brink of collapse as is the whole Italian banking system. The French economy is stagnant (at best) and the Greek tragedy hasn't gone away, it's only sleeping for a while.
Brexit and a few lost jobs will be a walk in the park compared to the whirlwind that is going to hit this side of the channel. VERY SOON.
Remember you heard it here first.
So you were tuned into Radio Scotland yesterday aswell as they had same debate, perhaps, many heard it there first
No sorry being in Germany I missed that. However I did post similar on another thread a few days ago so I think I'm still in front. "I can substantiate this...as I read it. Refreshing to hear someone who lives in mainland EU talking sense. Latest quarterly a GDP figures for UK show a 0.7% rise ...post brexit! [nit saying x4 to get annual but probably close]. It's higher by far than any country in the rest of the EU. Most of which are stagnant at best and many in recession. Figures for inward investment have also risen...despite predictions from all the "experts" that predicted it falling off a cliff. It seems that many business leaders are not doing what the "experts" expected. Maybe those who actually do the business, rather than studied it at college to become an "expert", haven't read the same books? | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any." I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! " That is proof of nothing. It's just one commissioner giving an opinion before negotiations have even started. A lot bigger voices will have a lot of input before anything is decided. There is no "proof" of anything, either way. | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! That is proof of nothing. It's just one commissioner giving an opinion before negotiations have even started. A lot bigger voices will have a lot of input before anything is decided. There is no "proof" of anything, either way." You are so naive | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! That is proof of nothing. It's just one commissioner giving an opinion before negotiations have even started. A lot bigger voices will have a lot of input before anything is decided. There is no "proof" of anything, either way. You are so naive " I quite often put LOL to things that make me smile, but that really made me laugh. Being called naive by a fully paid up member of generation snowflake is absolutely priceless. You have really brightened up my morning. | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! That is proof of nothing. It's just one commissioner giving an opinion before negotiations have even started. A lot bigger voices will have a lot of input before anything is decided. There is no "proof" of anything, either way. You are so naive I quite often put LOL to things that make me smile, but that really made me laugh. Being called naive by a fully paid up member of generation snowflake is absolutely priceless. You have really brightened up my morning. " your proof of your lack of naivety is to basically attack everyone younger than you and simply dismiss their ideas based on the year of their birth. Great idea. | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! That is proof of nothing. It's just one commissioner giving an opinion before negotiations have even started. A lot bigger voices will have a lot of input before anything is decided. There is no "proof" of anything, either way. You are so naive I quite often put LOL to things that make me smile, but that really made me laugh. Being called naive by a fully paid up member of generation snowflake is absolutely priceless. You have really brightened up my morning.
your proof of your lack of naivety is to basically attack everyone younger than you and simply dismiss their ideas based on the year of their birth. Great idea. "Maybe more a proof of ignorance than nativity....and they say with age come maturity LOL | |||
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"So no one is able to provide any proof at all that tariffs won't be introduced? For exactly the same reason you can't provide any proof that they will. Because nothing has been negotiated yet. I can't give you proof that there is life on Mars. and you can't give me proof that there isn't. We just haven't found any. I provided you proof already, a video of the EU trade commissioner explaining it to you. So as our old friend used to say, back of the net! That is proof of nothing. It's just one commissioner giving an opinion before negotiations have even started. A lot bigger voices will have a lot of input before anything is decided. There is no "proof" of anything, either way. You are so naive I quite often put LOL to things that make me smile, but that really made me laugh. Being called naive by a fully paid up member of generation snowflake is absolutely priceless. You have really brightened up my morning.
your proof of your lack of naivety is to basically attack everyone younger than you and simply dismiss their ideas based on the year of their birth. Great idea. "Huh? Oh well go on then I'll bite. Let's talk about naivety. I think the naive person is the one who thinks that politicians always tell the truth and don't drop soundbites into an issue before negotiations start to give them that little bit more leverage when they do. Ever heard of jockeying for position? It goes like this. Before the start of a National Hunt race the jockeys will walk their horses around just behind the tape so that when it goes up they are facing forward and moving rather than going from a standing start. It gives them a little bit of an advantage before the race actually begins. Or at a yacht regatta where the boats again try to get themselves in the right place just before the starting gun. All this bullshit you seem to want to call proof is exactly the same thing. Politicians trying to get a hard line point in early to try to give themselves a bit of an edge when negotiations actually start. It's a bit like the old union barons in the 70's. They would walk into a meeting demanding this, that, and the other, but in the end came out with some form of compromise. It's called (among other things) political posturing. The naive one is the one that sees the above and then chucks out idiotic words like "proof" | |||
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"The wise old men of Fab. Much more knowledgeable than the heads of the UK car manufacturers and banking sector. Who would ever believe a real person when there are such luminary fantasists existing right here on Fab. " What "UK" car manufacturers would they be then. Peugeot? French. Mini? German. Rolls Royce? German Jaguar Land Rover? Indian Honda and Nissan? Japanese. As for fantasy? I think you will find that the only real fantasists are the remainers who want to paint a black fantasy where everything is doom and gloom. I'm quite sure that some of it will be a bit painful but if handled correctly I'm sure Britain will come out the other side in a lot better condition than some of the remaining EU countries. If the EU in its current form even still exists in five years time. As I've said in earlier posts, there is some serious shit getting very close to the EU fan and being detached or semi detached will be a much more comfortable place to be in the next few years. | |||
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"The wise old men of Fab. Much more knowledgeable than the heads of the UK car manufacturers and banking sector. Who would ever believe a real person when there are such luminary fantasists existing right here on Fab. What "UK" car manufacturers would they be then. Peugeot? French. Mini? German. Rolls Royce? German Jaguar Land Rover? Indian Honda and Nissan? Japanese. As for fantasy? I think you will find that the only real fantasists are the remainers who want to paint a black fantasy where everything is doom and gloom. I'm quite sure that some of it will be a bit painful but if handled correctly I'm sure Britain will come out the other side in a lot better condition than some of the remaining EU countries. If the EU in its current form even still exists in five years time. As I've said in earlier posts, there is some serious shit getting very close to the EU fan and being detached or semi detached will be a much more comfortable place to be in the next few years." Agreed the remainers only talk about the bad things that MIGHT happen, as you say the EU could be a different place in 2 years. A lot of other EU countries are now looking at immigration too. The next 12 months could decide the fate of the EU with two of its biggest countries having elections France & Germany. | |||
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"The wise old men of Fab. Much more knowledgeable than the heads of the UK car manufacturers and banking sector. Who would ever believe a real person when there are such luminary fantasists existing right here on Fab. What "UK" car manufacturers would they be then. Peugeot? French. Mini? German. Rolls Royce? German Jaguar Land Rover? Indian Honda and Nissan? Japanese. As for fantasy? I think you will find that the only real fantasists are the remainers who want to paint a black fantasy where everything is doom and gloom. I'm quite sure that some of it will be a bit painful but if handled correctly I'm sure Britain will come out the other side in a lot better condition than some of the remaining EU countries. If the EU in its current form even still exists in five years time. As I've said in earlier posts, there is some serious shit getting very close to the EU fan and being detached or semi detached will be a much more comfortable place to be in the next few years." What has the ownership of a company got to do with where they manufacture their cars? Nissan have explicitly stated that future investment in the Sunderland plant is being put on hold until and unless continued access to the single market is confirmed or the UK Govt confirms that it will provide subsidies in light of potential future tariffs. Ironically, Nissan did warn about this in the run up to the EU Referendum and it was dismissed as scaremongering and the city voted Brexit. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears?
I actually remember when they built that plant...it was done with EU money...and it was a toss up basically between there and Sth Humberside at the time....but your right...they were feed bullshit by the brexiters and believed it....oh well sometimes YOU get what you wish for...im sure some of the smaller countries in the EU will welcome these companies with open arms lol
We,ll see they hav,nt moved yet. "And we haven't even begun the process to leave yet. Bur carry on living in la-la land while those of us who actually care about our country try to make the best of the situation you BREXIT sell outs have landed us all in. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears?
I actually remember when they built that plant...it was done with EU money...and it was a toss up basically between there and Sth Humberside at the time....but your right...they were feed bullshit by the brexiters and believed it....oh well sometimes YOU get what you wish for...im sure some of the smaller countries in the EU will welcome these companies with open arms lol
We,ll see they hav,nt moved yet.
And we haven't even begun the process to leave yet. Bur carry on living in la-la land while those of us who actually care about our country try to make the best of the situation you BREXIT sell outs have landed us all in."Watch this space and I mean Germany for the next year or two. I think it's not long off when the Remainers will be thanking the Brexiters for helping them dodge a bullet. Mark my words. Serious shit is coming and as I've said before Brexit will be nothing more than a sideshow to the main event. | |||
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"Looks like the predictions were right about exiting the EU now...with two of the major car manufactures coming out and holding back investment in the plants....i bet there's some of the EU countries rubbing there hands in glee lol It's like Turkeys having voted for Christmas though. Sunderland has a huge workforce in car manufacturing which will be badly hit, yet they voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. Perhaps the North East doesn't know what happens when the industry disappears?
I actually remember when they built that plant...it was done with EU money...and it was a toss up basically between there and Sth Humberside at the time....but your right...they were feed bullshit by the brexiters and believed it....oh well sometimes YOU get what you wish for...im sure some of the smaller countries in the EU will welcome these companies with open arms lol
We,ll see they hav,nt moved yet.
And we haven't even begun the process to leave yet. Bur carry on living in la-la land while those of us who actually care about our country try to make the best of the situation you BREXIT sell outs have landed us all in."La la la la la la la la Has the world ended yet? No ok La la la la. | |||
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