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"Yes I definitely voted right. I used a pencil and put a cross in a box - that was the right way wasn't it?" No. You voted in the correct manner. Now, did you vote the right way? | |||
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"Yes I definitely voted right. I used a pencil and put a cross in a box - that was the right way wasn't it? No. You voted in the correct manner. Now, did you vote the right way?" Without a doubt | |||
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"I voted Remain and still think that was the right vote, but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and for Brexit to prove to be the big success the Leave campaign promised it would be." | |||
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"I voted out and would do so again. All the fear mongering proved to be wrong! " | |||
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" we are now in a state of limbo with an evil sadist tory who wont call a general election (which she should) and she has no intention of signing us out. " Why should she ???????? | |||
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"I voted out and would do so again. All the fear mongering proved to be wrong! " Except nothing has happened yet! We haven't left, we haven't even officially said we will. It is way to early to say the fear mongering was wrong | |||
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"I voted out and would do so again. All the fear mongering proved to be wrong! Except nothing has happened yet! We haven't left, we haven't even officially said we will. It is way to early to say the fear mongering was wrong" Only time will tell but then it'll be too fooking late anyway  | |||
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"I voted Remain and still think that was the right vote, but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and for Brexit to prove to be the big success the Leave campaign promised it would be." this.. given its very early days and still much uncertainty let alone clarity who knows but however we voted we are all now actually in this together.. | |||
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" we are now in a state of limbo with an evil sadist tory who wont call a general election (which she should) and she has no intention of signing us out. Why should she ????????" The PM was voted in and stepped down. She has binned his election campagne and more importantly, she wasnt voted in. Her power is inherited on the pretense of a general election happening due to cameron backing out. But even then it leaves us with a simple choice of the rock or the hard place. Also remember it was both a tory and ukip member who said about sinking the 350million a week into the nhs and puling it out of the slum its been put in In complete honesty, my personal opinion is our politicians should be held accountable for their actions whetger it be a war crime or simply lying to the public with election promises that never happen | |||
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"I voted out and would do so again. All the fear mongering proved to be wrong! Except nothing has happened yet! We haven't left, we haven't even officially said we will. It is way to early to say the fear mongering was wrong" No it's not too early at all, we were threatened with an emergency budget, told the markets would tank.... all utter tosh. Go look at the OEC trade figures yourself, we are in a cracking position to negotiate trade deals with the EU and other countries the EU were too 'committee based' to agree deals with. | |||
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"Who knows what will happen at this point.. It seems the political drivers for leave kinda lost their bottle after the result was in their favour... They have all seemed a little sheepish recently, although it is yesterday's news now so hardly any reporting on it. Personally, I cannot see it making a huge difference in London, it's the other parts of the UK that will be losing their eu grants and handouts that i fear for. " It's London and the financial markets that have the most to fear!! | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it " How can people regret something that hasn't even happened yet. The Tories are making a complete hash of things now and are not standing by their pledge to honour the way of the public vote. | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are..." Of course it will! Back door negotiations are already taking place so that markets can be calmed soon after its triggered. | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are..." And your comment about racism is pathetic! | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... Of course it will! Back door negotiations are already taking place so that markets can be calmed soon after its triggered." Back door negotiations my arse | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... Of course it will! Back door negotiations are already taking place so that markets can be calmed soon after its triggered Back door negotiations my arse "You may need to eat those words lol | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... And your comment about racism is pathetic! " It may be pathetic but sadly it's true...race crimes have gone up since brexit... | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... And your comment about racism is pathetic! It may be pathetic but sadly it's true...race crimes have gone up since brexit..." More race crimes have been reported by the media!! It's not true what so ever. Most people (I accept there will be a minority) didn't vote leave because they are racists! The EU is actually anti movement of labour! It's a protection racket for the EU. Using all our migration quota at the detriment of other countries outside the EU | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... Of course it will! Back door negotiations are already taking place so that markets can be calmed soon after its triggered Back door negotiations my arse
You may need to eat those words lol"You may need to about markets being calmed as well. My point being there are still two major events yet to happen and until they do, we cannot say if it was the right decision or not (and we may never actually know either way). First of those is the invoking of article 50. You are probably right about the need to calm the markets at that and certainly I would not be surpised if some attempts at negotiations are already happening. No idea how successfully... Second would be when we actually leave and the resulting relationship with Europe. Still too much to be sorted to say if it was right or not | |||
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"I take it does who voted are now a bregreter, the older generation didnt think of the younger ones and of their future." That's one of the reasons I voted out, so the grandkids didn't grow up being ruled by unelected foreigners. | |||
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"I take it does who voted are now a bregreter, the older generation didnt think of the younger ones and of their future. That's one of the reasons I voted out, so the grandkids didn't grow up being ruled by unelected foreigners." I distinctly remember going to vote for my MEP | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... Of course it will! Back door negotiations are already taking place so that markets can be calmed soon after its triggered Back door negotiations my arse
You may need to eat those words lol
You may need to about markets being calmed as well.
My point being there are still two major events yet to happen and until they do, we cannot say if it was the right decision or not (and we may never actually know either way).
First of those is the invoking of article 50. You are probably right about the need to calm the markets at that and certainly I would not be surpised if some attempts at negotiations are already happening. No idea how successfully...
Second would be when we actually leave and the resulting relationship with Europe.
Still too much to be sorted to say if it was right or not" | |||
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"I take it does who voted are now a bregreter, the older generation didnt think of the younger ones and of their future. That's one of the reasons I voted out, so the grandkids didn't grow up being ruled by unelected foreigners." Yes, but many students are worried about education, costs and things as some thinks of living in the eu as it would be better all in all. | |||
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"Do you still think you voted right - whatever you voted for" Yes | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... Of course it will! Back door negotiations are already taking place so that markets can be calmed soon after its triggered Back door negotiations my arse
You may need to eat those words lol
You may need to about markets being calmed as well.
My point being there are still two major events yet to happen and until they do, we cannot say if it was the right decision or not (and we may never actually know either way).
First of those is the invoking of article 50. You are probably right about the need to calm the markets at that and certainly I would not be surpised if some attempts at negotiations are already happening. No idea how successfully...
Second would be when we actually leave and the resulting relationship with Europe.
Still too much to be sorted to say if it was right or not"In terms of the EU it will end up a zero sum game, markets have already priced in article 50 and the outcome of that. All that Brexit means is that we will have more trade deals.... simples... | |||
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"How do you know it's not true if your only point of reference is the mainstream media?..." I'm stating that all You are basing that on.... go look at actual policing crime numbers! The media as always are sensationalising so that you carry on reading the sun lol | |||
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"I take it does who voted are now a bregreter, the older generation didnt think of the younger ones and of their future. That's one of the reasons I voted out, so the grandkids didn't grow up being ruled by unelected foreigners." We didn't vote for the royal family but we're ruled by a German and a Greek | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are..." That is right, because may is a remainer at heart and wont trigger article 50, she knows that being in the eu makes sense. | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are...That is right, because may is a remainer at heart and wont trigger article 50, she knows that being in the eu makes sense." Utter tosh! Of course it will be triggered! | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks " Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls....." Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse " I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. " Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Let's get this straight. 1. Article 50 will be triggered! 2. Trade deals will be negotiated and faster than they would have been if still in the EU 3. Those trade deals will be beneficial to Britain (not 28 other EU countries) 4. Other countries outside the EU that currently don't have a trade deal are lining up to create one with us! Australia and the US for example. 5. 79% of GDP is wholly internal trade, 11% is trade with non EU members, 10% of GDP is trade with the EU (stop f'ing panicking) 6. The EU need a trade deal with Britain- we are a major export destination for (the major) EU countries. So don't panic, sleep easy and be proud to be British!" No it won't...Don't delude yourself that the Tories will trigger article 50...it'll be swept under the carpet til it's all forgotten about | |||
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"Let's get this straight. 1. Article 50 will be triggered! 2. Trade deals will be negotiated and faster than they would have been if still in the EU 3. Those trade deals will be beneficial to Britain (not 28 other EU countries) 4. Other countries outside the EU that currently don't have a trade deal are lining up to create one with us! Australia and the US for example. 5. 79% of GDP is wholly internal trade, 11% is trade with non EU members, 10% of GDP is trade with the EU (stop f'ing panicking) 6. The EU need a trade deal with Britain- we are a major export destination for (the major) EU countries. So don't panic, sleep easy and be proud to be British! No it won't...Don't delude yourself that the Tories will trigger article 50...it'll be swept under the carpet til it's all forgotten about" I'm sorry mate, that's nonsense! | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!!" I'll say it again What an arse | |||
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"Let's get this straight. 1. Article 50 will be triggered! 2. Trade deals will be negotiated and faster than they would have been if still in the EU 3. Those trade deals will be beneficial to Britain (not 28 other EU countries) 4. Other countries outside the EU that currently don't have a trade deal are lining up to create one with us! Australia and the US for example. 5. 79% of GDP is wholly internal trade, 11% is trade with non EU members, 10% of GDP is trade with the EU (stop f'ing panicking) 6. The EU need a trade deal with Britain- we are a major export destination for (the major) EU countries. So don't panic, sleep easy and be proud to be British! No it won't...Don't delude yourself that the Tories will trigger article 50...it'll be swept under the carpet til it's all forgotten about" If they dont then expect a ukip landslide at the next election and I dont think they have any better candidates to run the country than labour so be careful what you wish for | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse " And your opinion matters so much to me...... | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me......" Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me...... Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit" | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me...... Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit "It was proved that Brexit caused the collapse of low cost holidays You probably haven't heard of them from your private plane To dismiss anyone's comments as absurd tell me all I need to know about you | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!! "Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future. You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy? | |||
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"Let's get this straight. 1. Article 50 will be triggered! 2. Trade deals will be negotiated and faster than they would have been if still in the EU 3. Those trade deals will be beneficial to Britain (not 28 other EU countries) 4. Other countries outside the EU that currently don't have a trade deal are lining up to create one with us! Australia and the US for example. 5. 79% of GDP is wholly internal trade, 11% is trade with non EU members, 10% of GDP is trade with the EU (stop f'ing panicking) 6. The EU need a trade deal with Britain- we are a major export destination for (the major) EU countries. So don't panic, sleep easy and be proud to be British! No it won't...Don't delude yourself that the Tories will trigger article 50...it'll be swept under the carpet til it's all forgotten about If they dont then expect a ukip landslide at the next election and I dont think they have any better candidates to run the country than labour so be careful what you wish for" They don't have enough money to field sufficient candidates and with a membership that peaked at 39,000 and is now steadily falling there is little prospect of that changing. Aaron Banks' £million is long spent and his interest is now elsewhere. As for the new Leader..... Neither an upgrade or even a step sideways. | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me...... Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit
It was proved that Brexit caused the collapse of low cost holidays
You probably haven't heard of them from your private plane
To dismiss anyone's comments as absurd tell me all I need to know about you "Nothing of the sort was 'proved' to BS so much tells me everything I need to know about you! Have a great day! | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy? "I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!? You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods! If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals. That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!! Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha | |||
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are... And your comment about racism is pathetic! " | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha"Well said
as you mentioned Switzerland, a quick check would let people see that they are selling to Japan and China at a more competitive advantage to the EU and there are plenty more examples | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha
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"Do you still think you voted right - whatever you voted for" Voted Leave, and absolutely. . We are headed in right direction and the UK is turning for the better . Looks like a lot of humble pie will be getting ate by the remain camp. | |||
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"Do you still think you voted right - whatever you voted for Voted Leave, and absolutely. . We are headed in right direction and the UK is turning for the better . Looks like a lot of humble pie will be getting ate by the remain camp." | |||
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" we are now in a state of limbo with an evil sadist tory who wont call a general election (which she should) and she has no intention of signing us out. Why should she ???????? The PM was voted in and stepped down. she wasnt voted in. " Cameron wasn't voted in to start with, the Conservative party was voted into power not a single individual. Now if the Conservative party ceased to exist then yes a general election would be required, not just a change of party leader. | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me...... Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit
It was proved that Brexit caused the collapse of low cost holidays
You probably haven't heard of them from your private plane
To dismiss anyone's comments as absurd tell me all I need to know about you "Lowcostholidays.co.uk: the now-bankrupt firm that didn’t sell low-cost holidays and wasn’t in the UK. Terrible business model from a Spanish tour agent. | |||
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" we are now in a state of limbo with an evil sadist tory who wont call a general election (which she should) and she has no intention of signing us out. Why should she ???????? The PM was voted in and stepped down. She has binned his election campagne and more importantly, she wasnt voted in. Her power is inherited on the pretense of a general election happening due to cameron backing out. But even then it leaves us with a simple choice of the rock or the hard place. Also remember it was both a tory and ukip member who said about sinking the 350million a week into the nhs and puling it out of the slum its been put in In complete honesty, my personal opinion is our politicians should be held accountable for their actions whetger it be a war crime or simply lying to the public with election promises that never happen" Just a point about this statement, a general election vote is for a political party not a person. And the Tories rightly or wrongly won the mandate at the last general election. They could have Ten different leaders as Prime Minister, in the space of one parliament and there wouldn't need to be another General Election. | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me...... Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit
It was proved that Brexit caused the collapse of low cost holidays
You probably haven't heard of them from your private plane
To dismiss anyone's comments as absurd tell me all I need to know about you
Lowcostholidays.co.uk: the now-bankrupt firm that didn’t sell low-cost holidays and wasn’t in the UK.
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"Article 50 will never be triggered so the entire referendum was just a social engineering experiment to see how racist the British people are...That is right, because may is a remainer at heart and wont trigger article 50, she knows that being in the eu makes sense. Utter tosh! Of course it will be triggered! " Agreed. It will definitely be triggered. And I am a Remainer. | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha"You remind me of a conversation I had in another life in N Ireland when a man was pointing at a green car and told me with conviction that it was red. 1) Treasury tax receipts from the banking sector are the largest by sector and irreplaceable. 2) Any country negotiating a trade deal looks st how they can benefit. Production in the UK (or EU) is irrelevant to China because the primary motivation is to sell products to those consumers whilst not being damaged by imports of good that they themselves produce as well. As you said - but don't understand "That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little......". A dream trade deal for China who therefore get all of the benefits. Sorry to point out the obvious but wanting something to be true does not make you an expert on anything. | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha
You remind me of a conversation I had in another life in N Ireland when a man was pointing at a green car and told me with conviction that it was red.
1) Treasury tax receipts from the banking sector are the largest by sector and irreplaceable.
2) Any country negotiating a trade deal looks st how they can benefit. Production in the UK (or EU) is irrelevant to China because the primary motivation is to sell products to those consumers whilst not being damaged by imports of good that they themselves produce as well. As you said - but don't understand "That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little......". A dream trade deal for China who therefore get all of the benefits.
Sorry to point out the obvious but wanting something to be true does not make you an expert on anything. "You are missing the point. If some sections of that 400 million export bugger all then they will insist on high tariffs for imported goods to protect their own industries or farmers or whatever and the remaining sections have to agree with/impose those tariffs. China for example then imposes tariffs on the exports of all sections of the 400 million. You are confusing a bloc of 400 million people with a country of 400 million. How do you think Switzerland get a better deal with China than the EU does? | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha
You remind me of a conversation I had in another life in N Ireland when a man was pointing at a green car and told me with conviction that it was red.
1) Treasury tax receipts from the banking sector are the largest by sector and irreplaceable.
2) Any country negotiating a trade deal looks st how they can benefit. Production in the UK (or EU) is irrelevant to China because the primary motivation is to sell products to those consumers whilst not being damaged by imports of good that they themselves produce as well. As you said - but don't understand "That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little......". A dream trade deal for China who therefore get all of the benefits.
Sorry to point out the obvious but wanting something to be true does not make you an expert on anything. "No but working in those financial markets does make me an expert on them! Yes financial centre of London is a huge revenue generator, but you're suggesting that it won't be when article 50 is triggered?!? Why will revenues from the financial sector differ?!? And I'm sorry but you have no understanding of cross border trading. I'll lay my hat that we have a trade deal with the US before the EU does! The population density is irrelevant! And the EU have had a 10 year head start! | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha
You remind me of a conversation I had in another life in N Ireland when a man was pointing at a green car and told me with conviction that it was red.
1) Treasury tax receipts from the banking sector are the largest by sector and irreplaceable.
2) Any country negotiating a trade deal looks st how they can benefit. Production in the UK (or EU) is irrelevant to China because the primary motivation is to sell products to those consumers whilst not being damaged by imports of good that they themselves produce as well. As you said - but don't understand "That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little......". A dream trade deal for China who therefore get all of the benefits.
Sorry to point out the obvious but wanting something to be true does not make you an expert on anything.
You are missing the point. If some sections of that 400 million export bugger all then they will insist on high tariffs for imported goods to protect their own industries or farmers or whatever and the remaining sections have to agree with/impose those tariffs. China for example then imposes tariffs on the exports of all sections of the 400 million. You are confusing a bloc of 400 million people with a country of 400 million. How do you think Switzerland get a better deal with China than the EU does?"Well said... As I said in an earlier post everyone is an economist overnight! | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people." If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people. If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! " There's no need to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with you. Obviously people on both sides are guilty of this but seriously. Spouting off stuff about needing glove puppets is unnecessary. I came to my own, educated opinion about which way to vote, based on sources I trust, personal experience and experience and views of those in the industry in which I work. So far what we thought would happen has, unfortunately, happened. Time will tell if more and better things come along as a result of the decision taken, (and as I said in my first post if it does I will be thrilled to be proved wrong) but it's far too early to say that's the case. I've seen far more about why anyone who voted Remain is an idiot, needs to eat humble pie and is whingeing than I've seen actual concrete examples of how anything positive has yet emerged from the vote. It's too early for any of us to really know the implications, so your pedestal of smug exclamation is a tad premature. | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people. If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! " | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people. If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! There's no need to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with you. Obviously people on both sides are guilty of this but seriously. Spouting off stuff about needing glove puppets is unnecessary. I came to my own, educated opinion about which way to vote, based on sources I trust, personal experience and experience and views of those in the industry in which I work. So far what we thought would happen has, unfortunately, happened. Time will tell if more and better things come along as a result of the decision taken, (and as I said in my first post if it does I will be thrilled to be proved wrong) but it's far too early to say that's the case. I've seen far more about why anyone who voted Remain is an idiot, needs to eat humble pie and is whingeing than I've seen actual concrete examples of how anything positive has yet emerged from the vote. It's too early for any of us to really know the implications, so your pedestal of smug exclamation is a tad premature. " I'm not belittling anyone, I'm pointing out where they are wrong, if people don't like that then they shouldn't be spouting nonsense in a public forum! I've seen the opposite about anyone who voted out is a xenophobic idiot, but then we have differing views and so that is to be expected. We were told by the remain camp that the markets will be in turmoil, that we would get an emergency budget, that financials will re locate.... all of which was nonsense. I work at a global financial and we have buildings in London as well as Dublin, to allow us to 'passport' to the EU, none of this will change, in fact we are bolstering distribution in Britain post Brexit in case there are issues with passporting into Britain post article 50. The only thing that has happened is in the FX market and that is a tale of two halves. Many forecasters and economists are now re assessing the outlook for Britain and admitting they got it wrong..... In terms of markets, expect volatility through sentiment (not fundamentals)but in the end the outlook looks prosperous for British businesses. That's forgetting that 79% of GDP is wholly internal and only 10% of GDP is attributable to free trade with the EU. | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people. If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! There's no need to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with you. Obviously people on both sides are guilty of this but seriously. Spouting off stuff about needing glove puppets is unnecessary. I came to my own, educated opinion about which way to vote, based on sources I trust, personal experience and experience and views of those in the industry in which I work. So far what we thought would happen has, unfortunately, happened. Time will tell if more and better things come along as a result of the decision taken, (and as I said in my first post if it does I will be thrilled to be proved wrong) but it's far too early to say that's the case. I've seen far more about why anyone who voted Remain is an idiot, needs to eat humble pie and is whingeing than I've seen actual concrete examples of how anything positive has yet emerged from the vote. It's too early for any of us to really know the implications, so your pedestal of smug exclamation is a tad premature. " Ps since the Brexit vote the FTSE 100 is up 16.63%..... even FTSE small cap is up over 19% (supposedly the worst hit post Brexit) hardly the stock market crash the bremainers were predicting..... lots to be smiley about..... | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people. If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! There's no need to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with you. Obviously people on both sides are guilty of this but seriously. Spouting off stuff about needing glove puppets is unnecessary. I came to my own, educated opinion about which way to vote, based on sources I trust, personal experience and experience and views of those in the industry in which I work. So far what we thought would happen has, unfortunately, happened. Time will tell if more and better things come along as a result of the decision taken, (and as I said in my first post if it does I will be thrilled to be proved wrong) but it's far too early to say that's the case. I've seen far more about why anyone who voted Remain is an idiot, needs to eat humble pie and is whingeing than I've seen actual concrete examples of how anything positive has yet emerged from the vote. It's too early for any of us to really know the implications, so your pedestal of smug exclamation is a tad premature. I'm not belittling anyone, I'm pointing out where they are wrong, if people don't like that then they shouldn't be spouting nonsense in a public forum! I've seen the opposite about anyone who voted out is a xenophobic idiot, but then we have differing views and so that is to be expected. We were told by the remain camp that the markets will be in turmoil, that we would get an emergency budget, that financials will re locate.... all of which was nonsense. I work at a global financial and we have buildings in London as well as Dublin, to allow us to 'passport' to the EU, none of this will change, in fact we are bolstering distribution in Britain post Brexit in case there are issues with passporting into Britain post article 50. The only thing that has happened is in the FX market and that is a tale of two halves. Many forecasters and economists are now re assessing the outlook for Britain and admitting they got it wrong..... In terms of markets, expect volatility through sentiment (not fundamentals)but in the end the outlook looks prosperous for British businesses. That's forgetting that 79% of GDP is wholly internal and only 10% of GDP is attributable to free trade with the EU." Not belittling? Glove puppets and the Daily Star? Really? I suggest you read back some of your comments and explain to me how they aren't patronising. Maybe use glove puppets and a few more exclamation marks if you think I won't understand all your big words. It's great that the industry you work in thinks it will be unaffected. The area I work in has already been affected negatively, unfortunately, and we don't know yet what it means for the longer term. And yes it is still too soon to tell. Article 50 hasn't even been triggered never mind the nature of future arrangements set out so yes, you are still premature in lording it up over everyone who chose for their own good reasons to vote differently to you. | |||
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"I'm still waiting for my refund from the holiday company that went bust due to Brexit Stopping me from taking my kids away And just bought some euros £175 got me £185 euros Way to go chaps Thanks Haha- they were going bust prior to brexit!! There are many advantages to having weaker sterling!! Sorry if it means less ice cream on your holls..... Did you just say 'haha' ? What an arse I was laughing at the absurdity of the comment!! I'll say it again What an arse And your opinion matters so much to me...... Take no notice some people blame everything on Brexit
It was proved that Brexit caused the collapse of low cost holidays
You probably haven't heard of them from your private plane
To dismiss anyone's comments as absurd tell me all I need to know about you "I've just turned my screens on a little research for you. In the last year the FTSE leisure entertainment and hotels index returned 7.57% not a bad return. Post Brexit it has made 15.48% (27/06/16-22/09/16).... the point I'm making is that holiday companies and hotels have done better post Brexit. Brexit hasn't had a bad effect on all holiday companies what so ever..... just badly capitalised and managed ones mate. | |||
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"Still with all the exclamation marks. Maybe Remainers are just calmer and more measured people. If people actually knew what they were talking about before spouting nonsense then maybe we'd be calmer! Haha Just all out of crayons and glove puppets trying to explain to people what it actually means instead of what they read in the press or the back of the daily sport! There's no need to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with you. Obviously people on both sides are guilty of this but seriously. Spouting off stuff about needing glove puppets is unnecessary. I came to my own, educated opinion about which way to vote, based on sources I trust, personal experience and experience and views of those in the industry in which I work. So far what we thought would happen has, unfortunately, happened. Time will tell if more and better things come along as a result of the decision taken, (and as I said in my first post if it does I will be thrilled to be proved wrong) but it's far too early to say that's the case. I've seen far more about why anyone who voted Remain is an idiot, needs to eat humble pie and is whingeing than I've seen actual concrete examples of how anything positive has yet emerged from the vote. It's too early for any of us to really know the implications, so your pedestal of smug exclamation is a tad premature. I'm not belittling anyone, I'm pointing out where they are wrong, if people don't like that then they shouldn't be spouting nonsense in a public forum! I've seen the opposite about anyone who voted out is a xenophobic idiot, but then we have differing views and so that is to be expected. We were told by the remain camp that the markets will be in turmoil, that we would get an emergency budget, that financials will re locate.... all of which was nonsense. I work at a global financial and we have buildings in London as well as Dublin, to allow us to 'passport' to the EU, none of this will change, in fact we are bolstering distribution in Britain post Brexit in case there are issues with passporting into Britain post article 50. The only thing that has happened is in the FX market and that is a tale of two halves. Many forecasters and economists are now re assessing the outlook for Britain and admitting they got it wrong..... In terms of markets, expect volatility through sentiment (not fundamentals)but in the end the outlook looks prosperous for British businesses. That's forgetting that 79% of GDP is wholly internal and only 10% of GDP is attributable to free trade with the EU. Not belittling? Glove puppets and the Daily Star? Really? I suggest you read back some of your comments and explain to me how they aren't patronising. Maybe use glove puppets and a few more exclamation marks if you think I won't understand all your big words. It's great that the industry you work in thinks it will be unaffected. The area I work in has already been affected negatively, unfortunately, and we don't know yet what it means for the longer term. And yes it is still too soon to tell. Article 50 hasn't even been triggered never mind the nature of future arrangements set out so yes, you are still premature in lording it up over everyone who chose for their own good reasons to vote differently to you. " I wasn't belittling, I was taking the mickey! The reason for talking about financials is because they were the supposedly worst hit post Brexit! In my office when the results came in it was like Armageddon had been called. Sorry to hear about your work being affected negatively, but this is not down to Brexit whatever your bosses tell you, it's an excuse to make cutbacks by senior management without looking like the bad guys as they have an excuse. Be interesting to know what sector you're in. | |||
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"Why do brexiteers use so many exclamation marks? I noticed this in the run up to the referendum too. Just so...strident and manic seeming. Because we get miffed at all the utter nonsense spouted by people who've all become economists since brexit!!!!!!!!!!!
Except that in your list of facts just a few posts up you singularly avoided mention of the Banks. The U.K. treasury single biggest receipt by sector and absolutely no certainty for the future.
You also conveniently forget that trade deals are a two way street and each country does what is best for them. You really are on another planet if you think that the UK would get a better deal represented by an economy of 60 million as opposed to being represented by an economy of 400 million. By what kind of logic would anyone give better terms to a smaller economy?
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You have no understanding of what you're talking about! What are you suggesting the treasury is in receipt of?!?
You also do not understand the mechanics of trade deals. You've listened to the Bremain fallacies! You need to look at what countries actually trade with each other, who are net importers and exporters and what goods and indeed the value of those goods!
If your logic was correct (it isn't) then why isn't a trade deal between the US and the EU in place? The EU is effectively a committee, with each country within it looking out for its own interests, hence rarely all agreeing to trade deals.
That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little...... yet those countries still have a say in trade deals.... it's why Switzerland has made more trade deals than the EU has!!
Sorry to point stuff out, but as I've said, Brexit has suddenly made everyone economists overnight!! Haha
You remind me of a conversation I had in another life in N Ireland when a man was pointing at a green car and told me with conviction that it was red.
1) Treasury tax receipts from the banking sector are the largest by sector and irreplaceable.
2) Any country negotiating a trade deal looks st how they can benefit. Production in the UK (or EU) is irrelevant to China because the primary motivation is to sell products to those consumers whilst not being damaged by imports of good that they themselves produce as well. As you said - but don't understand "That 'economy of 400 million' you mention has counties that export bugger all, that produce very little......". A dream trade deal for China who therefore get all of the benefits.
Sorry to point out the obvious but wanting something to be true does not make you an expert on anything.
You are missing the point. If some sections of that 400 million export bugger all then they will insist on high tariffs for imported goods to protect their own industries or farmers or whatever and the remaining sections have to agree with/impose those tariffs. China for example then imposes tariffs on the exports of all sections of the 400 million. You are confusing a bloc of 400 million people with a country of 400 million. How do you think Switzerland get a better deal with China than the EU does?
Well said...
As I said in an earlier post everyone is an economist overnight! "Cheers. I'm no economist and can at times be a bit thick
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Time will tell if more and better things come along as a result of the decision taken, (and as I said in my first post if it does I will be thrilled to be proved wrong) but it's far too early to say that's the case. I've seen far more about why anyone who voted Remain is an idiot, needs to eat humble pie and is whingeing than I've seen actual concrete examples of how anything positive has yet emerged from the vote. It's too early for any of us to really know the implications, so your pedestal of smug exclamation is a tad premature. I'm not belittling anyone, I'm pointing out where they are wrong, if people don't like that then they shouldn't be spouting nonsense in a public forum! I've seen the opposite about anyone who voted out is a xenophobic idiot, but then we have differing views and so that is to be expected. We were told by the remain camp that the markets will be in turmoil, that we would get an emergency budget, that financials will re locate.... all of which was nonsense. I work at a global financial and we have buildings in London as well as Dublin, to allow us to 'passport' to the EU, none of this will change, in fact we are bolstering distribution in Britain post Brexit in case there are issues with passporting into Britain post article 50. The only thing that has happened is in the FX market and that is a tale of two halves. Many forecasters and economists are now re assessing the outlook for Britain and admitting they got it wrong..... In terms of markets, expect volatility through sentiment (not fundamentals)but in the end the outlook looks prosperous for British businesses. That's forgetting that 79% of GDP is wholly internal and only 10% of GDP is attributable to free trade with the EU. Not belittling? Glove puppets and the Daily Star? Really? I suggest you read back some of your comments and explain to me how they aren't patronising. Maybe use glove puppets and a few more exclamation marks if you think I won't understand all your big words. It's great that the industry you work in thinks it will be unaffected. The area I work in has already been affected negatively, unfortunately, and we don't know yet what it means for the longer term. And yes it is still too soon to tell. Article 50 hasn't even been triggered never mind the nature of future arrangements set out so yes, you are still premature in lording it up over everyone who chose for their own good reasons to vote differently to you. I wasn't belittling, I was taking the mickey! The reason for talking about financials is because they were the supposedly worst hit post Brexit! In my office when the results came in it was like Armageddon had been called. Sorry to hear about your work being affected negatively, but this is not down to Brexit whatever your bosses tell you, it's an excuse to make cutbacks by senior management without looking like the bad guys as they have an excuse. Be interesting to know what sector you're in. Even that's a bit patronising, you obviously can't help it. You're assuming I'm some lowly employee who will believe everything "my bosses" tell me about the budgets. It doesn't occur to you that someone who voted remain might BE management and understand full well the kind of budget decisions made and why? I don't wish to go into details about where I work. But so far the uncertainty around the future of European funding has led to the demise of a number of projects which would have helped create good jobs and led to the axeing of a deal worth a potential £900m of investment for a region which really needs it. And the people I work with have seen inward investment enquiries and completions absolutely drop off a cliff compared to this time last year. As I said, this might be temporary and something better might come along. But it hasn't yet and nobody can promise it will. But you're assuming that we won't fund that region. The EU only gave us back a fraction of what we gave them, so longer term expect that flow to come back internally. " If "we" wanted to fund this region, "we" would have been doing it already. And it doesn't change the fact that stuff on the ground now has been axed because of the future uncertainty because no one has confirmed anything yet. Longer term, maybe the govenrment *will* reverse the trend of decades and begin investing in the region. But in the short term, this has happened and it has had negative implications. | |||
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What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before? "Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !! You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer | |||
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What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before? "Why the hell arent we going to be able to buy anything ? Sometimes its a good idea to engage brain before typing | |||
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What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer"I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen. Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad? Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before? | |||
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"We voted out, get over it! Britain will be better off. End of story.... now get behind your country and stop whining! Have to agree
same here. The remain arguments just get more ridiculous by the day"Just trying to stop the country from slitting its own throat. I know you dont care anyway, you love the EU so much you're moving to Spain right? | |||
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"This is like religion, you cant argue to someone who is "radicalised". Or a whole bunch of people with sour grapes." Yes or the grapes there lol. | |||
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"If i was to tell you to watch out as a runaway bus hurtled towards you would that be scaremongering ......or a fair warning......see you do not know if it is the right decision....neither do i. In fact no one knows for sure.....but it will be a decade of upheaval whatever way....oh and fuck off with this get behind the UK stuff...waving flags and claiming everything is rosy is for the weak minded"
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"This is like religion, you cant argue to someone who is "radicalised". Or a whole bunch of people with sour grapes." Or people with an informed point of view which differs from yours? It's not sour grapes to remain concerned about the direction this is going to take us in and the long term implications, and to voice those concerns. If a bunch of jumped up boorish businessmen want to dismiss my opinion, well most of them would have disregarded it anyway as the female, young and northern don't appear to have any place in Farage et al's view of Britain. | |||
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"This is like religion, you cant argue to someone who is "radicalised". Or a whole bunch of people with sour grapes. Or people with an informed point of view which differs from yours? It's not sour grapes to remain concerned about the direction this is going to take us in and the long term implications, and to voice those concerns. If a bunch of jumped up boorish businessmen want to dismiss my opinion, well most of them would have disregarded it anyway as the female, young and northern don't appear to have any place in Farage et al's view of Britain." | |||
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"We voted out, get over it! Britain will be better off. End of story.... now get behind your country and stop whining! Have to agree
same here. The remain arguments just get more ridiculous by the day
Just trying to stop the country from slitting its own throat. I know you dont care anyway, you love the EU so much you're moving to Spain right? "Ok I will bite once more. I will be moving to Spain in a few years hopefully yes but my son who is 13 now will be staying in the UK, attending university then taking the path of his choosing. I voted to leave the EU for his future. The country slit its throat? Didn't your experts say that that would happen the day after a Brexit vote? But no, the truth is the UK is growing faster now than every major economy in the world. So now the doom mongers say that actually disaster will strike 2 years down the line. It is pathetic. Open your eyes and realise the bullshit you are being fed. Oh to go through life hoping that the worst will happen just to win an arguement and to be able to say I was right. How totally utterly sad. Fortunately you are wrong | |||
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"This is like religion, you cant argue to someone who is "radicalised". Or a whole bunch of people with sour grapes. Or people with an informed point of view which differs from yours? It's not sour grapes to remain concerned about the direction this is going to take us in and the long term implications, and to voice those concerns. If a bunch of jumped up boorish businessmen want to dismiss my opinion, well most of them would have disregarded it anyway as the female, young and northern don't appear to have any place in Farage et al's view of Britain." Well people like you and I and the millions of other people who voted remain aren't "real" or "decent"according to Farage | |||
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"This is like religion, you cant argue to someone who is "radicalised". Or a whole bunch of people with sour grapes. Or people with an informed point of view which differs from yours? It's not sour grapes to remain concerned about the direction this is going to take us in and the long term implications, and to voice those concerns. If a bunch of jumped up boorish businessmen want to dismiss my opinion, well most of them would have disregarded it anyway as the female, young and northern don't appear to have any place in Farage et al's view of Britain. Well people like you and I and the millions of other people who voted remain aren't "real" or "decent"according to Farage" I've never been more proud to be indecent as when I saw that little performance | |||
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"We voted out, get over it! Britain will be better off. End of story.... now get behind your country and stop whining! Have to agree
same here. The remain arguments just get more ridiculous by the day
Just trying to stop the country from slitting its own throat. I know you dont care anyway, you love the EU so much you're moving to Spain right?
Ok I will bite once more. I will be moving to Spain in a few years hopefully yes but my son who is 13 now will be staying in the UK, attending university then taking the path of his choosing. I voted to leave the EU for his future. The country slit its throat? Didn't your experts say that that would happen the day after a Brexit vote? But no, the truth is the UK is growing faster now than every major economy in the world. So now the doom mongers say that actually disaster will strike 2 years down the line. It is pathetic. Open your eyes and realise the bullshit you are being fed. Oh to go through life hoping that the worst will happen just to win an arguement and to be able to say I was right. How totally utterly sad. Fortunately you are wrong"Well it's nice to see you're leaving your kids in the mess you leave behind so you can sip Sangria in the sunshine. I doubt your son will go to a top class university in the UK now that you have voted to slash their funding and their ability to collaborate as easily with institutions around Europe. The predictions were made on the assumption that article 50 would be triggered immediately. Cameron was stupid to have called the referendum, but was smart enough to hand the article 50 poisoned chalice on to his successor. | |||
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"This is like religion, you cant argue to someone who is "radicalised". Or a whole bunch of people with sour grapes. Or people with an informed point of view which differs from yours? It's not sour grapes to remain concerned about the direction this is going to take us in and the long term implications, and to voice those concerns. If a bunch of jumped up boorish businessmen want to dismiss my opinion, well most of them would have disregarded it anyway as the female, young and northern don't appear to have any place in Farage et al's view of Britain." I find that a lot of people who continue to complain about the referendum result are just full of sour grapes. Not everyone, but a lot | |||
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same here. The remain arguments just get more ridiculous by the day
Just trying to stop the country from slitting its own throat. I know you dont care anyway, you love the EU so much you're moving to Spain right?
Ok I will bite once more. I will be moving to Spain in a few years hopefully yes but my son who is 13 now will be staying in the UK, attending university then taking the path of his choosing. I voted to leave the EU for his future. The country slit its throat? Didn't your experts say that that would happen the day after a Brexit vote? But no, the truth is the UK is growing faster now than every major economy in the world. So now the doom mongers say that actually disaster will strike 2 years down the line. It is pathetic. Open your eyes and realise the bullshit you are being fed. Oh to go through life hoping that the worst will happen just to win an arguement and to be able to say I was right. How totally utterly sad. Fortunately you are wrong
Well it's nice to see you're leaving your kids in the mess you leave behind so you can sip Sangria in the sunshine. I doubt your son will go to a top class university in the UK now that you have voted to slash their funding and their ability to collaborate as easily with institutions around Europe.
The predictions were made on the assumption that article 50 would be triggered immediately. Cameron was stupid to have called the referendum, but was smart enough to hand the article 50 poisoned chalice on to his successor."No they were,nt the predictions were made if we voted out not when Article 50 is invoked. David Cameron should have had a leave plan in place he knew there was a chance we would vote leave he was the PM not Farage or Johnson. | |||
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" Fuck, this is all getting rather tedious, the majority voted out so lets all pull together and try and make it work instead of whinging and feeling sorry for yourselves. " Fuck, this is all getting rather tedious, 36% of voters voted to leave so lets all pull together and make sure it doesn't happen insteaf of whinging and feeling sorry for ourselves after it's too late. | |||
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"Em...can i just point out we have not left yet....This "boom" in building is all taking place within the E U market let us see where we are in 10yrs. I work in the finance sector and be assured all those doom mongers your quoting as being "wrong" Are trying to sort out the financial vandalism that is about to take place on our country. I do not mean the spiv element who once again will crash the market when it suits there strategy. Be assured a rough ride is certain,will we survive ? of course but we have made it harder for ourselves . "I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about! I work in financial markets too, except that everyone I work with knows how to spell 'their' and 'You're'...... you may work in the sector but you're no economist!! | |||
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What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer
I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen.
Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad?
Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before? "But it's not a complete unknown! We assign probability to events based on past or similar occurrence. We then use mathematics and economic models to predict. Is it 100% accurate, no of course not, because of the variables, but it's not as uneducated as you're making out. | |||
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"If i was to tell you to watch out as a runaway bus hurtled towards you would that be scaremongering ......or a fair warning......see you do not know if it is the right decision....neither do i. In fact no one knows for sure.....but it will be a decade of upheaval whatever way....oh and fuck off with this get behind the UK stuff...waving flags and claiming everything is rosy is for the weak minded" There was scaremongering about an emergency budget, about the markets tanking...... all utter tosh! The fundamentals for British companies have hardly changed, for some Brexit makes it slightly tougher, for others easier..... | |||
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"We voted out, get over it! Britain will be better off. End of story.... now get behind your country and stop whining! Have to agree
same here. The remain arguments just get more ridiculous by the day
Just trying to stop the country from slitting its own throat. I know you dont care anyway, you love the EU so much you're moving to Spain right?
Ok I will bite once more. I will be moving to Spain in a few years hopefully yes but my son who is 13 now will be staying in the UK, attending university then taking the path of his choosing. I voted to leave the EU for his future. The country slit its throat? Didn't your experts say that that would happen the day after a Brexit vote? But no, the truth is the UK is growing faster now than every major economy in the world. So now the doom mongers say that actually disaster will strike 2 years down the line. It is pathetic. Open your eyes and realise the bullshit you are being fed. Oh to go through life hoping that the worst will happen just to win an arguement and to be able to say I was right. How totally utterly sad. Fortunately you are wrong" | |||
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"Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!! So we just need to see what happens, Article 50 will happen hopefully sooner rather than later. I work in the construction industry and have done all my adult life, I can catergorically state that construction is booming. House building is rising every day, Hospitals are being built, extensions to hospitals are being built, More Schools are being built, Wraehouse and distribution depots are springing up everywhere. Food factories, massive cold stores, are being built, Data centres,wind farms. The list goes on, and the call for skilled labour is stronger than ever, which means we do need immigration, controlled in my opinion, but the growing need is there. Also the holiday makers coming to this country has gone up dont know the figures I missed that, and people from the UK going abroad has hit 7 million according to a report on radio 5 live. So lets not be all doom and gloom, letrs get behind the UK and make it an even better country than it all ready is.
What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer
I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen.
Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad?
Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before?
But it's not a complete unknown! We assign probability to events based on past or similar occurrence. We then use mathematics and economic models to predict. Is it 100% accurate, no of course not, because of the variables, but it's not as uneducated as you're making out."So you are agreeing with me that the first line in the post that I quoted "Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!!” is complete bollocks then? | |||
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" Fuck, this is all getting rather tedious, the majority voted out so lets all pull together and try and make it work instead of whinging and feeling sorry for yourselves. Fuck, this is all getting rather tedious, 36% of voters voted to leave so lets all pull together and make sure it doesn't happen insteaf of whinging and feeling sorry for ourselves after it's too late." You sir, are a buffoon! | |||
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"Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!! So we just need to see what happens, Article 50 will happen hopefully sooner rather than later. I work in the construction industry and have done all my adult life, I can catergorically state that construction is booming. House building is rising every day, Hospitals are being built, extensions to hospitals are being built, More Schools are being built, Wraehouse and distribution depots are springing up everywhere. Food factories, massive cold stores, are being built, Data centres,wind farms. The list goes on, and the call for skilled labour is stronger than ever, which means we do need immigration, controlled in my opinion, but the growing need is there. Also the holiday makers coming to this country has gone up dont know the figures I missed that, and people from the UK going abroad has hit 7 million according to a report on radio 5 live. So lets not be all doom and gloom, letrs get behind the UK and make it an even better country than it all ready is.
What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer
I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen.
Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad?
Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before?
But it's not a complete unknown! We assign probability to events based on past or similar occurrence. We then use mathematics and economic models to predict. Is it 100% accurate, no of course not, because of the variables, but it's not as uneducated as you're making out.
So you are agreeing with me that the first line in the post that I quoted "Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!!” is complete bollocks then?"You're a buffoon! | |||
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"Em...can i just point out we have not left yet....This "boom" in building is all taking place within the E U market let us see where we are in 10yrs. I work in the finance sector and be assured all those doom mongers your quoting as being "wrong" Are trying to sort out the financial vandalism that is about to take place on our country. I do not mean the spiv element who once again will crash the market when it suits there strategy. Be assured a rough ride is certain,will we survive ? of course but we have made it harder for ourselves .
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about! I work in financial markets too, except that everyone I work with knows how to spell 'their' and 'You're'...... you may work in the sector but you're no economist!!"Where have you and your incredibly omnipotent attitude suddenly appeared from? The only expert economist that have suddenly appeared are people like you. Not one credible economist, economic forecaster, eminent world leader and the vast majority of business leaders believe the economic case for the UK to stay in the EU. It is the Brexiters who have suddenly become the new amateur economists. People like you who claim to be in the financial sector but appear incredibly lacking in knowledge of the implications of the loss of passporting rights. | |||
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"If i was to tell you to watch out as a runaway bus hurtled towards you would that be scaremongering ......or a fair warning......see you do not know if it is the right decision....neither do i. In fact no one knows for sure.....but it will be a decade of upheaval whatever way....oh and fuck off with this get behind the UK stuff...waving flags and claiming everything is rosy is for the weak minded There was scaremongering about an emergency budget, about the markets tanking...... all utter tosh! The fundamentals for British companies have hardly changed, for some Brexit makes it slightly tougher, for others easier..... " What are you talking about? Nobody even knows what Brexit is yet. | |||
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"Em...can i just point out we have not left yet....This "boom" in building is all taking place within the E U market let us see where we are in 10yrs. I work in the finance sector and be assured all those doom mongers your quoting as being "wrong" Are trying to sort out the financial vandalism that is about to take place on our country. I do not mean the spiv element who once again will crash the market when it suits there strategy. Be assured a rough ride is certain,will we survive ? of course but we have made it harder for ourselves .
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about! I work in financial markets too, except that everyone I work with knows how to spell 'their' and 'You're'...... you may work in the sector but you're no economist!!
Where have you and your incredibly omnipotent attitude suddenly appeared from? The only expert economist that have suddenly appeared are people like you. Not one credible economist, economic forecaster, eminent world leader and the vast majority of business leaders believe the economic case for the UK to stay in the EU.
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" Fuck, this is all getting rather tedious, the majority voted out so lets all pull together and try and make it work instead of whinging and feeling sorry for yourselves. Fuck, this is all getting rather tedious, 36% of voters voted to leave so lets all pull together and make sure it doesn't happen insteaf of whinging and feeling sorry for ourselves after it's too late." What part of ""the majority voted out"" do you not understand??????????  | |||
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"Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!! So we just need to see what happens, Article 50 will happen hopefully sooner rather than later. I work in the construction industry and have done all my adult life, I can catergorically state that construction is booming. House building is rising every day, Hospitals are being built, extensions to hospitals are being built, More Schools are being built, Wraehouse and distribution depots are springing up everywhere. Food factories, massive cold stores, are being built, Data centres,wind farms. The list goes on, and the call for skilled labour is stronger than ever, which means we do need immigration, controlled in my opinion, but the growing need is there. Also the holiday makers coming to this country has gone up dont know the figures I missed that, and people from the UK going abroad has hit 7 million according to a report on radio 5 live. So lets not be all doom and gloom, letrs get behind the UK and make it an even better country than it all ready is.
What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer
I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen.
Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad?
Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before?
But it's not a complete unknown! We assign probability to events based on past or similar occurrence. We then use mathematics and economic models to predict. Is it 100% accurate, no of course not, because of the variables, but it's not as uneducated as you're making out.
So you are agreeing with me that the first line in the post that I quoted "Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!!” is complete bollocks then?
You're a buffoon!"So you could predict what would happen to the construction industry if we ran out of building materials, you could predict what would happen if we joined the Euro, and you can predict what would happen if China invaded, but you can't predict what would happen if we leave the EU?  Where has this particular blind spot come from? This whole idea of "no one knows what will happen because we have never experienced Brexit" is simply a tiny fig leaf trying to cover the ignorance of Brexit voters. | |||
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"Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!! So we just need to see what happens, Article 50 will happen hopefully sooner rather than later. I work in the construction industry and have done all my adult life, I can catergorically state that construction is booming. House building is rising every day, Hospitals are being built, extensions to hospitals are being built, More Schools are being built, Wraehouse and distribution depots are springing up everywhere. Food factories, massive cold stores, are being built, Data centres,wind farms. The list goes on, and the call for skilled labour is stronger than ever, which means we do need immigration, controlled in my opinion, but the growing need is there. Also the holiday makers coming to this country has gone up dont know the figures I missed that, and people from the UK going abroad has hit 7 million according to a report on radio 5 live. So lets not be all doom and gloom, letrs get behind the UK and make it an even better country than it all ready is.
What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer
I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen.
Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad?
Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before?
But it's not a complete unknown! We assign probability to events based on past or similar occurrence. We then use mathematics and economic models to predict. Is it 100% accurate, no of course not, because of the variables, but it's not as uneducated as you're making out.
So you are agreeing with me that the first line in the post that I quoted "Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!!” is complete bollocks then?
You're a buffoon!"I've never known anyone like him, comes out with such ridiculous scenarios or twisting of words to attempt to appear right when he's pissing in the wind blind. I just ignore him now. | |||
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"Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!! So we just need to see what happens, Article 50 will happen hopefully sooner rather than later. I work in the construction industry and have done all my adult life, I can catergorically state that construction is booming. House building is rising every day, Hospitals are being built, extensions to hospitals are being built, More Schools are being built, Wraehouse and distribution depots are springing up everywhere. Food factories, massive cold stores, are being built, Data centres,wind farms. The list goes on, and the call for skilled labour is stronger than ever, which means we do need immigration, controlled in my opinion, but the growing need is there. Also the holiday makers coming to this country has gone up dont know the figures I missed that, and people from the UK going abroad has hit 7 million according to a report on radio 5 live. So lets not be all doom and gloom, letrs get behind the UK and make it an even better country than it all ready is.
What would happen to the construction industry if you could no longer buy bricks or steal or concrete? Or wouldn't you be able to tell me because that has never happened before?
Why wouldnt we be able to buy bricks or steel or concrete !!
You are so negative all the time its bloody annoying
You are obviously an intelligent guy i juust dont understand why you cannot accept we are keaving and get behind your country
Things are looking positive so stol being a doom sayer
I never said that Brexit would mean that we wouldn't, I was putting a scenario to you that hasn't happened before to see if you could tell me what would happen.
Let's try another one and see how you do with that shall we? Britain has never joined the Euro before, would joining be good or bad?
Russia has never invaded the UK before, if they did, would it be good or bad for the economy? Or does nobody know because it hasn't happened before?
But it's not a complete unknown! We assign probability to events based on past or similar occurrence. We then use mathematics and economic models to predict. Is it 100% accurate, no of course not, because of the variables, but it's not as uneducated as you're making out.
So you are agreeing with me that the first line in the post that I quoted "Obviously no one knows what is going to happen in the future as no one has ever been through a Brexit !!!!” is complete bollocks then?
You're a buffoon!
I've never known anyone like him, comes out with such ridiculous scenarios or twisting of words to attempt to appear right when he's pissing in the wind blind.
I just ignore him now.
"Me, the military, the security services, world leaders, the royal society, the bank of England, the IFS, PwC, the IMF, the TUC, CBI, NATO...... We're all just pissing in the wind huh? | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here......" I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK What a stupid statement you think we have all been planted here by the Leave Campaign or maybe by Aliens intent on taking over the planet. "It is quite a conservative forum for a liberal lifestyle. Only an opinion. No facts to support it  | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK" It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK What a stupid statement you think we have all been planted here by the Leave Campaign or maybe by Aliens intent on taking over the planet.
Ok Doggy, the 10 regular posters on the politics forum are fully representative of the 65 million people in the UK
I sometimes feel like whatever I say you guys would disagree with me. "We are ALL ordinary people just like you or do you think you are special? I am one of those 65 million people so I must be a representative of them. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away " Tell me about it. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away " Is that why you are still here because your not rational. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away Tell me about it. " Yes a lot have been driven away by you. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away " yes, but who drove them away
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too many cry babies on here, "True, people who post thick and fast throwing accusations around, but then disappear when they are proven to be wrong. People who set up whole threads aimed at attacking other forum members People who have personal abuse aimed at a single person almost as a signature at the bottom of every single post they make. People who consistently use terms like remoaner, remaniac etc. People who consistently tell people who disagree with them to simply shut up. Those kind of people don't make it a particularly welcoming section of the forum do they? | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away yes, but who drove them away
too many cry babies on here,
True, people who post thick and fast throwing accusations around, but then disappear when they are proven to be wrong.
People who set up whole threads aimed at attacking other forum members
People who have personal abuse aimed at a single person almost as a signature at the bottom of every single post they make.
People who consistently use terms like remoaner, remaniac etc.
People who consistently tell people who disagree with them to simply shut up.
Those kind of people don't make it a particularly welcoming section of the forum do they? "you also missed out the people who are very quick to hit the report button rather than continue debate now who is known for doing that | |||
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too many cry babies on here, "I can only speak for myself. I'm only here now if something I've posted on elsewhere has been moved into this forum. All the politics posts are awful now, it's the same 5 people lobbing thinly veiled abuse at one another while still cavorting gleefully about the fact that for once they backed the "winning" side. That's not being a cry baby, it's having been driven away by endless repetitive drivel. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away Is that why you are still here because your not rational. "I'd never class myself as fully rational, but I never come to the politics forum by choice. It's because I've commented on something that started in the Lounge and was moved. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK What a stupid statement you think we have all been planted here by the Leave Campaign or maybe by Aliens intent on taking over the planet.
It is quite a conservative forum for a liberal lifestyle. Only an opinion. No facts to support it "I think you will find most swingers are lefties, the ones on the forums are anyway. | |||
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"I will assume many people who voted out now regret it Not from the usual comments on here...... I would suggest that the politics forum of Fab is not representative of the general population of the UK It's not even representative of the general population of the rest of the forum...most rational posters have been driven away yes, but who drove them away
too many cry babies on here,
True, people who post thick and fast throwing accusations around, but then disappear when they are proven to be wrong.
People who set up whole threads aimed at attacking other forum members
People who have personal abuse aimed at a single person almost as a signature at the bottom of every single post they make.
People who consistently use terms like remoaner, remaniac etc.
People who consistently tell people who disagree with them to simply shut up.
Those kind of people don't make it a particularly welcoming section of the forum do they?
you also missed out the people who are very quick to hit the report button rather than continue debate
now who is known for doing that"No one is known for doing that. This is a moderated forum so if someone breaks the rules then the mods will take action. We dont know if it's because something was reported, or just because the mods read the thread. As the mods themselves have pointed out before, people only get in trouble for what they post. It doesn't matter if someone reports someone else's post, if the mods look at it and deem no rules have been broken, no action is taken. I have never seen, or heard of a mod removing a post or banning someone for their political views, just for breaking the published forum rules. So it has absolutely nothing to do with "continuing the debate" as you claim. People only have themselves to blame (me included) when they get themselves a ban. I got banned for posting a .ac.uk link, but you dont see me accusing others of hitting the report button do you? | |||
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"Do you still think you voted right - whatever you voted for" I'm happy with my vote. So are those who I know who also voted the same way. Funnily enough four people I know who voted remain now wish they had voted leave - they voted remain as they were worried about the predicted apocalypse and World War Three x | |||
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 There are still too many countries viewing themselves as Special Ivory Towers to be protected at the expense of others. Sigh.
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