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" UK Prime Minister Theresa May is likely to trigger the formal process of leaving the European Union early next year, according to a top EU official. European Council President Donald Tusk said Mrs May had told him the UK could be ready to begin talks by February & trigger article 50 European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker insisted that the UK could not get access to the single market without accepting the free movement of workers. Mrs May has insisted that in any negotiations, her government would insist on placing curbs on EU citizens entering the UK So is February a fine time to set the ball rolling " Personally I would have liked to see it done sooner, but if February is the time the government needs to get ready and put plans in place for leaving then I'm happy to wait until then. Any longer than February though and people who voted Leave are going to start getting very impatient. As for that buffoon Jean Claude Juncker, I really don't take much notice of what he says, it's Germany who holds the power play cards in the EU and Germany will want good trade terms with the UK because we are the biggest customer for their biggest export which is Germany cars. The EU will have to address the free movement of people issue with the UK because Teresa May has said free movement of people from the EU as we currently have it must stop. | |||
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"Neither the French or Germans are keen on starting before the new year because they both have elections coming up, a deal will be done in the end that gives all side something they need, its called politics " Their both hoping we,ll change our minds by telling us they are going to hard on us don't think they realise how stubborn we can be. | |||
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"......, Their both hoping we,ll change our minds by telling us they are going to hard on us don't think they realise how stubborn we can be. " A poster above has it bang on. Theresa May told Tusk that just to take the heat off and kick the can down the road a bit. It would be very un Prime-Ministerial of her to announce such a date without first informing Parliament and her own people. The UK leaving the EU is still far from certain quite simply because it will be the largest, most complex and most time consuming bureaucratic undertaking ever seen in the UK. It would be political and economic suicide to take the UK out of the EU too quickly and by that I mean not doing it properly and thereby leaving the country exposed. Doing the job properly will take time and during that time the political situation in Europe (and the world) will change. What is right today, may be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. The EEC that we joined in the 1970's has evolved year on year into something completely different because political appointments in Europe and the will of the European people made those changes happen. Today's EU will similarly evolve and nobody knows what the situation will be in the UK, France, Getmany and the EU as a whole in two years time. Never say never unless you want to run with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears. | |||
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"......, Their both hoping we,ll change our minds by telling us they are going to hard on us don't think they realise how stubborn we can be. A poster above has it bang on. Theresa May told Tusk that just to take the heat off and kick the can down the road a bit. It would be very un Prime-Ministerial of her to announce such a date without first informing Parliament and her own people. The UK leaving the EU is still far from certain quite simply because it will be the largest, most complex and most time consuming bureaucratic undertaking ever seen in the UK. It would be political and economic suicide to take the UK out of the EU too quickly and by that I mean not doing it properly and thereby leaving the country exposed. Doing the job properly will take time and during that time the political situation in Europe (and the world) will change. What is right today, may be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. The EEC that we joined in the 1970's has evolved year on year into something completely different because political appointments in Europe and the will of the European people made those changes happen. Today's EU will similarly evolve and nobody knows what the situation will be in the UK, France, Getmany and the EU as a whole in two years time. Never say never unless you want to run with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears. " There,s a good chance both France and Germany will have new leaders by then but I still think threatening us is the wrong think to do. | |||
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"......, Their both hoping we,ll change our minds by telling us they are going to hard on us don't think they realise how stubborn we can be. A poster above has it bang on. Theresa May told Tusk that just to take the heat off and kick the can down the road a bit. It would be very un Prime-Ministerial of her to announce such a date without first informing Parliament and her own people. The UK leaving the EU is still far from certain quite simply because it will be the largest, most complex and most time consuming bureaucratic undertaking ever seen in the UK. It would be political and economic suicide to take the UK out of the EU too quickly and by that I mean not doing it properly and thereby leaving the country exposed. Doing the job properly will take time and during that time the political situation in Europe (and the world) will change. What is right today, may be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. The EEC that we joined in the 1970's has evolved year on year into something completely different because political appointments in Europe and the will of the European people made those changes happen. Today's EU will similarly evolve and nobody knows what the situation will be in the UK, France, Getmany and the EU as a whole in two years time. Never say never unless you want to run with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears. There,s a good chance both France and Germany will have new leaders by then but I still think threatening us is the wrong think to do." It tends to only be the Brexit Browbeaters who see threats in every day political chit chat. Unfortunately it is also those very same people who have an unrealistically simplistic view of the world and just want things to be how they want them to be, rather than have to figure out exactly how it will be done. The U.K. does not have a special status in the world and no-one owes us any favours. Every national leader in the world has the responsibility of their own citizens to take into account above all else and certainly has no motivation to put the UK and its citizens above their own. Worldwide political dealings, trade negotiations and all that go with it is hard nosed and without compromise. There is no magic pill that turns "out, out, out" into "nice, nice, nice". | |||
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"......, Their both hoping we,ll change our minds by telling us they are going to hard on us don't think they realise how stubborn we can be. A poster above has it bang on. Theresa May told Tusk that just to take the heat off and kick the can down the road a bit. It would be very un Prime-Ministerial of her to announce such a date without first informing Parliament and her own people. The UK leaving the EU is still far from certain quite simply because it will be the largest, most complex and most time consuming bureaucratic undertaking ever seen in the UK. It would be political and economic suicide to take the UK out of the EU too quickly and by that I mean not doing it properly and thereby leaving the country exposed. Doing the job properly will take time and during that time the political situation in Europe (and the world) will change. What is right today, may be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. The EEC that we joined in the 1970's has evolved year on year into something completely different because political appointments in Europe and the will of the European people made those changes happen. Today's EU will similarly evolve and nobody knows what the situation will be in the UK, France, Getmany and the EU as a whole in two years time. Never say never unless you want to run with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears. " The fingers in your ears comment made me laugh...and reminded me why, after much deliberation I voted out. Tusk was being quizzed by a sky news reporter, just before the referendum vote. It was pointed out that TGE unelected Eurocrats had been the main block on some of the points Cameron had seemed movement on. He, of course denied it but did say that the EU would not compromise as it was "not what we do". When the point was put to him that his actions may actually be a main cause of a leave vote....his reaction was to put his fingers in his ears and to walk away saying "lah, lah, lah'".....that did it for me. My mind was made up...out in no uncertain terms! | |||
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"......, Their both hoping we,ll change our minds by telling us they are going to hard on us don't think they realise how stubborn we can be. A poster above has it bang on. Theresa May told Tusk that just to take the heat off and kick the can down the road a bit. It would be very un Prime-Ministerial of her to announce such a date without first informing Parliament and her own people. The UK leaving the EU is still far from certain quite simply because it will be the largest, most complex and most time consuming bureaucratic undertaking ever seen in the UK. It would be political and economic suicide to take the UK out of the EU too quickly and by that I mean not doing it properly and thereby leaving the country exposed. Doing the job properly will take time and during that time the political situation in Europe (and the world) will change. What is right today, may be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. The EEC that we joined in the 1970's has evolved year on year into something completely different because political appointments in Europe and the will of the European people made those changes happen. Today's EU will similarly evolve and nobody knows what the situation will be in the UK, France, Getmany and the EU as a whole in two years time. Never say never unless you want to run with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears. There,s a good chance both France and Germany will have new leaders by then but I still think threatening us is the wrong think to do. It tends to only be the Brexit Browbeaters who see threats in every day political chit chat. Unfortunately it is also those very same people who have an unrealistically simplistic view of the world and just want things to be how they want them to be, rather than have to figure out exactly how it will be done. The U.K. does not have a special status in the world and no-one owes us any favours. Every national leader in the world has the responsibility of their own citizens to take into account above all else and certainly has no motivation to put the UK and its citizens above their own. Worldwide political dealings, trade negotiations and all that go with it is hard nosed and without compromise. There is no magic pill that turns "out, out, out" into "nice, nice, nice". " Well just wait and see what happen over the next 2 years one think is certain I,ll feel a lot better than you will when we leave.  | |||
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