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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - sorry am unable to read the article, but reports had suggested the religion or nationality of the victims had not been disclosed by the police.." She was "middle eastern" and "wore a scarf" And was found by a mosque..... Hmmm.... | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU" Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views.. | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - " Why would it matter what religion she is? | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - " What's your point here op? | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views.." so you don't think people was doing it before ? somehow being in the EU magically stopped that ? whats the bubble like you live in ![]() | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - What's your point here op? " I'm trying to figure out the same..... | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - Why would it matter what religion she is?" Because if the victim isn't white British then it's a fucking race hate crime ![]() | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU" Totally agree, blaming anything on Brexit is a lame game. | |||
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"Was a year or so ago? Guy looked like generic thug too" Just a few days ago wasn't it? | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - What's your point here op? " they don't mention her religion - because when it's a Muslim lady being attacked - it's a non story or because it's a big story and the police don't want retaliation | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Totally agree, blaming anything on Brexit is a lame game." What drivel?! Race crimes spike after Brexit and you ignore it?! I guess the facts don't matter... | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views.." . No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views.. so you don't think people was doing it before ? somehow being in the EU magically stopped that ? whats the bubble like you live in ![]() Given that the story is a year old it clearly has sod all to do with "Brexit"..... But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story for the bremoaners eh? | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - What's your point here op? they don't mention her religion - because when it's a Muslim lady being attacked - it's a non story or because it's a big story and the police don't want retaliation " So your point is they don't mention her religion? Non story right enough ![]() | |||
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"It is clearly written as a racist attack on a muslim. Don't get the point you are making. Dont get the link to brexit. The perpetrator is scum who should be punished beyond what he will probably receive. Ps this should be move to the politics thread if it is brexit thing. " ?? The article did everything to avoid mentioning the word Muslim the link to Brexit is that race crimes have spiked since Brexit. ..the facts | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Totally agree, blaming anything on Brexit is a lame game. What drivel?! Race crimes spike after Brexit and you ignore it?! I guess the facts don't matter..." black on black crime has risen steadily for decades, is that because of racism? | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - What's your point here op? they don't mention her religion - because when it's a Muslim lady being attacked - it's a non story or because it's a big story and the police don't want retaliation So your point is they don't mention her religion? Non story right enough ![]() If it had been a Muslim guy attacking a whit British lady - the word Muslim would have definitely Ben there. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride" nail-head...thread over | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Totally agree, blaming anything on Brexit is a lame game. What drivel?! Race crimes spike after Brexit and you ignore it?! I guess the facts don't matter... black on black crime has risen steadily for decades, is that because of racism?" ???? Tell me you didn't say this? How many "middle eastern" women have had their unborn children kicked to death that you know of? | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over " Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". | |||
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"BBC news just now: PC Richard Armitage said: "This racially aggravated assault had absolutely devastating consequences for the victim, who lost her baby as a result of the attack." It's a horrible story. But sorry , it doesn't fit your agenda. " No - I think your denial doesnt fit your agenda. Fancy that?! | |||
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"While attacks like this are reportedly getting more common I'm not sure blaming them on the Brexit vote is the right thing to do. Second guessing the cause of why hate crimes are increasing won't stop the attacks" How else do you stop these attacks except by pin pointing the cause? Wishing them away? | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - What's your point here op? they don't mention her religion - because when it's a Muslim lady being attacked - it's a non story or because it's a big story and the police don't want retaliation So your point is they don't mention her religion? Non story right enough ![]() bullshit! lots of race attacks from Muslim's too anyway fuck that religion not being raciest as it's a religion...but 99% of the terror attacks are cause of that shit | |||
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"The fact it's a year old story is even worse, OP what did you hope to achieve from this?" What do you hope to achieve by ignoring it? | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". " if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - What's your point here op? they don't mention her religion - because when it's a Muslim lady being attacked - it's a non story or because it's a big story and the police don't want retaliation So your point is they don't mention her religion? Non story right enough ![]() An intellectual! ! | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything " As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! | |||
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"How else do you stop these attacks except by pin pointing the cause? Wishing them away?" That yob of a guy in the picture has probably hit all kinds of people before. | |||
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"BBC news just now: PC Richard Armitage said: "This racially aggravated assault had absolutely devastating consequences for the victim, who lost her baby as a result of the attack." It's a horrible story. But sorry , it doesn't fit your agenda. No - I think your denial doesnt fit your agenda. Fancy that?!" Can you tell me what I am denying? I have said it is a disgusting racist attack. Please explain what you want? | |||
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"I'm so confused. The date on the article is September 2016 and references the attack in August? Did I click the wrong article or travel to a different time? ![]() ![]() ![]() The story has only come out now! Presumably the police can't find the guy | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Totally agree, blaming anything on Brexit is a lame game. What drivel?! Race crimes spike after Brexit and you ignore it?! I guess the facts don't matter... black on black crime has risen steadily for decades, is that because of racism? ???? Tell me you didn't say this? How many "middle eastern" women have had their unborn children kicked to death that you know of?" . What personally... None, however I did read a story the other day in Afghanistan about some school girls who were set on fire for going to school and tragically they were set on fire by Islamic men who were brown. Interestingly they've made that illegal in Afghanistan as well. . You see, people still do daft shit despite it being illegal, these people are usually backward idiots, there'll latch on to any old shit they hear in the mosque or out on the street of London to perpetrate being a dick... So let's run through it again. If brexit is to blame for race hate crime in London then Islam is to blame for cunts in Afghanistan??... Or Maybe it's just dicks using shit to further their ends | |||
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"BBC news just now: PC Richard Armitage said: "This racially aggravated assault had absolutely devastating consequences for the victim, who lost her baby as a result of the attack." It's a horrible story. But sorry , it doesn't fit your agenda. No - I think your denial doesnt fit your agenda. Fancy that?! Can you tell me what I am denying? I have said it is a disgusting racist attack. Please explain what you want?" I want nothing but to highlight racist attacks are on the increase - and that Brexit is the symptom and the cause | |||
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"While attacks like this are reportedly getting more common I'm not sure blaming them on the Brexit vote is the right thing to do. Second guessing the cause of why hate crimes are increasing won't stop the attacks How else do you stop these attacks except by pin pointing the cause? Wishing them away?" Your Asian. Have you experienced any increase in racism towards you? Or is it about the same? | |||
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"I'm so confused. The date on the article is September 2016 and references the attack in August? Did I click the wrong article or travel to a different time? ![]() ![]() ![]() But it just says August so I assumed August this year. Where does it say it was a year ago? | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - Why would it matter what religion she is?" Because it the religions were reversed - it would be front page news...doh! | |||
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"I'm so confused. The date on the article is September 2016 and references the attack in August? Did I click the wrong article or travel to a different time? ![]() ![]() ![]() It happened a month ago | |||
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"While attacks like this are reportedly getting more common I'm not sure blaming them on the Brexit vote is the right thing to do. Second guessing the cause of why hate crimes are increasing won't stop the attacks How else do you stop these attacks except by pin pointing the cause? Wishing them away?" By tackling the actual cause rather than blaming it on Brexit | |||
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"While attacks like this are reportedly getting more common I'm not sure blaming them on the Brexit vote is the right thing to do. Second guessing the cause of why hate crimes are increasing won't stop the attacks How else do you stop these attacks except by pin pointing the cause? Wishing them away? Your Asian. Have you experienced any increase in racism towards you? Or is it about the same?" For me - no change. But for this lady - a big change. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! " never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() | |||
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"The fact it's a year old story is even worse, OP what did you hope to achieve from this?" It happened in 2016 ?! I am sure that if a Muslim guy had kicked a white lady and shouted "Allan Akbar" - it would have been all over the Daily mail/telegraph... Yet this story..is buried for a month Hmmm....I wonder why? | |||
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"BBC news just now: PC Richard Armitage said: "This racially aggravated assault had absolutely devastating consequences for the victim, who lost her baby as a result of the attack." It's a horrible story. But sorry , it doesn't fit your agenda. No - I think your denial doesnt fit your agenda. Fancy that?! Can you tell me what I am denying? I have said it is a disgusting racist attack. Please explain what you want? I want nothing but to highlight racist attacks are on the increase - and that Brexit is the symptom and the cause " . And I repeat evil acts are on the rise in the middle East, is this because of Islam?. You can't have it both ways, either people don't listen to idiots spouting shit from the Qur'an in which case they don't listen to idiots spouting racist shit here or they do... In which case I'm all in favour of banning brexit and Islam | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - Why would it matter what religion she is? Because it the religions were reversed - it would be front page news...doh!" It's front page on the BBC website and the telgraph website you linked to at the beginning. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() What drivel - if you think we are leaving the EU - you are foolish. We will stay in the EU and just tell people like you we are leaving. Not that will matter to this poor lady. Of course - Brexit had nothing to do with it - the spike in race crimes was all made up. | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - Why would it matter what religion she is? Because it the religions were reversed - it would be front page news...doh! It's front page on the BBC website and the telgraph website you linked to at the beginning. " But with no mention of the word "Muslim" | |||
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"I'm so confused. The date on the article is September 2016 and references the attack in August? Did I click the wrong article or travel to a different time? ![]() ![]() ![]() Thank you! I was genuinely checking I hadn't forgotten that it was 2017 already ![]() ![]() | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument." ![]() | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument." Well said ![]() | |||
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"Prefer to keep politics and religion off here.focus on what the site is about." Avoid ![]() | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() Drivel - utter drivel. A lady loses here baby because of a thug - and the best thing to do is "ignore it". Nice. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() we are leaving and ''tell people like me'' you mean the millions that voted to leave...now who's being foolish | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - Why would it matter what religion she is? Because it the religions were reversed - it would be front page news...doh! It's front page on the BBC website and the telgraph website you linked to at the beginning. But with no mention of the word "Muslim"" How do you know she's a muslim? | |||
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"Prefer to keep politics and religion off here.focus on what the site is about." Just ignore the threads you aren't interested in. People can discuss what they like | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() No ones ignoring it, the police are investigating and you are trying to cause an argument on a site that gets little traffic compared the population perhaps take it to twitter or Facebook. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() Did Mrs May trigger Article 50 today and I missed it? It's a horrible attack. This thread was never going to stick to the story about a racist attack by aligning it to Brexit. I'll step away now. | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() It's been happening before we voted to leave the EU. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() Really - what does "leave mean" - are you going to read all the trade treaties, all the inter govt agreements? And notice the difference from before. no, thought not Any ways - racist attacks have gone up since Brexit. But then - those are facts - as this poor lady found out. | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() Not in the same numbers | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() no it's cause your using it to try and push your Brexit bullshit | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() You do realise we are very much still in the EU and nothing has actually changed? | |||
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"You don't think opting to make our own laws, control our own borders and immigration and choosing how we spend our taxes justify Brexit? The fall in our trade deficit, falling unemployment, trade deals already in the pipe line with the biggest economies and confidence growing daily don't justify leaving the EU? But some imagined connection to unrelated matters does?" I just called your boss - and he agreed to my request to cut your wages by 15% for the same work. To make you more "competitive" and more :export oriented" Am sure you will be happy with that - after all that what a £ devaluation is? A drop in wages for the same work?! Trade deals - who with?Aus - we do £7bn of trade with them compared to £220bn with the EU. As for immigration - without that - the City crumbles as does the tech industry When we lose access to the single market - those that export to it will lose their jobs - while waiting for the difference between that £220bn and the £7bn I will point them in your direction. And we get more bigotry as this lady found out | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() Wow - an intellectual - again | |||
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"You don't think opting to make our own laws, control our own borders and immigration and choosing how we spend our taxes justify Brexit? The fall in our trade deficit, falling unemployment, trade deals already in the pipe line with the biggest economies and confidence growing daily don't justify leaving the EU? But some imagined connection to unrelated matters does? I just called your boss - and he agreed to my request to cut your wages by 15% for the same work. To make you more "competitive" and more :export oriented" Am sure you will be happy with that - after all that what a £ devaluation is? A drop in wages for the same work?! Trade deals - who with?Aus - we do £7bn of trade with them compared to £220bn with the EU. As for immigration - without that - the City crumbles as does the tech industry When we lose access to the single market - those that export to it will lose their jobs - while waiting for the difference between that £220bn and the £7bn I will point them in your direction. And we get more bigotry as this lady found out" It's pretty vile that you are now turning this in to an anti Brexit rant. Did you actually give a toss about the poor woman and her baby beyond seeing it as a political opportunity? | |||
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"starting a political / racial debate on a sex website... Behave yourself. " You are right - it's naughty - and I feel bad - but it's interesting to see how quickly people react. If I had gone on about sex and more sex - I never would have got this amount of responses. But a nasty racist attack and linking it to an outbreak of Little Englanderism ...and boy do people get defensive | |||
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"You don't think opting to make our own laws, control our own borders and immigration and choosing how we spend our taxes justify Brexit? The fall in our trade deficit, falling unemployment, trade deals already in the pipe line with the biggest economies and confidence growing daily don't justify leaving the EU? But some imagined connection to unrelated matters does? I just called your boss - and he agreed to my request to cut your wages by 15% for the same work. To make you more "competitive" and more :export oriented" Am sure you will be happy with that - after all that what a £ devaluation is? A drop in wages for the same work?! Trade deals - who with?Aus - we do £7bn of trade with them compared to £220bn with the EU. As for immigration - without that - the City crumbles as does the tech industry When we lose access to the single market - those that export to it will lose their jobs - while waiting for the difference between that £220bn and the £7bn I will point them in your direction. And we get more bigotry as this lady found out It's pretty vile that you are now turning this in to an anti Brexit rant. Did you actually give a toss about the poor woman and her baby beyond seeing it as a political opportunity?" What drivel - I give a toss - I raised the issue and pointed out the link. And then when someone uses bad economics - I point that out as well | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() cause we've not left yet officially | |||
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"Poor woman but it got ZERO to do with Brexit. Until I here a convicted criminal admit that Brexit motivated them to commit a racist attack, it bullshit. Any arsehole who would do that obviously isn't representative of Brexit. Brexit was reclaiming our default, historic, original status as a free, independent state. " We are about to sign an agreement with Aus - that is not being free - that is being irrelevant. And we will be poorer. Hopefully you will be poorer - because as honourable Brexiters - you should be happy to take the pain when we will lose access to the EU single market. | |||
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"starting a political / racial debate on a sex website... Behave yourself. You are right - it's naughty - and I feel bad - but it's interesting to see how quickly people react. If I had gone on about sex and more sex - I never would have got this amount of responses. But a nasty racist attack and linking it to an outbreak of Little Englanderism ...and boy do people get defensive" As a Remain voting Corbynite who has spent a big part of his life fighting racism. Can I point out that I'm not getting defensive. I just disagree with your agenda and the fact you'd use a dead baby to try and prove a very tenuous point | |||
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"I'm beginning to wonder if your not just using this woman's tragedy to fulfill your own ideology.... Now remember, mi5 have plants inside of alot of the mosques these days ...so sshhh mums the word" Ehh - I am wondering if they aren't looking at the UKIP membership list to find the attacker | |||
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"starting a political / racial debate on a sex website... Behave yourself. You are right - it's naughty - and I feel bad - but it's interesting to see how quickly people react. If I had gone on about sex and more sex - I never would have got this amount of responses. But a nasty racist attack and linking it to an outbreak of Little Englanderism ...and boy do people get defensive As a Remain voting Corbynite who has spent a big part of his life fighting racism. Can I point out that I'm not getting defensive. I just disagree with your agenda and the fact you'd use a dead baby to try and prove a very tenuous point " I disagree with you but you make a point | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() No we just haven't left and there are no plans in place to do so | |||
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"You don't think opting to make our own laws, control our own borders and immigration and choosing how we spend our taxes justify Brexit? The fall in our trade deficit, falling unemployment, trade deals already in the pipe line with the biggest economies and confidence growing daily don't justify leaving the EU? But some imagined connection to unrelated matters does? I just called your boss - and he agreed to my request to cut your wages by 15% for the same work. To make you more "competitive" and more :export oriented" Am sure you will be happy with that - after all that what a £ devaluation is? A drop in wages for the same work?! Trade deals - who with?Aus - we do £7bn of trade with them compared to £220bn with the EU. As for immigration - without that - the City crumbles as does the tech industry When we lose access to the single market - those that export to it will lose their jobs - while waiting for the difference between that £220bn and the £7bn I will point them in your direction. And we get more bigotry as this lady found out" You need to check you facts mate. We did over 510 billion in 2015. Less than half of that was to EU (the 220 you quote) Seriously mate stop trying to connect unrelated matter because of your particular bias and paranoia. | |||
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"wtf has this got to do with Brexit ? this stuff happend even when we was in the EU Because bigots were given a free ride to express their views... No actually kicking pregnant women in the stomach is still illegal despite the brexiters best efforts!.... So not quite a free ride nail-head...thread over Thankfully you aren't important -according to you - pregnant middle eastern lady has unborn baby kicked to death. And for you "there is nothing to see her". if this was a white woman I doubt you'd be saying anything As ever, brown lady gets baby killed - for you this is a non story. Charming! never said it's a none story did I sherlock ? I'm saying your Brexit point is total rubbish...we're out of the EU now and I'm glad, so suck it up buttercup ![]() I agree - and point out to people that in reality we will never leave gets you into trouble with Brexiters. And then pointing out that racist attacks have gone up provokes the usual " oh no they haven't" | |||
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"You don't think opting to make our own laws, control our own borders and immigration and choosing how we spend our taxes justify Brexit? The fall in our trade deficit, falling unemployment, trade deals already in the pipe line with the biggest economies and confidence growing daily don't justify leaving the EU? But some imagined connection to unrelated matters does? I just called your boss - and he agreed to my request to cut your wages by 15% for the same work. To make you more "competitive" and more :export oriented" Am sure you will be happy with that - after all that what a £ devaluation is? A drop in wages for the same work?! Trade deals - who with?Aus - we do £7bn of trade with them compared to £220bn with the EU. As for immigration - without that - the City crumbles as does the tech industry When we lose access to the single market - those that export to it will lose their jobs - while waiting for the difference between that £220bn and the £7bn I will point them in your direction. And we get more bigotry as this lady found out You need to check you facts mate. We did over 510 billion in 2015. Less than half of that was to EU (the 220 you quote) Seriously mate stop trying to connect unrelated matter because of your particular bias and paranoia. " ??? Have you lost all track of numbers? We do £7bn of trade with Aus and E220bn with the EU. 220 is bigger than 7. A lot bigger. And of course, the attack had nothing to do with Brexit. Of that you are totally sure...because...because... Someone will lose their jobs because of lack of access to the EU. They will get angry. Of course, you will tell them it isn't Brexit's fault...but the immigrants fault | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Cool I look forward to losing access to the single market - then all the job losses and then going to all the Brexiters as they queue for their dole money I mean when you lose access to 500m people on your door step - did you really think 24m people not the other side of the world was going to make a difference ... | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Unemployment is down since Brexit besides, less immigrants coming in should solve a lot of unemployment. | |||
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"Poor woman but it got ZERO to do with Brexit. Until I here a convicted criminal admit that Brexit motivated them to commit a racist attack, it bullshit. Any arsehole who would do that obviously isn't representative of Brexit. Brexit was reclaiming our default, historic, original status as a free, independent state. " . You see.... I'm going to have to disagree on that 0% thing. I think some people are "taken in" by the shit they read, and some shit they read is shit... Which gets me back to people beings cunts. You see we'd basically have to censor everything from the Qur'an down to brexit talk because frankly there's some shit in both of them "stories" that some people might misconstrue.... But I'm a liberal and I don't belive in banning shit, so although I'm seeing the problems caused by both these things....I think the answer is to get people to stop acting like dicks with any old shit they read! | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() . If your a smart cookie you'll figure a way round it. Night | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Ha. Love the ignorance. It is down because we devalued the currency ie we all got poorer Don't go to the nhs because it will be immigrants treating you...you will just have to wait in pain while they find a local Brit to treat you..of course you won't mind the pain..because you are a brexiter You do know that a drop in sterling causes inflation....don't worry you will soon enough | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Why should I care ...all I need is for my industry to get full access and hope the brexiters industries get cut off from the EU...serves them right | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() But britain cant support itself, as they have to soon start to work on the minimum wage helping the farmers in the fields, they need the migrants as they are hard workers. I cant see any brits doing them jobs. If the brits cant do it, they have to import, strawberries, potatoes and all sorts, the costs will be sky high. | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Exactly I want every brexiter to start picking potatoes straight away!!!!! Don't even bother going to the nhs!!!! | |||
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"So basically it's ok to assume all leave voters are racist because of the actions of one nutter? Let's call him an extremist leaver. You surely realise they are a tiny fringe who don't represent Brexit. They have misinterpreted the verses of Brexit and used them to justify there actions. Brexit is a movement of peace. " I hope you don't go to a nhs hospital You do know the doctors and nurses are immigrants!! Don't worry..you won't need the surgery...the pain will make you a better person Look out for the inflation nex year | |||
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"This is a terrible thing but stop using other peoples pain to stir up a forum argument. Well said ![]() Where are the numbers and did you live through the 70s? | |||
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"So basically it's ok to assume all leave voters are racist because of the actions of one nutter? Let's call him an extremist leaver. You surely realise they are a tiny fringe who don't represent Brexit. They have misinterpreted the verses of Brexit and used them to justify there actions. Brexit is a movement of peace. I hope you don't go to a nhs hospital You do know the doctors and nurses are immigrants!! Don't worry..you won't need the surgery...the pain will make you a better person Look out for the inflation nex year" The doctors and nurses who treat/treated me were/are predominantly from non EU countries. I'm not sure if capping extends to NHS staff,someone enlighten me. | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Yes, so they get used to it, before they trigger article 50 and nhs will have less staff too. | |||
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"Your mad I buy nothing but English strawberries. Seriously you have no clue. You did know that we were a country before 1973 (did rather well at it actually) ? With strawberries and everything ![]() That is right, but the culture have changed drastically over 30 years, nowadays they would rather play playstation and similar things. | |||
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"My parents are Italian. I guess you couldn't tell I'm second generation immigrant with me being without the obligatory chip on the shoulder, victim playing and sense of entitlement" As a brexiter , you play the victim well and whine like a true brexiter Blaming immigrants ! Just dont ever use a nhs hospital !, the doctors are immigrants and I know how you want to reduce their numbers Let's hope major employers in Aylesbury lose access To the single market and jobs losses ensue Hmm..which way do you think this thug voted? Brexit perhaps...taking his country back? | |||
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"Your mad I buy nothing but English strawberries. Seriously you have no clue. You did know that we were a country before 1973 (did rather well at it actually) ? With strawberries and everything ![]() Well you should start picking them ..as a true brexiter ...we should have you lot pick the strawberries instead of the immigrants..since you don't want immigrants to do their jobs | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() i would say about 70% are migrants, coming from, mexico, india, pakistan and poland, what you reckon? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 14/09/16 01:03:05]" Rod WHY does me being anti EU mean I can't now go to hospitals? Why would preferring that our government controls immigration mean I should not go to hospitals? Don't tell me the answers, have a word with yourself. Maybe a little cry. | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic!" UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..."" The world is not like that anymore. We will either have reciprocal agree with the eu or countries where they get free access to this country or a visa exemption system like the ESTA in the US which costs around 10 quid. Going anyway without is unusual we forget this because we hVe been in the eu so long and we can just go to lots of countries without a visa. | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." The world is not like that anymore. We will either have reciprocal agree with the eu or countries where they get free access to this country or a visa exemption system like the ESTA in the US which costs around 10 quid. Going anyway without is unusual we forget this because we hVe been in the eu so long and we can just go to lots of countries without a visa." I have been lucky enough to have worked in and holidayed in the USA and visited South Africa, Australia, Dhubai on holiday all since we joined the EEC / EC / EU. It was never a hassle just followed the rules. And people forget you can't actually fly to anywhere in the EU without a passport ... | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." The world is not like that anymore. We will either have reciprocal agree with the eu or countries where they get free access to this country or a visa exemption system like the ESTA in the US which costs around 10 quid. Going anyway without is unusual we forget this because we hVe been in the eu so long and we can just go to lots of countries without a visa. I have been lucky enough to have worked in and holidayed in the USA and visited South Africa, Australia, Dhubai on holiday all since we joined the EEC / EC / EU. It was never a hassle just followed the rules. And people forget you can't actually fly to anywhere in the EU without a passport ..." That's holidays - you're not talking about holidays, your post was advising us to pack up and move there - we won't be able to do that if Brexit means stopping other EU citizens doing the same over here! | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." The world is not like that anymore. We will either have reciprocal agree with the eu or countries where they get free access to this country or a visa exemption system like the ESTA in the US which costs around 10 quid. Going anyway without is unusual we forget this because we hVe been in the eu so long and we can just go to lots of countries without a visa. I have been lucky enough to have worked in and holidayed in the USA and visited South Africa, Australia, Dhubai on holiday all since we joined the EEC / EC / EU. It was never a hassle just followed the rules. And people forget you can't actually fly to anywhere in the EU without a passport ... That's holidays - you're not talking about holidays, your post was advising us to pack up and move there - we won't be able to do that if Brexit means stopping other EU citizens doing the same over here!" Why Not it is just as easy to work & live in EU as it is in usa if your job warrants your employers need for you, and your employer will take care of visa and all work requirements | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." Welcomed to holiday but not to set up camp there, same as Eastern Europeans won't be welcomed to live and work here. I remember as a teenager the sense of excitement I felt when it filtered down to me that I could now live and work in any EU member state. An entitlement my teenaged daughter has grown up enjoying, and taken for granted. As a travel and tourism student it was her aim to live and work abroad, and she is devastated she will be losing that when we leave...if we do" I am happy you, and especially your daughter, are younger than some of us who recall family members working in foreign countries before we joined the EEC / EC / EU. There was a life and a functioning world before the EEC... And whatever arrangements are made it will be by mutual agreement. NOT as you seem to indicate by us creating anything unilaterally. What WILL happen is that we will no longer be the open market for any out of work Romanian labourer while having to create barriers to skilled Canadians to control numbers. In future we will decide what skills we need, how many we can support in health, education and housing and then allow in the best people from wherever they live. Not just because they have 'European Union' on their passports. | |||
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"Given the Thread is about 'Brexit Britain' I hope people are watching a certain Herr Juncker giving a Presidential 'State of the Union' address to the EU Parliament. And that he has confirmed what was denied by the Remonaers: The EU will be setting up an EU military headquarters. The European monstrosity marches on! Juncker also threatens the UK that we MUST have 'Freedom of Movement' if we want access to the EU Single Market. Well Juncker may be getting a letter from the WTO. If it is a condition for one non-member then it is a condition for all non-members. I can see the USA 'having a word' as well... If anyone has any doubts about leaving this corrupt ambitious but dysfunctional edifice to political vanity then this must surely make them more reassured now. Personally I could not stomach the best military in the world being commanded by the likes of bloody Juncker and I can happily do without a Mercedes or VW if that is the price of our Sovereignty. Others will disagree no doubt. ![]() not often I agree with you, but I guess I do here, ahhh, phew, yes, found one bit to disagree on, I like my Merc even though its only 3 months old and has an engine fuel connection recall ![]() | |||
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"Given the Thread is about 'Brexit Britain' I hope people are watching a certain Herr Juncker giving a Presidential 'State of the Union' address to the EU Parliament. And that he has confirmed what was denied by the Remonaers: The EU will be setting up an EU military headquarters. The European monstrosity marches on! Juncker also threatens the UK that we MUST have 'Freedom of Movement' if we want access to the EU Single Market. Well Juncker may be getting a letter from the WTO. If it is a condition for one non-member then it is a condition for all non-members. I can see the USA 'having a word' as well... If anyone has any doubts about leaving this corrupt ambitious but dysfunctional edifice to political vanity then this must surely make them more reassured now. Personally I could not stomach the best military in the world being commanded by the likes of bloody Juncker and I can happily do without a Mercedes or VW if that is the price of our Sovereignty. Others will disagree no doubt. ![]() ![]() Outside of Scottish matters we agree more often than not .. ![]() | |||
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"Given the Thread is about 'Brexit Britain' I hope people are watching a certain Herr Juncker giving a Presidential 'State of the Union' address to the EU Parliament. And that he has confirmed what was denied by the Remonaers: The EU will be setting up an EU military headquarters. The European monstrosity marches on! Juncker also threatens the UK that we MUST have 'Freedom of Movement' if we want access to the EU Single Market. Well Juncker may be getting a letter from the WTO. If it is a condition for one non-member then it is a condition for all non-members. I can see the USA 'having a word' as well... If anyone has any doubts about leaving this corrupt ambitious but dysfunctional edifice to political vanity then this must surely make them more reassured now. Personally I could not stomach the best military in the world being commanded by the likes of bloody Juncker and I can happily do without a Mercedes or VW if that is the price of our Sovereignty. Others will disagree no doubt. ![]() ![]() ![]() perhaps ![]() | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Not the sharpest tool in the box are you OP. That 500m people in the EU market includes the UK population. The UK population is around 70 million people so when we leave the EU will have a market of 430 million, not the 500 million you seem so sure about. | |||
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"starting a political / racial debate on a sex website... Behave yourself. You are right - it's naughty - and I feel bad - but it's interesting to see how quickly people react. If I had gone on about sex and more sex - I never would have got this amount of responses. But a nasty racist attack and linking it to an outbreak of Little Englanderism ...and boy do people get defensive As a Remain voting Corbynite who has spent a big part of his life fighting racism. Can I point out that I'm not getting defensive. I just disagree with your agenda and the fact you'd use a dead baby to try and prove a very tenuous point " A Remain voting Corbynite. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Talk about being in denial doesnt Juncker realise that its not quite a political state YET,if he wanted more eu member states to demand votes to leave he couldnt do a better job than saying we are having an eu army,at least if he said we are going all out for a single super state it would be honest, the man is a megalomaniac and people say boris is a loose canon" I prefer to call him Jean Claude D*unker. ![]() | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() Wow a Brexiter who can do maths - perhaps ou would like to like to predict where inflation will be next year - after the devaluation? the answer is higher... Don't worry, your wages will be the same and you will be poorer. Hopefully the biz you are in won't get access to the Eu - so you suffer the consequences of your actions | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." Welcomed to holiday but not to set up camp there, same as Eastern Europeans won't be welcomed to live and work here. I remember as a teenager the sense of excitement I felt when it filtered down to me that I could now live and work in any EU member state. An entitlement my teenaged daughter has grown up enjoying, and taken for granted. As a travel and tourism student it was her aim to live and work abroad, and she is devastated she will be losing that when we leave...if we do I am happy you, and especially your daughter, are younger than some of us who recall family members working in foreign countries before we joined the EEC / EC / EU. There was a life and a functioning world before the EEC... And whatever arrangements are made it will be by mutual agreement. NOT as you seem to indicate by us creating anything unilaterally. What WILL happen is that we will no longer be the open market for any out of work Romanian labourer while having to create barriers to skilled Canadians to control numbers. In future we will decide what skills we need, how many we can support in health, education and housing and then allow in the best people from wherever they live. Not just because they have 'European Union' on their passports." Ha - what rubbish - there will be little change to the immigration unless the Brexiters want to get off the fat bums and do the crop picking Always, the same - blame the immigrant for picking the food and working as nurses in the NHS. Don't worry, you will find out when there aren't enough doctors to staff the NHS! | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." The world is not like that anymore. We will either have reciprocal agree with the eu or countries where they get free access to this country or a visa exemption system like the ESTA in the US which costs around 10 quid. Going anyway without is unusual we forget this because we hVe been in the eu so long and we can just go to lots of countries without a visa. I have been lucky enough to have worked in and holidayed in the USA and visited South Africa, Australia, Dhubai on holiday all since we joined the EEC / EC / EU. It was never a hassle just followed the rules. And people forget you can't actually fly to anywhere in the EU without a passport ... That's holidays - you're not talking about holidays, your post was advising us to pack up and move there - we won't be able to do that if Brexit means stopping other EU citizens doing the same over here! Why Not it is just as easy to work & live in EU as it is in usa if your job warrants your employers need for you, and your employer will take care of visa and all work requirements I love the Brexit naivety - having lived and worked in the Us - the make it difficult but not impossible for UK and EU citizens to work there. Likewise the EU will do the same to UK citizens who want to work in the EU. Difficult not impossible. I love little Englanders - look forward to them turning up at hospital and finding no staff there.. " | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." Welcomed to holiday but not to set up camp there, same as Eastern Europeans won't be welcomed to live and work here. I remember as a teenager the sense of excitement I felt when it filtered down to me that I could now live and work in any EU member state. An entitlement my teenaged daughter has grown up enjoying, and taken for granted. As a travel and tourism student it was her aim to live and work abroad, and she is devastated she will be losing that when we leave...if we do" I feels sad for your daughter. The Brexiters are mean spirited lazy lot who don't travel and it would never occur to them to work abroad. There are so dim - who will staff the NHS but immigrants! Wait until the waiting lists rise! | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." The world is not like that anymore. We will either have reciprocal agree with the eu or countries where they get free access to this country or a visa exemption system like the ESTA in the US which costs around 10 quid. Going anyway without is unusual we forget this because we hVe been in the eu so long and we can just go to lots of countries without a visa. I have been lucky enough to have worked in and holidayed in the USA and visited South Africa, Australia, Dhubai on holiday all since we joined the EEC / EC / EU. It was never a hassle just followed the rules. And people forget you can't actually fly to anywhere in the EU without a passport ..." Well said - it always the old Brexit fart's who have spoiled it for the rest of us | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..."" Drivel - I look forward to the day you can't get a job in the EU because they reserve it for Eu citizens! | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 14/09/16 01:03:05] Rod WHY does me being anti EU mean I can't now go to hospitals? Why would preferring that our government controls immigration mean I should not go to hospitals? Don't tell me the answers, have a word with yourself. Maybe a little cry. " Clearly you have never been to a hospital - the doctors and nurses are mostly immigrants. Don't you worry, next time you go, prepare for a long long wait...I mean who else will work long hours in a NHS hospital but EU immigrants.... You also have inflation to look forward to next year because of the devaluation. I love Brexiters - such children | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." Welcomed to holiday but not to set up camp there, same as Eastern Europeans won't be welcomed to live and work here. I remember as a teenager the sense of excitement I felt when it filtered down to me that I could now live and work in any EU member state. An entitlement my teenaged daughter has grown up enjoying, and taken for granted. As a travel and tourism student it was her aim to live and work abroad, and she is devastated she will be losing that when we leave...if we do I feels sad for your daughter. The Brexiters are mean spirited lazy lot who don't travel and it would never occur to them to work abroad. There are so dim - who will staff the NHS but immigrants! Wait until the waiting lists rise!" Hate to tell you this but people moved and worked to most eu countries well before free movement existed and well before the eu even existedwe will just revert to the old system and fill in some paperwork as for the nhs even if we went to australian style system doctors and nurses would be high on the list of essential so not much will change especially as most of the nurses come from the phillipines and other non eu countries anyway | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 14/09/16 01:03:05] Rod WHY does me being anti EU mean I can't now go to hospitals? Why would preferring that our government controls immigration mean I should not go to hospitals? Don't tell me the answers, have a word with yourself. Maybe a little cry. Clearly you have never been to a hospital - the doctors and nurses are mostly immigrants. Don't you worry, next time you go, prepare for a long long wait...I mean who else will work long hours in a NHS hospital but EU immigrants.... You also have inflation to look forward to next year because of the devaluation. I love Brexiters - such children You obviously have a lot of hospital experience. When did they let you out?" Oh - is that it?! Google inflation - it's coming to a Brexit town near you courtesy of Gove and the Brexiters | |||
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"I always say if people don't like how the UK is developing post the EU Referendum they are perfectly free to leave and move to one of the 27 EU countries. We can't though if we're going to lose our freedom of movement - it's two way traffic! UK citizens were happily moving about Europe before we joined the EEC in 1973 because they had a thing called a passport. I take it you have one of those? You just showed how much the EU has brainwashed generations into their way of thinking that there is nothing without the EU and distorted their views of the world. With a passport you can go anywhere you choose. Just remember "When in Rome ..." Welcomed to holiday but not to set up camp there, same as Eastern Europeans won't be welcomed to live and work here. I remember as a teenager the sense of excitement I felt when it filtered down to me that I could now live and work in any EU member state. An entitlement my teenaged daughter has grown up enjoying, and taken for granted. As a travel and tourism student it was her aim to live and work abroad, and she is devastated she will be losing that when we leave...if we do I feels sad for your daughter. The Brexiters are mean spirited lazy lot who don't travel and it would never occur to them to work abroad. There are so dim - who will staff the NHS but immigrants! Wait until the waiting lists rise! Hate to tell you this but people moved and worked to most eu countries well before free movement existed and well before the eu even existedwe will just revert to the old system and fill in some paperwork as for the nhs even if we went to australian style system doctors and nurses would be high on the list of essential so not much will change especially as most of the nurses come from the phillipines and other non eu countries anyway" Except we will have to pay more to persuade them to come - when we have all these people on our doorstep who can do the work. I look forward to to the Brexiters picking the strawberries.... | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() To be fair the 500m/430m was a pretty simple mathematical calculation that you seemed incapable of comprehending, lol. And this devaluation of the pound you keep banging on about, would that be the same devaluation that has given a big boost to the UK tourism industry since Brexit and the same devaluation that has given a massive boost to UK exports. In fact the UK manufacturing industry has just seen the biggest month on month jump in growth for August for the last 25 years, thanks to the lower value of the pound and added to that the devaluation of the pound has also given the UK services industry a big boost in the month of August. ![]() | |||
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"Given the Thread is about 'Brexit Britain' I hope people are watching a certain Herr Juncker giving a Presidential 'State of the Union' address to the EU Parliament. And that he has confirmed what was denied by the Remonaers: The EU will be setting up an EU military headquarters. The European monstrosity marches on! Juncker also threatens the UK that we MUST have 'Freedom of Movement' if we want access to the EU Single Market. Well Juncker may be getting a letter from the WTO. If it is a condition for one non-member then it is a condition for all non-members. I can see the USA 'having a word' as well... If anyone has any doubts about leaving this corrupt ambitious but dysfunctional edifice to political vanity then this must surely make them more reassured now. Personally I could not stomach the best military in the world being commanded by the likes of bloody Juncker and I can happily do without a Mercedes or VW if that is the price of our Sovereignty. Others will disagree no doubt. ![]() That will be a single market of 430 million once the UK has left the EU remember. ![]() | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() ![]() What drivel - if that is your logic you should be happy that I have talked to your boss and got a pay cut for you of 15% - to make you more "competitive" and give your company " big boost". You work same hours but get 15% less..... Next week - I will get you another pay cut of another 15% - since you like your pay getting cut I mean a 15% pay cut is a a lot like devaluation! Which you like Google inflation - it's coming to you soon! I love Brexiters talking economics - it's like putting monkeys in stakes. - it means nothing to them but it's fun for the rest of us. | |||
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"Given the Thread is about 'Brexit Britain' I hope people are watching a certain Herr Juncker giving a Presidential 'State of the Union' address to the EU Parliament. And that he has confirmed what was denied by the Remonaers: The EU will be setting up an EU military headquarters. The European monstrosity marches on! Juncker also threatens the UK that we MUST have 'Freedom of Movement' if we want access to the EU Single Market. Well Juncker may be getting a letter from the WTO. If it is a condition for one non-member then it is a condition for all non-members. I can see the USA 'having a word' as well... If anyone has any doubts about leaving this corrupt ambitious but dysfunctional edifice to political vanity then this must surely make them more reassured now. Personally I could not stomach the best military in the world being commanded by the likes of bloody Juncker and I can happily do without a Mercedes or VW if that is the price of our Sovereignty. Others will disagree no doubt. ![]() ![]() Ha - I look forward to you suffering from inflation next year! Good luck with the pay rise! Not! As for Greece and Spain - look at Ireland - the bounced back! Just like Greece and Spain are doing. Fancy that! Don't be shy to google inflation and I will be sure to point those who lose their jobs because their firms lose access to single market to you. | |||
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"Rod seriously, why stay? Why not get yourself into Europe before it's too late. Serious question, why stay? You regard the majority of the British voting public as stupid, ignorant, racist, bigoted and dishonest. You are convinced the country is ruined and will collapse. So... WHY you still here???" Because we ain't leaving the eu!!! London will get all the advantages of staying and the other parts of the uk will suffer because they voted to leave... Someone will suffer from leaving ....so long as it's the brexiters ....I am fine with that!!! | |||
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"Welcome to the dark side!!! No not that dark side, I mean welcome to the politics forum ![]() ![]() Oh dear you just don't understand what a devaluation will do....poor you...what until inflation bites...but you voted for it...so chin up and you suffer for it...no whining from you! | |||
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"Rod seriously, why stay? Why not get yourself into Europe before it's too late. Serious question, why stay? You regard the majority of the British voting public as stupid, ignorant, racist, bigoted and dishonest. You are convinced the country is ruined and will collapse. So... WHY you still here??? Because we ain't leaving the eu!!! London will get all the advantages of staying and the other parts of the uk will suffer because they voted to leave... Someone will suffer from leaving ....so long as it's the brexiters ....I am fine with that!!!" Who's making all that happen Rod? Santa? Cos you wrote to him? | |||
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"Rod seriously, why stay? Why not get yourself into Europe before it's too late. Serious question, why stay? You regard the majority of the British voting public as stupid, ignorant, racist, bigoted and dishonest. You are convinced the country is ruined and will collapse. So... WHY you still here??? Because we ain't leaving the eu!!! London will get all the advantages of staying and the other parts of the uk will suffer because they voted to leave... Someone will suffer from leaving ....so long as it's the brexiters ....I am fine with that!!! Who's making all that happen Rod? Santa? Cos you wrote to him?" Maybe he doesn't want to go to live in Spain or Greece because of the sky high unemployment there and he won't be able to get a job? Maybe he doesn't want to go to live and work in Romania or Bulgaria because wages there are less than half of the minimum wage here in the UK? | |||
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"Rod seriously, why stay? Why not get yourself into Europe before it's too late. Serious question, why stay? You regard the majority of the British voting public as stupid, ignorant, racist, bigoted and dishonest. You are convinced the country is ruined and will collapse. So... WHY you still here??? Because we ain't leaving the eu!!! London will get all the advantages of staying and the other parts of the uk will suffer because they voted to leave... Someone will suffer from leaving ....so long as it's the brexiters ....I am fine with that!!! Who's making all that happen Rod? Santa? Cos you wrote to him? Maybe he doesn't want to go to live in Spain or Greece because of the sky high unemployment there and he won't be able to get a job? Maybe he doesn't want to go to live and work in Romania or Bulgaria because wages there are less than half of the minimum wage here in the UK? " Maybe. I say Germany. Nice safe Germany who biggest export customer is shopping around now. | |||
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"Rod seriously, why stay? Why not get yourself into Europe before it's too late. Serious question, why stay? You regard the majority of the British voting public as stupid, ignorant, racist, bigoted and dishonest. You are convinced the country is ruined and will collapse. So... WHY you still here??? Because we ain't leaving the eu!!! London will get all the advantages of staying and the other parts of the uk will suffer because they voted to leave... Someone will suffer from leaving ....so long as it's the brexiters ....I am fine with that!!!" You do realise this country is so londocentric that as long as london does well the country does well | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - " maybe she is losing her religion ![]() | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - maybe she is losing her religion ![]() Oh great, now I've got R.E.M. Stuck in my head ![]() | |||
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"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/13/pregnant-woman-lost-her-baby-after-being-kicked--in-the-stomach/ funny how the article doesn't mention the lady's religion - maybe she is losing her religion ![]() ![]() lol, me too ![]() ![]() | |||
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"OP you started this thread on the basis of a horible attack on a woman. You complained her religion wasn't mentioned and it was 2nd page news (incorrect, but anyway). Since then you have just turned it into a brexit debate, and yourself pushed this womans misery onto the second page. Not nice politics." It wasn't nice what happened to her. Yet that you ignore. Race attacks have gone up since Brexit. Yet that you ignore. Frankly that is "not nice" | |||
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"Rod seriously, why stay? Why not get yourself into Europe before it's too late. Serious question, why stay? You regard the majority of the British voting public as stupid, ignorant, racist, bigoted and dishonest. You are convinced the country is ruined and will collapse. So... WHY you still here??? Because we ain't leaving the eu!!! London will get all the advantages of staying and the other parts of the uk will suffer because they voted to leave... Someone will suffer from leaving ....so long as it's the brexiters ....I am fine with that!!! Who's making all that happen Rod? Santa? Cos you wrote to him? Maybe he doesn't want to go to live in Spain or Greece because of the sky high unemployment there and he won't be able to get a job? Maybe he doesn't want to go to live and work in Romania or Bulgaria because wages there are less than half of the minimum wage here in the UK? " I talked to you boss, and we reduced your wages. To make you more "competitive". It's like a devaluation! When we lose access to the single market, hopefully your industry will lose access as well. Perhaps your wages will go down further, or you will lose your job. But as you say, you shouldn't worry, we can start exporting to Australia on the other side of the planet! Chin up, I say, You voted for brexit, you should take the consequences. I mean if you think it's a good idea, you should take the rough with the smooth. | |||
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"OP you started this thread on the basis of a horible attack on a woman. You complained her religion wasn't mentioned and it was 2nd page news (incorrect, but anyway). Since then you have just turned it into a brexit debate, and yourself pushed this womans misery onto the second page. Not nice politics. It wasn't nice what happened to her. Yet that you ignore. Race attacks have gone up since Brexit. Yet that you ignore. Frankly that is "not nice"" I've not ignored it, I think it's disgusting. Ive said that 3-4 times, yet you are happy to insult me like that. You've ignored her in your last dozen posts, as you quickly twisted it to a brexit thing. Time for you to look in the mirror. I have no time for your ridiculous attitude. | |||
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