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"To be fair,........I expected this thread to be about a completely different BBC!! "  ha nice one  | |||
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"We get it HornyAs, no one knows anything about Brexit other than you. You are the only one who knows what is happening. We should all listen to you instead of anyone else, especially anyone who has has any training or experience in their relevant fields "Thank you for the personal crap. How about commenting on the OP? | |||
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"To be fair,........I expected this thread to be about a completely different BBC!! " I must try harder ..  | |||
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"We get it HornyAs, no one knows anything about Brexit other than you. You are the only one who knows what is happening. We should all listen to you instead of anyone else, especially anyone who has has any training or experience in their relevant fields "The debate will end when the brier scores are published | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines?" Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" " There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! " There's not actually a lot of difference between the far right and far left to be fair. Neither give a shit about private property and that's about as fundamental as it gets. | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! There's not actually a lot of difference between the far right and far left to be fair. Neither give a shit about private property and that's about as fundamental as it gets. " One of the Truest posts I've ever seen ! | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! " True ! But also Thier are plenty who wo would think Stalin wasn't left Wing Enough ! Personally I think Hitler and Stalin were too Very Bad Peas in the same Pod !!! | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! " Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are | |||
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"I do hope everyone is equally as annoyed by the right-wing bias displayed by most of the written press in this country." If it's a private newspaper it can do what it likes. I couldn't care less what the Guardian or Daily Fail write, you know what you're getting when you buy the paper. Tax funded media should be neutral though. | |||
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"I've also never heard the BBC acknowledge that Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein were both left wing socialists too" . What you mean like the Chinese government, yeah there murdering scumbags too but wait there's Trudeau in Canada and half the EU who are left wing and well not murdering citizens, come to think of it Reagan and thatcher were right wing and didn't really murder their citizens either, well maybe not thatcher that's a bad example ha... But you get the idea. It's entirely possible to be either left or right wing and not be a scumbag but scumbags often come in left wing and right varieties | |||
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"I've also never heard the BBC acknowledge that Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein were both left wing socialists too. What you mean like the Chinese government, yeah there murdering scumbags too but wait there's Trudeau in Canada and half the EU who are left wing and well not murdering citizens, come to think of it Reagan and thatcher were right wing and didn't really murder their citizens either, well maybe not thatcher that's a bad example ha... But you get the idea. It's entirely possible to be either left or right wing and not be a scumbag but scumbags often come in left wing and right varieties" Of course it's a lot easier to be a murdering scumbag when you have huge state apparatus to facilitate it. Statistically speaking, more people have been murdered by their own governments than war, plague or anything else. | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are"  | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are "What's ?
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for? "As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes. | |||
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"I think the good pastors little statement might shed some light... . . First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist... Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist. . . Now being unbiased I think that doesn't sound like a man describing errr socialists "Its impossible to have capitalism without private property (i.e capital). Assuming capitalists are right wing, then as soon as the state thinks it has the right to sieze private property without compensation then it fails to be right wing. | |||
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"I think we all accept that the BBC is, shall we say, more sympathetic to the Left Wing view of the world. Given it is staffed by ex Labour Party and Guardian people that isn't surprising. But to me that isn't as bad as the continual drip drip of negativity post the EU vote. The BBC was the major pedlar of all things 'Project Fear' as it accorded with their left / Socialist / EU is great bias. OK to some extent. But we are now seeing a deliberate distortion of factual reporting. Two examples today. Headline 1: "Bosses more cautious on jobs after Brexit, survey finds" And during a very long piece quoting 'experts' (like IHS Markit again) we got: " Britain was entering a new phase of prolonged economic uncertainty following the referendum on EU membership." and then we get the real point of the piece: "we urge the government to prioritise maintaining the free movement of people across the EU during its negotiations." So the BBC finds a survey of 2,100 businesses and uses it to peddle the 'Free Movement' crap that the British people rejected. And right at the bottom of the piece it says: "A total of 8% of employers expect to increase staff numbers, 4% forecast a decrease and 87% anticipate no change." Now forgive my being simple but those numbers tell me a different story than that peddled by the BBC Business Correspondent. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37341094 Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation?" Yes I agree we are entitled to accurate unbiased news from a taxpayer funded organisation.....but it kind of represents much of what is wrong with the public sector x | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for?
As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes. "then you will know that Hitler was a left wing socialist who used the power of the state machine to try to further his aims. As all left wingers will do eventually or aim to do given the chance | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for?
As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes.
then you will know that Hitler was a left wing socialist who used the power of the state machine to try to further his aims.
As all left wingers will do eventually or aim to do given the chance"Well someone just extended their gulag sentence come the revolution... | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for?
As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes.
then you will know that Hitler was a left wing socialist who used the power of the state machine to try to further his aims.
As all left wingers will do eventually or aim to do given the chance
Well someone just extended their gulag sentence come the revolution... "* re-education camp, not gulag | |||
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"I think the good pastors little statement might shed some light... . . First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist... Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist. . . Now being unbiased I think that doesn't sound like a man describing errr socialists
Its impossible to have capitalism without private property (i.e capital). Assuming capitalists are right wing, then as soon as the state thinks it has the right to sieze private property without compensation then it fails to be right wing. "No, it fails to be capitalism, but is still right wing. | |||
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"I think the good pastors little statement might shed some light... . . First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist... Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist. . . Now being unbiased I think that doesn't sound like a man describing errr socialists
Its impossible to have capitalism without private property (i.e capital). Assuming capitalists are right wing, then as soon as the state thinks it has the right to sieze private property without compensation then it fails to be right wing.
No, it fails to be capitalism, but is still right wing. "So if it isn't capitalism then what exactly is distinguishing it from the left? | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for?
As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes.
then you will know that Hitler was a left wing socialist who used the power of the state machine to try to further his aims.
As all left wingers will do eventually or aim to do given the chance". So general Pinochet was left wing? Idi Amin who was backed by the British, Russians and Americans must have defo been left wing | |||
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"I think the good pastors little statement might shed some light... . . First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist... Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist. . . Now being unbiased I think that doesn't sound like a man describing errr socialists "Or the Priest, the King and the Socialist who came across a starving man. The Priest told him the tale of the loaves and the fishes. The King encouraged him to work hard, grow his own food and build a house for himself. The Socialist said nothing...he was too busy taking notes  | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for?
As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes.
then you will know that Hitler was a left wing socialist who used the power of the state machine to try to further his aims.
As all left wingers will do eventually or aim to do given the chance"Hitler was a Fascist not a socialist; Fascism was based on a perversion of socialism coupled with State Corporatism and Nationalism; in essence it is a Totalitarian control based ideology. Try reading Socialist in Nazi as you may read Democratic in Republic of Congo or German Republic. It is where far right and far left meet. End of ideology analysis. | |||
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"I must say CandM4U, you surprise me nearly everyday. " In what way? Maybe you could tell us what the ideology of Hitler was then and why it wasn't left wing? | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! Hitler was too left wing! He tried to create a socialist state for Germans and railled against capitalism! You really don't understand what you are
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Do you know what the Nazi party stands for?
As in what their ideology was, or what their name meant? In both instances, the answer is yes.
then you will know that Hitler was a left wing socialist who used the power of the state machine to try to further his aims.
As all left wingers will do eventually or aim to do given the chance
Hitler was a Fascist not a socialist; Fascism was based on a perversion of socialism coupled with State Corporatism and Nationalism; in essence it is a Totalitarian control based ideology. Try reading Socialist in Nazi as you may read Democratic in Republic of Congo or German Republic. It is where far right and far left meet. End of ideology analysis."you are right, the point I was trying to make was that Hitler was too left wing | |||
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" in essence it is a Totalitarian control based ideology. ." ... Or a direct shoe in for religion replacement | |||
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"A perversion of socialism is still socialism even if you call it fascism" . Fascism is the right wing you Wally.... Capitalism is used by capitalists and everybody was a CAPITALIST even dear old uncle Joe | |||
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"Back to the thread. There's a saying that sums it up 'believe 10% of what you hear and 100% of what you see' Or in other words, for the dim witted (mentioning no names) the media all lie and unless you physically see or experience it it may not be true. It also means all reports or views are merely opinions until its happened." . I saw dynamo walk down a building and across the Thames.... I'm only 99.9999% it's bollocks. | |||
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"I once had a debate with a very nice chap who insisted they were atheists as well.... And despite me telling him that Hitler was very much religious, despite me pointing out that every German army, police and officer wore a belt with gott mit uns written on it and despite me pointing out the Fuehrer's personal pledge which the Nazi party chose themselves of,i swear to god this sacred oath and I even took him through the many many cases of Nazi obsession with religious artifacts.... He still maintained they were atheists!" Religion is that area where you come out with the most ridiculous statements because you can't hide your contempt for it. It is true that old Adolf liked to use religion to support his political ideas. Just like Osama Bin Laden did. However you willfully ignore the fact that religious prisoners in the concentration camp had their own badge to identify them (i.e because there were so many of them in there). From memory of my visit to the camp, there were 6 categories in total. Jews (obviously), woofters, gypsies, political opponents, religious people and one other that escapes me. The fact that his regime murdered enough people precisely because they were religious should make you question whether he was really a man of faith... if you could try and remain objective about the subject. Even fecking Henry the 8th didn't write a book a drivel and insist the church had to proudly display it next to the bible! | |||
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"The BBC already got exposed for their biased reporting during the Scottish independence referendum. I really wasn't surprised by the crap they came out with during the EU referendum and the subsequent crap they have been coming out with since the result of the referendum. " Yes, agreed, but it is "quality" crap, which after all, we do all pay for | |||
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"A perversion of socialism is still socialism even if you call it fascism. Fascism is the right wing you Wally.... Capitalism is used by capitalists and everybody was a CAPITALIST even dear old uncle Joe" Ffs, Fascism is born in and out of Socialism you wally  | |||
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"A perversion of socialism is still socialism even if you call it fascism. Fascism is the right wing you Wally.... Capitalism is used by capitalists and everybody was a CAPITALIST even dear old uncle Joe" I must have missed the Soviet union stock market? | |||
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"In fact if memory serves me right wasn't Franco a Tory?, in fact wasn't he a monarchist Tory, backed if not mistaken by the Nazis and Mussolini....I just can't remember who the other side were in the Spanish civil war... Your the expert, remind me again" Yes he was a Tory, a totalitarian dictator and a twat but not a fascist. He manipulated the Falange and the Monarchists to defeat Communism in Spain. He accepted help from Italy and Germany to do this yes but that help was given in the hope that he would join their side in WW2, which he refused to do. He was only interested in Spain and eventually returned the country to democracy. Now I am not defending the things he did but had the communists (fascists basically) taken over Spain then things would have turned out a lot worse | |||
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"In fact if memory serves me right wasn't Franco a Tory?, in fact wasn't he a monarchist Tory, backed if not mistaken by the Nazis and Mussolini....I just can't remember who the other side were in the Spanish civil war... Your the expert, remind me again Yes he was a Tory, a totalitarian dictator and a twat but not a fascist. He manipulated the Falange and the Monarchists to defeat Communism in Spain. He accepted help from Italy and Germany to do this yes but that help was given in the hope that he would join their side in WW2, which he refused to do. He was only interested in Spain and eventually returned the country to democracy. Now I am not defending the things he did but had the communists (fascists basically) taken over Spain then things would have turned out a lot worse" . If you look up totalitarian dictator, you'll see the word fascist used next to it... I like the way you say he returned democracy. Lol what 50 years later and he didn't anyway it was king Carlos who he put back on the throne that brought in the new constitution and democracy... Franco just oversaw sending his people to concentration camps for thirty years... Or gulags as you like to say. The only thing that kept him in power was the shameful west who fucking sucked up to him because he hated the communists who were the new enemy, yeah your a fascist cunt who's murdering your own citizens but hey join NATO.... Because I real enemy is the extreme left over there.... Not the extreme right who we've just let join us | |||
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"Why all the reporting about Corbyns useless leadership (which I have say is true) and plotting against him then? Are we to expect the reporters reporting this to be sacked because they're going against official bias guidelines? Yes, the looney left will come on here swearing that BBC has a right wing bias. But BBC is definitely left wing. Every week there's a thought piece article about how fucking great life in Cuba is or "the softer side of Stalin" There are some on here that would complain about Hitler being too left wing though! There's not actually a lot of difference between the far right and far left to be fair. Neither give a shit about private property and that's about as fundamental as it gets. " You are so right, as in correct! Both left and right wing extremists demonstrate anti democratic behaviour. Neither tolerate discussion of anything apart from their own sacrosanct beliefs. | |||
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"I once had a debate with a very nice chap who insisted they were atheists as well.... And despite me telling him that Hitler was very much religious, despite me pointing out that every German army, police and officer wore a belt with gott mit uns written on it and despite me pointing out the Fuehrer's personal pledge which the Nazi party chose themselves of,i swear to god this sacred oath and I even took him through the many many cases of Nazi obsession with religious artifacts.... He still maintained they were atheists! Religion is that area where you come out with the most ridiculous statements because you can't hide your contempt for it. It is true that old Adolf liked to use religion to support his political ideas. Just like Osama Bin Laden did. However you willfully ignore the fact that religious prisoners in the concentration camp had their own badge to identify them (i.e because there were so many of them in there). From memory of my visit to the camp, there were 6 categories in total. Jews (obviously), woofters, gypsies, political opponents, religious people and one other that escapes me. The fact that his regime murdered enough people precisely because they were religious should make you question whether he was really a man of faith... if you could try and remain objective about the subject. Even fecking Henry the 8th didn't write a book a drivel and insist the church had to proudly display it next to the bible! " . You couldn't get more of a man of faith and belief than Oliver Cromwell....I suggest you have a good look at his actions. Now if you want to follow Jesus's preachings I'll happily call you religious, but I don't see many Christians doing it... In fact anybody accruing wealth isn't following the teachings are they?.. So yes Adolf fits perfectly into what could be called a religious person but never an atheist.... No atheist would write their own oath starting with I swear to almighty God?. | |||
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"In fact if memory serves me right wasn't Franco a Tory?, in fact wasn't he a monarchist Tory, backed if not mistaken by the Nazis and Mussolini....I just can't remember who the other side were in the Spanish civil war... Your the expert, remind me again Yes he was a Tory, a totalitarian dictator and a twat but not a fascist. He manipulated the Falange and the Monarchists to defeat Communism in Spain. He accepted help from Italy and Germany to do this yes but that help was given in the hope that he would join their side in WW2, which he refused to do. He was only interested in Spain and eventually returned the country to democracy. Now I am not defending the things he did but had the communists (fascists basically) taken over Spain then things would have turned out a lot worse. If you look up totalitarian dictator, you'll see the word fascist used next to it... I like the way you say he returned democracy. Lol what 50 years later and he didn't anyway it was king Carlos who he put back on the throne that brought in the new constitution and democracy... Franco just oversaw sending his people to concentration camps for thirty years... Or gulags as you like to say. The only thing that kept him in power was the shameful west who fucking sucked up to him because he hated the communists who were the new enemy, yeah your a fascist cunt who's murdering your own citizens but hey join NATO.... Because I real enemy is the extreme left over there.... Not the extreme right who we've just let join us "No you won't. Totalitarianism is about control which can cover a wide spectrum. Fascism implies a specific political ideology that emphasises state ideology above all things, the welfare of the state is primary whereas the welfare/rights of individuals are secondary or not considered at all. Remind you of anywhere? | |||
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"I once had a debate with a very nice chap who insisted they were atheists as well.... And despite me telling him that Hitler was very much religious, despite me pointing out that every German army, police and officer wore a belt with gott mit uns written on it and despite me pointing out the Fuehrer's personal pledge which the Nazi party chose themselves of,i swear to god this sacred oath and I even took him through the many many cases of Nazi obsession with religious artifacts.... He still maintained they were atheists! Religion is that area where you come out with the most ridiculous statements because you can't hide your contempt for it. It is true that old Adolf liked to use religion to support his political ideas. Just like Osama Bin Laden did. However you willfully ignore the fact that religious prisoners in the concentration camp had their own badge to identify them (i.e because there were so many of them in there). From memory of my visit to the camp, there were 6 categories in total. Jews (obviously), woofters, gypsies, political opponents, religious people and one other that escapes me. The fact that his regime murdered enough people precisely because they were religious should make you question whether he was really a man of faith... if you could try and remain objective about the subject. Even fecking Henry the 8th didn't write a book a drivel and insist the church had to proudly display it next to the bible! . You couldn't get more of a man of faith and belief than Oliver Cromwell....I suggest you have a good look at his actions. Now if you want to follow Jesus's preachings I'll happily call you religious, but I don't see many Christians doing it... In fact anybody accruing wealth isn't following the teachings are they?.. So yes Adolf fits perfectly into what could be called a religious person but never an atheist.... No atheist would write their own oath starting with I swear to almighty God?. " Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps Hitler was the type of person that said what he thought people needed to hear rather than being a stickler for objective truth? | |||
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"Yes Oliver Cromwell the great monarchist puritan(fucking non drinker) who was guided under gods hand to..... Take land and property off Roman Catholics for the purpose of the greater state and it's true religion of Anglicanism... Next thing you'll be telling me it's he was socialist as well "Hitler didn't drink either. Jesus did. | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?" Yup, do you agree that Stalin and Mao murdered an order of magnitude more of their own people than Hitler had time to? | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?" . This is the sensible forum.... We run conspiracy theorists into the ground round here with logic | |||
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"Yes Oliver Cromwell the great monarchist puritan(fucking non drinker) who was guided under gods hand to..... Take land and property off Roman Catholics for the purpose of the greater state and it's true religion of Anglicanism... Next thing you'll be telling me it's he was socialist as well "Who's god was he guided by and how do you know that god exists ? | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?. This is the sensible forum.... We run conspiracy theorists into the ground round here with logic" Yeah, it's not the lounge ffs | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?. This is the sensible forum.... We run conspiracy theorists into the ground round here with logic Yeah, it's not the lounge ffs" . I hate it when they send threads over here from the lounge.... What do they take us for, some sort of clean up squad.... If it's not good enough for the lounge it's certainly not good enough for here!!... What we need is a doorman | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?. This is the sensible forum.... We run conspiracy theorists into the ground round here with logic Yeah, it's not the lounge ffs. I hate it when they send threads over here from the lounge.... What do they take us for, some sort of clean up squad.... If it's not good enough for the lounge it's certainly not good enough for here!!... What we need is a doorman "lol, is this the "snobs" of fab section behave yourself your on a swingers forum | |||
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"Yes Oliver Cromwell the great monarchist puritan(fucking non drinker) who was guided under gods hand to..... Take land and property off Roman Catholics for the purpose of the greater state and it's true religion of Anglicanism... Next thing you'll be telling me it's he was socialist as well
Who's god was he guided by and how do you know that god exists ?". I've no idea, I'm just stating what the self imposed dictator Cromwell said..... And don't get me wrong, I actually quite like Cromwell hes no olden day trump, he genuinely belived his shit he spouted, no do I say not as I do with him | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?. This is the sensible forum.... We run conspiracy theorists into the ground round here with logic Yeah, it's not the lounge ffs. I hate it when they send threads over here from the lounge.... What do they take us for, some sort of clean up squad.... If it's not good enough for the lounge it's certainly not good enough for here!!... What we need is a doorman
lol, is this the "snobs" of fab section
behave yourself your on a swingers forum". Surely this is the very place to misbehave in?....I mean if we were in a library or a school then yes but if you can't misbehave on a site made to misbehave on then... | |||
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"Out of interest, everyone agrees that the holocaust happened, right?. This is the sensible forum.... We run conspiracy theorists into the ground round here with logic Yeah, it's not the lounge ffs. I hate it when they send threads over here from the lounge.... What do they take us for, some sort of clean up squad.... If it's not good enough for the lounge it's certainly not good enough for here!!... What we need is a doorman "Tell me about it. The problem with threads that start in the lounge and move is that it drags all the riff raff in. Some of them don't even have brier scores! | |||
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" Tell me about it. The problem with threads that start in the lounge and move is that it drags all the riff raff in. Some of them don't even have brier scores! ". I'd say about 94% of them | |||
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lol, is this the "snobs" of fab section
behave yourself your on a swingers forum"now now, you can't accuse the socialists on here of being 'snobs', you'll have them choking on their lattes | |||
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"In fairness I'm sat listening to Jeremy vine on radio 2 and the news guy just said ..... "Unemployment during and after the referendum fell again despite warnings from remainers saying it would rise"" whats your views on firearm holders with depression ? | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference" Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. | |||
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"In fairness I'm sat listening to Jeremy vine on radio 2 and the news guy just said ..... "Unemployment during and after the referendum fell again despite warnings from remainers saying it would rise" whats your views on firearm holders with depression ? ". I don't think anybody should access to firearms unless it's through a shooting club and then with any luck other members might be able to spot signs of mental illness coming on!. It's not that I don't like guns or that I think there dangerous but I think a significant numbers of humans are twats and another significant number are likely to have a mental breakdown, therefore you need to restrict them as much possible without physically banning them because I'm even more anti ban than anti gun | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. " so? are you both saying everyone that chats in the lounge are idiots? I could happily start a thread on this and stir the shit | |||
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"In fairness I'm sat listening to Jeremy vine on radio 2 and the news guy just said ..... "Unemployment during and after the referendum fell again despite warnings from remainers saying it would rise" whats your views on firearm holders with depression ? .
I don't think anybody should access to firearms unless it's through a shooting club and then with any luck other members might be able to spot signs of mental illness coming on!.
It's not that I don't like guns or that I think there dangerous but I think a significant numbers of humans are twats and another significant number are likely to have a mental breakdown, therefore you need to restrict them as much possible without physically banning them because I'm even more anti ban than anti gun"In Scotland there is a big business in deer stalking, many own guns for stalking home & abroad without use of gun clubs you also have to consider farmers, game keepers etc . often farmers are the main candidates for depression | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. so? are you both saying everyone that chats in the lounge are idiots? I could happily start a thread on this and stir the shit "No, I never make sweeping generalisations! But if you do a search for conspiracy theories, fortune tellers and other such clap trap then you will see a lot more unchallenged bullshit in the longe. You can deduce from that what you like. | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. " . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet "Don't forget napoleon | |||
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"In fairness I'm sat listening to Jeremy vine on radio 2 and the news guy just said ..... "Unemployment during and after the referendum fell again despite warnings from remainers saying it would rise" whats your views on firearm holders with depression ? .
I don't think anybody should access to firearms unless it's through a shooting club and then with any luck other members might be able to spot signs of mental illness coming on!.
It's not that I don't like guns or that I think there dangerous but I think a significant numbers of humans are twats and another significant number are likely to have a mental breakdown, therefore you need to restrict them as much possible without physically banning them because I'm even more anti ban than anti gun
In Scotland there is a big business in deer stalking, many own guns for stalking home & abroad without use of gun clubs
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often farmers are the main candidates for depression ". You know, I must know about 40 or 50 farmers and I can only think of two who are shooters and they both shoot clays, there all too busy fucking farming to go out shooting animals, in fact one farmer I know actively protects "his" badgers, he'd probably shoot you if he caught you shooting them (buckshot obviously) he's not a tree hugger he just knows his badgers haven't got tb and he knows there fiercely territorial so no rogue badgers are "getting in" as far as he's concerned | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet
Don't forget napoleon
Didn't end well for him!". He didn't do too bad, don't get me wrong those ascension islands are a bit of a shit hole but elba looks half decent.... | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet
Don't forget napoleon
Didn't end well for him!"It's about the journey not the destination | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet
Don't forget napoleon
Didn't end well for him!
It's about the journey not the destination "unless you're using Ryanair? | |||
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"I'm not a snob I just can't stand idiots.... There's a difference Exactly, it's only snobbish if you believe lower classes are stupid. Which is in itself, a snobbish belief. . You know I love history, when you read enough of it it kinda blinds you but when you look back to people like whittle, Wallis, Mitchell, great pioneers of aviation, they were nearly all working class brought up "poorish" taught in grammar schools but nearly everyone of them attended apprenticeships with UK engineering firms... And the whole system seemed to be able to single out the bright ones and give them opportunities, except whittle who I think was rejected from the RAF for being a short ass.... There's hope for you yet
Don't forget napoleon
Didn't end well for him!
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unless you're using Ryanair?"In which case life is best spent on the sofa, at home | |||
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" Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation?" more bbc bashing for the sake of bashing.... i'm guessing not paying the license fee.... anyway i love it when you go on a rant like this, because you look at everything so singularly... so taking ya points.... "somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece" that because if you read for example, the FT, economist and bloomberg... as well as the bbc... it had been expected that inflation would have been 0.7 or 0.8% this month... are we bashing them as well? "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? you can always look at the last OBR set of figures where they did revise economist forcasts post brexit.... you can also look at the BoE last quarterly report where they did exactly the same..... even in the minutes of the last BoE monthly interest rate meeting, they mentioned it....... are we bashing them as well??? "The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that." remember that interest rate cut to 0.25%.... which lead to banks cutting mortgage rates..... ta daaaa!!!!!!
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"I do hope everyone is equally as annoyed by the right-wing bias displayed by most of the written press in this country. If it's a private newspaper it can do what it likes. I couldn't care less what the Guardian or Daily Fail write, you know what you're getting when you buy the paper. Tax funded media should be neutral though. " | |||
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" Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation? more bbc bashing for the sake of bashing.... i'm guessing not paying the license fee.... anyway i love it when you go on a rant like this, because you look at everything so singularly... so taking ya points.... "somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece" that because if you read for example, the FT, economist and bloomberg... as well as the bbc... it had been expected that inflation would have been 0.7 or 0.8% this month... are we bashing them as well? "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? you can always look at the last OBR set of figures where they did revise economist forcasts post brexit.... you can also look at the BoE last quarterly report where they did exactly the same..... even in the minutes of the last BoE monthly interest rate meeting, they mentioned it....... are we bashing them as well??? "The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that." remember that interest rate cut to 0.25%.... which lead to banks cutting mortgage rates..... ta daaaa!!!!!!
also in mid july energy firms cust gas and electric bills...... "Are any of these organisations you mention paying off a paedophile's victims using your money? The BBC has paid £262,250 to Jimmy Savile's victims. For that reason, I will continue to bash them at every given opportunity and continue to refuse to pay their license fee or watch their programmes. | |||
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" Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation? more bbc bashing for the sake of bashing.... i'm guessing not paying the license fee.... anyway i love it when you go on a rant like this, because you look at everything so singularly... so taking ya points.... "somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece" that because if you read for example, the FT, economist and bloomberg... as well as the bbc... it had been expected that inflation would have been 0.7 or 0.8% this month... are we bashing them as well? "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? you can always look at the last OBR set of figures where they did revise economist forcasts post brexit.... you can also look at the BoE last quarterly report where they did exactly the same..... even in the minutes of the last BoE monthly interest rate meeting, they mentioned it....... are we bashing them as well??? "The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that." remember that interest rate cut to 0.25%.... which lead to banks cutting mortgage rates..... ta daaaa!!!!!!
also in mid july energy firms cust gas and electric bills......
Are any of these organisations you mention paying off a paedophile's victims using your money? The BBC has paid £262,250 to Jimmy Savile's victims. For that reason, I will continue to bash them at every given opportunity and continue to refuse to pay their license fee or watch their programmes."So you are saying that the people who were so viley abused by saville shouldnt get compensation then ? | |||
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" Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation? more bbc bashing for the sake of bashing.... i'm guessing not paying the license fee.... anyway i love it when you go on a rant like this, because you look at everything so singularly... so taking ya points.... "somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece" that because if you read for example, the FT, economist and bloomberg... as well as the bbc... it had been expected that inflation would have been 0.7 or 0.8% this month... are we bashing them as well? "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? you can always look at the last OBR set of figures where they did revise economist forcasts post brexit.... you can also look at the BoE last quarterly report where they did exactly the same..... even in the minutes of the last BoE monthly interest rate meeting, they mentioned it....... are we bashing them as well??? "The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that." remember that interest rate cut to 0.25%.... which lead to banks cutting mortgage rates..... ta daaaa!!!!!!
also in mid july energy firms cust gas and electric bills......
Are any of these organisations you mention paying off a paedophile's victims using your money? The BBC has paid £262,250 to Jimmy Savile's victims. For that reason, I will continue to bash them at every given opportunity and continue to refuse to pay their license fee or watch their programmes.
So you are saying that the people who were so viley abused by saville shouldnt get compensation then ?"Not at all. | |||
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" Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation? more bbc bashing for the sake of bashing.... i'm guessing not paying the license fee.... anyway i love it when you go on a rant like this, because you look at everything so singularly... so taking ya points.... "somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece" that because if you read for example, the FT, economist and bloomberg... as well as the bbc... it had been expected that inflation would have been 0.7 or 0.8% this month... are we bashing them as well? "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? you can always look at the last OBR set of figures where they did revise economist forcasts post brexit.... you can also look at the BoE last quarterly report where they did exactly the same..... even in the minutes of the last BoE monthly interest rate meeting, they mentioned it....... are we bashing them as well??? "The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that." remember that interest rate cut to 0.25%.... which lead to banks cutting mortgage rates..... ta daaaa!!!!!!
also in mid july energy firms cust gas and electric bills......
Are any of these organisations you mention paying off a paedophile's victims using your money? The BBC has paid £262,250 to Jimmy Savile's victims. For that reason, I will continue to bash them at every given opportunity and continue to refuse to pay their license fee or watch their programmes.
So you are saying that the people who were so viley abused by saville shouldnt get compensation then ?"I think the implications was that they shouldn't have been abused in the first place | |||
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" Headline 2: "The inflation monster is stirring" Kamal Ahmed, Economics editor, somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece blames Brexit. He says: "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? And forgetting to mention 'economists' were actually expecting the figure to be over 0.7%. The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that. "Number 10 is watching nervously." Is it? What when the inflation figures have actually remained static and are some 35% of the B of E monitoring figure? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37349812 I just think we are entitled to a far more accurate and independent assessment of news, events and politics from a taxpayer funded organisation? more bbc bashing for the sake of bashing.... i'm guessing not paying the license fee.... anyway i love it when you go on a rant like this, because you look at everything so singularly... so taking ya points.... "somehow manages to create an image of rampant inflation when its holding steady at 0.6% and of course within his piece" that because if you read for example, the FT, economist and bloomberg... as well as the bbc... it had been expected that inflation would have been 0.7 or 0.8% this month... are we bashing them as well? "Some economists are predicting inflation of 3% by the end of next year, above the Bank of England's target of 2%" Without naming them? Basic Journalism surely? you can always look at the last OBR set of figures where they did revise economist forcasts post brexit.... you can also look at the BoE last quarterly report where they did exactly the same..... even in the minutes of the last BoE monthly interest rate meeting, they mentioned it....... are we bashing them as well??? "The Retail Prices Index which includes mortgage interest payments, dropped to 1.8% in August from 1.9% in July. But no mention of that." remember that interest rate cut to 0.25%.... which lead to banks cutting mortgage rates..... ta daaaa!!!!!!
also in mid july energy firms cust gas and electric bills...... "Fabio your comments are getting less well researched as time goes on. Did you read the two examples I gave? No I suspect you didn't. And for the record I do pay my licence fee and always have ... maybe get your facts right before making personal innuendo Old Son. | |||
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"In fairness I'm sat listening to Jeremy vine on radio 2 and the news guy just said ..... "Unemployment during and after the referendum fell again despite warnings from remainers saying it would rise" whats your views on firearm holders with depression ? .
I don't think anybody should access to firearms unless it's through a shooting club and then with any luck other members might be able to spot signs of mental illness coming on!.
It's not that I don't like guns or that I think there dangerous but I think a significant numbers of humans are twats and another significant number are likely to have a mental breakdown, therefore you need to restrict them as much possible without physically banning them because I'm even more anti ban than anti gun
In Scotland there is a big business in deer stalking, many own guns for stalking home & abroad without use of gun clubs
you also have to consider farmers, game keepers etc
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often farmers are the main candidates for depression .
You know, I must know about 40 or 50 farmers and I can only think of two who are shooters and they both shoot clays, there all too busy fucking farming to go out shooting animals, in fact one farmer I know actively protects "his" badgers, he'd probably shoot you if he caught you shooting them (buckshot obviously) he's not a tree hugger he just knows his badgers haven't got tb and he knows there fiercely territorial so no rogue badgers are "getting in" as far as he's concerned"Presume the badgers voted brexit then... | |||
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