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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! " Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. | |||
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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. " How about the SNP or Plaid Cymru? | |||
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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. How about the SNP or Plaid Cymru?" Why should England not have similar, or does that offend the lefties? | |||
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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. How about the SNP or Plaid Cymru? Why should England not have similar, or does that offend the lefties?" Well the SNP said the English shouldn't have exclusive say over English only laws (like in Education, Health, Transport) unlike the Scots who have exclusive say over theirs. And of course the SNP also meddle in ours. And they wonder why people down here dislike the SNP and their hypocrisy and think the Scots deserve better but hey ho. But no we don't need an 'ENP' IMHO. | |||
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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. How about the SNP or Plaid Cymru?" SNP and Pliad Cymru are racist by what they stand for ,there are many forms of racism | |||
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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. How about the SNP or Plaid Cymru? Why should England not have similar, or does that offend the lefties?" Of course the left will be offended. They are offended by everything. It wont be long before breathing is classed as a hate crime. | |||
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"Is the time now right for a new political Party ? I'm thinking of a non Racist ! English National Party on similar lines to the SNP . Please don't think I mean a new BNP cos I Don't ! Something more inclusive rather than exclusive please. How about the SNP or Plaid Cymru? Why should England not have similar, or does that offend the lefties? Of course the left will be offended. They are offended by everything. It wont be long before breathing is classed as a hate crime." It is if you breathe in my safe space | |||
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"A centrist party perhaps? One that tries to keep political ideologies out and genuinely tries to work out how to make Britain better for all levels of society? One that can pull my centre ground voters and politicians from a now hard right Tory party and hard left labour party. Just you know, to give both parties a challenge so they might have to fight for they regional 'safe seats' so to speak?" So the lib dems basically! | |||
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"A centrist party perhaps? One that tries to keep political ideologies out and genuinely tries to work out how to make Britain better for all levels of society? One that can pull my centre ground voters and politicians from a now hard right Tory party and hard left labour party. Just you know, to give both parties a challenge so they might have to fight for they regional 'safe seats' so to speak? So the lib dems basically! " Can they ever come back from being a tory meat shield? Plus, last I heard they want to go into the 2020 election saying that they'll take us back into the EU - so basically seeing as how Owen Smith will most likely loose the labour leadership race, they'll be the 'pro-eu' party. That will either make or break them...again. So no, I'd say a centrist party that can develop afresh. | |||
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"A centrist party perhaps? One that tries to keep political ideologies out and genuinely tries to work out how to make Britain better for all levels of society? One that can pull my centre ground voters and politicians from a now hard right Tory party and hard left labour party. Just you know, to give both parties a challenge so they might have to fight for they regional 'safe seats' so to speak? So the lib dems basically! Can they ever come back from being a tory meat shield? Plus, last I heard they want to go into the 2020 election saying that they'll take us back into the EU - so basically seeing as how Owen Smith will most likely loose the labour leadership race, they'll be the 'pro-eu' party. That will either make or break them...again. So no, I'd say a centrist party that can develop afresh." like the Tory party are doing now you mean? They are not to the 'right' at all and haven't been for years | |||
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"A centrist party perhaps? One that tries to keep political ideologies out and genuinely tries to work out how to make Britain better for all levels of society? One that can pull my centre ground voters and politicians from a now hard right Tory party and hard left labour party. Just you know, to give both parties a challenge so they might have to fight for they regional 'safe seats' so to speak? So the lib dems basically! Can they ever come back from being a tory meat shield? Plus, last I heard they want to go into the 2020 election saying that they'll take us back into the EU - so basically seeing as how Owen Smith will most likely loose the labour leadership race, they'll be the 'pro-eu' party. That will either make or break them...again. So no, I'd say a centrist party that can develop afresh. like the Tory party are doing now you mean? They are not to the 'right' at all and haven't been for years" I wouldn't say the Tories are centrist.... 
My dad is far more right leaning than me and even he points out somethings that the Tories have got through that Thatcher would have loved to see or would have made her blush.
Social mobility has apparently become less possible over the last 8 years, they haven't tackled zero contract hours...
Arguably not with Theresa May they have a leader who comes from a far more traditional Tory background - I'm not saying that means she is evil or going to lead to a harder right wing tory party, but I'm just saying the possibility is there. | |||
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"A centrist party perhaps? One that tries to keep political ideologies out and genuinely tries to work out how to make Britain better for all levels of society? One that can pull my centre ground voters and politicians from a now hard right Tory party and hard left labour party. Just you know, to give both parties a challenge so they might have to fight for they regional 'safe seats' so to speak? So the lib dems basically! Can they ever come back from being a tory meat shield? Plus, last I heard they want to go into the 2020 election saying that they'll take us back into the EU - so basically seeing as how Owen Smith will most likely loose the labour leadership race, they'll be the 'pro-eu' party. That will either make or break them...again. So no, I'd say a centrist party that can develop afresh. like the Tory party are doing now you mean? They are not to the 'right' at all and haven't been for years I wouldn't say the Tories are centrist....
My dad is far more right leaning than me and even he points out somethings that the Tories have got through that Thatcher would have loved to see or would have made her blush.
Social mobility has apparently become less possible over the last 8 years, they haven't tackled zero contract hours...
Arguably not with Theresa May they have a leader who comes from a far more traditional Tory background - I'm not saying that means she is evil or going to lead to a harder right wing tory party, but I'm just saying the possibility is there."I don't really know what social mobility means. If you work hard enough you get there. The introduction of more grammar schools could give poorer kids a better education though and zero hours contracts were introduced under Labour I believe and to control something like that is difficult when the ball has started rolling and there is nothing wrong with a traditional Tory background. Most working class people in this country are conservatives at heart | |||
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"I agree with many of the posts and I appreciate the opinions of the ones I don't agree with . A good point was made about P R . Yes I think that does need bringing in ! Ten per cent of the votes should equal ten percent of power ie Seats . My idea of a new party would primarily be for a Seperate England or at least an English Parliment . Then all 4 country's would have a parliament with equal powers ! And Westminster would be a U K Parliment !" The problem with P.R. though is that you have too many different groups in parliament who never agree on anything so nothing ever gets done.... then again, that could be a good thing instead of politicians continually doing things for the sake of it in an attempt to justify their jobs and fu..ing things up all the time. Funny how parliament and the country always runs so well during the summer when MP's are on their hols  | |||
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"A centrist party perhaps? One that tries to keep political ideologies out and genuinely tries to work out how to make Britain better for all levels of society? One that can pull my centre ground voters and politicians from a now hard right Tory party and hard left labour party. Just you know, to give both parties a challenge so they might have to fight for they regional 'safe seats' so to speak? So the lib dems basically! Can they ever come back from being a tory meat shield? Plus, last I heard they want to go into the 2020 election saying that they'll take us back into the EU - so basically seeing as how Owen Smith will most likely loose the labour leadership race, they'll be the 'pro-eu' party. That will either make or break them...again. So no, I'd say a centrist party that can develop afresh. like the Tory party are doing now you mean? They are not to the 'right' at all and haven't been for years I wouldn't say the Tories are centrist....
My dad is far more right leaning than me and even he points out somethings that the Tories have got through that Thatcher would have loved to see or would have made her blush.
Social mobility has apparently become less possible over the last 8 years, they haven't tackled zero contract hours...
Arguably not with Theresa May they have a leader who comes from a far more traditional Tory background - I'm not saying that means she is evil or going to lead to a harder right wing tory party, but I'm just saying the possibility is there.
I don't really know what social mobility means. If you work hard enough you get there. The introduction of more grammar schools could give poorer kids a better education though and zero hours contracts were introduced under Labour I believe and to control something like that is difficult when the ball has started rolling and there is nothing wrong with a traditional Tory background. Most working class people in this country are conservatives at heart"I think that is a Truth that the modern Labour Party cannot get Thier head round 
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"I agree with many of the posts and I appreciate the opinions of the ones I don't agree with . A good point was made about P R . Yes I think that does need bringing in ! Ten per cent of the votes should equal ten percent of power ie Seats . My idea of a new party would primarily be for a Seperate England or at least an English Parliment . Then all 4 country's would have a parliament with equal powers ! And Westminster would be a U K Parliment ! The problem with P.R. though is that you have too many different groups in parliament who never agree on anything so nothing ever gets done.... then again, that could be a good thing instead of politicians continually doing things for the sake of it in an attempt to justify their jobs and fu..ing things up all the time. Funny how parliament and the country always runs so well during the summer when MP's are on their hols "We disagree on a great many things, but I'll agree with you on the whole "if only they'd stop changing things every few years". Seriously, two of my friends became teachers 4 years ago, the curriculum has had two alternations and one overhaul in that time, they hate it, the kids got so lost with topics and mark schemes getting changed. | |||
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