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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No organisation can be completely neutral.....as none of us can be as people with free will. Have you read some of the Ch 4 news blogs........deary me... The BBC is better than most........but then i am neither left or right in my own politics

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I believe on nationalisation to create a sustaining economy, having rights to education and care. But after that we're on our own. I guess working for international companies for 10 years altered my views.

So when I read papers I expect facts like how much waste we produce in the NHS. What improvements have been made. Less scaremongering more where are we now and what challenges they face.

I read channel 4 because they scrutinise politicians. So I watch it for fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral? "

BBC is one of the worst for left wing bias. Independent is as close to neutral as you'll get.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots


"Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral?

BBC is one of the worst for left wing bias. Independent is as close to neutral as you'll get. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral?

BBC is one of the worst for left wing bias. Independent is as close to neutral as you'll get.

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Of course you know you're a certified member of the looney left when you read the BBC and all you see is right wing bias! As is the case for some forum members who may join later..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral?

BBC is one of the worst for left wing bias. Independent is as close to neutral as you'll get.

Of course you know you're a certified member of the looney left when you read the BBC and all you see is right wing bias! As is the case for some forum members who may join later.."

This would be funny if it were based upon a grain of truth. Sadly it's the usual right wing crap trotted out by some of here...

The truth is the BBC is stacked full of rightwingers. The chairman of the BBC Trust is Chris Patten, a former Conservative cabinet minister.

The BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, was once chairman of the Young Conservatives.

His former senior political producer, Thea Rogers, became George Osborne's special advisor in 2012.

Andrew Neil, the presenter of the BBC's flagship political programmes Daily Politics and This Week, is chairman of the conservative Spectator magazine.

His editor is Robbie Gibb, former chief of staff to the Tory Francis Maude.

I could go on but I think these facts alone, collected by others, go to show just how erm left wing the BBC is....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral?

BBC is one of the worst for left wing bias. Independent is as close to neutral as you'll get.

Of course you know you're a certified member of the looney left when you read the BBC and all you see is right wing bias! As is the case for some forum members who may join later..

This would be funny if it were based upon a grain of truth. Sadly it's the usual right wing crap trotted out by some of here...

The truth is the BBC is stacked full of rightwingers. The chairman of the BBC Trust is Chris Patten, a former Conservative cabinet minister.

The BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, was once chairman of the Young Conservatives.

His former senior political producer, Thea Rogers, became George Osborne's special advisor in 2012.

Andrew Neil, the presenter of the BBC's flagship political programmes Daily Politics and This Week, is chairman of the conservative Spectator magazine.

His editor is Robbie Gibb, former chief of staff to the Tory Francis Maude.

I could go on but I think these facts alone, collected by others, go to show just how erm left wing the BBC is....

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When your political views are close to Marx, most of the population will appear to have a right wing bias.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Which paper is the most neutral when it comes to political views?

I know most papers need to sell and make money. But I always thought the BBC was neutral. How naive of me! I still loved the channel 4 interviews by Jon Snow but are they neutral?

BBC is one of the worst for left wing bias. Independent is as close to neutral as you'll get.

Of course you know you're a certified member of the looney left when you read the BBC and all you see is right wing bias! As is the case for some forum members who may join later..

This would be funny if it were based upon a grain of truth. Sadly it's the usual right wing crap trotted out by some of here...

The truth is the BBC is stacked full of rightwingers. The chairman of the BBC Trust is Chris Patten, a former Conservative cabinet minister.

The BBC's political editor, Nick Robinson, was once chairman of the Young Conservatives.

His former senior political producer, Thea Rogers, became George Osborne's special advisor in 2012.

Andrew Neil, the presenter of the BBC's flagship political programmes Daily Politics and This Week, is chairman of the conservative Spectator magazine.

His editor is Robbie Gibb, former chief of staff to the Tory Francis Maude.

I could go on but I think these facts alone, collected by others, go to show just how erm left wing the BBC is....

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The BBC is the only place I've ever seen a constant deluge of articles on such topics as how fucking great Cuba is, how cold war defectors were misunderstood patriots and how the NHS is the envy of the world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And all good economic news since the referendum is preceded by the words 'despite Brexit'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I try to stay away from as much "news" as possible.... Who's that story news to?.. not me, I couldn't give a fuck about the guys who's dog jumped into the river and was dragged along by currents, the house fire in Staffordshire... Not interested, I'm being honest, I really don't care that three people burned to death in a house fire... That entire story is not about news, it's about changing or actually challenging your perceptions on what you think is relevant... Hate crimes are up... Who gives a shit I'm white.... Job losses in steel... Nah I work in a different industry.,.. Rail strike... Who cares I haven't taken a train for ten years???.

The news has always been about changing cultural attitudes.... To which point the bias becomes more important than the news!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Job losses in steel... Nah I work in a different industry.,.. "

That's not very socialist of you, comrade. Are you losing faith in the dream?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Read, watch and listen to a wide range of sources. That's the best way to see through any bias.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Read, watch and listen to a wide range of sources. That's the best way to see through any bias."

I would say that the international media lack a fundamental understanding of what a balanced debate is. Watching more of them doesn't solve that because they all make the same mistake, from what I can see. A balanced debate is not one with two extreme positions throwing mud at each other anymore than having a chip on each shoulder would make you a balanced person!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Read, watch and listen to a wide range of sources. That's the best way to see through any bias.

I would say that the international media lack a fundamental understanding of what a balanced debate is. Watching more of them doesn't solve that because they all make the same mistake, from what I can see. A balanced debate is not one with two extreme positions throwing mud at each other anymore than having a chip on each shoulder would make you a balanced person! "

Just put them on big brother for a month and expose them as they are. Although would the psychologists would still know how to put a biased reaction into it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Job losses in steel... Nah I work in a different industry.,..

That's not very socialist of you, comrade. Are you losing faith in the dream? "
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I was always more of a Leninist to be honest and he used a mixed economy!

The point I was trying to make but probably badly was it's about creating empathy for the news and not about the news perse

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"Read, watch and listen to a wide range of sources. That's the best way to see through any bias.

I would say that the international media lack a fundamental understanding of what a balanced debate is. Watching more of them doesn't solve that because they all make the same mistake, from what I can see. A balanced debate is not one with two extreme positions throwing mud at each other anymore than having a chip on each shoulder would make you a balanced person! "

They invariably quote the BBC anyway.

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