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Not so good for the EU, as the structure of the EU with its 27 member states would rule them out of getting any future trade deal with America.  | |||
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"He's putting America and Americans first...the Democrats will hate him!" So he should. Same as we should put the UK first. Fuck everyone else  | |||
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"I've just been watching Donald Trump's speech at the Republican convention live on sky news. Interesting that in part of his speech he very clearly says if he becomes President all of Americas existing trade deals will be looked at again, and more importantly any new trade deals America does will only be done on a 1 to 1 (country to country) basis. This is great news for Britain as we are leaving the EU we will be in a position to do a trade deal with America on a 1 to 1, country to country basis.
Not so good for the EU, as the structure of the EU with its 27 member states would rule them out of getting any future trade deal with America. "Ah Trump playing at divide and concur... Would be quite funny if the EU told Trump to go fuck himself. | |||
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"I've just been watching Donald Trump's speech at the Republican convention live on sky news. Interesting that in part of his speech he very clearly says if he becomes President all of Americas existing trade deals will be looked at again, and more importantly any new trade deals America does will only be done on a 1 to 1 (country to country) basis. This is great news for Britain as we are leaving the EU we will be in a position to do a trade deal with America on a 1 to 1, country to country basis.
Not so good for the EU, as the structure of the EU with its 27 member states would rule them out of getting any future trade deal with America.
Ah Trump playing at divide and concur...
Would be quite funny if the EU told Trump to go fuck himself."Lol, but Trump already told the EU to go fuck themselves (in a subtle way) in his speech. | |||
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"I honestly think he is going to get in, he was a "wild card" but with so much shit politics right now, everyone wants a change " Wasn't 'change' Obama's slogan in 2008? | |||
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"Does the EU rally think that the US would worry about them not wanting to deal with them ? It's a big old world out there much bigger than 27 countries " The EU has been in existence for a long time now, Britain was a member for 40 years and in all that time the EU could never manage to get a trade deal with the USA. The EU still doesn't have one now. | |||
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"Does the EU rally think that the US would worry about them not wanting to deal with them ? It's a big old world out there much bigger than 27 countries The EU has been in existence for a long time now, Britain was a member for 40 years and in all that time the EU could never manage to get a trade deal with the USA. The EU still doesn't have one now. " Since the us imports more than it exports to the EU the EU obviously doesn't need one.. | |||
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"Does the EU rally think that the US would worry about them not wanting to deal with them ? It's a big old world out there much bigger than 27 countries " Realistically it's not that big of a world though. There aren't many countries who would have the purchasing power that the citizens of the EU do. How many people in Fiji, Zimbawe, Papa Neu Guinea etc would be willing to pay the cost of American produced goods? Not many. | |||
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"He's putting America and Americans first...the Democrats will hate him! So he should. Same as we should put the UK first. Fuck everyone else " | |||
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"Also the idea of having completely free trade with the US and having their genetically shit they pass off as food flood the markets over here is frightening. " Err, you live in Dublin so you are still in the EU. Trump doesn't want to trade with you. | |||
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"I'm guessing the op agrees with all of trump views like banning Muslims...or are you just pick and choosing what you like?" Guess all you like, I never mentioned Muslims, in fact you are the first person on this thread to utter the word Muslim. This is a thread about Trumps views on trade. | |||
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"I'm guessing the op agrees with all of trump views like banning Muslims...or are you just pick and choosing what you like? Guess all you like, I never mentioned Muslims, in fact you are the first person on this thread to utter the word Muslim. This is a thread about Trumps views on trade. " | |||
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"I'm guessing the op agrees with all of trump views like banning Muslims...or are you just pick and choosing what you like? Guess all you like, I never mentioned Muslims, in fact you are the first person on this thread to utter the word Muslim. This is a thread about Trumps views on trade. " | |||
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"Also the idea of having completely free trade with the US and having their genetically shit they pass off as food flood the markets over here is frightening. Err, you live in Dublin so you are still in the EU. Trump doesn't want to trade with you. "lol, keep believing that. | |||
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"I'm guessing the op agrees with all of trump views like banning Muslims...or are you just pick and choosing what you like?" For fucks sake theres always someone trying to stir up racial hatred  | |||
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"With the anti-politics mood in the western world giving a fair wind to any insurgent's campaign and with HC being so unpopular, even among many Democrats, Trump could well win the election. The Democrats should have gone for Bernie. Hang on to your hats, it's going to be a bumpy ride. The Deutscher-Leoisach is going to stir things up a bit." I have business interests in the US and so spend quite a bit of time there. You would be surprised at the parallels between the average Brexit supporter and average Trump voter in as much as they are both looking for the magic pill that will bring back halcyon days as seen through rose tinted glasses. Your typical Trump supporter is a white Anerican who 30 years ago could have had a job for life in manufacturing and now sees wages and living standards depressed whilst "others" are seen to be doing well. Voting Trump is a way of reversing that situation by making America great again for Americans. Regrettably, the disenfranchised who will vote will, in all likelihood become even more disenfranchised when the magic pill doesn't work. I hardly need say that the typicalBrexit supporter also sees the evil EU as the cause of all the UK failings and also expect a return to halcyon days once "free" of the EU. Once again, the disenfranchised who are looking for longer term, more stable employment again are going to be even more disenfranchised when they realise that their ills were never the fault of the EU at all. If anything, the collective madness of the U.K. Brexit vote has galvanised the normally complacent and occasionally lackadaisical middle American voter to realise that if they don't make an effort in November, the lunatics really could take over the asylum. PS - Hillary will be the next US President. | |||
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"W PS - Hillary will be the next US President." . I think Donald will sneak it!. I think he'll do what sanders wouldn't and delve into her murky side! | |||
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"W PS - Hillary will be the next US President.. I think Donald will sneak it!. I think he'll do what sanders wouldn't and delve into her murky side!" Same. | |||
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"Does the EU rally think that the US would worry about them not wanting to deal with them ? It's a big old world out there much bigger than 27 countries The EU has been in existence for a long time now, Britain was a member for 40 years and in all that time the EU could never manage to get a trade deal with the USA. The EU still doesn't have one now. " In all fairness there are a few reasons, one being that the EU and America are global economies, America always tries to get trade deals in which they have the weight heavily in their favour and refuse little less. eg, They like trade deals to operate on the basis that American companies have huge lobbying power against a national government. I believe Malbro in Ghana or Nigeria is an example of this. And I believe a Norwegian family member was explaining to me a few years ago how an american petroleum company was getting arsey because Norway reserves the right to kick companies out of their territorial waters, as they lease the right to extract resources, rather than a company owning them. Basically the notion that a company can't own a nation's resources seems to piss American businesses off. Now a union of usually left or centre right parties is not going to accept a trade deal which weakens the government, hence why TTIP on the whole of the EU, in it's current form would never get passed. Very likely with our current government like. Additionally what do both partners produce that the other might want, that they can't get through international trade, albeit with high tariffs.The EU most likely wont allow American agricultural products in, as private companies use non-state regulated GM crops and are reluctant to provide chemical and biological data on them. The EU and America comparatively both have big car industries, pharmaceutical groups an technology hubs. So why would either want to go to the hassle to signing what would be a very compromising trade deal? | |||
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"W PS - Hillary will be the next US President.. I think Donald will sneak it!. I think he'll do what sanders wouldn't and delve into her murky side! Same." agreed | |||
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"With the anti-politics mood in the western world giving a fair wind to any insurgent's campaign and with HC being so unpopular, even among many Democrats, Trump could well win the election. The Democrats should have gone for Bernie. Hang on to your hats, it's going to be a bumpy ride. The Deutscher-Leoisach is going to stir things up a bit. I have business interests in the US and so spend quite a bit of time there. You would be surprised at the parallels between the average Brexit supporter and average Trump voter in as much as they are both looking for the magic pill that will bring back halcyon days as seen through rose tinted glasses. Your typical Trump supporter is a white Anerican who 30 years ago could have had a job for life in manufacturing and now sees wages and living standards depressed whilst "others" are seen to be doing well. Voting Trump is a way of reversing that situation by making America great again for Americans. Regrettably, the disenfranchised who will vote will, in all likelihood become even more disenfranchised when the magic pill doesn't work. I hardly need say that the typicalBrexit supporter also sees the evil EU as the cause of all the UK failings and also expect a return to halcyon days once "free" of the EU. Once again, the disenfranchised who are looking for longer term, more stable employment again are going to be even more disenfranchised when they realise that their ills were never the fault of the EU at all. If anything, the collective madness of the U.K. Brexit vote has galvanised the normally complacent and occasionally lackadaisical middle American voter to realise that if they don't make an effort in November, the lunatics really could take over the asylum. PS - Hillary will be the next US President." This is pretty much nail on head. Another similarity between Trump and brexit supporters is the apparent lack of appreciation that, in any negotiation or deal, more than ones own wishes can actually be a factor. The stupid shithead dummies. | |||
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"Just watched the democratic convention TANK, boos every time Hilary Clinton was mentioned, her opponents supporters will probably vote for Trump now. He must have p1ssed himself laughing when he saw the frosty reception. You could see the agitation and shock of the democratic speakers as waves of boo's had to be shouted over. "When was that? I watched the entire night Bill Clinton was speaking, the night Michelle Obama spoke and the entire night Hilary spoke and it was very unified, compassionate, sensible and realistic. Complete with a few facts here and there, which seemed a foreign concept to the republicans. Also the republicans had cruz turn up and denounce him from the stage, many prominent republicans such as the Bushes didn't even turn up and even Ronald Reagan was barely mentioned. | |||
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"I usually pay very close to American politics (have been doing so for years since having spent three years living there) and watch "Meet the Press" regularly among other American channels and political programs. On last week's "Meet the Press" broadcast, Trump said that the EU was created to rival the economic might of the US. The interest thing is, although he says the breakup of the EU in not good for the US, He then seemed to suggest that it is in the interest of the US that that rivalry should be eliminated by the break up of the EU so one has to think that when he backed "Brexit", there was an ulterior motive and it was indeed in the interest of the US and its continued dominance (sighting Airbus as an example), not that he thought Britain or any of the EU countries would be better off. In fact, reading between the lines, he thought the exact opposite. See excerpt below: CHUCK TODD: You're not worried about, you think a fractured Europe is good for America? DONALD TRUMP: No, no. But we're spending a lot of money on Europe. Don't forget, Europe got together, why, primarily did they get together? So that they could beat the United States when it comes to making money, in other words, foreign trade-- CHUCK TODD: Economic-- DONALD TRUMP: Okay? And now we talk about Europe like it's so wonderful. Hey, I love Europe, I have property in Europe. I'm just saying, the reason that it got together was like a consortium so that it could compete with the United States-- CHUCK TODD: So what you're saying is all this stuff is good for America, even if it's not good for Europe? DONALD TRUMP: Look, you take a look at Airbus. They make more planes now than Boeing, okay? They got together, all of these countries got together so that they could beat the United States. Okay, so we're in competition. So you know, we're in competition in one way, we're helping them in another way. It is so messed up. See full transcript here: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-july-24-2016-n615706" of course a large contingent of Americans want a independent Britain/other EU nations, and or the breakup of the EU. When a post Brexit Britain negotiates trade with America, they will have the greater clout than us, therefore they can make the negotiations more favourable for them. | |||
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"I usually pay very close to American politics (have been doing so for years since having spent three years living there) and watch "Meet the Press" regularly among other American channels and political programs. On last week's "Meet the Press" broadcast, Trump said that the EU was created to rival the economic might of the US. The interest thing is, although he says the breakup of the EU in not good for the US, He then seemed to suggest that it is in the interest of the US that that rivalry should be eliminated by the break up of the EU so one has to think that when he backed "Brexit", there was an ulterior motive and it was indeed in the interest of the US and its continued dominance (sighting Airbus as an example), not that he thought Britain or any of the EU countries would be better off. In fact, reading between the lines, he thought the exact opposite. See excerpt below: CHUCK TODD: You're not worried about, you think a fractured Europe is good for America? DONALD TRUMP: No, no. But we're spending a lot of money on Europe. Don't forget, Europe got together, why, primarily did they get together? So that they could beat the United States when it comes to making money, in other words, foreign trade-- CHUCK TODD: Economic-- DONALD TRUMP: Okay? And now we talk about Europe like it's so wonderful. Hey, I love Europe, I have property in Europe. I'm just saying, the reason that it got together was like a consortium so that it could compete with the United States-- CHUCK TODD: So what you're saying is all this stuff is good for America, even if it's not good for Europe? DONALD TRUMP: Look, you take a look at Airbus. They make more planes now than Boeing, okay? They got together, all of these countries got together so that they could beat the United States. Okay, so we're in competition. So you know, we're in competition in one way, we're helping them in another way. It is so messed up. See full transcript here: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-july-24-2016-n615706 of course a large contingent of Americans want a independent Britain/other EU nations, and or the breakup of the EU. When a post Brexit Britain negotiates trade with America, they will have the greater clout than us, therefore they can make the negotiations more favourable for them. " Yep even trump said so ..still the brexiters will wet themselves with delight when the UK gets shafted by the US ..who incidentally have told the UK no talks till after brexit so they can decide are the going to just shaft the UK or really shaft the UK .. | |||
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" Yep even trump said so ..still the brexiters will wet themselves with delight when the UK gets shafted by the US ..who incidentally have told the UK no talks till after brexit so they can decide are the going to just shaft the UK or really shaft the UK .." well Trump never actually said he wanted to shaft the UK did he? Oh wait sorry you just made that up ... It was not the USA who said no talks until after Brexit that was the EU. we are already setting up trade offices in various parts of the USA and have opened up discussions. And given the USA wanted us IN the EU so we could be a Trojan Horse for their Foreign Policy where was the wish to 'shaft the UK'? And you happily forgot to mention the UK is the single biggest inward investor INTO the USA just like the USA is the single biggest inward investor INTO the UK. So if some President wishes to play shafting they will be getting phone calls from very wealthy donors and lobbyists.... | |||
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"'Trump never actually said he wanted to shaft the UK did he?' I was going to say if he did want to shaft us he'd hardly come out and actually say so, but then I remembered it wasn't any normal US Politician but that fuckwit Trump. 'if some President wishes to play shafting they will be getting phone calls from very wealthy donors and lobbyists' I thought he was self funding and not in thrall to wealthy donors and lobbyists" He is also not President yet. My point being that whoever becomes President may actually be persuaded by the needs of the US to do a good deal with the UK given the massive financial and trade ties between us let alone the unique military and defence co-operation. | |||
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" A small market looking to get a deal done with a big market is not going to expect any kind of parity, let alone favourable outcome." Look, you are just basing that on the way it has worked for millennia. This is a new era and don't forget we have some of the finest minds in the country to overwork on this, supplemented by some of the shrewdest political tacticians this country has ever produced. Also when we were the worlds biggest empire we used to get some pretty advantageous deals done in our favour back then I can tell you. Imagine what we can do these days freed of not only the shackles of all those flag waving piccaninnies. | |||
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" A small market looking to get a deal done with a big market is not going to expect any kind of parity, let alone favourable outcome. Look, you are just basing that on the way it has worked for millennia. This is a new era and don't forget we have some of the finest minds in the country to overwork on this, supplemented by some of the shrewdest political tacticians this country has ever produced. Also when we were the worlds biggest empire we used to get some pretty advantageous deals done in our favour back then I can tell you. Imagine what we can do these days freed of not only the shackles of all those flag waving piccaninnies. " I am presuming that your post was written with comical irony in mind? Just try to think it through rationally rather than how you would want it to be. Firstly, we do not have the finest minds to work on it - we don't have hardly any trade negotiators at all right now. Secondly, the reason that trade deals have always worked the way they have is because they have to cater for respective market sizes and demand - it is logical and common sense. If I produce 100,000 tons of products but you already have your own domestic producers of those products but you produce 1,000,000 tons of products of which half would swamp my own domestic market but I do want access to the other half that I don't produce - who has the better hand? I would have to insist on import duties to protect my own smaller domestic market. It is not complicated and it doesn't rely on anything other than market size and demand. As for your comments about the Empire - refer to market size back in those days. | |||
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" A small market looking to get a deal done with a big market is not going to expect any kind of parity, let alone favourable outcome. Look, you are just basing that on the way it has worked for millennia. This is a new era and don't forget we have some of the finest minds in the country to overwork on this, supplemented by some of the shrewdest political tacticians this country has ever produced. Also when we were the worlds biggest empire we used to get some pretty advantageous deals done in our favour back then I can tell you. Imagine what we can do these days freed of not only the shackles of all those flag waving piccaninnies. " | |||
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"People make me laugh here. Size is sooo important. So can anyone tell us what the terms are of the current trade deal the EU has with America?" Dont have one do they ? And guess what the EU exports far more to America than they import | |||
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"People make me laugh here. Size is sooo important. So can anyone tell us what the terms are of the current trade deal the EU has with America? Dont have one do they ? And guess what the EU exports far more to America than they import " exactly | |||
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" I am presuming that your post was written with comical irony in mind? " Yes it was. And it still got a thumbs up by someone.  | |||
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"People make me laugh here. Size is sooo important. So can anyone tell us what the terms are of the current trade deal the EU has with America? Dont have one do they ? And guess what the EU exports far more to America than they import exactly" The issue with not having one surely is if say trump gets in and wants to impose huge tariffs to stop imports he can .. | |||
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" I am presuming that your post was written with comical irony in mind? Yes it was. And it still got a thumbs up by someone. "I did get that it was sarcastic, that's why I liked it. Take the compliment | |||
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"People make me laugh here. Size is sooo important. So can anyone tell us what the terms are of the current trade deal the EU has with America? Dont have one do they ? And guess what the EU exports far more to America than they import exactly The issue with not having one surely is if say trump gets in and wants to impose huge tariffs to stop imports he can .." maybe. But how long has the EU been in existance? And how come they still don't have one? | |||
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"People make me laugh here. Size is sooo important. So can anyone tell us what the terms are of the current trade deal the EU has with America? Dont have one do they ? And guess what the EU exports far more to America than they import exactly The issue with not having one surely is if say trump gets in and wants to impose huge tariffs to stop imports he can .. maybe. But how long has the EU been in existance? And how come they still don't have one?" Think its only in recent years the yanks have worked out there are other countries to trade with before that they thought other countries were just for target practice | |||
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"People make me laugh here. Size is sooo important. So can anyone tell us what the terms are of the current trade deal the EU has with America? Dont have one do they ? And guess what the EU exports far more to America than they import exactly The issue with not having one surely is if say trump gets in and wants to impose huge tariffs to stop imports he can .. maybe. But how long has the EU been in existance? And how come they still don't have one? Think its only in recent years the yanks have worked out there are other countries to trade with before that they thought other countries were just for target practice " excuse me, you can't say yanks it's racist  | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... " Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular ." Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag." Why because he racist as well .. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .." Because he isn't a career politician | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician" That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. " To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. " They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... | |||
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"W PS - Hillary will be the next US President.. I think Donald will sneak it!. I think he'll do what sanders wouldn't and delve into her murky side!" Huey, Duey or Louey would do a better job, as would Goofy!!! | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... " To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? " Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .." Maybe people get the leaders they deserve | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve " Now that sounds more like it | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve " what did you do wrong? | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve what did you do wrong?" Personally I'm too selfish to try and change a system that is in terminal decline. I'm alright jack, you see. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve what did you do wrong? Personally I'm too selfish to try and change a system that is in terminal decline. I'm alright jack, you see." so you don't have a leader? | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve what did you do wrong? Personally I'm too selfish to try and change a system that is in terminal decline. I'm alright jack, you see. so you don't have a leader?" Eh? I have the same leader you do, just I don't rate her is all. | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve what did you do wrong? Personally I'm too selfish to try and change a system that is in terminal decline. I'm alright jack, you see. so you don't have a leader? Eh? I have the same leader you do, just I don't rate her is all. " no but you got the one you deserve, like us all apparently | |||
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"trumps way too busy insulted mothers of dead soldiers and cosying up to mother russia to be bothering about the EU at the moment.... his interview on ABC's "this Week" yesterday was a clusterfuck full of dooshbagery.... Did read about that one thing is these days being a racist gobshite makes you popular . Still, it makes a change from being elected for being a spineless, corrupt, sleaze bag. Why because he racist as well .. Because he isn't a career politician That's right there about to elect another clueless twat .. To be fair they've got a choice of two clueless twats. They have ... with a nation of so many people you would think they could find one more suitable ... To be fair, look at our last general election. 1 real job between 4 of them wasn't it? Maybe a decent Politian is only born every so many generations .. Maybe people get the leaders they deserve what did you do wrong? Personally I'm too selfish to try and change a system that is in terminal decline. I'm alright jack, you see. so you don't have a leader? Eh? I have the same leader you do, just I don't rate her is all. no but you got the one you deserve, like us all apparently" No? Who is your prime minister then!?! We, as a country, get the leaders we deserve, you and I included | |||
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"if you want some understanding of what i am talking about.... here is the interview the donald did for ABC's "this week" programme..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhy-xQbQ14s and this is the response the khan family gave on MSNBC "morning joe" this morning..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4MDUIL5s0E I really do encourage you to watch both....." I'm not sure you need to convince anyone of the evils of trump, it's more that the alternative is a different type of evil. | |||
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"I've just been watching Donald Trump's speech at the Republican convention live on sky news. Interesting that in part of his speech he very clearly says if he becomes President all of Americas existing trade deals will be looked at again, and more importantly any new trade deals America does will only be done on a 1 to 1 (country to country) basis. This is great news for Britain as we are leaving the EU we will be in a position to do a trade deal with America on a 1 to 1, country to country basis.
Not so good for the EU, as the structure of the EU with its 27 member states would rule them out of getting any future trade deal with America.
Ah Trump playing at divide and concur...
Would be quite funny if the EU told Trump to go fuck himself."The EU has neither the balls or the financial clout to do that. The US is still the largest consumer economy in the world and without the UK, the EU is not in a position of strength when dealing with the US. F*** the EU. | |||
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"The EU has neither the balls or the financial clout to do that. The US is still the largest consumer economy in the world and without the UK, the EU is not in a position of strength when dealing with the US. F*** the EU. " I think that if you consider what defines an economy without bias, that is a market with single currency and central bank you will find that the € zone is around the same size if not larger than the USA, further if you include all the countries in the EU except the UK as we are leaving then the EU is the bigger by a considerable margin. However I understand how many will not believe this after all we are always being told that the USA and $ are all powerful so why should we treat the € zone in the same way as we treat the US $ zone? | |||
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"I've just been watching Donald Trump's speech at the Republican convention live on sky news. Interesting that in part of his speech he very clearly says if he becomes President all of Americas existing trade deals will be looked at again, and more importantly any new trade deals America does will only be done on a 1 to 1 (country to country) basis. This is great news for Britain as we are leaving the EU we will be in a position to do a trade deal with America on a 1 to 1, country to country basis.
Not so good for the EU, as the structure of the EU with its 27 member states would rule them out of getting any future trade deal with America.
Ah Trump playing at divide and concur...
Would be quite funny if the EU told Trump to go fuck himself.
The EU has neither the balls or the financial clout to do that. The US is still the largest consumer economy in the world and without the UK, the EU is not in a position of strength when dealing with the US.
F*** the EU. " | |||
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"The EU has neither the balls or the financial clout to do that. The US is still the largest consumer economy in the world and without the UK, the EU is not in a position of strength when dealing with the US. F*** the EU. I think that if you consider what defines an economy without bias, that is a market with single currency and central bank you will find that the € zone is around the same size if not larger than the USA, further if you include all the countries in the EU except the UK as we are leaving then the EU is the bigger by a considerable margin. However I understand how many will not believe this after all we are always being told that the USA and $ are all powerful so why should we treat the € zone in the same way as we treat the US $ zone? " The EU used to boast about having a market of 500 million people. It's only 435 million now the UK is leaving. | |||
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"The EU used to boast about having a market of 500 million people. It's only 435 million now the UK is leaving. "Your point is? Remember we are still in the EU, our government has not even started the exit negotiations. And even when we do leave the EU's population of 435 million will still be 120 million larger than the USA's population...  | |||
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"The EU has neither the balls or the financial clout to do that. The US is still the largest consumer economy in the world and without the UK, the EU is not in a position of strength when dealing with the US. F*** the EU. I think that if you consider what defines an economy without bias, that is a market with single currency and central bank you will find that the € zone is around the same size if not larger than the USA, further if you include all the countries in the EU except the UK as we are leaving then the EU is the bigger by a considerable margin. However I understand how many will not believe this after all we are always being told that the USA and $ are all powerful so why should we treat the € zone in the same way as we treat the US $ zone? The EU used to boast about having a market of 500 million people. It's only 435 million now the UK is leaving. "The UK used to have a growing economy now they boast about how quickly is shrinking due to a brexot vote .. | |||
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"The EU used to boast about having a market of 500 million people. It's only 435 million now the UK is leaving.
Your point is?
Remember we are still in the EU, our government has not even started the exit negotiations.
And even when we do leave the EU's population of 435 million will still be 120 million larger than the USA's population... "You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. " I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure!" so what deal have they got with the EU? | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure!" The UK has historically good relations with the USA, we could be considered their closest ally and we have the 'special relationship' with them. I'm considerably more optimistic about our trade relationship with them than you are. Only time will tell what develops. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU?" You know what deal they have one where if trump gets his way he will make EU imports pay pay the price for trumpism the same as he will do with the little old UK only worse | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU?" They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. " I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU." I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! "so what deal have they got with the EU?" They dont, they are trying to get the EU to sign up to the TTIP and are finding that they cant dictate terms to the EU. Which is the reason why Trump and the rest of corporate America are doing everything they can to subvert and destroy the EU and particularly the € zone. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. " dead right. The EU couldn't deal a 2 card deck | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They dont, they are trying to get the EU to sign up to the TTIP and are finding that they cant dictate terms to the EU. Which is the reason why Trump and the rest of corporate America are doing everything they can to subvert and destroy the EU and particularly the € zone." the Eurozone was destined to fail from the start, it didn't need any help | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!!" how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot | |||
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"The UK has historically good relations with the USA, we could be considered their closest ally and we have the 'special relationship' with them. I'm considerably more optimistic about our trade relationship with them than you are. Only time will tell what develops. " LoL The idea that we have a good relationship with the USA is a fantasy. Even the most superficial knowledge of 20th century bilateral UK USA history would debunk. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot "It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot! | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They dont, they are trying to get the EU to sign up to the TTIP and are finding that they cant dictate terms to the EU. Which is the reason why Trump and the rest of corporate America are doing everything they can to subvert and destroy the EU and particularly the € zone." Did Corporate America want the UK to Remain in the EU so it could destroy it? I don't think so. My American friends here and from when I worked there are actually highly respectful of our decision. They admire our courage to break away and respect independence and freedom for a country to go its own way. After all that is what they did 240 years ago. They want us to succeed not fail and I can see a lot of support coming from across the Pond. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. dead right. The EU couldn't deal a 2 card deck" Let alone a 27 card hand .... | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. dead right. The EU couldn't deal a 2 card deck Let alone a 27 card hand .... "I liken the UK leaving the EU similar to the anti union scabs and weasels who thought they would be treated better by helping bring about the demise of the trade unions ..they weren't redundancy came to them as well .. | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot
It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot!"you just proved that it does | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot
It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot!
you just proved that it does
"This comming from a man who doesn't understand the difference between what should be done and what is obligatory..!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot
It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot!
you just proved that it does
This comming from a man who doesn't understand the difference between what should be done and what is obligatory..!!!!!!!!!"what? Like a Residencia? | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot
It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot!
you just proved that it does
This comming from a man who doesn't understand the difference between what should be done and what is obligatory..!!!!!!!!!
what? Like a Residencia?"Yep you have to understand rules laws and regulations when quoting which you clearly don't | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot
It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot!
you just proved that it does
This comming from a man who doesn't understand the difference between what should be done and what is obligatory..!!!!!!!!!
what? Like a Residencia?
Yep you have to understand rules laws and regulations when quoting which you clearly don't "I don't? So tell me the rules and requirements for living and working in Spain for longer than 3 months please. Educate me | |||
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"You seem to be missing the point, it doesn't matter if the population of the EU is 1 person or 1 billion people, if Trump becomes President then the USA won't be doing any trade deals with the EU. He clearly said so in his speech at the republican convention. The UK on the other hand, now we have voted to leave, will be in a position to do a trade deal with the USA on a 1 to 1, individual country to country basis. Now considering the USA is much bigger than the UK in market size as some have pointed out on this thread, why then would the UK get a 'good' deal from the USA? Well it's very clear from Mr Trump's comments that he doesn't like the EU much, so on that basis he may give the UK a 'good' deal as a way of getting one over on the EU. I think you like many are deluding yourself. You are correct Trump and the US business community do not like the EU. But that is because it is big enough to tell them all to fuck off! The USA does not like anyone who is big enough to tell them fuck off! The USA does not give good deals to anyone they can dictate terms to, that is why they do not like anyone big enough to tell them to 'Fuck Off'! The only deal the US will give us after we leave the EU is one where their corporations get to rape us and we get to pay them for the pleasure! so what deal have they got with the EU? They don't have one and it's more than likely they will never have one. I know that's why trump can make EU imports suffer didn't you realise that ..that's why UK importers to the usa will suffer as well !!!!!!! how can you import something to somewhere? And your use of the exclamation mark clearly shows that you are losing the plot
It quite clearly was meant to read imports! ...and the use of punctuation marks does not indicate the losing of the plot!
you just proved that it does
This comming from a man who doesn't understand the difference between what should be done and what is obligatory..!!!!!!!!!
what? Like a Residencia?
Yep you have to understand rules laws and regulations when quoting which you clearly don't
I don't? So tell me the rules and requirements for living and working in Spain for longer than 3 months please. Educate me"Pay for decent decent information like the rest have to ..up to 500'000 must have as they understand understand the current legislation and then there's the other 300'000 .. | |||
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"Trump is a fucking moron who simply says whatever comes into his head "Unlike other politicians who carefully consider their lies | |||
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"With the anti-politics mood in the western world giving a fair wind to any insurgent's campaign and with HC being so unpopular, even among many Democrats, Trump could well win the election. The Democrats should have gone for Bernie. Hang on to your hats, it's going to be a bumpy ride. The Deutscher-Leoisach is going to stir things up a bit. I have business interests in the US and so spend quite a bit of time there. You would be surprised at the parallels between the average Brexit supporter and average Trump voter in as much as they are both looking for the magic pill that will bring back halcyon days as seen through rose tinted glasses. Your typical Trump supporter is a white Anerican who 30 years ago could have had a job for life in manufacturing and now sees wages and living standards depressed whilst "others" are seen to be doing well. Voting Trump is a way of reversing that situation by making America great again for Americans. Regrettably, the disenfranchised who will vote will, in all likelihood become even more disenfranchised when the magic pill doesn't work. I hardly need say that the typicalBrexit supporter also sees the evil EU as the cause of all the UK failings and also expect a return to halcyon days once "free" of the EU. Once again, the disenfranchised who are looking for longer term, more stable employment again are going to be even more disenfranchised when they realise that their ills were never the fault of the EU at all. If anything, the collective madness of the U.K. Brexit vote has galvanised the normally complacent and occasionally lackadaisical middle American voter to realise that if they don't make an effort in November, the lunatics really could take over the asylum. PS - Hillary will be the next US President." PS - Hillary will be the next US President How wrong you were | |||
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