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"Favourite to replace Farage but declared he will not stand and instead will resign as deputy leader. He will however retain his MEP position to get a handsome payment for doing fuck all. Neil Hamilton for UKIP Fuhrer In Chief? Or will we see UKIP evaporate into thin air?" Evaporation please ..failing that can we have a referendum to determine if there is a place for a party like that in UK politics | |||
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"Banks initiates phase 2" Although I heard hsbc is moving to france, paris, if uk leaves the single market. | |||
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"Banks initiates phase 2Although I heard hsbc is moving to france, paris, if uk leaves the single market." Not HSBC Shag, Arron Banks...ukip owner | |||
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"Favourite to replace Farage but declared he will not stand and instead will resign as deputy leader. He will however retain his MEP position to get a handsome payment for doing fuck all. Neil Hamilton for UKIP Fuhrer In Chief? Or will we see UKIP evaporate into thin air?" And the point of UKIP is now... ? | |||
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"Favourite to replace Farage but declared he will not stand and instead will resign as deputy leader. He will however retain his MEP position to get a handsome payment for doing fuck all. Neil Hamilton for UKIP Fuhrer In Chief? Or will we see UKIP evaporate into thin air? And the point of UKIP is now... ?" To offer folk a little variety in what they want to complain about | |||
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UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
"Think the oficial leave campaign won the argument .. as for winning European elections then being to bloody lazy to fill the seat with their bums just shows the British public like lazy useless politicians..nothing to be proud of ...time will tell if there place for a one policy party .with ex tory politicians | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
"Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU. What is the point in their existence now? | |||
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"Bit of a leap to say 17m people agree with Farage isn't it?" Not at all. The Referendum was a binary question: leave or Remain. Those 17+ Million voted to leave the EU. Which is the aim Farage has been arguing for 20 years. | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?"Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass... So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ... | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ..."Unfortunately the drum bangers for the UKIP party only push home the issues associated with the EU/immigration /laws ..also why vote for a party with a Reputation for not turning up ..ever thought its not just Theresa may http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-date-set-for-first-legal-hearing-to-stop-article-50-being-triggered-by-prime-minister-a7128011.html | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ...
Unfortunately the drum bangers for the UKIP party only push home the issues associated with the EU/immigration /laws ..also why vote for a party with a Reputation for not turning up ..ever thought its not just Theresa may
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-date-set-for-first-legal-hearing-to-stop-article-50-being-triggered-by-prime-minister-a7128011.html "I think you confuse me with someone who gives a rats arse about how UKIP does as a party. I am a disaffected Tory voter utterly ashamed of what Cameron and Osborne did in the EU Referendum in my name. I was, unlike your god self who seems to think every Thread is a chance to make personal comments, discussing the question of where does UKIP go post the Referendum. As I said: whether they will remain as popular is for another debate. Oh wait you never read that far?  | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ...
Unfortunately the drum bangers for the UKIP party only push home the issues associated with the EU/immigration /laws ..also why vote for a party with a Reputation for not turning up ..ever thought its not just Theresa may
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-date-set-for-first-legal-hearing-to-stop-article-50-being-triggered-by-prime-minister-a7128011.html
I think you confuse me with someone who gives a rats arse about how UKIP does as a party. I am a disaffected Tory voter utterly ashamed of what Cameron and Osborne did in the EU Referendum in my name.
I was, unlike your god self who seems to think every Thread is a chance to make personal comments, discussing the question of where does UKIP go post the Referendum. As I said: whether they will remain as popular is for another debate. Oh wait you never read that far? "I'm not confused if dont give a rats arse how ukip do why bother replying to my comment ..clearly you havnt read all the threads in this post ..return to the top and read down ..the top is the first post made .... | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ..."I haven't heard a politician saying that they will not invoke Article 50. Their other policies? Erm, what? | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ...
I haven't heard a politician saying that they will not invoke Article 50.
Their other policies? Erm, what?"Article 50 is the start of the process and depending whether its May or Leadsum you get two very different pictures of when we should invoke that Article and how long after the process will take. May and Co say some 2 years or more. That sounds like kicking the can down the road and maybe we need a UKIP to hold their feet to the fire. People forget UKIP is not a minority party in the country. It polled more votes than the SNP and Libdems together. It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories. I think it is a bit short sighted to just dismiss a party that has achieved so much in such a short time. And remember I am a lifelong Tory just trying get some balance in this discussion. Labour will dismiss UKIP at its electoral peril... | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ...
Unfortunately the drum bangers for the UKIP party only push home the issues associated with the EU/immigration /laws ..also why vote for a party with a Reputation for not turning up ..ever thought its not just Theresa may
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-date-set-for-first-legal-hearing-to-stop-article-50-being-triggered-by-prime-minister-a7128011.html
I think you confuse me with someone who gives a rats arse about how UKIP does as a party. I am a disaffected Tory voter utterly ashamed of what Cameron and Osborne did in the EU Referendum in my name.
I was, unlike your god self who seems to think every Thread is a chance to make personal comments, discussing the question of where does UKIP go post the Referendum. As I said: whether they will remain as popular is for another debate. Oh wait you never read that far?
I'm not confused if dont give a rats arse how ukip do why bother replying to my comment ..clearly you havnt read all the threads in this post ..return to the top and read down ..the top is the first post made .... "Was that an attempt at sarcasm?.... | |||
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"I see the letters U K I and P trigger some pretty daft comments and the usual vitriol from foreign residents. Can I remind people that UKIP WON the last European Elections. They WON the third highest vote and percentage in the last General Election (nearly 3 times more than the SNP). They FORCED the Government to call an EU Referendum and won the argument because 17.4 million people agreed with what Farage and UKIP have been saying for 20 years. But I suppose in some people's eyes that means there are 17.4 million racist xenophobic Little Englanders ....
UKIP will stay a force in British politics especially if Labour implodes as it will because they were already winning over Labour voters in the North and Midlands. They have already said they will need to change post Brexit having won their main objective. Its a shame the Tories and Labour haven't woken up yet and smelt the post Brexit coffee.
Why? I thought they were a party whose aim was to get out of the EU.
What is the point in their existence now?
Simple really. Have we left the EU yet? No. And the way the media and the power people are arguing they want a May Administration kicking Brexit into the long grass...
So there is a place for UKIP and as they have said they will change with the new times. It may be a shock but they do have other policies apart from leaving the EU. Now whether they will remain as popular is another debate ...
I haven't heard a politician saying that they will not invoke Article 50.
Their other policies? Erm, what?
Article 50 is the start of the process and depending whether its May or Leadsum you get two very different pictures of when we should invoke that Article and how long after the process will take. May and Co say some 2 years or more. That sounds like kicking the can down the road and maybe we need a UKIP to hold their feet to the fire. People forget UKIP is not a minority party in the country. It polled more votes than the SNP and Libdems together. It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories.
I think it is a bit short sighted to just dismiss a party that has achieved so much in such a short time. And remember I am a lifelong Tory just trying get some balance in this discussion. Labour will dismiss UKIP at its electoral peril..."As per Mr Garage. A bit like a turkey voting for Christmas. UKIP. The UK Independence Party. And the point of it any more is? | |||
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"Bit of a leap to say 17m people agree with Farage isn't it?" Basically no because they voted out,Farage has been a very important political figure in the history of our country,without him there would have been no referendum. | |||
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"I wonder whether there will be anyone left who will remember Farage in good faith in two years time once the entire economic toll has materialized or once the first Polish have been feathered down the road or any other minority with migrant background. The hate crimes in the aftermath of Brexit....I have seen it all before in other countries with national supremacy mind set. What I found reconfirmed is that it isn't a German phenomenon only ... It's everywhere..... And what's worse for Britain...with the xenophobic and anti migrant propaganda during the campaign which resulted into staggering 17M +voters. It's not a noisy disturbing minority.....it's scary mainstream" Blah blah fucking blah. Change the record. | |||
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"I wonder whether there will be anyone left who will remember Farage in good faith in two years time once the entire economic toll has materialized or once the first Polish have been feathered down the road or any other minority with migrant background. The hate crimes in the aftermath of Brexit....I have seen it all before in other countries with national supremacy mind set. What I found reconfirmed is that it isn't a German phenomenon only ... It's everywhere..... And what's worse for Britain...with the xenophobic and anti migrant propaganda during the campaign which resulted into staggering 17M +voters. It's not a noisy disturbing minority.....it's scary mainstream Blah blah fucking blah. Change the record." Ignorance confirms thesis | |||
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"Bit of a leap to say 17m people agree with Farage isn't it?Basically no because they voted out,Farage has been a very important political figure in the history of our country,without him there would have been no referendum." How many agreed with him in the Thanet parliamentary election? | |||
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" It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories " In the interests of balance - in the 2015 general election UKIP was second in, what, 44 labour seats? And weren't the conservatives second in around about 168 seats won by labour? Isn't 168 bigger than 44 any more in the post Brexit pro-UKIP era? Or is that another case where UKIP drum bangers get to airbrush history? | |||
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" It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories In the interests of balance - in the 2015 general election UKIP was second in, what, 44 labour seats? And weren't the conservatives second in around about 168 seats won by labour? Isn't 168 bigger than 44 any more in the post Brexit pro-UKIP era? Or is that another case where UKIP drum bangers get to airbrush history?" One day you will reply to someone else's posts. Your obsession with my comments is getting rather tiresome especially when you infer something entirely out of the context in discussion. You here selected ONE line out of a lengthy reply and then gave some numbers without any sources (as usual). So here is MY source (and there are others): "Ukip is the obvious winner by this count – despite losing its leader, Nigel Farage, to a second-place finish, the party got one seat and came second in 120 others, despite not getting a single second place back in 2010." http://www.cityam.com/215414/general-election-2015-results-heres-who-came-second-every-seat-including-120-silver-medals And while we are on sources when I give a source it is for everyone to read ALL of it. The fact that I select (as here) a paragraph does not mean I am selectively quoting, dissembling, misinforming, misleading or lying as you so frequently drone on. It means I have THAT opinion and provide data to help the discussion. | |||
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" It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories In the interests of balance - in the 2015 general election UKIP was second in, what, 44 labour seats? And weren't the conservatives second in around about 168 seats won by labour? Isn't 168 bigger than 44 any more in the post Brexit pro-UKIP era? Or is that another case where UKIP drum bangers get to airbrush history? One day you will reply to someone else's posts. Your obsession with my comments is getting rather tiresome especially when you infer something entirely out of the context in discussion. You here selected ONE line out of a lengthy reply and then gave some numbers without any sources (as usual). So here is MY source (and there are others): "Ukip is the obvious winner by this count – despite losing its leader, Nigel Farage, to a second-place finish, the party got one seat and came second in 120 others, despite not getting a single second place back in 2010." http://www.cityam.com/215414/general-election-2015-results-heres-who-came-second-every-seat-including-120-silver-medals And while we are on sources when I give a source it is for everyone to read ALL of it. The fact that I select (as here) a paragraph does not mean I am selectively quoting, dissembling, misinforming, misleading or lying as you so frequently drone on. It means I have THAT opinion and provide data to help the discussion." It was a simple enough question and there's no need for a hissy fit, laddie. My source is the election results published by the electoral commission, old son. | |||
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" It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories " In the interests of balance - in the 2015 general election UKIP was second in, what, 44 labour seats? And weren't the conservatives second in around about 168 seats won by labour? Isn't 168 bigger than 44 any more in the post Brexit pro-UKIP era? Or is that another case where UKIP drum bangers get to airbrush history? | |||
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" It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories In the interests of balance - in the 2015 general election UKIP was second in, what, 44 labour seats? And weren't the conservatives second in around about 168 seats won by labour? Isn't 168 bigger than 44 any more in the post Brexit pro-UKIP era? Or is that another case where UKIP drum bangers get to airbrush history? " I see your copy / paste abilities are better than your memory. | |||
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" It is also achieving second place in Labour constituencies more often than the Tories In the interests of balance - in the 2015 general election UKIP was second in, what, 44 labour seats? And weren't the conservatives second in around about 168 seats won by labour? Isn't 168 bigger than 44 any more in the post Brexit pro-UKIP era? Or is that another case where UKIP drum bangers get to airbrush history? I see your copy / paste abilities are better than your memory. "And your numerical ability is still limited, or are you going to apologise for one of your misleading statements for once?? | |||
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