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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

War crimes prosecutors say Tony Blair will not be investigated over Chilcot's Iraq war report, but British soldiers could be. What do you think of the news?

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

If the soldiers are to be investigated so should he. He's the one that sent them in there under false pretences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we will have to wait for the report first. Not long to go.

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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago

solihull

I don't see how they can say they are going to scrutinize the report but state that they are going to nothing to him. Surely that is completely prempting justice.... Appaling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

of course he wont be prosecuted. None of them ever are. As a side note over 80 were just killed by an isis isil cia daech taliban al quaeeda suicide bomber in baghdad. And the iraq forces only just regained control of fallujah after 2.5 years of occupation. Keep voting for these scum bags

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By *anny Boy31Man
over a year ago

Belfast all over the Uk and Ireland

A lot of former PMs should be investigated as they all have blood on their hands

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

There is a rumour that he may face impeachment though.

I do hope so.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What will happen too bush tho? He was on it as well.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"What will happen too bush tho? He was on it as well."

That isn't up to the Brits to decide.

Personally I'd lock them both up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What will happen too bush tho? He was on it as well.

That isn't up to the Brits to decide.

Personally I'd lock them both up."
I see yes, so that is up to the US.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's interesting how many people have their conclusion before they've seen the evidence

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

There was never any chance of Blair being charged with war crimes, he did not commit any.

He lied to get the parliament and the country to back him. That is not a crime, maybe it should be but as it is what all politicians do I cant see them making it illegal.

As for soldiers being investigated that was bound to happen because The Nurenburg War Crimes Tribunal established that all soldiers are responsible for their actions and 'following orders' is not an acceptable defence.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Isn't this a bit too political for discussion in the Lounge...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was never any chance of Blair being charged with war crimes, he did not commit any.

He lied to get the parliament and the country to back him."

Passing on bullshit and lying are not always the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a Blair fan but feel no PM should be done for war crimes.

Thatcher warned of Sadaam Hussain when she was PM when he used chemical weapons on the people of Iran.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch them all run and hide when the shit hits the fan and it will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't they say it's not being done to find scapegoats

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By *anny Boy31Man
over a year ago

Belfast all over the Uk and Ireland


"Not a Blair fan but feel no PM should be done for war crimes.

Thatcher warned of Sadaam Hussain when she was PM when he used chemical weapons on the people of Iran. "

I and quite a few of my friends and neighbors would beg to differ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"War crimes prosecutors say Tony Blair will not be investigated over Chilcot's Iraq war report, but British soldiers could be. What do you think of the news?"

Teflon tony !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He repealed the treason laws then committed treason. He participated in the starting of a massive campaign of death and destruction, the results of which we feel to this day on an almost daily basis. He stood up and lied to Parliament to get their agreement, and he knew he was lying when he did it.

How this man is not in prison is beyond me.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

There was never any chance of Blair being charged with war crimes, he did not commit any.

He lied to get the parliament and the country to back him.


"Passing on bullshit and lying are not always the same "

I stand by my original statement. He lied, he may have been repeating others lies, he may not have know he was lying at the time, but his claims were false and that is the definition of lying.

I did not say he deliberately lied as I do not know that and doubt I ever will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not one MP knew he was lying and brought him to task straight away.

Didn't he win a vote to go to war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a Blair fan but feel no PM should be done for war crimes.

Thatcher warned of Sadaam Hussain when she was PM when he used chemical weapons on the people of Iran. "

Whilst supplying him with weapons to fight against Iran who had deposed the Shar who the west installed In place of the democratically elected government

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"He repealed the treason laws then committed treason. He participated in the starting of a massive campaign of death and destruction, the results of which we feel to this day on an almost daily basis. He stood up and lied to Parliament to get their agreement, and he knew he was lying when he did it.

How this man is not in prison is beyond me."

Would you like to explain how he committed treason?

I only know of one politician who committed treason at that time and it was George Galloway who 'incited the armed forces disaffection and mutiny' and 'gave aid and comfort to an enemy'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He repealed the treason laws then committed treason. He participated in the starting of a massive campaign of death and destruction, the results of which we feel to this day on an almost daily basis. He stood up and lied to Parliament to get their agreement, and he knew he was lying when he did it.

How this man is not in prison is beyond me.

Would you like to explain how he committed treason?

I only know of one politician who committed treason at that time and it was George Galloway who 'incited the armed forces disaffection and mutiny' and 'gave aid and comfort to an enemy'."
Are you sure that iraq was an enemy of the uk at that time ?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Absolutely, in 1994 he visited Iriq and made a public speech where he addressed Saddam, in it he said:

"I can honestly tell you that there was not a single person to whom I told I was coming to Iraq and hoping to meet with yourself who did not wish me to convey their heartfelt, fraternal greetings and support"

He finished the speech with:

"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigably"

In those 2 statements he committed High Treason.

In 2003 he said Blair:

"lied to the British Air Force and Navy, when they said the battle of Iraq would be very quick and easy. They attacked Iraq like wolves" and added that "the best thing British troops can do is to refuse to obey illegal orders."

Those orders were not illegal and therefore that statement was an 'incitement to disaffection and mutiny' which is also an act of treason.

Now I have justified my statement about Galloway can someone please do the same with the statement about Blair showing the act and the criminal offence that is committed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just an observation if I may?

Blair lied to the British people. That is not a crime its what politicians do and Blair was the best at telling lies with a smiling face.

However he also misled Parliament and he did it to secure a vote to go to war. Now THAT is serious and is Contempt of Parliament. He can be impeached and tried at the Bar of the House. Although he is now a 'Stranger' and not a 'Member' of the House.

If the House decides it WAS misled and that was a factor in the House voting to go to war then the war becomes illegal with all sorts of ramifications for many people. And the coffin following legal scum will make a fortune as will thousands of Iraquis. It will make Brexit look like a walk in the park... This is serious shit so expect a whitewash and closing of Establishment ranks ....

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Just an observation if I may?

Blair lied to the British people. That is not a crime its what politicians do and Blair was the best at telling lies with a smiling face.

However he also misled Parliament and he did it to secure a vote to go to war. Now THAT is serious and is Contempt of Parliament. He can be impeached and tried at the Bar of the House. Although he is now a 'Stranger' and not a 'Member' of the House.

If the House decides it WAS misled and that was a factor in the House voting to go to war then the war becomes illegal with all sorts of ramifications for many people. And the coffin following legal scum will make a fortune as will thousands of Iraquis. It will make Brexit look like a walk in the park... This is serious shit so expect a whitewash and closing of Establishment ranks ...."

Good news for tony ...job done ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was never any chance of Blair being charged with war crimes, he did not commit any.

He lied to get the parliament and the country to back him.

Passing on bullshit and lying are not always the same

I stand by my original statement. He lied, he may have been repeating others lies, he may not have know he was lying at the time, but his claims were false and that is the definition of lying.

I did not say he deliberately lied as I do not know that and doubt I ever will. "

Bill O'Reily and Michael Moore spent about 15 minutes going round in circles on that point and it wasn't interesting then! My understanding of a lie is that there has to be intent to deceive. Some of this claims were no doubt false.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ridiculous !

The state and government would never lie to the people !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No. "

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever"

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" "
He is tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" He is tho."

Powerful counter arguments from the anti side...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" He is tho.

Powerful counter arguments from the anti side... "
Come on mate the state wouldn't lie to the people it represents. It never has and never will, thats just conspiracy theory non sense !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" He is tho.

Powerful counter arguments from the anti side... Come on mate the state wouldn't lie to the people it represents. It never has and never will, thats just conspiracy theory non sense !"

Telling a lie isn't the definition of a war crime!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" He is tho."

Paula500, why is he? Please state which part of which convention you think he has broken. Or which part of our unmodified constitution you think he has broken.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

How long did it take to get the Hillsborough inquiry to find the truth? If the same standards that found the police culpable were applied to blair then he would be found guilty of misleading the uk and sending hundreds of soldiers to their death and thousands of civilians and of course the mess left behind led to the formation of isis

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone


"War crimes prosecutors say Tony Blair will not be investigated over Chilcot's Iraq war report, but British soldiers could be. What do you think of the news?"

I think it's great news, justice and democracy walking hand in hand, with a sense of fair play running out in front with the dog.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" He is tho.

Paula500, why is he? Please state which part of which convention you think he has broken. Or which part of our unmodified constitution you think he has broken."
Eh ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" "

and once it has been released it is up to someone else to decide what crimes if any have been committed, including by Blair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"War crimes prosecutors say Tony Blair will not be investigated over Chilcot's Iraq war report, but British soldiers could be. What do you think of the news?"
fekin whaaat??!! Not suprised if war known as teflon tony! How did he pull this stunt?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"In the UK, the Prime Minister alone has the power to declare war on another country. In the case of the Iraq war, Blair put it to parliament and parliament supported the decision. So the war in Iraq was not in itself a war crime.

Did some individuals or groups of individual British soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines commit war crimes whilst they were there? I hope not, and I don't believe any evidence has come to light to prove that it has. There has already been a separate inquiry into that.

So is Blair a war criminal? No.

Blimey, who needs Chilcott?

He is an odious little shite though whatever

The Chilcott inquiry was set up to investigate the "way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish, as accurately as possible, what happened and to identify the lessons that can be learned." Not to answer the question "is Blair a war criminal?" He is tho.

Paula500, why is he? Please state which part of which convention you think he has broken. Or which part of our unmodified constitution you think he has broken. Eh ?"

That was meant to read uncodeified.

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