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"Nigel farage n boris johnson to lead coalition government wud be great" Farage needs to be an MP first...right..? | |||
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"Farage needs to be an MP first...right..? " Actually I think not. I may be wrong but I believe that the Monarch can ask anyone to form a government. They most definitely don't need to be an elected member of the House of Commons, although that has been the convention for a long time. The last lord to be prim minister while in the Lords was Lord Salisbury in 1902. | |||
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"Farage needs to be an MP first...right..? Actually I think not. I may be wrong but I believe that the Monarch can ask anyone to form a government. They most definitely don't need to be an elected member of the House of Commons, although that has been the convention for a long time. The last lord to be prim minister while in the Lords was Lord Salisbury in 1902." But consider the irony, voting out of an organisation because we were deemed ruled by unelected bureaucrats to vote in Farage, a pompous, unprofessional egomaniac who just likes to kick the hornets nest. | |||
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"Farage cannot be PM or in the cabinet, he is not objective. He will lead us to ruin. Boris as PM wouldn't be great either. He would be ok in the cabinet but he's no leader. " He cannot enter the commons with being an MP but he can be a cabinet minister | |||
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"Nigel farage n boris johnson to lead coalition government wud be great" This is the scariest sentence ever written. | |||
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"Nigel farage n boris johnson to lead coalition government wud be great This is the scariest sentence ever written. " I'm not scared simply because it will never happen | |||
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"I'm not scared simply because it will never happen " Are you not scared that the people who think it would be a good idea are now in charge? I am.. | |||
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"I'm not scared simply because it will never happen Are you not scared that the people who think it would be a good idea are now in charge? I am.." yes you have a very valid point there | |||
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"Stephen Crabb is the dark horse in this, he's not long been promoted to replace IDS and now he's joining forces with Javid. Tory party don't need a coalition with ukip, that will never happen unless there's a general election and then it's all bets off " i think the last thing that the Tories want is an early election.. Given their small minority can't see why they would they want to give UKIP who on the back of the vote will be more 'popular' than before the vote.. they will look to see if UKIP's popularity diminishes over the course of the next 4 years.. | |||
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"I'm not scared simply because it will never happen Are you not scared that the people who think it would be a good idea are now in charge? I am..yes you have a very valid point there " | |||
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"Yet at least some of the 52 % that voted 'leave' must support them ?!? Or am I wrong to make such a sweeping assumption? " no ide say your spot on | |||
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"Yet at least some of the 52 % that voted 'leave' must support them ?!? Or am I wrong to make such a sweeping assumption? no ide say your spot on " Data is emerging on voter preference so it should be relatively easy to prove if there's a correlation by looking at areas with a high leave count and high ukip votes in the last general election. I suspect there would be one! | |||
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"Hasn't this proved exactly how out of touch this government is with the majority of the population, all be it a slim majority. Hilary Benn spoke alot of sense every time I heard him, not sure if he can still become leader after being sacked. As for conservative leader perhaps we need another female pm? As for farage I would never ever vote for ukip to run the country. I would be seeking political asylum in the canary islands if ukip came to power. " Definitely out of touch and it's a great shame that it took this to show it. I can't help feel that the fallout will now take a lot longer than 2 years to sort out, probably ten to extract all our laws but people don't forget how this has divided friends and families and so the effect will be felt by us for a very very long time. | |||
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"Stephen Crabb is the dark horse in this, he's not long been promoted to replace IDS and now he's joining forces with Javid. Tory party don't need a coalition with ukip, that will never happen unless there's a general election and then it's all bets off i think the last thing that the Tories want is an early election.. Given their small minority can't see why they would they want to give UKIP who on the back of the vote will be more 'popular' than before the vote.. they will look to see if UKIP's popularity diminishes over the course of the next 4 years.. " Get the election out the way whilst labour are in complete disarray. This could be the comeback of the liberal party.... | |||
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"Stephen Crabb is the dark horse in this, he's not long been promoted to replace IDS and now he's joining forces with Javid. Tory party don't need a coalition with ukip, that will never happen unless there's a general election and then it's all bets off i think the last thing that the Tories want is an early election.. Given their small minority can't see why they would they want to give UKIP who on the back of the vote will be more 'popular' than before the vote.. they will look to see if UKIP's popularity diminishes over the course of the next 4 years.. " Without a general election, the govt has little, to no chance of getting approval to invoke Article 50 in parliament. 70%+ of MP's are EU supporters and even more Lords. This was the whole purpose of Cameron stepping down and leaving the mess for those who had made it to sort out. Boris could be the next PM but within weeks he could face a vote of no confidence because he was unable to get his proposal to invoke Article 50 through Parliament - shortest Prime Ministerial reign for hundreds of years. He seems to think that the EU referendum has given him the mandate to invoke Article 50 without parliamentary approval but will that wash?? This is the guy who planned and executed the entirely fictional £350 million a week to the NHS slogan. | |||
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"Stephen Crabb is the dark horse in this, he's not long been promoted to replace IDS and now he's joining forces with Javid. Tory party don't need a coalition with ukip, that will never happen unless there's a general election and then it's all bets off i think the last thing that the Tories want is an early election.. Given their small minority can't see why they would they want to give UKIP who on the back of the vote will be more 'popular' than before the vote.. they will look to see if UKIP's popularity diminishes over the course of the next 4 years.. Without a general election, the govt has little, to no chance of getting approval to invoke Article 50 in parliament. 70%+ of MP's are EU supporters and even more Lords. This was the whole purpose of Cameron stepping down and leaving the mess for those who had made it to sort out. Boris could be the next PM but within weeks he could face a vote of no confidence because he was unable to get his proposal to invoke Article 50 through Parliament - shortest Prime Ministerial reign for hundreds of years. He seems to think that the EU referendum has given him the mandate to invoke Article 50 without parliamentary approval but will that wash?? This is the guy who planned and executed the entirely fictional £350 million a week to the NHS slogan. " I agree…Cameron knew exactly what he was doing by resigning as PM by effectively giving his 'notice'. I believe this is a masterstroke because he appears to be acting in the country's short term interest... | |||
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"Stephen Crabb is the dark horse in this, he's not long been promoted to replace IDS and now he's joining forces with Javid. Tory party don't need a coalition with ukip, that will never happen unless there's a general election and then it's all bets off " Crabb just made his speech to become party leader and he couldn't even remember the questions asked by reporters. Simple two part opening questions, they were asked to be repeated or they were only first part half answered. He would get eaten alive in the political arena I'd say. | |||
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"I think Boris will become PM and ruin our country as a result. We will become racially divided, his outbursts will give us no political standing, we will become the laughed at nation of Europe with the USA pulling our strings ever more. " Brexit | |||
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"I think Boris will become PM and ruin our country as a result. We will become racially divided, his outbursts will give us no political standing, we will become the laughed at nation of Europe with the USA pulling our strings ever more. Brexit " I'm not sure Boris believes in brexit. I think he's actually quite shrewd, however he is all about what's good for Boris, not what's good for the country. | |||
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"I think Boris will become PM and ruin our country as a result. We will become racially divided, his outbursts will give us no political standing, we will become the laughed at nation of Europe with the USA pulling our strings ever more. Brexit I'm not sure Boris believes in brexit. I think he's actually quite shrewd, however he is all about what's good for Boris, not what's good for the country." Exactly, he's already distanced himself from the Farage campaign and wants to stay within the single market. Once immigration issues are realised as unrealistic, issues with race and ethnicity will increase. With more Labour voters edging towards Ukip due to lack of leadership, Boris could spell a world of politics that divides a nation, but his political aspiration comes above this I think | |||
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"Stephen Crabb is the dark horse in this, he's not long been promoted to replace IDS and now he's joining forces with Javid. Tory party don't need a coalition with ukip, that will never happen unless there's a general election and then it's all bets off i think the last thing that the Tories want is an early election.. Given their small minority can't see why they would they want to give UKIP who on the back of the vote will be more 'popular' than before the vote.. they will look to see if UKIP's popularity diminishes over the course of the next 4 years.. Without a general election, the govt has little, to no chance of getting approval to invoke Article 50 in parliament. 70%+ of MP's are EU supporters and even more Lords. This was the whole purpose of Cameron stepping down and leaving the mess for those who had made it to sort out. Boris could be the next PM but within weeks he could face a vote of no confidence because he was unable to get his proposal to invoke Article 50 through Parliament - shortest Prime Ministerial reign for hundreds of years. He seems to think that the EU referendum has given him the mandate to invoke Article 50 without parliamentary approval but will that wash?? This is the guy who planned and executed the entirely fictional £350 million a week to the NHS slogan. " as ever a good perspective, be interesting to see how people would vote given Labour as a party are for remaining. A rise in UKIP MP's certainly.. Think i read that some legislation re Europe/EU needs to be voted out before Article 50 is enacted..? | |||
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" as ever a good perspective, be interesting to see how people would vote given Labour as a party are for remaining. A rise in UKIP MP's certainly.. Think i read that some legislation re Europe/EU needs to be voted out before Article 50 is enacted..?" That was a Hunts proposal for a second referendum to trigger Article 50 or not. Thereby asking the public if they wanted to stand by the result or not. We have been asked if we want to exit - now we know the result, the second referendum would ask if we want to go through with it. A political answer to the problem. | |||
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" as ever a good perspective, be interesting to see how people would vote given Labour as a party are for remaining. A rise in UKIP MP's certainly.. Think i read that some legislation re Europe/EU needs to be voted out before Article 50 is enacted..? That was a Hunts proposal for a second referendum to trigger Article 50 or not. Thereby asking the public if they wanted to stand by the result or not. We have been asked if we want to exit - now we know the result, the second referendum would ask if we want to go through with it. A political answer to the problem." Not quite the case. The referendum was about EU Membership and not about access to the single market. It would take a very brave politician to press the economic suicide button by taking the UK out of the single market without putting the consequences to a further referendum. | |||
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" as ever a good perspective, be interesting to see how people would vote given Labour as a party are for remaining. A rise in UKIP MP's certainly.. Think i read that some legislation re Europe/EU needs to be voted out before Article 50 is enacted..? That was a Hunts proposal for a second referendum to trigger Article 50 or not. Thereby asking the public if they wanted to stand by the result or not. We have been asked if we want to exit - now we know the result, the second referendum would ask if we want to go through with it. A political answer to the problem. Not quite the case. The referendum was about EU Membership and not about access to the single market. It would take a very brave politician to press the economic suicide button by taking the UK out of the single market without putting the consequences to a further referendum." As the European Council has clearly stated, the single market relies on free movement. Once the Brxiters realise their immigration controls are not going to be realised, the new PM will have to either give a second referendum or be shoulder the burden and be voted outed out by general election (and potentially election risk the Conservatives not winning again in 2020). A second referendum would be the better of he two as it would then be wholly in public hands with now full facts. | |||
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"Nigel farage n boris johnson to lead coalition government wud be great" No. No it would not. | |||
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