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" The incident was clearly extremely serious, but motive is crucial. Following Katz comments, is it automatic to assume this was a jihadi terror attack, or should we wait for evidence establishing the attacker’s motive before reaching that conclusion?" It’s always important to allow investigations to take place and come to conclusions with the evidence that is revealed. As we’ve seen already this week in the U.K. | |||
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" The incident was clearly extremely serious, but motive is crucial. Following Katz comments, is it automatic to assume this was a jihadi terror attack, or should we wait for evidence establishing the attacker’s motive before reaching that conclusion?" We can take a provisional educated guess (realising that it is just that) on the understanding that more information is yet to emerge. The geopolitics at play here right now is insane. Whatever the official story, there will be at least two different version of events gaining traction online. What's interesting is that, in this story, there are a fair number of eyewitnesses who have released footage and spoken publicly. | |||
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"The pro-Palestinian lot on here will be disappointed the plane didn’t crash… " Will they? | |||
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"Oh yes, you know they will be." Pro-Palestine doesn’t mean ‘wish death upon every Jew in Isreal’. Not sure if that’s news to you or not. | |||
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"It’s what the pro-Palestinian lot on here and elsewhere always hide behind… ‘We don’t hate Jews really!’ Yeah right! You just support a bunch of backward, homophobic misogynistic cunts because…? It’s just a coincidence they hate Jews as well?" Are you confusing Palestine (a region) with Hamas (a terrorist group)? | |||
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" You just support a bunch of backward, homophobic misogynistic cunts because…" I am going to pick up on this though - have you compared orthodox Judaism with the criticisms you just spouted? | |||
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"The pro-Palestinian lot on here will be disappointed the plane didn’t crash… " Fortunately it didn’t crash. If it had Gaza would be burning again tonight. | |||
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"The pro-Palestinian lot on here will be disappointed the plane didn’t crash… Fortunately it didn’t crash. If it had Gaza would be burning again tonight. " I doubt there’s been a night in the last couple of years that Gaza hasn’t been burning. | |||
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"It’s what the pro-Palestinian lot on here and elsewhere always hide behind… ‘We don’t hate Jews really!’ Yeah right! You just support a bunch of backward, homophobic misogynistic cunts because…? It’s just a coincidence they hate Jews as well?" So who did you Jews blame, before Islam was founded? | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot." Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall?" I just have visions of Leslie Nielson telling everyone to calm down, Otto the auto pilot being "blown" up and kitten natividad springing across the screen. | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot." Reportedly the pilot managed to open the door and activate the distress signal. | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall?" You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out?" I just struggle sometimes to understand why Jews always seem to have of lots of different countries that wish them harm,I'm sure that it will be classed as a terrorist attack and Israel will be hailed as the saviour of the free world, have you seen the pictures taken, if the blood pattern looked real to you, then we obviously saw different pictures,and why presume that it was Iran behind it, what possibly could Iran have a problem with Israel for? | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out?" Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot." Apparently the stabbed pilot had the presence of mind to unlock the cabin door when being attacked. | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists" So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. " no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists " So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit)" you keep telling yourself that | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) you keep telling yourself that" I will pal, because if I ‘hated Jews’ as you claim, I wouldn’t have said ‘fortunately there were no fatalities’ would I? | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) you keep telling yourself that I will pal, because if I ‘hated Jews’ as you claim, I wouldn’t have said ‘fortunately there were no fatalities’ would I? " yea yea yea 80years ago you would of been wearing a brown shirt | |||
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"And no comment from those c-nts burnham and khan - Wonder why ? Two tier scum as if it was a plane flying into pakistan we would have heard no end of drivel . " as usual mate I'm surprised khan or manhood didn't blame the far right for attacking the scumbag pilot who tried to crash the plane | |||
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" I just struggle sometimes to understand why Jews always seem to have of lots of different countries that wish them harm " Thank you for not hiding behind the word "Israelis" when you mean "Jews", unlike some other cowards who cannot even admit it to themselves, for fear that it would make them the R-word. " I'm sure that it will be classed as a terrorist attack and Israel will be hailed as the saviour of the free world, have you seen the pictures taken, if the blood pattern looked real to you, then we obviously saw different pictures,and why presume that it was Iran behind it, what possibly could Iran have a problem with Israel for?" Why is it that there is not a single bad thing that happens to Jews (or Israelis, is you like) that is not attributed back to Israel? October 7th, 9/11, the Holocaust - someone always manages to bring the blame back, using fairly obscure and flimsy logic or evidence. | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit)" This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) | |||
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"Concerning that not only there was access to the cabin, but also that the assailant got a knife on board so easily. Incredibly lax really & questions clearly need to be asked. …also mighty fortunate that there was another pilot on board isn’t it. Anyhow, fortunately there were no fatalities, and we will wait for things to all come out in the wash etc but this seems ‘fortunate’ timing for Netanyahu to keep pursuing his hard line policies when world opinion is shifting against him & Israel? …and before people say my suspicion is unfounded, I’m not sure it is. The Israelis have got form for bullshit & false flags. So let’s see." False flags ? Jesus you havd been brainwashed | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) " you keep telling yourself that heinrich | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich" Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? " nope I don't what I do think is the anti semites on here ain't got the balls to do it out in the open as it may smear there anti racism flag waving now toddle off babushka | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) " Israel is doing and has been doing the western worlds clearing up of the scum - the middle east has exported ygeir scum to europe and the uk - incredible to think that tge flight was from Dubai to Tel Aviv - that it got diverted to Saudi . War in gaza - lets not forget what started it - and lets not forget how none of the other middle eastern countries have not batted an eye lid - ask yourself why - those people are paracites - just like those here marching every saturday - Home secretary swearing her oath on the quoran - attending anti Israel march - Foreigh secretary codying up to iran - Go and grab a coffee and wake up - I so fear for the next generation - but there are plenty in this who want to make sure that this country returns to what it should be . Have a good day . | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? nope I don't what I do think is the anti semites on here ain't got the balls to do it out in the open as it may smear there anti racism flag waving now toddle off babushka" Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? " Green Party leader Zack Polanski said recently that criticism of the Israeli state and antisemitism are incorrectly conflated and moreover "I think as a Jewish community, we need to come together to recognize that when we call that anti-Semitic, we are making ourselves as Jewish people less safe." Perhaps he has a point? | |||
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" War in gaza - lets not forget what started it - " What started it? | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) Israel is doing and has been doing the western worlds clearing up of the scum - the middle east has exported ygeir scum to europe and the uk - incredible to think that tge flight was from Dubai to Tel Aviv - that it got diverted to Saudi . War in gaza - lets not forget what started it - and lets not forget how none of the other middle eastern countries have not batted an eye lid - ask yourself why - those people are paracites - just like those here marching every saturday - Home secretary swearing her oath on the quoran - attending anti Israel march - Foreigh secretary codying up to iran - Go and grab a coffee and wake up - I so fear for the next generation - but there are plenty in this who want to make sure that this country returns to what it should be . Have a good day ." so so true this country needs to wake up quickly before something happens im like you i fear for the next generation | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? Green Party leader Zack Polanski said recently that criticism of the Israeli state and antisemitism are incorrectly conflated and moreover "I think as a Jewish community, we need to come together to recognize that when we call that anti-Semitic, we are making ourselves as Jewish people less safe." Perhaps he has a point? " Looking to get your tits enlarged ? The guy is a tax dodging bufoon - G-d forbid people vote for him next week ! | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? Green Party leader Zack Polanski said recently that criticism of the Israeli state and antisemitism are incorrectly conflated and moreover "I think as a Jewish community, we need to come together to recognize that when we call that anti-Semitic, we are making ourselves as Jewish people less safe." Perhaps he has a point? " He’s absolutely right. It’s not a contrary position to support the need for a Jewish homeland and wish for suffering in the region to end, whilst also pointing out that Netanyahu and the Israeli state is *one* of the problems. | |||
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" War in gaza - lets not forget what started it - What started it? " Now I know you are taking the p - Have a fab day | |||
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" War in gaza - lets not forget what started it - What started it? Now I know you are taking the p - Have a fab day " No go on, what started it and when? | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? nope I don't what I do think is the anti semites on here ain't got the balls to do it out in the open as it may smear there anti racism flag waving now toddle off babushka Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. " I dont have to you out yourself daily | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? nope I don't what I do think is the anti semites on here ain't got the balls to do it out in the open as it may smear there anti racism flag waving now toddle off babushka Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. I dont have to you out yourself daily" You either know I’m right, or you’re too cowardly to say it. Makes no odds either way. Have a great day, mate | |||
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"I notice the usual cohort are busy laying down the semantics and excuses to deflect all possible reasons this happened into the lap of Israel. " Who are ‘the usual cohort’? Because if you’re including me in that I’m gonna ask you to back it up with some statements that I’ve made in their thread  | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . " How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 " anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference | |||
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"I notice the usual cohort are busy laying down the semantics and excuses to deflect all possible reasons this happened into the lap of Israel. Who are ‘the usual cohort’? Because if you’re including me in that I’m gonna ask you to back it up with some statements that I’ve made in their thread "The basic construct of the cohort is in the sentence you have quoted. I’m describing those who display those certain attributes. I’m not going to start deciding who is or isn’t a member, that would be both subjective and time consuming. And, believe it or not, my observations reach considerably further than the walled garden of this forum. | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? nope I don't what I do think is the anti semites on here ain't got the balls to do it out in the open as it may smear there anti racism flag waving now toddle off babushka Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. I dont have to you out yourself daily You either know I’m right, or you’re too cowardly to say it. Makes no odds either way. Have a great day, mate " not your mate and do you think im gona get myself banned of here lol been on fabs since you were in school now jog on heinrich | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference" So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? | |||
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"Wow reading some if the comments on here. Akex jones comes out with more believable bollox than some of you batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So Israel always tell the truth? I really don’t think so. You could say they have made a rod for their own back if you like. no they dont always tell the truth. Bit like ours and most other goverments but some peoples jew hate is barley concealed on here. Like i said batshit crazy conspiracy theorists So predictable, nothing to do with ‘hating Jews’. More to do with disliking the current Israeli governing coalition & its policies (as well as its bullshit) This notion that criticising Israel equates to hating Jews is fucking odious. Netanyahu is a war-mongering demagogue who hopefully one day see the inside of a cell. Not because I hate Jews, but because his actions have prolonged and exacerbated the suffering in his own nation (and others) you keep telling yourself that heinrich Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? nope I don't what I do think is the anti semites on here ain't got the balls to do it out in the open as it may smear there anti racism flag waving now toddle off babushka Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. I dont have to you out yourself daily You either know I’m right, or you’re too cowardly to say it. Makes no odds either way. Have a great day, mate not your mate and do you think im gona get myself banned of here lol been on fabs since you were in school now jog on heinrich" Mate, if I’ve said anything antisemitic, you can’t get banned for calling me an antisemite. So either do it and back it up, or admit that I’ve said nothing of the sort, good lad | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza" Children aren’t innocents? Really? | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference" Ditto with anti semitic, at least admit that you hate Muslims, who did you blame before their religion was founded? | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza" But you’ve now admitted that contrary to your previous statement “anti islamist not anti Islamic” - you now would have us believe that there are ‘no innocents in Gaza’ You’re adopting two contrary positions there, friend. | |||
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" Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. " Just for the avoidance of doubt: it is highly unlikely that you, personally, are at all consciously antisemitic. But as we learn in corporate DEI training, we sometimes bring cultural blind spots, despite our best intentions. All of us do. Right now, the general Western left wing does have some blind spots rooted in antisemitism, especially ones based on a Middle Eastern narrative (e.g. Israelis are mostly Eastern Europeans with no historic ties to Israel), which fosters a toxic environment to some Jews. As a person, you seem to have strong morals and object to injustice. You would probably intervene if you saw a Jew being attacked. But that doesn't make you always right or preclude blind spots. | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza Children aren’t innocents? Really? " not if they were out cheering with there excuse for parents no.u do realise they are taught jewhate as soon as they start school.so no innocents.why do you think no other neighbouring Muslim countrys have come to there aid.its because they want nothing to do with any of them | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza But you’ve now admitted that contrary to your previous statement “anti islamist not anti Islamic” - you now would have us believe that there are ‘no innocents in Gaza’ You’re adopting two contrary positions there, friend." no I'm not.gazans want jews eradicated so no innocents.funnily enough plenty of muslim countrys dont | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza Children aren’t innocents? Really? not if they were out cheering with there excuse for parents no.u do realise they are taught jewhate as soon as they start school.so no innocents.why do you think no other neighbouring Muslim countrys have come to there aid.its because they want nothing to do with any of them" No innocents, you actually doubled down on it. Babies and children man. No innocents? That’s actually one of the sickest things I’ve seen on this forum. I pity you, dude. Find help. | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza" An oppressed people will resort to desperate measures. Moreover violence begets violence and just passes through the generations. How would you feel if your parents, wife and children were burned alive under the rubble? | |||
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" Don’t shy away, mucker. Say it, call me it if you think it. Just for the avoidance of doubt: it is highly unlikely that you, personally, are at all consciously antisemitic. But as we learn in corporate DEI training, we sometimes bring cultural blind spots, despite our best intentions. All of us do. Right now, the general Western left wing does have some blind spots rooted in antisemitism, especially ones based on a Middle Eastern narrative (e.g. Israelis are mostly Eastern Europeans with no historic ties to Israel), which fosters a toxic environment to some Jews. As a person, you seem to have strong morals and object to injustice. You would probably intervene if you saw a Jew being attacked. But that doesn't make you always right or preclude blind spots." No you’re quite right - it’s important that we recognise our own inherent biases, and I appreciate your words - I would step in if I saw anyone being attacked physically or verbally. Religious nonsense means nothing to me whichever ‘brand’ it happens to be. If my thoughts on Netanyahu or the state of Israel make a few idiots think I’m antisemitic then so be it, I can check my phraseology to see how that conclusion was drawn, but I know I’m not anti-Jew, I’m anti-suffering. | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza Children aren’t innocents? Really? not if they were out cheering with there excuse for parents no.u do realise they are taught jewhate as soon as they start school.so no innocents.why do you think no other neighbouring Muslim countrys have come to there aid.its because they want nothing to do with any of them" Interesting. Where do we draw the line? Palestinian babies? | |||
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" An oppressed people will resort to desperate measures. Moreover violence begets violence and just passes through the generations. How would you feel if your parents, wife and children were burned alive under the rubble?" No winners here. The next generations of freedom fighters are already bourne | |||
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" An oppressed people will resort to desperate measures. Moreover violence begets violence and just passes through the generations. How would you feel if your parents, wife and children were burned alive under the rubble? No winners here. The next generations of freedom fighters are already bourne " This is the sad thing, same as we saw in NI. | |||
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"I notice the usual cohort are busy laying down the semantics and excuses to deflect all possible reasons this happened into the lap of Israel. Who are ‘the usual cohort’? Because if you’re including me in that I’m gonna ask you to back it up with some statements that I’ve made in their thread
The basic construct of the cohort is in the sentence you have quoted. I’m describing those who display those certain attributes.
I’m not going to start deciding who is or isn’t a member, that would be both subjective and time consuming. And, believe it or not, my observations reach considerably further than the walled garden of this forum."So it was a generic statement aimed at nobody. Based upon nothing objective. Thanks | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? because the Palestinians people voted islamists in for there leaders and palestinians were on the streets singing and dancing as they brought there hostages back there are no innocents in gaza Children aren’t innocents? Really? not if they were out cheering with there excuse for parents no.u do realise they are taught jewhate as soon as they start school.so no innocents.why do you think no other neighbouring Muslim countrys have come to there aid.its because they want nothing to do with any of them No innocents, you actually doubled down on it. Babies and children man. No innocents? That’s actually one of the sickest things I’ve seen on this forum. I pity you, dude. Find help. " lol OK heinrich | |||
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"I notice the usual cohort are busy laying down the semantics and excuses to deflect all possible reasons this happened into the lap of Israel. Who are ‘the usual cohort’? Because if you’re including me in that I’m gonna ask you to back it up with some statements that I’ve made in their thread
The basic construct of the cohort is in the sentence you have quoted. I’m describing those who display those certain attributes.
I’m not going to start deciding who is or isn’t a member, that would be both subjective and time consuming. And, believe it or not, my observations reach considerably further than the walled garden of this forum.
So it was a generic statement aimed at nobody. Based upon nothing objective. Thanks "Do you see the same groups of users across the internet and here post highly toxic and speculative content whenever Israel is mentioned in the news? Do you think referring to them as a cohort is incorrect? I'm actually confused by your replies, it is "you" that put yourself into the argument, why? | |||
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"I notice the usual cohort are busy laying down the semantics and excuses to deflect all possible reasons this happened into the lap of Israel. Who are ‘the usual cohort’? Because if you’re including me in that I’m gonna ask you to back it up with some statements that I’ve made in their thread
The basic construct of the cohort is in the sentence you have quoted. I’m describing those who display those certain attributes.
I’m not going to start deciding who is or isn’t a member, that would be both subjective and time consuming. And, believe it or not, my observations reach considerably further than the walled garden of this forum.
So it was a generic statement aimed at nobody. Based upon nothing objective. Thanks
Do you see the same groups of users across the internet and here post highly toxic and speculative content whenever Israel is mentioned in the news? Do you think referring to them as a cohort is incorrect? I'm actually confused by your replies, it is "you" that put yourself into the argument, why?"You talk as if pro Israelis don’t do the same across the internet. | |||
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"I’m not sure saying it is anti-Semitic to criticise a government and military for killing innocent children, has quite the effect the accuser thinks." It’s not, but it’s a shame that a few more on here aren’t just pro-peace rather than pro-hamas/palestine.  | |||
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"I’m not sure saying it is anti-Semitic to criticise a government and military for killing innocent children, has quite the effect the accuser thinks. It’s not, but it’s a shame that a few more on here aren’t just pro-peace rather than pro-hamas/palestine. "Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? | |||
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" Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? " If it were possible to go back 2-3 years (possible but time consuming), there were a few people here cheering the October 7 attacks, giving either justifications or at least apologists for Hamas. Including two outright Islamists (no longer on site). | |||
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"I wonder if there was no religion no politics would every get on a bit better..." We'd find something else, like football or money. | |||
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"I wonder if there was no religion no politics would every get on a bit better... We'd find something else, like football or money." true I love a bit of football banter though | |||
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"I always think of a quote from a film which explains the futility of aggression. "When one man says to another, 'I know what let's do today, let's play the war game'... everybody dies"" You really should come up with a better quote. There's never been a war where everyone died. I can't even think of a war where all of the losing side died. | |||
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"I’m not sure saying it is anti-Semitic to criticise a government and military for killing innocent children, has quite the effect the accuser thinks. It’s not, but it’s a shame that a few more on here aren’t just pro-peace rather than pro-hamas/palestine.
Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? "The site took down many threads which contained material that breached the laws on potentially supported prescribed organisations, supported islamaphobia, supported antisemitism or simply mentioned activities that breached the t&c's of what is ostensibly a swingers' site. | |||
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" Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? If it were possible to go back 2-3 years (possible but time consuming), there were a few people here cheering the October 7 attacks, giving either justifications or at least apologists for Hamas. Including two outright Islamists (no longer on site)." As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops | |||
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"Do you think criticism of Isreal is antisemitism? " Criticism of the actions / policies of Israel is not antisemitic. Calling for the dismantling of Israel, calling it "settler colonial", denying that Jews are of Judean ancestry, comparing Israel's actions with those of the Nazis, or keeping a unique focus that extends beyond that you'd give other countries, however... The crossover is that, in pretty much every online debate about Israel, there will be someone who defines Zionism – a Jewish emancipation movement – as uniquely monstrous. | |||
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"As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive" No. A very small number of friendly fire incidents – that could also have been avoided had Hamas not started a war. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000" You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 | |||
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" As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops " Your issue with Jews seems to go back centuries (well before the current Arab/Israeli conflict), since your previous posts have referred to a justification for digital persecution. What is it about them throughout history that makes you dislike them and find fault with them through the ages? Is it genetics or the religion or both? | |||
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"As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directiveNo. A very small number of friendly fire incidents – that could also have been avoided had Hamas not started a war. " Do you want to address the rest of my comments, when will Jews be satisfied, when you have achieved the Greater Israel objective? | |||
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"I just struggle sometimes to understand why Jews always seem to have of lots of different countries that wish them harm" When multiple societies attack a minority group, it reflects the systemic flaws, anxieties, and political convenience of those societies, rather than a fault with the victims. That's the simple answer, but I suspect this was motivated by prejudice rather than a willingness to actually learn. | |||
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"Do you want to address the rest of my comments, when will Jews be satisfied, when you have achieved the Greater Israel objective?" That's a conspiracy theory. | |||
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" As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops Your issue with Jews seems to go back centuries (well before the current Arab/Israeli conflict), since your previous posts have referred to a justification for digital persecution. What is it about them throughout history that makes you dislike them and find fault with them through the ages? Is it genetics or the religion or both?" I have addressed my interest in why Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, but I will explain it again, you can thank my Jewish religious education teacher, she had given a lesson on a order from God to completely eradicate another tribe, I was 13 at the time and had been reading books on the holocaust, it was the late 1970's at the time, so I questioned her on why she was trying to teach me that genocide was ok if Jews committed it, but I was supposed to have empathy for Jews lost in the holocaust, she didn't like me questioning crimes committed by Jews and threw me out of the class, that itself sent me on a quest to understand why Jews had been persecuted by hundreds of different countries over the thousands of years, so you can thank her, today the world is connected and I can check on multiple media about the war crimes committed by Jews today, or are you a genocide denial Jew?,if I can give you a deeper insight then please let me know | |||
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"Do you want to address the rest of my comments, when will Jews be satisfied, when you have achieved the Greater Israel objective? That's a conspiracy theory." Please do not insult my intelligence, the badge that the idf wear has the Greater Israel expansion on it, or do you deny that aswell 🤔 | |||
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"I'm more concerned how passengers broke into the cabin to save the day. Post 2001, aren't cabins supposed to be hijack proof? Clearly the spare key left under a plant pot. Exactly and all in the time it took for the plane to drop thousands of feet and just happened to be spare pilots to take control of a plane in free fall? You seem to be suggesting something sinister... Would be interested to hear your theory fleshed out? Don't be silly - do not engage eith anti-semitic scum . How about the anti Islamic scum 🤔 anti islamist not anti Islamic but i doubt a whopper like you knows the difference So you accept that not all Muslims are extremist Islamists, that’s good. Why do people who support Palestine and criticise the state of Isreal get accused of being against all Jews then? " Exactly this plus a few Jewish people I've worked with, just as horrified by Israeli actions as I am | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄" Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 " Holocaust denial is not a good look. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 " Go out and sort your council and your rubbish and let the grown ups debate how to eradicate scum that no arab country wants - | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. " We certainly have something we agree on here. Unbelievable comments.. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Go out and sort your council and your rubbish and let the grown ups debate how to eradicate scum that no arab country wants - " Nor is supporting a genocide. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. " Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews? | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews?" yeah, I’m done with your antisemitism. | |||
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"Please do not insult my intelligence, the badge that the idf wear has the Greater Israel expansion on it, or do you deny that aswell 🤔 " A fucking shoulder patch – with no clear indication that it's even on an IDF soldier's uniform. That's not evidence of anything. Even if not a mockup or fake, unofficial patches are banned and do not reflect any wider state policy. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Go out and sort your council and your rubbish and let the grown ups debate how to eradicate scum that no arab country wants - " I seem to have hit a nerve, and I think that it's the Jews that are the scum no one has wanted worldwide since biblical times, with regards to sorting out the rubbish, that's what I pay my council tax for you muppet, which I pay to Solihull council and not Birmingham council, my bins were emptied this morning, you will be pleased to hear 😀 | |||
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"the ongoing genocide in Gaza" Is this "genocide" in the room with us now? 🧐 | |||
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"the ongoing genocide in GazaIs this "genocide" in the room with us now? 🧐" No, it’s busy murdering children. Which I’m sure delights you. | |||
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" Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? If it were possible to go back 2-3 years (possible but time consuming), there were a few people here cheering the October 7 attacks, giving either justifications or at least apologists for Hamas. Including two outright Islamists (no longer on site). As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops " Reported. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews? yeah, I’m done with your antisemitism." My heart is breaking, how do you think that I perceive your islamaphobic rhetoric? | |||
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"the ongoing genocide in GazaIs this "genocide" in the room with us now? 🧐 No, it’s busy murdering children. Which I’m sure delights you." At the current rate of death, it would take 80+ years to kill everyone in Gaza – and that's without accounting for a growing population. You're as bad as the antisemite you're trying to call out. 🙄 | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. " Indeed not. What about genocide denial? Is that a bad look too? | |||
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"Indeed not. What about genocide denial? Is that a bad look too? " The ICJ has not reached a verdict on the genocide case, and until it is, then it should be "innocent until proven guilty". Unless Israel has a different set of rules, of course? 🤔 | |||
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" Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? If it were possible to go back 2-3 years (possible but time consuming), there were a few people here cheering the October 7 attacks, giving either justifications or at least apologists for Hamas. Including two outright Islamists (no longer on site). As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops Reported. " When you can argue with me then come back, report me for stating facts and figures  | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews? yeah, I’m done with your antisemitism. My heart is breaking, how do you think that I perceive your islamaphobic rhetoric?" What Islamophobic rhetoric? | |||
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"the ongoing genocide in GazaIs this "genocide" in the room with us now? 🧐 No, it’s busy murdering children. Which I’m sure delights you. At the current rate of death, it would take 80+ years to kill everyone in Gaza – and that's without accounting for a growing population. You're as bad as the antisemite you're trying to call out. 🙄" Whatever helps you sleep at night. | |||
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"Indeed not. What about genocide denial? Is that a bad look too? The ICJ has not reached a verdict on the genocide case, and until it is, then it should be "innocent until proven guilty". Unless Israel has a different set of rules, of course? 🤔" Yes let's await the ICJ verdict, and I'm all for a level playing field of justice where no state enjoys special dispensations. | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Go out and sort your council and your rubbish and let the grown ups debate how to eradicate scum that no arab country wants - Nor is supporting a genocide." Blimy - if they wanted to do that do you honestly think it would take Israel three years to remove the stain on the world ? | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews? yeah, I’m done with your antisemitism. My heart is breaking, how do you think that I perceive your islamaphobic rhetoric?" Sorry wrong person | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Go out and sort your council and your rubbish and let the grown ups debate how to eradicate scum that no arab country wants - I seem to have hit a nerve, and I think that it's the Jews that are the scum no one has wanted worldwide since biblical times, with regards to sorting out the rubbish, that's what I pay my council tax for you muppet, which I pay to Solihull council and not Birmingham council, my bins were emptied this morning, you will be pleased to hear 😀 " Well done you - now go and play with the pally mob - and when the scum PM f-cks off and we have some proper leadership this country may return to some semblance of normality - Riots and civil war is coming - you must be do proud - well done you . | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews? yeah, I’m done with your antisemitism. My heart is breaking, how do you think that I perceive your islamaphobic rhetoric?" Bothered ? You carry on - | |||
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"Indeed not. What about genocide denial? Is that a bad look too? The ICJ has not reached a verdict on the genocide case, and until it is, then it should be "innocent until proven guilty". Unless Israel has a different set of rules, of course? 🤔" Who gives a f-ck about the IJC - another bent institution like the UN - like out judiciary - two tier scum . | |||
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" Blimy - if they wanted to do that do you honestly think it would take Israel three years to remove the stain on the world ? " What stain exactly? Who exactly are you referring to as a stain? | |||
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"Whatever helps you sleep at night." You've called out antisemitism, and then repeated an antisemitic blood-libel about killing children. The irony would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Look up Horseshoe Theory; it applies. | |||
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" Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? If it were possible to go back 2-3 years (possible but time consuming), there were a few people here cheering the October 7 attacks, giving either justifications or at least apologists for Hamas. Including two outright Islamists (no longer on site). As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops Reported. When you can argue with me then come back, report me for stating facts and figures
I have been arguing for literally years about the behaviour of Netanyahu, the state of Israel and the IDF. Not once have I ever resorted to antisemitism and conspiracy theory.
Get help. "If the scum laid down their arms there would be peace . If Israel laid down their arms there would be no Israel . Enjoy your evening . | |||
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"how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000 You sound like you failed the entry exam for the master-race club. 🙄 Or maybe it's a figure that Jews have used for over a hundred years 🤔 Holocaust denial is not a good look. Where is the denial, I have quoted that in the late 70's, early 1980's I read every book I could on the holocaust, I know that it happened, maybe the 6,000,000 figure is a figure that Jews have used since the latter years of the 1890's,how many Jews died because they were betrayed by other Jews? yeah, I’m done with your antisemitism. My heart is breaking, how do you think that I perceive your islamaphobic rhetoric? Bothered ? You carry on - " And that's exactly why I have made it my quest to understand why Jews don't like being questioned, full circle to my RE teacher and she didn't like being asked awkward questions 🙃 | |||
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" Who here is pro hamas? Can you point out some quotes to back that up? If it were possible to go back 2-3 years (possible but time consuming), there were a few people here cheering the October 7 attacks, giving either justifications or at least apologists for Hamas. Including two outright Islamists (no longer on site). As horrific as the October 7th attack was 1,200 people killed, probably a good percentage by the idf hannibal directive, 1,400 Palestinians have died since the October ceasefire and 74,000 killed since October 7th 2023,how many more have to die to satisfy the Jews, maybe they will only be satisfied when they hit the magical figure of 6,000,000,although if you add all the people killed since 1948 they have probably already exceeded that figure and you wonder why the killing never stops Reported. When you can argue with me then come back, report me for stating facts and figures
I have been arguing for literally years about the behaviour of Netanyahu, the state of Israel and the IDF. Not once have I ever resorted to antisemitism and conspiracy theory.
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" Blimy - if they wanted to do that do you honestly think it would take Israel three years to remove the stain on the world ? What stain exactly? Who exactly are you referring to as a stain? " Go figure - and ask all the arab states - does not fit your narrative - the middle east has moved on . We are now importing their crap - well done you . You must be so proud . | |||
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" Blimy - if they wanted to do that do you honestly think it would take Israel three years to remove the stain on the world ? What stain exactly? Who exactly are you referring to as a stain? Go figure - and ask all the arab states - does not fit your narrative - the middle east has moved on . We are now importing their crap - well done you . You must be so proud ." No I want you to explain who the stain are? | |||
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"Who gives a f-ck about the IJC - another bent institution like the UN - like out judiciary - two tier scum . " In principle, I agree but effectively (and in the absence of any ruling) there is no justification in invoking the term "genocide" apart from trying to hurt Jews. However, the ICJ is unlikely to find a guilty verdict – especially not against the entire state – unless some new evidence emerges that we're yet to discover. | |||
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"Whatever helps you sleep at night. You've called out antisemitism, and then repeated an antisemitic blood-libel about killing children. The irony would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Look up Horseshoe Theory; it applies." The IDF has been murdering children in Gaza for almost 3 years, that’s not blood libel, it’s fact. | |||
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"The IDF has been murdering children in Gaza for almost 3 years, that’s not blood libel, it’s fact." Let's for a moment disregard child soldiers (under 18) who fight for Hamas. The IDF has been engaged in a difficult operation in a densely populated area, against a terrorist group that has control of this area, that additionally uses its citizens as 'martyrs'. Hamas has done nothing to protect the citizens from the consequence of the war they started – quite the opposite in fact. Children dying in wars is tragic and it happens – but implying the IDF is deliberately targeting (i.e. murdering) them is just a modern twist on the old blood-libel trope. | |||
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"The IDF has been murdering children in Gaza for almost 3 years, that’s not blood libel, it’s fact. Let's for a moment disregard child soldiers (under 18) who fight for Hamas. The IDF has been engaged in a difficult operation in a densely populated area, against a terrorist group that has control of this area, that additionally uses its citizens as 'martyrs'. Hamas has done nothing to protect the citizens from the consequence of the war they started – quite the opposite in fact. Children dying in wars is tragic and it happens – but implying the IDF is deliberately targeting (i.e. murdering) them is just a modern twist on the old blood-libel trope." Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. You can defend the fascist government of an apartheid state all you like, but it doesn’t alter the facts. | |||
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" What is it about them throughout history that makes you dislike them and find fault with them through the ages? Is it genetics or the religion or both? I have addressed my interest in why Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, but I will explain it again, you can thank my Jewish religious education teacher, she had given a lesson on a order from God to completely eradicate another tribe, I was 13 at the time and had been reading books on the holocaust, it was the late 1970's at the time, so I questioned her on why she was trying to teach me that genocide was ok if Jews committed it, but I was supposed to have empathy for Jews lost in the holocaust, she didn't like me questioning crimes committed by Jews and threw me out of the class... " So it's religious. Two questions then: 1. Do you find the same fault with all religious that treat the Jewish Bible as holy and god's word? 2. Do you believe that specific section had anything to do with subsequent persecution through the centuries, or justifies it? ...or was it simply an issue with that individual teacher that you're projecting onto Jews as a whole? " ...that itself sent me on a quest to understand why Jews had been persecuted by hundreds of different countries over the thousands of years, so you can thank her, today the world is connected and I can check on multiple media about the war crimes committed by Jews today, or are you a genocide denial Jew?,if I can give you a deeper insight then please let me know " Yes. What did you find that the Jews did over the past 3000 years since that genocidal command that was so egregious? Also, do you believe that the Bible reflected that story accurately and dislike Jews because of it? | |||
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"Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. You can defend the fascist government of an apartheid state all you like, but it doesn’t alter the facts." The usual slogans 🤔 Apartheid State – umm, nope, ask any of the Arabs in the Knesset Fascist government - by definition, not even close. Child murder – as mentioned above. You're talking shite and you know it and you have no moral right to posture about antisemitism while spreading your own version of hate. | |||
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"Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. You can defend the fascist government of an apartheid state all you like, but it doesn’t alter the facts. The usual slogans 🤔 Apartheid State – umm, nope, ask any of the Arabs in the Knesset Fascist government - by definition, not even close. Child murder – as mentioned above. You're talking shite and you know it and you have no moral right to posture about antisemitism while spreading your own version of hate." You can do all the mental gymnastics you like, but just as I’m not going to engage with a holocaust denier, I’m not going to engage with someone who defends the murder of children. | |||
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"Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. You can defend the fascist government of an apartheid state all you like, but it doesn’t alter the facts. The usual slogans 🤔 Apartheid State – umm, nope, ask any of the Arabs in the Knesset Fascist government - by definition, not even close. Child murder – as mentioned above. You're talking shite and you know it and you have no moral right to posture about antisemitism while spreading your own version of hate. You can do all the mental gymnastics you like, but just as I’m not going to engage with a holocaust denier, I’m not going to engage with someone who defends the murder of children. " As far as I’m concerned, you’re the same person in two different bodies. | |||
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"You can do all the mental gymnastics you like, but just as I’m not going to engage with a holocaust denier, I’m not going to engage with someone who defends the murder of children." The Holocaust was the systemic targetting of Jews in Nazi Europe. Broader atrocities count when speaking of WW2, but Jews (and maybe Roma) were the sole group targeted for complete extermination. The IHRA Working Definition of Antisemitism states that "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis" is a manifestation of antisemitism. By using the word "holocaust" like this, you are engaging in Holocaust inversion and antisemitic by definition. | |||
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"The IDF has been murdering children in Gaza for almost 3 years, that’s not blood libel, it’s fact. Let's for a moment disregard child soldiers (under 18) who fight for Hamas. The IDF has been engaged in a difficult operation in a densely populated area, against a terrorist group that has control of this area, that additionally uses its citizens as 'martyrs'. Hamas has done nothing to protect the citizens from the consequence of the war they started – quite the opposite in fact. Children dying in wars is tragic and it happens – but implying the IDF is deliberately targeting (i.e. murdering) them is just a modern twist on the old blood-libel trope." With nearly two million people displaced (‘many several times) the densely populated areas in Gaza and ‘safe zones’ are a turkey shoot for sophisticated Israeli ordnance. | |||
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"With nearly two million people displaced (‘many several times) the densely populated areas in Gaza and ‘safe zones’ are a turkey shoot for sophisticated Israeli ordnance. " The points about asymmetrical war seem very strange. On the hijacked flight, one hijacker was taken out by multiple passengers – should we treat that as unfair and 'asymmetrical' too? | |||
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"With nearly two million people displaced (‘many several times) the densely populated areas in Gaza and ‘safe zones’ are a turkey shoot for sophisticated Israeli ordnance. The points about asymmetrical war seem very strange. On the hijacked flight, one hijacker was taken out by multiple passengers – should we treat that as unfair and 'asymmetrical' too?" Guardian reporting on this and Netanyahu today are claiming Israeli passengers intervened to stop the attack on Wednesday. It was not a Jewish pilot attempting to crash a plane full of Islamic passengers. | |||
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"Guardian reporting on this and Netanyahu today are claiming Israeli passengers intervened to stop the attack on Wednesday. It was not a Jewish pilot attempting to crash a plane full of Islamic passengers. " Exactly. One rogue Islamist nutjob tried to kill a plane full of Israelis. A larger, more powerful group of Israelis took him down and landed the plane. The idea that Palestinians deserve a symmetrical response is analogous to saying that the above was unfair. | |||
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" Nor is supporting a genocide. ... Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale." Can you name any genocide in history where the perpetrator had every opportunity and means to eradicate a population but chose not to? Instead sending in their own troops at great risk and losses instead? If you want to know what real genocide would look like, imagine that Hamas or Nazis had over Jews Israel's complete military dominance over Palestinians. You can call it oppression, inhumane, whatever... But it isn't genocide. Using the term industrial scale is disingenuous and just plain wrong. Industrial scale generally means the deliberate ramping up of a process to increase productivity. Like building gas chambers and investing in research into methods of killing, in order to kill better. You might conclude that the IDF or IAF acted with disregard and it's possible that there were individual acts that could count as murder, but you have zero evidence that this was performed on an industrial scale, because no such evidence exists, because it is false. | |||
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" Apartheid State – umm, nope, ask any of the Arabs in the Knesset " The latest laws came with the knesset approvin a law that stipulating the deportation of the entire families of anyonr who carry out operations against Israelis, even children. Also a law that was celebrated by drinking champagne was the law that imprisons Israelis for murder of israelis but the death penalty for a Palestinian.. So I would say a fair assesment that Israel is apartheid | |||
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" Nor is supporting a genocide. ... Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. Can you name any genocide in history where the perpetrator had every opportunity and means to eradicate a population but chose not to? Instead sending in their own troops at great risk and losses instead? If you want to know what real genocide would look like, imagine that Hamas or Nazis had over Jews Israel's complete military dominance over Palestinians. You can call it oppression, inhumane, whatever... But it isn't genocide. Using the term industrial scale is disingenuous and just plain wrong. Industrial scale generally means the deliberate ramping up of a process to increase productivity. Like building gas chambers and investing in research into methods of killing, in order to kill better. You might conclude that the IDF or IAF acted with disregard and it's possible that there were individual acts that could count as murder, but you have zero evidence that this was performed on an industrial scale, because no such evidence exists, because it is false." The IDF are using drones for surveillance that also loiter the area and witness statements from a British doctor that these drones snipe children and also carry bombs. | |||
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"Whatever helps you sleep at night. You've called out antisemitism, and then repeated an antisemitic blood-libel about killing children. The irony would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Look up Horseshoe Theory; it applies. The IDF has been murdering children in Gaza for almost 3 years, that’s not blood libel, it’s fact." Another one on drugs - Ever heard of human shields ? No thought not - now go play on the local M road . | |||
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"The latest laws came with the knesset approvin a law that stipulating the deportation of the entire families of anyonr who carry out operations against Israelis, even children. Also a law that was celebrated by drinking champagne was the law that imprisons Israelis for murder of israelis but the death penalty for a Palestinian.. So I would say a fair assesment that Israel is apartheid " These laws apply to anyone committing acts of terrorism. It's just a sad fact that terrorist attacks are always carried out by Arabs attacking Jews. It's fairly simple – don't be a terrorist and there won't be any problems. The closest to apartheid is the prohibition of Jewish access to the Al Aqsa compound, and the risks to Jews entering areas A and B of Judea and Samaria. | |||
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"With nearly two million people displaced (‘many several times) the densely populated areas in Gaza and ‘safe zones’ are a turkey shoot for sophisticated Israeli ordnance. The points about asymmetrical war seem very strange. On the hijacked flight, one hijacker was taken out by multiple passengers – should we treat that as unfair and 'asymmetrical' too? Guardian reporting on this and Netanyahu today are claiming Israeli passengers intervened to stop the attack on Wednesday. It was not a Jewish pilot attempting to crash a plane full of Islamic passengers. " And your point is ? | |||
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"witness statements from a British doctor that these drones snipe children and also carry bombs." He was not a witness; he was reporting disputed third-party accounts. | |||
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" Nor is supporting a genocide. ... Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. Can you name any genocide in history where the perpetrator had every opportunity and means to eradicate a population but chose not to? Instead sending in their own troops at great risk and losses instead? If you want to know what real genocide would look like, imagine that Hamas or Nazis had over Jews Israel's complete military dominance over Palestinians. You can call it oppression, inhumane, whatever... But it isn't genocide. Using the term industrial scale is disingenuous and just plain wrong. Industrial scale generally means the deliberate ramping up of a process to increase productivity. Like building gas chambers and investing in research into methods of killing, in order to kill better. You might conclude that the IDF or IAF acted with disregard and it's possible that there were individual acts that could count as murder, but you have zero evidence that this was performed on an industrial scale, because no such evidence exists, because it is false. The IDF are using drones for surveillance that also loiter the area and witness statements from a British doctor that these drones snipe children and also carry bombs. " Ohhhh a convenient british doctor - like the red cross and other aid organisations that are just so transparent . | |||
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" What is it about them throughout history that makes you dislike them and find fault with them through the ages? Is it genetics or the religion or both? I have addressed my interest in why Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, but I will explain it again, you can thank my Jewish religious education teacher, she had given a lesson on a order from God to completely eradicate another tribe, I was 13 at the time and had been reading books on the holocaust, it was the late 1970's at the time, so I questioned her on why she was trying to teach me that genocide was ok if Jews committed it, but I was supposed to have empathy for Jews lost in the holocaust, she didn't like me questioning crimes committed by Jews and threw me out of the class... So it's religious. Two questions then: 1. Do you find the same fault with all religious that treat the Jewish Bible as holy and god's word? 2. Do you believe that specific section had anything to do with subsequent persecution through the centuries, or justifies it? ...or was it simply an issue with that individual teacher that you're projecting onto Jews as a whole? ...that itself sent me on a quest to understand why Jews had been persecuted by hundreds of different countries over the thousands of years, so you can thank her, today the world is connected and I can check on multiple media about the war crimes committed by Jews today, or are you a genocide denial Jew?,if I can give you a deeper insight then please let me know Yes. What did you find that the Jews did over the past 3000 years since that genocidal command that was so egregious? Also, do you believe that the Bible reflected that story accurately and dislike Jews because of it?" 1: yes with all religions, is not one of the commandments thou shall not kill, which was my initial argument with her, if God's word given to Moses forbidding killing others and to live in peace with your neighbours 2:I don't know if that particular section has anything to do with why others would persecute Jews, I can't answer for others, but she didn't like my view of why I should have empathy for a religion that lost people in the holocaust, which at the time I was reading anything available on the holocaust and until then had empathy for their loss, but then you start to learn how cruel other Jews were to their own people, read about Dr Rudolf Kastner, he was responsible for saving certain Jews, while giving up other Jews to the Nazis, then when he was part of the initial Israeli government and it became public knowledge, he was assassinated by Jews, why would the kapo lead their own people to the gas chambers, what did other countries do to stop the holocaust, British, Americans didn't want them. | |||
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"The latest laws came with the knesset approvin a law that stipulating the deportation of the entire families of anyonr who carry out operations against Israelis, even children. Also a law that was celebrated by drinking champagne was the law that imprisons Israelis for murder of israelis but the death penalty for a Palestinian.. So I would say a fair assesment that Israel is apartheid These laws apply to anyone committing acts of terrorism. It's just a sad fact that terrorist attacks are always carried out by Arabs attacking Jews. It's fairly simple – don't be a terrorist and there won't be any problems. The closest to apartheid is the prohibition of Jewish access to the Al Aqsa compound, and the risks to Jews entering areas A and B of Judea and Samaria." https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/04/israels-death-penalty-law-constitutes-discriminatory-regime-capital I know how you feel about the UN, the same UN set up to avert the horror of the Holocaust, and wars but there you are, such as it is. | |||
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" Nor is supporting a genocide. ... Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. Can you name any genocide in history where the perpetrator had every opportunity and means to eradicate a population but chose not to? Instead sending in their own troops at great risk and losses instead? If you want to know what real genocide would look like, imagine that Hamas or Nazis had over Jews Israel's complete military dominance over Palestinians. You can call it oppression, inhumane, whatever... But it isn't genocide. Using the term industrial scale is disingenuous and just plain wrong. Industrial scale generally means the deliberate ramping up of a process to increase productivity. Like building gas chambers and investing in research into methods of killing, in order to kill better. You might conclude that the IDF or IAF acted with disregard and it's possible that there were individual acts that could count as murder, but you have zero evidence that this was performed on an industrial scale, because no such evidence exists, because it is false. The IDF are using drones for surveillance that also loiter the area and witness statements from a British doctor that these drones snipe children and also carry bombs. Ohhhh a convenient british doctor - like the red cross and other aid organisations that are just so transparent . " Him and many others are/were actually there, and I trust their statements more than the likes of yourself. | |||
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"yes with all religions, is not one of the commandments thou shall not kill, which was my initial argument with her, if God's word given to Moses forbidding killing others and to live in peace with your neighbours " So you should hate Christians every but as much, right? " ...she didn't like my view of why I should have empathy for a religion that lost people in the holocaust, which at the time I was reading anything available on the holocaust and until then had empathy for their loss, but then you start to learn how cruel other Jews were to their own people, read about Dr Rudolf Kastner, he was responsible for saving certain Jews, while giving up other Jews to the Nazis, then when he was part of the initial Israeli government and it became public knowledge, he was assassinated by Jews, why would the kapo lead their own people to the gas chambers, what did other countries do to stop the holocaust, British, Americans didn't want them. " Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you read is 100% true and correct. You don't like all Jews because, in a very dark period of history, some Jews attempted to save themselves by collaborating in the persecution of other Jews? And somehow this tells us that they've always been a bad race and continue to be one? Just looking to understand the logic of your whole viewpoint. | |||
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"I actually agree with those concluding it’s not genocide. (Most) Israelis are too clever to fall into that trap, because they know the majority of the rest of the globe would more seriously consider ostracising / sanctioning them. Though the likes of Ben Gvir & Smotrich would probably plow on regardless. No, the Israelis just concentrate on making life as unbearable as possible for the Palestinians. They were doing it before October 7th & after Hamas struck their blow, it’s given the Israeli right wing the excuse to really turn the screw. I see Google Maps have recently updated their Gaza maps. There’s barely fuck all left." Fully agree with this.! | |||
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"https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/04/israels-death-penalty-law-constitutes-discriminatory-regime-capital I know how you feel about the UN, the same UN set up to avert the horror of the Holocaust, and wars but there you are, such as it is. " You only need to look at the named "experts" cited in this statement. 🙄 | |||
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" Nor is supporting a genocide. ... Children aren’t dying in a war, they are being murdered on an industrial scale. Can you name any genocide in history where the perpetrator had every opportunity and means to eradicate a population but chose not to? Instead sending in their own troops at great risk and losses instead? If you want to know what real genocide would look like, imagine that Hamas or Nazis had over Jews Israel's complete military dominance over Palestinians. You can call it oppression, inhumane, whatever... But it isn't genocide. Using the term industrial scale is disingenuous and just plain wrong. Industrial scale generally means the deliberate ramping up of a process to increase productivity. Like building gas chambers and investing in research into methods of killing, in order to kill better. You might conclude that the IDF or IAF acted with disregard and it's possible that there were individual acts that could count as murder, but you have zero evidence that this was performed on an industrial scale, because no such evidence exists, because it is false. The IDF are using drones for surveillance that also loiter the area and witness statements from a British doctor that these drones snipe children and also carry bombs. Ohhhh a convenient british doctor - like the red cross and other aid organisations that are just so transparent . " You haven't seen the footage of a ambulance being double tapped by Israeli drones, the school double tapped, 355 bullets in a 5 year old, the journalist killed, more than in all of the other wars combined, why does Israel not allow entry to Palestine? | |||
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"https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/04/israels-death-penalty-law-constitutes-discriminatory-regime-capital I know how you feel about the UN, the same UN set up to avert the horror of the Holocaust, and wars but there you are, such as it is. You only need to look at the named "experts" cited in this statement. 🙄" Are you saying the law described is inaccurate? Or are you just attacking those critiquing it? | |||
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"yes with all religions, is not one of the commandments thou shall not kill, which was my initial argument with her, if God's word given to Moses forbidding killing others and to live in peace with your neighbours So you should hate Christians every but as much, right? ...she didn't like my view of why I should have empathy for a religion that lost people in the holocaust, which at the time I was reading anything available on the holocaust and until then had empathy for their loss, but then you start to learn how cruel other Jews were to their own people, read about Dr Rudolf Kastner, he was responsible for saving certain Jews, while giving up other Jews to the Nazis, then when he was part of the initial Israeli government and it became public knowledge, he was assassinated by Jews, why would the kapo lead their own people to the gas chambers, what did other countries do to stop the holocaust, British, Americans didn't want them. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you read is 100% true and correct. You don't like all Jews because, in a very dark period of history, some Jews attempted to save themselves by collaborating in the persecution of other Jews? And somehow this tells us that they've always been a bad race and continue to be one? Just looking to understand the logic of your whole viewpoint." Yes the Christians have been no less guilty of killing in the name of God, the crimes of the catholic church, the crimes committed by religion in all regions of the world, I have lived in Africa and seen the damage done in the name of God, what was the comment scratched in one of the camps by a jew about the lack of a God,if he let the holocaust happen, but I'm supposed to believe that he promised land to one race of people?. I have tried to answer as honestly as I can, so I will ask you one question, why do you think that Jews have been persecuted and expelled from hundreds of different countries over the centuries, if you are barred from hundreds of different bar's, would you be the problem, or would every bar be anti-semitic? | |||
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" I know how you feel about the UN, the same UN set up to avert the horror of the Holocaust, and wars but there you are, such as it is. " The UN failed miserably in Rwanda, took three and a half years to send peacekeepers to Bosnia. In 2025, the USAID Inspector General reported that its own investigation found evidence connecting three current or former UNRWA employees to the October 7 attacks and 14 other current or former employees to Hamas | |||
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" I have tried to answer as honestly as I can, so I will ask you one question, why do you think that Jews have been persecuted and expelled from hundreds of different countries over the centuries, if you are barred from hundreds of different bar's, would you be the problem, or would every bar be anti-semitic?" Because cultures were at first appalled by monotheism. Then they wanted it for themselves, but wanted a monopoly on it and so wanted to eradicate the original. The existence of Jews is a thorn in the side of Islam, much as they were to Christianity in the Middle Ages. A reminder that the religions are a copy and the people they superseded cannot be allowed to thrive, or how is their religion superior? The cultures today that don't hate Jews are the polytheistic ones (like Hindus) and those who have transcended religion (atheists). Not, incidentally, atheists who lapsed from Abrahamic religions, who bring with them hangups about biblical religions. | |||
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"yes with all religions, is not one of the commandments thou shall not kill, which was my initial argument with her, if God's word given to Moses forbidding killing others and to live in peace with your neighbours So you should hate Christians every but as much, right? ...she didn't like my view of why I should have empathy for a religion that lost people in the holocaust, which at the time I was reading anything available on the holocaust and until then had empathy for their loss, but then you start to learn how cruel other Jews were to their own people, read about Dr Rudolf Kastner, he was responsible for saving certain Jews, while giving up other Jews to the Nazis, then when he was part of the initial Israeli government and it became public knowledge, he was assassinated by Jews, why would the kapo lead their own people to the gas chambers, what did other countries do to stop the holocaust, British, Americans didn't want them. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you read is 100% true and correct. You don't like all Jews because, in a very dark period of history, some Jews attempted to save themselves by collaborating in the persecution of other Jews? And somehow this tells us that they've always been a bad race and continue to be one? Just looking to understand the logic of your whole viewpoint. Yes the Christians have been no less guilty of killing in the name of God, the crimes of the catholic church, the crimes committed by religion in all regions of the world, I have lived in Africa and seen the damage done in the name of God, what was the comment scratched in one of the camps by a jew about the lack of a God,if he let the holocaust happen, but I'm supposed to believe that he promised land to one race of people?. I have tried to answer as honestly as I can, so I will ask you one question, why do you think that Jews have been persecuted and expelled from hundreds of different countries over the centuries, if you are barred from hundreds of different bar's, would you be the problem, or would every bar be anti-semitic?" I would say the Jewish people are amongst a group who've been persecuted in past. The disaster and tragedy is the holocaust has poisoned the Jews , effectively making the Zionist movement comparable to the nazis ideology and don't realise or acknowledge that. | |||
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" So you should hate Christians every but as much, right? ... Yes the Christians have been no less guilty of killing in the name of God, the crimes of the catholic church, the crimes committed by religion in all regions of the world, I have lived in Africa and seen the damage done in the name of God..." So why do you always seem to single out Jews and not Christians? You also seem to talk about Jews as a race, but Christianity as a religion? | |||
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" Are you saying the law described is inaccurate? Or are you just attacking those critiquing it?" The law is accurate, but the description of it as racist is ironic, because the perpetrators are predominantly Arab racists. If a Jew tries to destroy Israel the same law would apply to them, but they don't. | |||
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"yes with all religions, is not one of the commandments thou shall not kill, which was my initial argument with her, if God's word given to Moses forbidding killing others and to live in peace with your neighbours So you should hate Christians every but as much, right? ...she didn't like my view of why I should have empathy for a religion that lost people in the holocaust, which at the time I was reading anything available on the holocaust and until then had empathy for their loss, but then you start to learn how cruel other Jews were to their own people, read about Dr Rudolf Kastner, he was responsible for saving certain Jews, while giving up other Jews to the Nazis, then when he was part of the initial Israeli government and it became public knowledge, he was assassinated by Jews, why would the kapo lead their own people to the gas chambers, what did other countries do to stop the holocaust, British, Americans didn't want them. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you read is 100% true and correct. You don't like all Jews because, in a very dark period of history, some Jews attempted to save themselves by collaborating in the persecution of other Jews? And somehow this tells us that they've always been a bad race and continue to be one? Just looking to understand the logic of your whole viewpoint. Yes the Christians have been no less guilty of killing in the name of God, the crimes of the catholic church, the crimes committed by religion in all regions of the world, I have lived in Africa and seen the damage done in the name of God, what was the comment scratched in one of the camps by a jew about the lack of a God,if he let the holocaust happen, but I'm supposed to believe that he promised land to one race of people?. I have tried to answer as honestly as I can, so I will ask you one question, why do you think that Jews have been persecuted and expelled from hundreds of different countries over the centuries, if you are barred from hundreds of different bar's, would you be the problem, or would every bar be anti-semitic?" I would like to come in on this.. Learned antisemitism views shared between societies through word of mouth, does that sound familiar? Religious differences, restrictions on Jewish occupations and land ownership, does that sound familiar? Easy scapegoats during a countries crises, economic stereotypes and racial antisemitism, does that sound familiar? The history of Jewish persecution conveniently works against you, as you demonstrate how you have taken the persecution as a vehicle to persecute. | |||
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