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"Enjoy being born in the UK. Not everyone is so lucky." This ^ | |||
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"What is this thread about? Give it a minute It'll become clear...." I think it's about menus at restaurant where the writing is too small, really pisses me off too | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. " It is of course rage baiting. I’m just curious what the OP seeks to accomplish with it. | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. It is of course rage baiting. I’m just curious what the OP seeks to accomplish with it. " I’m more curious why this thread was moved to ‘Politics’ and not removed entirely by admin. | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. It is of course rage baiting. I’m just curious what the OP seeks to accomplish with it. " Freedom of speech! Are you not concerned that these signs are needed in the first place? | |||
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"This is not race baiting. Doesn't anyone else feel concerned that these signs have to put up in the first place?" You think that every foreigner that arrives here should already have a full knowledge of British customs, and be fully aware of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour? | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. " You did not have to enter this thread. You could scroll through to a post that does interest you! | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. It is of course rage baiting. I’m just curious what the OP seeks to accomplish with it. I’m more curious why this thread was moved to ‘Politics’ and not removed entirely by admin. " If you message admin and let them know all the topics you disapprove of, they'll go through the entire site and remove them for you.  | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. It is of course rage baiting. I’m just curious what the OP seeks to accomplish with it. I’m more curious why this thread was moved to ‘Politics’ and not removed entirely by admin. If you message admin and let them know all the topics you disapprove of, they'll go through the entire site and remove them for you. "This is exactly what I mean about creating discourse and arguments. I'm OUT | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. " So similar to when visiting UAE and similar countries where kissing is banned in public? Do they have signs up for foreigners showing two people kissing? Just curious... | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. So similar to when visiting UAE and similar countries where kissing is banned in public? Do they have signs up for foreigners showing two people kissing? Just curious..." No idea, I've never been | |||
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"Perhaps the most appropriate place to put this thread was in the politics section. And these thread and the likes of these threads start to become impossible to ignore when their seems to be similar threads, which are opened to create discourse, every other hour. Some of us simply want to find good connections, people to share good experiences with on here, the anger and bitterness that these post bring, do we not get enough in the real world. " This thread was put in the politics section about 10 mins ago | |||
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"This is not race baiting. Doesn't anyone else feel concerned that these signs have to put up in the first place? You think that every foreigner that arrives here should already have a full knowledge of British customs, and be fully aware of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour?" WALOB It is up to the individual in a foreign land to know what is legal/acceptable. If i were to go to Dubai for example, I'd know that kissing in public is not allowed. Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? | |||
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"This is not race baiting. Doesn't anyone else feel concerned that these signs have to put up in the first place? You think that every foreigner that arrives here should already have a full knowledge of British customs, and be fully aware of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour? WALOB It is up to the individual in a foreign land to know what is legal/acceptable. If i were to go to Dubai for example, I'd know that kissing in public is not allowed. Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable?" Well they do know now because there's a sign telling them. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable?" No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. | |||
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"Can we not just get back to the sex instead of all this race baiting, far-left and far-right, if you are with us then you are against us, Palestine v Israel. Can we not just have somewhere that we can just ask for a wank, tributes and try to connect with people we want to share some pleasure and making some great memories with. It is of course rage baiting. I’m just curious what the OP seeks to accomplish with it. I’m more curious why this thread was moved to ‘Politics’ and not removed entirely by admin. " definitely politics but no need to remove not abusive op is aloud to post these things. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign." In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune!" We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly "Legal routes for the few genuine refugees yes. The other economic migrants can get lost. I frequently work in Europe and we here are definitely worse off than most other places. We pay so much more for the same. The cost to France for example for protecting our borders could fund 20k nurses to be trained over here. Let that sink in! | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
Legal routes for the few genuine refugees yes. The other economic migrants can get lost. "And that’s what our asylum system is meant to do / differentiate between the genuine asylum seekers and the disingenuous- but in order to do that, they have to be processed, and at present there are no safe routes to allow that (with a few exceptions from specific nations) - meaning that small boats or lying (arriving ‘on holiday’ then claiming asylum is one example) are the only options available. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly "According to the government Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes"I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport. I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport. Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight! | |||
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"I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport. I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport. Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight!" The airline will already have a list of all those people that boarded the flight and their passport details. UK Immigration will have a list of all the passports that were shown by people entering the country. It won't be difficult to compare the 2 datasets and work out which passport was used to get on the plane, but not used to enter the UK. We don't need new rules to solve this problem. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
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Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport. "Well she’s clearly lying (if it was an international flight at least). That’s fine, she can be checked. Her luggage can be checked, she can be detained, because she sure as hell had one when she boarded the plane. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport.
Well she’s clearly lying (if it was an international flight at least). That’s fine, she can be checked. Her luggage can be checked, she can be detained, because she sure as hell had one when she boarded the plane. "I know it's completely madness! | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport.
I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport.
Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight!"I'm not sure that comparing a woman entering the country via a flight to economic migrants who are very much gaming the system on the small boat crossings is fair. The person could have left their passport on the plane, dropped it on the way through to security, mistakes happen. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport.
I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport.
Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight!
I'm not sure that comparing a woman entering the country via a flight to economic migrants who are very much gaming the system on the small boat crossings is fair.
The person could have left their passport on the plane, dropped it on the way through to security, mistakes happen. "I'm not comparing the two. It was in response to someone saying that migrants arriving on boats make up only 48% of the migrants. As for that lady at Manchester Airport. I heard the whole conversation, she didn't say she lost it, she said she didn't have one at all which is a lie because you cannot board a flight without a passport. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport.
I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport.
Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight!
I'm not sure that comparing a woman entering the country via a flight to economic migrants who are very much gaming the system on the small boat crossings is fair.
The person could have left their passport on the plane, dropped it on the way through to security, mistakes happen.
I'm not comparing the two. It was in response to someone saying that migrants arriving on boats make up only 48% of the migrants.
As for that lady at Manchester Airport. I heard the whole conversation, she didn't say she lost it, she said she didn't have one at all which is a lie because you cannot board a flight without a passport. "Wrong way around. I was quoting the government figures that say 48% arrive via authorized/Legal means and 52% are the illegal entrants (mostly small boats). This shows that legal methods are available as nearly half used them. No idea how your lady boarded a plane in the first place without a passport. At least we know it's not so easy to dump ID overboard as you approach the UK on a plane as it is in the small boats | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport.
I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport.
Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight!
I'm not sure that comparing a woman entering the country via a flight to economic migrants who are very much gaming the system on the small boat crossings is fair.
The person could have left their passport on the plane, dropped it on the way through to security, mistakes happen.
I'm not comparing the two. It was in response to someone saying that migrants arriving on boats make up only 48% of the migrants.
As for that lady at Manchester Airport. I heard the whole conversation, she didn't say she lost it, she said she didn't have one at all which is a lie because you cannot board a flight without a passport.
Wrong way around. I was quoting the government figures that say 48% arrive via authorized/Legal means and 52% are the illegal entrants (mostly small boats). This shows that legal methods are available as nearly half used them. No idea how your lady boarded a plane in the first place without a passport. At least we know it's not so easy to dump ID overboard as you approach the UK on a plane as it is in the small boats"The ‘legal methods’ involve things like overstaying a visa, or coming on a holiday visa and then claiming asylum. Which are not really legal methods at all. We have vanishingly few ‘legal’ methods of coming to the U.K. for the explicit reason of claiming asylum. | |||
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"Do we want men here who think that defecating in the street is acceptable? No we don't. But since they are here, it's probably a good idea to make it clear to them that it isn't acceptable. Maybe with a sign. In my opinion they shouldn't be here at all. Either come here legally with a passport and documents proving who you are or dont come at all. It is not sustainable to have so many coming in via the back door costing the tax payers a fortune! We need to campaign for more legal routes to be established and opened, certainly
According to the government
Just under half, or approximately 48%, of asylum seekers arrive in the UK through authorized or legal entry routes (such as valid visas or prior legal leave) before subsequently claiming asylum, while roughly 52% arrive via unauthorized or irregular routes
I saw first hand at Manchester Airport last year an African woman had come off a flight and said she had no passport.
I think when people are going through boarding (to the UK), everyone should have their photos taken holding their passport.
Could be done at security when standing in the booth with your arms out stretched. They've even got shoe scanners now so why not a way to record someone holding their passport. Put a stop to this nonsense of saying you have no passport when you've literally just got off a flight!
I'm not sure that comparing a woman entering the country via a flight to economic migrants who are very much gaming the system on the small boat crossings is fair.
The person could have left their passport on the plane, dropped it on the way through to security, mistakes happen. "This was after passport control. | |||
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" So similar to when visiting UAE and similar countries where kissing is banned in public? Do they have signs up for foreigners showing two people kissing? Just curious..." Do UK swimming pools still have the sign saying "no petting" with an illustration ? | |||
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"This is not race baiting. Doesn't anyone else feel concerned that these signs have to put up in the first place? You think that every foreigner that arrives here should already have a full knowledge of British customs, and be fully aware of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour?" The signs are about not pissing or shitting in public… Shouldn’t somethings be obvious to foreigners? | |||
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"This is not race baiting. Doesn't anyone else feel concerned that these signs have to put up in the first place? You think that every foreigner that arrives here should already have a full knowledge of British customs, and be fully aware of what is and isn't acceptable behaviour? The signs are about not pissing or shitting in public… Shouldn’t something things be obvious to foreigners?" Oh, come on! The signs have been not been put up for the immigrants. They've been put up to goad the locals into rebellion against the existence of the camp. | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. " I don’t want to live among people who think it’s ok to go to the toilet outdoors. Millions must go! | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. I don’t want to live among people who think it’s ok to go to the toilet outdoors. Millions must go!" What about people taking a walk home from the pub?  | |||
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" What about people taking a walk home from the pub? "Like Peter Mandelson | |||
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" So similar to when visiting UAE and similar countries where kissing is banned in public? Do they have signs up for foreigners showing two people kissing? Just curious... Do UK swimming pools still have the sign saying "no petting" with an illustration ?" When I first went to Canada as a tourist and saw signs for petting zoos, I thought "That sounds good. We can have hanky panky in front of the animals"! I'm sure those swimming pool images helped to give some people ideas who otherwwise went in there with pure thoughts.. | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. I don’t want to live among people who think it’s ok to go to the toilet outdoors. Millions must go!" Don't look in any motorway layby... | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. I don’t want to live among people who think it’s ok to go to the toilet outdoors. Millions must go! Don't look in any motorway layby..." Exactly! That’s appalling too! Why add to the problem? | |||
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"I recently read Rory Stewart's account of walking through Afghanistan. In the villages all the things mentioned on those signs are common, it wasn't unusual for him to see a guy squatting by the side of the road. That's probably why the signs are there so that the men know it's not accepted in the UK. I don’t want to live among people who think it’s ok to go to the toilet outdoors. Millions must go! What about people taking a walk home from the pub? "I think we all know the difference between someone having the occasional slash behind a bush occasionally and someone who has no idea at all how to behave. | |||
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"The ‘legal methods’ involve things like overstaying a visa, or coming on a holiday visa and then claiming asylum. Which are not really legal methods at all. We have vanishingly few ‘legal’ methods of coming to the U.K. for the explicit reason of claiming asylum." The UK has no legal method of coming to this country specifically for the purpose of claiming asylum. In this fact it is just like all of the other countries on the planet. | |||
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"The ‘legal methods’ involve things like overstaying a visa, or coming on a holiday visa and then claiming asylum. Which are not really legal methods at all. We have vanishingly few ‘legal’ methods of coming to the U.K. for the explicit reason of claiming asylum. The UK has no legal method of coming to this country specifically for the purpose of claiming asylum. In this fact it is just like all of the other countries on the planet." Sorry yes, my choice of words were poorly phrased in the final sentence. We have vanishingly few safe routes for coming to the UK, Such as Afghan relocations, Hong Kong, Ukraine | |||
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"The ‘legal methods’ involve things like overstaying a visa, or coming on a holiday visa and then claiming asylum. Which are not really legal methods at all. We have vanishingly few ‘legal’ methods of coming to the U.K. for the explicit reason of claiming asylum." "The UK has no legal method of coming to this country specifically for the purpose of claiming asylum. In this fact it is just like all of the other countries on the planet." "Sorry yes, my choice of words were poorly phrased in the final sentence. We have vanishingly few safe routes for coming to the UK, Such as Afghan relocations, Hong Kong, Ukraine " Agreed. Britain is not overly generous in its provision of refuge to those in difficulty. | |||
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