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By *abio OP   Man
19 hours ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Thought I’d start a new one so people can comment on the ins and outs of…..

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
18 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

Prediction:

Streeting as chancellor or home sec.

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By *e-OptimistMan
17 hours ago

Stalybridge

Burnham as PM.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
16 hours ago

Horsham/Crawley

Larry the cat as home secretary.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
15 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

Reeves has quit.

Wonder if she was offered something else and decided against it.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
15 hours ago

nearby


"Reeves has quit.

Wonder if she was offered something else and decided against it."

Two years as chancellor

She’ll put 10 years in her CV

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By *ookingFor.....Man
15 hours ago

Horsham/Crawley


"Reeves has quit.

Wonder if she was offered something else and decided against it.

Two years as chancellor

She’ll put 10 years in her CV "

Harsh, but fair…

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
14 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away


"Prediction:

Streeting as chancellor or home sec."

No sign of him

This is why I don't bet

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By *izandpaulCouple
13 hours ago

merseyside

Poor Andy.

Wonder if he will look as haggared and burnt out in 2 years time, just like the rest of them.

I wish him luck, I couldn't think of a worse job.

Sadly, he will never live up to the expectations all the different strands of society expect.

A thankless task but usually a great career awaits once you've done your stint.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
13 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
13 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

John Healey is chancellor

Didn't see that one coming

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By *ostindreamsMan
13 hours ago

London


"John Healey is chancellor

Didn't see that one coming"

He resigned over defence spending row. Looks like Burnham asked him to take over the chancellor role and figure out the defence spending himself

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
13 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away


"John Healey is chancellor

Didn't see that one coming

He resigned over defence spending row. Looks like Burnham asked him to take over the chancellor role and figure out the defence spending himself "

Be interesting to see how he's going to fund it

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By *ostindreamsMan
12 hours ago

London

Mahmood as Chancellor

Miliband as foreign secretary

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
12 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away


"Mahmood as Chancellor

Miliband as foreign secretary "

Mahmood is home sec

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By *ellhungvweMan
12 hours ago

Cheltenham


"John Healey is chancellor

Didn't see that one coming

He resigned over defence spending row. Looks like Burnham asked him to take over the chancellor role and figure out the defence spending himself

Be interesting to see how he's going to fund it"

I did not see that one coming but I agree he has basically told him to sort it out. I can’t see how he can’t fully fund the military now so will be interesting to see what gets cut. If anything.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
11 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

Yvette Cooper is health sec.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
11 hours ago

nearby


"Yvette Cooper is health sec."

Wasn’t that leaked for three homes Rayner

Has she been given a position

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
11 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away


"Yvette Cooper is health sec.

Wasn’t that leaked for three homes Rayner

Has she been given a position "

There's been no sighting of Rayner yet

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By *ostindreamsMan
11 hours ago

London


"Mahmood as Chancellor

Miliband as foreign secretary

Mahmood is home sec"

Oops. Thanks for correcting it.

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By *ostindreamsMan
11 hours ago

London

Miliband being pushed to foreign secretary is interesting. Burnham isn't very much supportive of Net Zero?

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By *ostindreamsMan
11 hours ago

London

Mahmood continuing as home secretary could also mean that Burnham is supportive of her immigration reforms which the Labour backbenchers were opposing.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
11 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
11 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away


"Miliband being pushed to foreign secretary is interesting. Burnham isn't very much supportive of Net Zero?"

Miliband's appointment won't please Trump as he lead the charge to stop them using British bases to hit Iran

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By *im125TV/TS
11 hours ago

Fife

Milliband foreign Secretary ???

Bloody laughing stock around the world!!

He looks like something out of Wallace and Grommit and even worse when he opens his mouth!!!

Still at least we'll start drilling again now he's buggered off!!

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By *e-OptimistMan
10 hours ago

Stalybridge


"Yvette Cooper is health sec.

Wasn’t that leaked for three homes Rayner

Has she been given a position

There's been no sighting of Rayner yet"

Rayner in charge of fraud prevention.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
10 hours ago

Horsham/Crawley


"Poor Andy.

Wonder if he will look as haggared and burnt out in 2 years time, just like the rest of them.

I wish him luck, I couldn't think of a worse job.

Sadly, he will never live up to the expectations all the different strands of society expect.

A thankless task but usually a great career awaits once you've done your stint."

If his premiership is as good a fit as the suit he wore today…. We’re fucked!

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By *oubleswing2019Man
10 hours ago

Colchester

Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

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On the other hand, she's spoken about the importance of rehabilitation and framed policies to help vulnerable people. She's also mentioned her own upbringing and discrimination she has experienced. If she can retain her humanity and empathy, I'd warm more to her. She also is supportive of the ECHR, and has not advocated leaving the 1951 Refugee Convention. So perhaps there is some compassion and kindness still bubbling there.

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By *ostindreamsMan
10 hours ago

London


"Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

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What's wrong with being firm and disciplined?

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
10 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

Hold the phone!

Streeting and Rayner have just entered No10

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
10 hours ago

In a galaxy far far away

Rayner is housing sec

You can't make this up 🤣

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By *oubleswing2019Man
10 hours ago

Colchester


"Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

What's wrong with being firm and disciplined?"

What's right with being firm and disciplined ?

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By *otMe66Man
10 hours ago

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
10 hours ago

nearby

Three homes Angela back in charge of house building

1,500,000 new homes ……

New build delivery rates worse than tories.

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By *otMe66Man
10 hours ago

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"Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

What's wrong with being firm and disciplined?

What's right with being firm and disciplined ?"

What's wrong with it? Can you answer this simply?

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By *ostindreamsMan
10 hours ago

London


"Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

What's wrong with being firm and disciplined?

What's right with being firm and disciplined ?"

Politicians win the elections making electoral promises. Being firm and disciplined is important to fulfil those promises.

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By *otMe66Man
10 hours ago

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"Three homes Angela back in charge of house building

1,500,000 new homes ……

New build delivery rates worse than tories."

Taxpayers funding longterm housing that can be passed from one relative to another through lifetime tenancies, and people wonder why there isn’t enough social and council housing when those who have it don't need to let go of it.

Where is the incentive to move out and let someone else who is less fortunate have their chance?

We can't keep building houses and allowing the stock to be manipulated.

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By *ondon GentMan
9 hours ago

london

Convicted fraudster Louise Haigh - now deputy pm

Manc matress gets her job back - has she paid her tax yet ?

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By *oubleswing2019Man
9 hours ago

Colchester


"Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

What's wrong with being firm and disciplined?

What's right with being firm and disciplined ?

What's wrong with it? Can you answer this simply? "

If 2 of you feel there is nothing wrong with it, perhaps you need to give your reasons why ? After all, I might agree with some of them, but I cannot refute any until you do. Where is the line being drawn here ? What are your definitions and understandings of firm and disciplined ?

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By *ostindreamsMan
9 hours ago

London


"Shabana Mahmood stays as home secretary.

On the one hand, she's developed a reputation as firm and disciplined which concerns me greatly.

What's wrong with being firm and disciplined?

What's right with being firm and disciplined ?

What's wrong with it? Can you answer this simply?

If 2 of you feel there is nothing wrong with it, perhaps you need to give your reasons why ? After all, I might agree with some of them, but I cannot refute any until you do. Where is the line being drawn here ? What are your definitions and understandings of firm and disciplined ?"

Not sure what you are saying here. Why should someone give a reason for saying there is nothing wrong with a person's actions? You said that being firm and disciplined is "concerning". What exactly are you concerned about a politician being firm and disciplined?

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By *oubleswing2019Man
8 hours ago

Colchester


"What exactly are you concerned about a politician being firm and disciplined?"

Firm and disciplined sits somewhere along the spectrum nearer to "Authoritarian" in my view. That is not an end which I wish to see strengthen or widen (USA, I am looking at you in particular).

Disciplined also implies inability to change direction when circumstances change. It's a rigidity of thinking, and I believe leaders need to be able to adapt and pivot to meet the changing needs of a society. Societies are not fixed social constructs.

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What is your understanding then of firm and disciplined ? I've shown you mine

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By *ostindreamsMan
8 hours ago

London

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By *ostindreamsMan
8 hours ago

London


"What exactly are you concerned about a politician being firm and disciplined?

Firm and disciplined sits somewhere along the spectrum nearer to "Authoritarian" in my view. That is not an end which I wish to see strengthen or widen (USA, I am looking at you in particular).

Disciplined also implies inability to change direction when circumstances change. It's a rigidity of thinking, and I believe leaders need to be able to adapt and pivot to meet the changing needs of a society. Societies are not fixed social constructs.

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What is your understanding then of firm and disciplined ? I've shown you mine "

In my opinion, firm and disciplined in a political context means sticking to the promises made to the electorate without getting distracted by other noises.

Considering that Labour's manifesto pledge is to control immigration, I think she is doing the right thing.

Unless you believe that sticking to election promises is wrong, I don't see why you find it concerning.

The word "firm" could possibly be twisted and linked to authoritarianism. But there is no way being "disciplined" can be linked to authoritarianism.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
15 minutes ago

In a galaxy far far away


"Prediction:

Streeting as chancellor or home sec."

He's defence sec

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