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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Area's with a hosepipe ban you could face £1000 fine.

Unless you receive benefits and you are exempt from the ban and the fine !

I'm sure there's more to this story but ffs.

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
2 weeks ago

E.K . Glasgow


"Area's with a hosepipe ban you could face £1000 fine.

Unless you receive benefits and you are exempt from the ban and the fine !

I'm sure there's more to this story but ffs. "

I’m not sure but if your on disability benefit your exempt . Other benefits I’m unsure .

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Area's with a hosepipe ban you could face £1000 fine.

Unless you receive benefits and you are exempt from the ban and the fine !

I'm sure there's more to this story but ffs.

I’m not sure but if your on disability benefit your exempt . Other benefits I’m unsure . "

Well that's understandable that if you have a disability .

I. Always confused when it comes to these hosepipe bans.

How do football clubs and cricket clubs get around it they must use VAST amounts of water?

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By *gp_sub01Man
2 weeks ago

malaga


"Area's with a hosepipe ban you could face £1000 fine.

Unless you receive benefits and you are exempt from the ban and the fine !

I'm sure there's more to this story but ffs. "

Could you not have just checked before getting worked up about it..?

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
2 weeks ago

E.K . Glasgow

Are there exemptions? Businesses are exempt if hosepipes are needed for commercial purposes. Sports clubs, golf courses, commercial food growers and professional car washes are therefore unaffected. A hosepipe can also be used to clean hazardous spills, or fill a pond or tank used to keep animals, including fish.

Blue badge holders are also exempt but need to check with local water authority on exact details .

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By *ingpong70Man
2 weeks ago

Surbiton

This is a downstream of The Sun TWO TIER HOSEPIPE BAN bollocks.

TWO TIER is the new Right Wing buzzword.

Some water companies explicitly exempt a narrowly defined group of customers who have exceptional water needs. That's basically people with medical conditions that require a lot of water to treat.

But that's not nearly as appealing to The Sun as claiming that people on benefits get to water their lawns for 24 hours a day whilst the rest of us are slapped with £1000 fines.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
2 weeks ago

nearby

34 million buildings in uk, only a few off grid or with rainwater collection, together uk buildings capable of 3+ trillion litres of rainwater harvest. More than half the uks 5.8trn litre consumption.

Ridiculous wastage

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By *andomDickMan
2 weeks ago

Northern England

Haven't built a new reservoir since 1992, with one due for completion 2029-2031, Over 10 million more people since then , I will carry on watering my garden/plants regardless of a ban

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By *ad NannaWoman
2 weeks ago

East London

Those fucking disabled people getting all the breaks

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By *ad NannaWoman
2 weeks ago

East London


"Haven't built a new reservoir since 1992, with one due for completion 2029-2031, Over 10 million more people since then , I will carry on watering my garden/plants regardless of a ban "

Use your bath water and start pissing on your dahlias.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
2 weeks ago

nearby


"Those fucking disabled people getting all the breaks "

Salad dodgers with blue badge

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By *ad NannaWoman
2 weeks ago

East London


"Those fucking disabled people getting all the breaks

Salad dodgers with blue badge "

I quite like a salad.

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By *eat62Man
2 weeks ago

Falkirk

Just another thing to separate people from eachother. I am really sick of the internet putting out bullshit that just sends people into a rage. I have not seen this on any news programme but I have seen people ranting about it on line. I can't wait for the next thing mother's breast feeding or changing a baby. Omg it be someone with glasses next. I always knew it was coming. How short sighted of me 😂

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By *ingpong70Man
2 weeks ago

Surbiton


"Those fucking disabled people getting all the breaks "

MILLIONS MUST GO !!!

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By *rBruce101Man
2 weeks ago

Leicester

Hope they are as angry about the bloke with a £10000 worth of koi carp being exempt as well.

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By *apybarasCouple
2 weeks ago

High Lighthouse

The media need their click-bait.

It's been in place since 2000, but only now do the media kick up a fuss.

It's also a bit more than having to be on benefits.

There are 3 criteria for being on a WaterSure tariff:

You have a water meter (or equivalent)

You are on certain means-tested benefits

AND

You have a high essential use for water due to:

Certain medical conditions that require higher-than-normal water use

3+ 19yo children in ft education

Which all sounds pretty reasonable to me.

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By *rBruce101Man
2 weeks ago

Leicester

Shhhhh with your facts.

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"The media need their click-bait.

It's been in place since 2000, but only now do the media kick up a fuss.

It's also a bit more than having to be on benefits.

There are 3 criteria for being on a WaterSure tariff:

You have a water meter (or equivalent)

You are on certain means-tested benefits

AND

You have a high essential use for water due to:

Certain medical conditions that require higher-than-normal water use

3+ 19yo children in ft education

Which all sounds pretty reasonable to me."

I don’t know OPs original story but my understanding is that he was talking about a hose pipe ban for watering your garden.

How does any of the above relate to watering your garden? I struggle to think of any scenario where a disability requires your to water your garden from a hose. Is it just a legal loophole where a specific tariff happens to give you the right to use water for any purpose irrespective of any wider public restrictions? If so then it seems like a poorly worded tariff contract and I don’t think it would be unreasonable to impose a garden related restriction for anyone on it. Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
2 weeks ago

Gilfach


"I struggle to think of any scenario where a disability requires your to water your garden from a hose. Is it just a legal loophole where a specific tariff happens to give you the right to use water for any purpose irrespective of any wider public restrictions?"

It's just that some people have a protected tariff that is capped at a certain level. If those people choose to water their garden, they won't pay any extra once they've reached the cap.

It's just click-baity journalism.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
2 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought."

a hosepipe ban isn't a ban on watering your garden in a drought .... it's a ban on using a hosepipe

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought.

a hosepipe ban isn't a ban on watering your garden in a drought .... it's a ban on using a hosepipe "

Which is why I used that exact phrase in the bit you cut out

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By *hrill CollinsMan
2 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought.

a hosepipe ban isn't a ban on watering your garden in a drought .... it's a ban on using a hosepipe

Which is why I used that exact phrase in the bit you cut out "

does that mean you've changed your view now then?

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought.

a hosepipe ban isn't a ban on watering your garden in a drought .... it's a ban on using a hosepipe

Which is why I used that exact phrase in the bit you cut out

does that mean you've changed your view now then?

"

I am just curious to understand what is actually driving this. As per my original question, I think if there is a valid reason why someone on the tariff in question needs to be able to water their garden from a hose during a drought then I think they should water to their hearts content otherwise it just seems to be a poorly worded contract. You have affirmed it is a poorly worded contract. I still don’t really see any reason why they should not be subject to the water restrictions from a hose.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
2 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought.

a hosepipe ban isn't a ban on watering your garden in a drought .... it's a ban on using a hosepipe

Which is why I used that exact phrase in the bit you cut out

does that mean you've changed your view now then?

I am just curious to understand what is actually driving this. As per my original question, I think if there is a valid reason why someone on the tariff in question needs to be able to water their garden from a hose during a drought then I think they should water to their hearts content otherwise it just seems to be a poorly worded contract. You have affirmed it is a poorly worded contract. I still don’t really see any reason why they should not be subject to the water restrictions from a hose."

tbf you've affirmed that your last three posts are poorly worded .... didn't realise you were a telegraph journalist 😂

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Happy to change that view if someone can give me a valid reason why a disability means your garden needs to be watered in a drought.

a hosepipe ban isn't a ban on watering your garden in a drought .... it's a ban on using a hosepipe

Which is why I used that exact phrase in the bit you cut out

does that mean you've changed your view now then?

I am just curious to understand what is actually driving this. As per my original question, I think if there is a valid reason why someone on the tariff in question needs to be able to water their garden from a hose during a drought then I think they should water to their hearts content otherwise it just seems to be a poorly worded contract. You have affirmed it is a poorly worded contract. I still don’t really see any reason why they should not be subject to the water restrictions from a hose.

tbf you've affirmed that your last three posts are poorly worded .... didn't realise you were a telegraph journalist 😂"

???

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By *rBruce101Man
2 weeks ago

Leicester

Have you ever tried picking up a full 5l watering can if you have no hands? Not that this is about watering the garden. But if it was, there is a disability where they would probably be allowed to use a hosepipe.

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By *ellhungvweMan
2 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Have you ever tried picking up a full 5l watering can if you have no hands? Not that this is about watering the garden. But if it was, there is a disability where they would probably be allowed to use a hosepipe."

Actually my point was about the garden. I hadn’t thought through the watering can element.

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By *rBruce101Man
2 weeks ago

Leicester

You are allowed to water your garden. But just with a watering can. But as I say, it's not about watering the garden.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
2 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"You are allowed to water your garden. But just with a watering can. But as I say, it's not about watering the garden. "

quite .... it's about the use of hosepipes in a drought .... but the usual ham-hock rags send their readers blood pressure soaring with wildly inaccurate politics of jealousy articles yet again.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"Area's with a hosepipe ban you could face £1000 fine.

Unless you receive benefits and you are exempt from the ban and the fine !

I'm sure there's more to this story but ffs.

I’m not sure but if your on disability benefit your exempt . Other benefits I’m unsure .

Well that's understandable that if you have a disability .

I. Always confused when it comes to these hosepipe bans.

How do football clubs and cricket clubs get around it they must use VAST amounts of water?"

Spots frailty are not included same as construction sites.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
2 weeks ago

Hastings


"34 million buildings in uk, only a few off grid or with rainwater collection, together uk buildings capable of 3+ trillion litres of rainwater harvest. More than half the uks 5.8trn litre consumption.

Ridiculous wastage "

We had rain water harvesting but where told we need an extraction licence as we where stopping the rain water from getting to the water course.

Rain water is better for plants, but if you store to much there is a cost to it.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bedfuck

Looking at all the water, alcohol and soft drinks on the garages, pubs. Cafes restaurants, vending machines, shop and supermarket shelves makes me wonder is that where all the water has gone. Add it all up makes for alot of water.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bedfuck

Looking at all the water, alcohol and soft drinks on the garages, pubs. Cafes restaurants, vending machines, shop and supermarket shelves makes me wonder is that where all the water has gone. Add it all up makes for alot of water.

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By *inky_RagnarCouple
3 days ago

Peterborough


"Area's with a hosepipe ban you could face £1000 fine.

Unless you receive benefits and you are exempt from the ban and the fine !

I'm sure there's more to this story but ffs. "

Untrue. Unpolicable

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By *rasshopper201Man
2 days ago

kendal

I’d like to know why having a disability is different to not when it comes to hose pipes Ld genuinely liked to know

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 days ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"This is a downstream of The Sun TWO TIER HOSEPIPE BAN bollocks.

TWO TIER is the new Right Wing buzzword.

Some water companies explicitly exempt a narrowly defined group of customers who have exceptional water needs. That's basically people with medical conditions that require a lot of water to treat.

But that's not nearly as appealing to The Sun as claiming that people on benefits get to water their lawns for 24 hours a day whilst the rest of us are slapped with £1000 fines."

Question.

What medical conditions require a hosepipe for treatment?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
2 days ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"34 million buildings in uk, only a few off grid or with rainwater collection, together uk buildings capable of 3+ trillion litres of rainwater harvest. More than half the uks 5.8trn litre consumption.

Ridiculous wastage "

Fully agree but it reminds me of a story from many years ago.

There was a family that used to run a small garden nursery near where I used to live in the UK.

Nothing big like a garden centre. Mostly they just sold bedding plants in the spring and grew tomatoes in the summer. They were pretty much semi retired and it was more of a hobby business.

Anyway we were chatting one day and he was having a bit of a rant about the water company.

The piece of land they used was separate but adjacent to his home and had no mains water supply. He used a series of large water butts which collected water from his greenhouse roofs and was connected to a watering system. A hosepipe from his house would have needed to be nearly half a mile long.

One day he got a visit from the water company telling him he had to pay business water rates for the land. Needless to say he argued that he didn't use any of their water and collected all what he used from rainfall so why should he have to pay.

The official pointed to the sky and said "see that cloud? WE OWN IT!".

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
2 days ago

Central

If they fixed the leaks, it would save more than a national ban.. But a lot of people voted the party in, to privatise national assets that shouldn't have been, in the past . And then the money got siphoned away and minimal investments

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