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"No matter how the police are dealing with it what sort of cunt kills a woman of nearly 80 years old.some people really are the dregs of society " this is ‘safe’ rural Dartmoor where I was born, many people still don’t lock cars or their houses | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . " Didn’t the police change their policy as a result of Southport? | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . " I'm being a bit daft today how are we being gaslit and what about this is a two tier society I thought there were many more tiers than 2.  | |||
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"A very sad loss. She appeared to be a person of her mind and wasn't afraid to say it. Whether you agree with her politics or not I hope everyone can agree this is a big loss in the most terrible of circumstances " The circumstances are terrible but I can't honestly claim that it's a big loss to me personally. | |||
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"A very sad loss. She appeared to be a person of her mind and wasn't afraid to say it. Whether you agree with her politics or not I hope everyone can agree this is a big loss in the most terrible of circumstances " When the perpetrator(s) is caught wait to hear the motive. Nobody anywhere randomly driving to haytor to kill a 78 year old woman without intent | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . " Why do you think the powers that be are supposedly so keen to rush out the information that any suspect is white at the moment, whilst supposedly keeping their cards closer to their chest if the suspect is ethnic minority & esp. Muslim? Do you think it might have something to do with limited police resources trying to keep broader civil order? Anyhow, in respect of Ann Widdicombe, I didn’t agree with her views usually, but she was a feisty Brit with a vein of eccentricity who I was prepared to listen to regardless if she was on the TV even if it was just to shake my head in disagreement. As above though, what cnut kills a near 80 year old woman in her own home? Few people deserve that ending to life & she certainly didn’t as far as I know. RIP. | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Why do you think the powers that be are supposedly so keen to rush out the information that any suspect is white at the moment, whilst supposedly keeping their cards closer to their chest if the suspect is ethnic minority & esp. Muslim? Do you think it might have something to do with limited police resources trying to keep broader civil order? Anyhow, in respect of Ann Widdicombe, I didn’t agree with her views usually, but she was a feisty Brit with a vein of eccentricity who I was prepared to listen to regardless if she was on the TV even if it was just to shake my head in disagreement. As above though, what cnut kills a near 80 year old woman in her own home? Few people deserve that ending to life & she certainly didn’t as far as I know. RIP. " Are the police keeping things close to their chest when it’s an ethnic minority? | |||
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" Are the police keeping things close to their chest when it’s an ethnic minority?" Or non ethnic majority Female spokesperson of Reform UK | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Why do you think the powers that be are supposedly so keen to rush out the information that any suspect is white at the moment, whilst supposedly keeping their cards closer to their chest if the suspect is ethnic minority & esp. Muslim? Do you think it might have something to do with limited police resources trying to keep broader civil order? Anyhow, in respect of Ann Widdicombe, I didn’t agree with her views usually, but she was a feisty Brit with a vein of eccentricity who I was prepared to listen to regardless if she was on the TV even if it was just to shake my head in disagreement. As above though, what cnut kills a near 80 year old woman in her own home? Few people deserve that ending to life & she certainly didn’t as far as I know. RIP. Are the police keeping things close to their chest when it’s an ethnic minority?" I don’t know. I’m just putting it out there. But, putting myself in a Chief Constable’s shoes, I probably wouldn’t blame them if they chose to drip feed the information given the febrile societal atmosphere in the UK at the moment. | |||
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"In Southport they had the killer. The information wasn't important as they weren't looking for anyone. In this case they didn't have anyone when they released they were looking for someone white. It was pertinent to the investigation. I do think it's funny that people were screaming for ethnicity to be released... Just not yet." I hope the 26 year old white male sues the police for wrongful arrest - and that and compensation given comes out of the police christmas raffle and not from tax payers . | |||
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"In Southport they had the killer. The information wasn't important as they weren't looking for anyone. In this case they didn't have anyone when they released they were looking for someone white. It was pertinent to the investigation. I do think it's funny that people were screaming for ethnicity to be released... Just not yet. I hope the 26 year old white male sues the police for wrongful arrest - and that and compensation given comes out of the police christmas raffle and not from tax payers . " What have the police done wrong? | |||
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""26 year old while male arrested" Yet when that c-nt butchered those poor children there was radio silence as to his identity and when it was drip fed - he was born in the uk .... until Two tier . " Didn’t the police change their policy after Southport? | |||
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""26 year old while male arrested" Yet when that c-nt butchered those poor children there was radio silence as to his identity and when it was drip fed - he was born in the uk .... until Two tier . Didn’t the police change their policy after Southport?" What like Henry Nowak ? (RIP) | |||
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""26 year old while male arrested" Yet when that c-nt butchered those poor children there was radio silence as to his identity and when it was drip fed - he was born in the uk .... until Two tier . Didn’t the police change their policy after Southport? What like Henry Nowak ? (RIP) " I think you’re getting confused, did the police change their policy on releasing the ethnicity of suspects after Southport? | |||
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"Latest on social media ‘Ann Widdecombe was murdered because Labour and the media put a target on Reform. This is exactly why Nigel needs protection.’ Didn’t take long for her murder to be hijacked " Surprised that they didn't add that a man with a bin on his head was the likely suspect. | |||
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"Latest on social media ‘Ann Widdecombe was murdered because Labour and the media put a target on Reform. This is exactly why Nigel needs protection.’ Didn’t take long for her murder to be hijacked " Vile. Farage laying flowers whilst his supporters urinate on her memory.. | |||
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"Latest on social media ‘Ann Widdecombe was murdered because Labour and the media put a target on Reform. This is exactly why Nigel needs protection.’ Didn’t take long for her murder to be hijacked Vile. Farage laying flowers whilst his supporters urinate on her memory.." To be fair to Nigel that insinuation was first made by *check notes* the statement reform uk first made in light of the revelation that police were investigating | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . " A elderly lady is brutally murdered. An initial suspect was arrested and after interview released without charge, having no involvement. The investigation is moving forward at pace. Where is the issue? | |||
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" A elderly lady is brutally murdered. An initial suspect was arrested and after interview released without charge, having no involvement. The investigation is moving forward at pace. Where is the issue?" For the narrative to hold, the killer needs to be quickly identified as someone who the gammons identify as The Enemy - so brown or trans or lefty. Their beef is that police procedure isn't fast enough for their social media frenzy, so therefore it's "two tier", which is Reform's new favourite phrase | |||
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" A elderly lady is brutally murdered. An initial suspect was arrested and after interview released without charge, having no involvement. The investigation is moving forward at pace. Where is the issue? For the narrative to hold, the killer needs to be quickly identified as someone who the gammons identify as The Enemy - so brown or trans or lefty. Their beef is that police procedure isn't fast enough for their social media frenzy, so therefore it's "two tier", which is Reform's new favourite phrase " So no real issues then. Think probably best leave the Police to do their jobs. The Social Media Police Service will just have to stay at home with mum for the foreseeable. Once the investigation is completed they can then be released from mum or Matron's care to spew their bile. | |||
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"She was one if the few honest politicians as far as I am aware. Nobody paid for her glasses and Clothea, lent her homes abroad for holidays. Never fiddled her expenses or tried to evade taxes or take money as gifts and not declare what should have been declared with weasel explanations . No politician is going to appeal to every one. There are some vile people who commit these violent offences against women and some vile people who justify it with reference to her politics " I haven't seen anyone justifying her murder. But I'm also not going to join in with the eulogy. | |||
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"She was one if the few honest politicians as far as I am aware. Nobody paid for her glasses and Clothea, lent her homes abroad for holidays. Never fiddled her expenses or tried to evade taxes or take money as gifts and not declare what should have been declared with weasel explanations . No politician is going to appeal to every one. There are some vile people who commit these violent offences against women and some vile people who justify it with reference to her politics "  | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . " Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit? | |||
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"Murder aside, has anyone noticed how well endowed the local reporter Janine Jensen is? " That is unutterably disrespectful to a dead woman and the reporter | |||
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"I don't grasp OPs point. . It sounds a disgusting case and nobody deserves a violent end to their life. That someone was arrested so quickly, suggested the police were on the ball. He was released and isn't under concern but another has been arrested. We should expect that anyone perpetrating violence is dealt with swiftly and appropriately. We need to focus on this, not spurious allegations of tiers, etc, that stokes division. Keep society together, not unraveling " Exactly this!
I didn't agree and was against some things she said, just don't vote for her if you disagree with her politics, but as said she was an elderly woman brutally murdered.
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"Murder aside, has anyone noticed how well endowed the local reporter Janine Jensen is? That is unutterably disrespectful to a dead woman and the reporter " I thought Widdecombe was a horrendous homophobic, and transphobic, bigot, and I agree it is utterly disrespectful. | |||
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"Murder aside, has anyone noticed how well endowed the local reporter Janine Jensen is? That is unutterably disrespectful to a dead woman and the reporter I thought Widdecombe was a horrendous homophobic, and transphobic, bigot, and I agree it is utterly disrespectful." Well I apologise if I've upset anyone. | |||
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"In Southport they had the killer. The information wasn't important as they weren't looking for anyone. In this case they didn't have anyone when they released they were looking for someone white. It was pertinent to the investigation. I do think it's funny that people were screaming for ethnicity to be released... Just not yet." No no. People want ethnicity released, but in all cases. Otherwise you are offering protection to one and not another. The very definition of 2 tier | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit?" By only releasing suspects ethnicity when they are white?? | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit? By only releasing suspects ethnicity when they are white??" 83% of murders in the UK are committed by whites. Do you want to protect are wimmin and kids or don't you? | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit? By only releasing suspects ethnicity when they are white??" They don't though do they. I've seen several news reports where the say the ethnicity of the suspect | |||
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"Murder aside, has anyone noticed how well endowed the local reporter Janine Jensen is? " The great thing about these forum posts is they highlight the ignorant, unbelievably stupid, self centred trash of society. They can't hold back spewing their vile comments. Most would be outraged if anyone dared say something nasty about them. But these type of posts are wonderful to use as a filter to spot people you wouldn't want to meet in a million years. | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit? By only releasing suspects ethnicity when they are white?? 83% of murders in the UK are committed by whites. Do you want to protect are wimmin and kids or don't you?" What are you on about?? Are you following the subject of this thread? | |||
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" 83% of murders in the UK are committed by whites. Do you want to protect are wimmin and kids or don't you?" Actually, the Home Offoce reports in 2024 64% of folk convicted or charged with murder were white. That's just shy of two thirds. | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit? By only releasing suspects ethnicity when they are white??" There used to be some not so clear guidance on revealing the suspect ethnicity in such cases. But pretty sure that they decided to reveal the ethnicity in all the cases recently. One example is the recent Belfast attack where they revealed both ethnicity and immigration status instantly and the suspect then was non-white. | |||
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" 83% of murders in the UK are committed by whites. Do you want to protect are wimmin and kids or don't you? Actually, the Home Offoce reports in 2024 64% of folk convicted or charged with murder were white. That's just shy of two thirds." Just to add for fairness, whites make up a higher proportion of theft/burglary convictions and charges offences per capita, at 89%. Incidentally, there are rumours this killing may have been a burglary gone wrong. | |||
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"Incidentally, there are rumours this killing may have been a burglary gone wrong." I've seen TV shows, whenever the local cops say that it's a burglary gone wrong it turns out to be an elaborate murder plot. There's also a rumour that the suspect left his house with 'a weapon', and drive 270 miles to Widdecombe's house. That doesn't seem to fit in with the burglary theory. Maybe it's better to wait for the evidence to revealed so that we can make decisions based on fact rather than supposition. | |||
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"Counter terrorism police have taken over the case after getting new information." Who would have thought otherwise suspect drove nearly 300 miles to Reforms elderly spokeswoman’s home ‘with wooden stick’. Middle of Dartmoor. | |||
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" 83% of murders in the UK are committed by whites. Do you want to protect are wimmin and kids or don't you? Actually, the Home Offoce reports in 2024 64% of folk convicted or charged with murder were white. That's just shy of two thirds. Just to add for fairness, whites make up a higher proportion of theft/burglary convictions and charges offences per capita, at 89%. Incidentally, there are rumours this killing may have been a burglary gone wrong." LOL...You’ve managed to confuse an 89% police crime-recording compliance rate with the ethnicity of burglars. Tell me about the rumours tho.... | |||
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"It could be a myriad of reasons. Do you know they traveled 300 miles to get there? All we know is they traveled 300 miles to get away from there. Unless you have information the police haven't released." His car was seen on her ring doorbell camera on the Wednesday which is when the police now believe she was attacked.. He was seen on another cctv the morning of the Wednesday leaving home.. They wont release much more publicly at this time for obvious reasons but I think we can safely assume theres other evidence they have of his journey and probably forensics too.. | |||
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"No denying that and now it's with the terror police they must have something. My reply was just saying we don't know what happened definitely. I hadn't seen the bit about his car being picked up the day before." Fast moving situation.. | |||
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"So the suspect immediately identified as 26 years old and white has been released without charge . But it is ok as theinvestigation is "moving at a significant pace" Another example of two tier society . Read Southport and the lack of info as to the vile killers identity . T Normal folk are being gaslit . Or maybe they've learned lessons from the fallout from Southport and now take proactive steps to avoid a repeat of that shit? By only releasing suspects ethnicity when they are white?? There used to be some not so clear guidance on revealing the suspect ethnicity in such cases. But pretty sure that they decided to reveal the ethnicity in all the cases recently. One example is the recent Belfast attack where they revealed both ethnicity and immigration status instantly and the suspect then was non-white." That was different, there was clear video footage of that widely spread all over the Internet. They had no choice in that case! | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. " Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug." Are ‘the public’ irate, or is it a small section of the public, who often have previous convictions for violence, domestic or otherwise, who are irate? | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug." Not all are irate, some are yes but the reasons behind that is with some of them an 'opportunity, a sick justification' to target people of colour usually because someone on social media tugs their chains.. People on social media with multiple convictions and previous for such things, even when the families of the victims plead that the cruel loss of their loved ones isnt hijacked and used by anyone to attack other innocent people.. And some of the public and lets be brutally honest its again people of colour or Muslims who lock their doors, close their businesses and live in complete fear when they are as outraged by the loss of a life.. | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Are ‘the public’ irate, or is it a small section of the public, who often have previous convictions for violence, domestic or otherwise, who are irate?" I would suggest a large portion of the public are irate | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Not all are irate, some are yes but the reasons behind that is with some of them an 'opportunity, a sick justification' to target people of colour usually because someone on social media tugs their chains.. People on social media with multiple convictions and previous for such things, even when the families of the victims plead that the cruel loss of their loved ones isnt hijacked and used by anyone to attack other innocent people.. And some of the public and lets be brutally honest its again people of colour or Muslims who lock their doors, close their businesses and live in complete fear when they are as outraged by the loss of a life.. " We have the exact same thing going on in ireland. A large part of the public are becoming increasingly irate at the level of migrant crime that is more and more evident, almost on a daily basis now. | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Not all are irate, some are yes but the reasons behind that is with some of them an 'opportunity, a sick justification' to target people of colour usually because someone on social media tugs their chains.. People on social media with multiple convictions and previous for such things, even when the families of the victims plead that the cruel loss of their loved ones isnt hijacked and used by anyone to attack other innocent people.. And some of the public and lets be brutally honest its again people of colour or Muslims who lock their doors, close their businesses and live in complete fear when they are as outraged by the loss of a life.. We have the exact same thing going on in ireland. A large part of the public are becoming increasingly irate at the level of migrant crime that is more and more evident, almost on a daily basis now." And the hypocrisy of the same people who dont riot, who dont target innocent members of the community when a crime is carried out is conveniently ignored.. Last year there were three groups all white people convicted rightly so for ab#sing young females many under age and guess what.. Not a squeak from the usual suspects whose sole aim seems to be to incite hatred, division and to target none white people in our communities if the alleged perpetrators are none white.. The sheer stupidity of those who think yeah lets put a police officer in hospital as that will do something positive because vile scumbags dog whistle and they come ..  | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Are ‘the public’ irate, or is it a small section of the public, who often have previous convictions for violence, domestic or otherwise, who are irate? I would suggest a large portion of the public are irate" I think the majority of people want peace and don't want further agitation of a fragile society. They want people to calm down and behave responsibly and with respect for others and the peace | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Not all are irate, some are yes but the reasons behind that is with some of them an 'opportunity, a sick justification' to target people of colour usually because someone on social media tugs their chains.. People on social media with multiple convictions and previous for such things, even when the families of the victims plead that the cruel loss of their loved ones isnt hijacked and used by anyone to attack other innocent people.. And some of the public and lets be brutally honest its again people of colour or Muslims who lock their doors, close their businesses and live in complete fear when they are as outraged by the loss of a life.. We have the exact same thing going on in ireland. A large part of the public are becoming increasingly irate at the level of migrant crime that is more and more evident, almost on a daily basis now. And the hypocrisy of the same people who dont riot, who dont target innocent members of the community when a crime is carried out is conveniently ignored.. Last year there were three groups all white people convicted rightly so for ab#sing young females many under age and guess what.. Not a squeak from the usual suspects whose sole aim seems to be to incite hatred, division and to target none white people in our communities if the alleged perpetrators are none white.. The sheer stupidity of those who think yeah lets put a police officer in hospital as that will do something positive because vile scumbags dog whistle and they come .. "Ah the wilfully obtuse again. 'white people commit crimes too so therefore you should be ok with importing infinite numbers of foreign criminals' | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug." I am going to come back to this…. It absolutely IS their right to withhold certain information if disclosing it at any point could prejudice any potential criminal charges. jury trial and a conviction! For example, rod liddle almost caused a mistrial into a grooming gang that had SA children by publishing information that could taint a jury! Why do you think Tommy Robinson has been warned more than once and charged with contempt of court for publishing information that could prejudice a jury! Reporting restrictions! | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. I am going to come back to this…. It absolutely IS their right to withhold certain information if disclosing it at any point could prejudice any potential criminal charges. jury trial and a conviction! For example, rod liddle almost caused a mistrial into a grooming gang that had SA children by publishing information that could taint a jury! Why do you think Tommy Robinson has been warned more than once and charged with contempt of court for publishing information that could prejudice a jury! Reporting restrictions! " It's not difficult to understand is it. | |||
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"So agree with you. Death penalty " If the justice system was infallible then maybe the death penalty could be justified. But given the history of innocent people who have been wrongfully invarcerated or put to death, only for the verdict to be overturned later, I cannot support it, no matter how heinous the crime! I would rather 100 murderers get to live in prison than 1 innocent person be put to death! | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Not all are irate, some are yes but the reasons behind that is with some of them an 'opportunity, a sick justification' to target people of colour usually because someone on social media tugs their chains.. People on social media with multiple convictions and previous for such things, even when the families of the victims plead that the cruel loss of their loved ones isnt hijacked and used by anyone to attack other innocent people.. And some of the public and lets be brutally honest its again people of colour or Muslims who lock their doors, close their businesses and live in complete fear when they are as outraged by the loss of a life.. We have the exact same thing going on in ireland. A large part of the public are becoming increasingly irate at the level of migrant crime that is more and more evident, almost on a daily basis now. And the hypocrisy of the same people who dont riot, who dont target innocent members of the community when a crime is carried out is conveniently ignored.. Last year there were three groups all white people convicted rightly so for ab#sing young females many under age and guess what.. Not a squeak from the usual suspects whose sole aim seems to be to incite hatred, division and to target none white people in our communities if the alleged perpetrators are none white.. The sheer stupidity of those who think yeah lets put a police officer in hospital as that will do something positive because vile scumbags dog whistle and they come ..
Ah the wilfully obtuse again.
'white people commit crimes too so therefore you should be ok with importing infinite numbers of foreign criminals'
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. I am going to come back to this…. It absolutely IS their right to withhold certain information if disclosing it at any point could prejudice any potential criminal charges. jury trial and a conviction! For example, rod liddle almost caused a mistrial into a grooming gang that had SA children by publishing information that could taint a jury! Why do you think Tommy Robinson has been warned more than once and charged with contempt of court for publishing information that could prejudice a jury! Reporting restrictions! " How is disclosing someones race going to prejudice a criminal charge? If that were the case, then why are they happy to release the race when the person is white? | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. I am going to come back to this…. It absolutely IS their right to withhold certain information if disclosing it at any point could prejudice any potential criminal charges. jury trial and a conviction! For example, rod liddle almost caused a mistrial into a grooming gang that had SA children by publishing information that could taint a jury! Why do you think Tommy Robinson has been warned more than once and charged with contempt of court for publishing information that could prejudice a jury! Reporting restrictions! It's not difficult to understand is it. " So disclosing race when suspect is white = ok Disclosing race when suspect is non white = not ok Yes, that is extremely hard to understand im afraid. Perhaps you could explain it to me? | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. I am going to come back to this…. It absolutely IS their right to withhold certain information if disclosing it at any point could prejudice any potential criminal charges. jury trial and a conviction! For example, rod liddle almost caused a mistrial into a grooming gang that had SA children by publishing information that could taint a jury! Why do you think Tommy Robinson has been warned more than once and charged with contempt of court for publishing information that could prejudice a jury! Reporting restrictions! It's not difficult to understand is it. So disclosing race when suspect is white = ok Disclosing race when suspect is non white = not ok Yes, that is extremely hard to understand im afraid. Perhaps you could explain it to me?" They do disclose race when the suspect is not white. I refer you to the November 2025 train stabbing as an example | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. Are ‘the public’ irate, or is it a small section of the public, who often have previous convictions for violence, domestic or otherwise, who are irate? I would suggest a large portion of the public are irate" How have you come to that conclusion? | |||
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"Typically a person has to be charged in 4 days or let go. Guessing classing it as terrorism is to give them more time to gather evidence." Yes and no… You normally get 48hr to be charged.. but you can then apply to judge to get another 48hr extension, however law applying to terrorism related offences are different So what they did is arrest him, use that 48 hr, technically “release” him, but re arrest him straight away under terror offences of which they are allowed to hold him for up to 7 days to either charge or release | |||
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"Prosecutors in court this morning say she was hit in the head 21 times with a hammer
Fucking hell"Fuck the court, hand him over to Ukraine for front line. | |||
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"Prosecutors in court this morning say she was hit in the head 21 times with a hammer
Fucking hell"The poor woman. I hope she quickly lost consciousness | |||
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"Prosecutors in court this morning say she was hit in the head 21 times with a hammer
Fucking hell
The poor woman. I hope she quickly lost consciousness "It's horrible, I hope she didn't suffer | |||
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"Prosecutors in court this morning say she was hit in the head 21 times with a hammer
Fucking hell"To be that hard-hearted and depraved to do that to someone… | |||
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"It's a minefield for police. Not least because the minute a suspect is identified as "ethnic" innocent people get targeted, windows smashed, homes threatened with moss in the street etc. If people could behave themselves then the police could be more open. Its not their job to police information or decide what the public should and shouldnt know. If the public are irate every time an instance of migrant crime occurs, then the question should be why that is. Not just sweep it under the rug. I am going to come back to this…. It absolutely IS their right to withhold certain information if disclosing it at any point could prejudice any potential criminal charges. jury trial and a conviction! For example, rod liddle almost caused a mistrial into a grooming gang that had SA children by publishing information that could taint a jury! Why do you think Tommy Robinson has been warned more than once and charged with contempt of court for publishing information that could prejudice a jury! Reporting restrictions! It's not difficult to understand is it. So disclosing race when suspect is white = ok Disclosing race when suspect is non white = not ok Yes, that is extremely hard to understand im afraid. Perhaps you could explain it to me?" It can’t be explained… It just is. It just hits different when the perpetrators/victims are or aren’t white, black or brown. Two-tier system? Of course not…  | |||
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"I think it's pretty crass and insensitive letting this out into public, I'm sure her family are still processing her death, I can't recall such details being released this soon for a high profile murder investigation. " Wasn’t it reported as part of the standard trial proceedings? It is usual to give some overview of the crime and its gravity so the judge can initially size the situation up. | |||
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"I think it's pretty crass and insensitive letting this out into public, I'm sure her family are still processing her death, I can't recall such details being released this soon for a high profile murder investigation. " How can it be crass or insensitive? For the past four years, we’ve had vivid images of people bombed out of their homes in Ukraine all over our TVs. We’ve seen pictures of children with their arms and legs blown off, amputees and starving people holding begging bowls in Gaza, and mutilated bodies in Israel. There’s been no pictures released of the deceased fatal injuries | |||
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"Prosecutors in court this morning say she was hit in the head 21 times with a hammer
Fucking hell
To be that hard-hearted and depraved to do that to someone…"I think there might be more if the rumors around here are anywhere near the truth | |||
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"So the (alleged) murderer is seen entering the house after his car is seen outside. He's apparently seen on cctv actually carrying out this barbaric murder. My question is, why is it going to be 11 months before a trial?? " Indeed Palestine action were sentenced the next day. | |||
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"So the (alleged) murderer is seen entering the house after his car is seen outside. He's apparently seen on cctv actually carrying out this barbaric murder. My question is, why is it going to be 11 months before a trial?? " Cuts to funding, the pandemic and other pressures, have led to the regular delays in courts in England, which will be the key factors slowing it down. There's also been limited information released to the public, though terrorism was mentioned. There may still be lots of research to be done, on a very complex case, with specialist resources. | |||
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"So the (alleged) murderer is seen entering the house after his car is seen outside. He's apparently seen on cctv actually carrying out this barbaric murder. My question is, why is it going to be 11 months before a trial?? Indeed Palestine action were sentenced the next day. " Are you serious ? Go and look the case up then come back -but hey your narrative is clear by your postings - I assume you are taking a few of them into your home ? No thought not . | |||
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"It's reported that a camera in Widdecombes home caught the underground asking her for her bank card or ID before hitting her with a hammer. Sounds like they took issue with her precious comments about ladies toilets being only for women. This is what society is now. Grown men attacking little old ladies because they don't want tonuse the same public toilets as men. Bring back asylums and borstal for the insane." No mate, bring back capital punishment!! | |||
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