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"Is making an announcement at 2pm today about his "future in public life"" He has done this before…. And that time he said he was stepping down from ukip I think he is bolting it for the us and that why it stops any investigations | |||
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"Ooh.. he is going to try and style this out… Trying to get out in front of this He is going to try and claim “victim”" Its what his 'investors' want.. | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct This.. Slippery fucker " | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct " Yep, pre emptive. He was going to get suspended, which would have resulted in the electorate triggering a by election. The optics of him triggering it will play more to his supporters than the investigation, suspension and triggering by the electorate. | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct Yep, pre emptive. He was going to get suspended, which would have resulted in the electorate triggering a by election. The optics of him triggering it will play more to his supporters than the investigation, suspension and triggering by the electorate. " I don't understand his thinking. If he wins, what's to stop the commissioner coming back at him again? | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct Yep, pre emptive. He was going to get suspended, which would have resulted in the electorate triggering a by election. The optics of him triggering it will play more to his supporters than the investigation, suspension and triggering by the electorate. I don't understand his thinking. If he wins, what's to stop the commissioner coming back at him again?" I don't know, maybe this somehow gets around it. Or maybe he uses the campaign to stoke up more division and hatred. Scorched Earth campaign. | |||
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"He's not been seen in Clacton for two years, they might want someone who actually does something for them. Has he badly misjudged this?" He is going for "The establishment are trying to bring me down. But the people are on my side" narrative. As the meme says - "It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em" | |||
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"He's not been seen in Clacton for two years, they might want someone who actually does something for them. Has he badly misjudged this? He is going for "The establishment are trying to bring me down. But the people are on my side" narrative. As the meme says - "It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em"" Straight out the Trump playbook | |||
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"He's not been seen in Clacton for two years, they might want someone who actually does something for them. Has he badly misjudged this? He is going for "The establishment are trying to bring me down. But the people are on my side" narrative. As the meme says - "It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em"" His chances are high at pulling off a win in a by-election, his haters are worth high % of influence on his voters. They’re the same type of people who helped Trump, they can’t keep to facts and their emotional outbursts fuel his supporters determination to support him. | |||
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"the parliamentary investigation is now paused ..... if he does manage to get re-elected then the investigation will resume with a potential 10+ day suspension and a recall for a further by-election." If he wins this by-election what would be the point of suspending him to force another by-election when he would logically win that too. He has taken a gamble | |||
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"Is making an announcement at 2pm today about his "future in public life" He has done this before…. And that time he said he was stepping down from ukip I think he is bolting it for the us and that why it stops any investigations" How wrong you are. | |||
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"the parliamentary investigation is now paused ..... if he does manage to get re-elected then the investigation will resume with a potential 10+ day suspension and a recall for a further by-election. If he wins this by-election what would be the point of suspending him to force another by-election when he would logically win that too. He has taken a gamble" Gets my vote | |||
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"the parliamentary investigation is now paused ..... if he does manage to get re-elected then the investigation will resume with a potential 10+ day suspension and a recall for a further by-election. If he wins this by-election what would be the point of suspending him to force another by-election when he would logically win that too. He has taken a gamble" Which is why I don’t think any party is going to run a candidate against him this time round… and show it up for the stunt that it is! | |||
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"He is a slimy grifter but the muppets will still vote for him despite him doing absolute bugger all for his constituency. " You call people who vote for him muppets! How many votes have you ever got? Have you achieved more than Nigel? | |||
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"the parliamentary investigation is now paused ..... if he does manage to get re-elected then the investigation will resume with a potential 10+ day suspension and a recall for a further by-election. If he wins this by-election what would be the point of suspending him to force another by-election when he would logically win that too. He has taken a gamble" do you think that an attempt to silence those that would like to scrutinise farages political corruption by the metropolitan elite is legitimate? | |||
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"the parliamentary investigation is now paused ..... if he does manage to get re-elected then the investigation will resume with a potential 10+ day suspension and a recall for a further by-election. If he wins this by-election what would be the point of suspending him to force another by-election when he would logically win that too. He has taken a gamble Gets my vote " you don't live in clacton chap, so no he certainly doesn't get your vote | |||
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"the parliamentary investigation is now paused ..... if he does manage to get re-elected then the investigation will resume with a potential 10+ day suspension and a recall for a further by-election. If he wins this by-election what would be the point of suspending him to force another by-election when he would logically win that too. He has taken a gamble Gets my vote you don't live in clacton chap, so no he certainly doesn't get your vote Never Presume when you have no idea. | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct " No from what the BBC said it does not go away and will resume should he win the by election. Seems it may not be many if any standing against him including Restore who have said they won't stand. I suspect he will spin it to say the other parties were to scared to stand against him incase they lost | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct No from what the BBC said it does not go away and will resume should he win the by election. Seems it may not be many if any standing against him including Restore who have said they won't stand. I suspect he will spin it to say the other parties were to scared to stand against him incase they lost" And he will be correct, they will be too Scared. Today's politicians are a joke and full of woke, tree hugging individual's We need a complete UK Election right now to get rid of the Labour Party who cannot even defend the UK and arm our troops. The UK is following in the footsteps of Sweden and will very shortly have the same drugs consumption, and surging gang violence fueled by lucrative drug markets. Immigrants flooded Sweden and Turf wars between gangs continue to escalate. The UK is following and Labour are too wimp to do anything. Vote Farage vote for a better UK | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do " I'm not sure what the no shows will achieve, Farage will be elected. Handing him a suspension of 14 days or over, brings us back to square 1 with even more ammunition handed to Farage that he will use to show how he is being bullied by the system and the costs of running another by-election will be front and centre. | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct No from what the BBC said it does not go away and will resume should he win the by election. Seems it may not be many if any standing against him including Restore who have said they won't stand. I suspect he will spin it to say the other parties were to scared to stand against him incase they lost And he will be correct, they will be too Scared. Today's politicians are a joke and full of woke, tree hugging individual's We need a complete UK Election right now to get rid of the Labour Party who cannot even defend the UK and arm our troops. The UK is following in the footsteps of Sweden and will very shortly have the same drugs consumption, and surging gang violence fueled by lucrative drug markets. Immigrants flooded Sweden and Turf wars between gangs continue to escalate. The UK is following and Labour are too wimp to do anything. Vote Farage vote for a better UK " You do know it’s not just the 5 million “gift” he is being investigated for… but 17 other cases of not declaring estimated to be worth £385,000 1 or 2 might be considered a minor slip……. I think 17 is a “pattern” Plus he has previous for this when he was found guilty of not declaring when he was an MEP in the EU parliament…. But you keep flooding the thread with the reform talk points like you are trying to preform a Jedi mind trick | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do I'm not sure what the no shows will achieve, Farage will be elected. Handing him a suspension of 14 days or over, brings us back to square 1 with even more ammunition handed to Farage that he will use to show how he is being bullied by the system and the costs of running another by-election will be front and centre." Pulling a by election stunt, costing taxpayers about a quarter of a million to try and get ahead of a guilty verdict and a recall petition.. He did the same thing when we first learned about the 5 million gift.. guardian were going to out him, he asked for 2 days to reply, and then ran to the telegraph to give his side of the story first It a trying to control the narrative and get ahead of the story tactic | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do " Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now " What happens if no one runs against him in the attempted distraction, I mean by election? | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now What happens if no one runs against him in the attempted distraction, I mean by election?" He would just run unopposed in the by election… they will have had to spend all that taxpayers money on a stunt, by he doesn’t get his pre validation | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now What happens if no one runs against him in the attempted distraction, I mean by election? He would just run unopposed in the by election… they will have had to spend all that taxpayers money on a stunt, by he doesn’t get his pre validation " Hasn’t he said his crypto friends, I mean Reform, will pay for the by election? | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct No from what the BBC said it does not go away and will resume should he win the by election. Seems it may not be many if any standing against him including Restore who have said they won't stand. I suspect he will spin it to say the other parties were to scared to stand against him incase they lost And he will be correct, they will be too Scared. Today's politicians are a joke and full of woke, tree hugging individual's We need a complete UK Election right now to get rid of the Labour Party who cannot even defend the UK and arm our troops. The UK is following in the footsteps of Sweden and will very shortly have the same drugs consumption, and surging gang violence fueled by lucrative drug markets. Immigrants flooded Sweden and Turf wars between gangs continue to escalate. The UK is following and Labour are too wimp to do anything. Vote Farage vote for a better UK You do know it’s not just the 5 million “gift” he is being investigated for… but 17 other cases of not declaring estimated to be worth £385,000 1 or 2 might be considered a minor slip……. I think 17 is a “pattern” Plus he has previous for this when he was found guilty of not declaring when he was an MEP in the EU parliament…. But you keep flooding the thread with the reform talk points like you are trying to preform a Jedi mind trick Looking back..... your predictions for Brexit were wrong and your predictions on Trump winning in USA was wrong on both terms. Infact my predictions usually hit correct whilst many others sink fast. You have to agree that Reform will change the UK for the better and get rid of the majority of undesirable people hiding out in the UK. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is probably the most successsfull politician of modern times. He campaigned for the UK to leave the EU and led a very successfull campaign resulting in a win and a victory for democracy He then founded the Reform Party who are currently leading in the opinion polls. You can hardly get any greater success than that " Entirely True and Factual Many who dislike him should look at themselves in the mirror and wonder where they went wrong | |||
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"I don't understand his thinking. If he wins, what's to stop the commissioner coming back at him again?" Nothing stops the commissioner re-starting the investigation. But doing this gives him a weapon against the journalists. At the moment they all say "the public wants to know". If Farage gets about the same number of votes as he did last time he'll be able to say "It's a non-story. We've already had a by-election that showed that people don't care about this". If the commission subsequently find that he did break the rules and should be sanctioned, to his supporters it'll look like Farage is being persecuted because he's popular. | |||
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"Which is why I don’t think any party is going to run a candidate against him this time round… and show it up for the stunt that it is!" From the viewpoint of someone on the left it might make it look like a stunt, but to Farage's supporters it looks like all the other parties are scared to face him. From Farage's position it's a win-win. If he gets more votes than last time he'll be able to claim that his support has gone up. If he gets less he can say that his supporters stayed at home knowing that he'd win anyway. | |||
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"He did the same thing when we first learned about the 5 million gift.. guardian were going to out him, he asked for 2 days to reply, and then ran to the telegraph to give his side of the story first It a trying to control the narrative and get ahead of the story tactic" And you're saying that no other politician has ever done this? | |||
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"Resigned as mp to fight a by election… What that does is basically stop the parliamentary investigation into his conduct No from what the BBC said it does not go away and will resume should he win the by election. Seems it may not be many if any standing against him including Restore who have said they won't stand. I suspect he will spin it to say the other parties were to scared to stand against him incase they lost And he will be correct, they will be too Scared. Today's politicians are a joke and full of woke, tree hugging individual's We need a complete UK Election right now to get rid of the Labour Party who cannot even defend the UK and arm our troops. The UK is following in the footsteps of Sweden and will very shortly have the same drugs consumption, and surging gang violence fueled by lucrative drug markets. Immigrants flooded Sweden and Turf wars between gangs continue to escalate. The UK is following and Labour are too wimp to do anything. Vote Farage vote for a better UK You do know it’s not just the 5 million “gift” he is being investigated for… but 17 other cases of not declaring estimated to be worth £385,000 1 or 2 might be considered a minor slip……. I think 17 is a “pattern” Plus he has previous for this when he was found guilty of not declaring when he was an MEP in the EU parliament…. But you keep flooding the thread with the reform talk points like you are trying to preform a Jedi mind trick See.. that not answering anything about the 5 million and the 17 other cases.. that’s just proving the point regardless using Jedi mind tricks to deflect | |||
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"See.. that not answering anything about the 5 million and the 17 other cases.. that’s just proving the point regardless using Jedi mind tricks to deflect " The question has been answered, they were gifts that don't need declaring. Now obviously you don't believe that, while other people do. None of us have any evidence for our positions, so the only logical thing to do is wait until the Commission renders it's conclusion. I can see why you don't believe Farage's answers, but don't start claiming that no answer has been provided, because it definitely has. | |||
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"See.. that not answering anything about the 5 million and the 17 other cases.. that’s just proving the point regardless using Jedi mind tricks to deflect The question has been answered, they were gifts that don't need declaring. Now obviously you don't believe that, while other people do. None of us have any evidence for our positions, so the only logical thing to do is wait until the Commission renders it's conclusion. I can see why you don't believe Farage's answers, but don't start claiming that no answer has been provided, because it definitely has." I don't think that anyone is really disputing that these gifts were (very likely) legally, within the law. What I find surprising is that you and others appear to believe that those 'gifts" are completely innocent and have no bearing or influence on Farage's actions or future policies. You (and others) are fighting the semantics to make the point that they were legal - okay. We know that they likely were. Do you really believe that there will not be quid pro quo? | |||
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"See.. that not answering anything about the 5 million and the 17 other cases.. that’s just proving the point regardless using Jedi mind tricks to deflect The question has been answered, they were gifts that don't need declaring. Now obviously you don't believe that, while other people do. None of us have any evidence for our positions, so the only logical thing to do is wait until the Commission renders it's conclusion. I can see why you don't believe Farage's answers, but don't start claiming that no answer has been provided, because it definitely has. I don't think that anyone is really disputing that these gifts were (very likely) legally, within the law. What I find surprising is that you and others appear to believe that those 'gifts" are completely innocent and have no bearing or influence on Farage's actions or future policies. You (and others) are fighting the semantics to make the point that they were legal - okay. We know that they likely were. Do you really believe that there will not be quid pro quo?" You have highlighted the nuance in politics and opinion. Starmer took gifts, low level gifts but those gifts provided the supplier of those gifts a pass to No10. That in my opinion is no different than Farage, but people we will justify their anger at Farage and lenience towards Starmer in monitory value. The reality is Starmer gave the keys to N010 away for a pair of glasses and a tailored suit. | |||
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"given the facts the only logical conclusion that can be made is that he's obviously so petrified of what the inquiry was going to find he shit his pants and tried to dodge proceedings by resigning" That is your view of this, I see it differently. He has taken the lead head on, and it will either work for him or not. There can be zero conclusion at this point on what the commission would have concluded, so we are left with a politician who is not following the rules, bowing down to media or political pressure. That is the long and short of it, and what will happen next feels like it has fallen in Farage's favour. Could it have been different outcome, yes, but that requires the blood thirsty mob to wind it in and let process take its course, and not be driven by the media. | |||
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"I don't understand his thinking. If he wins, what's to stop the commissioner coming back at him again? Nothing stops the commissioner re-starting the investigation. But doing this gives him a weapon against the journalists. At the moment they all say "the public wants to know". If Farage gets about the same number of votes as he did last time he'll be able to say "It's a non-story. We've already had a by-election that showed that people don't care about this". If the commission subsequently find that he did break the rules and should be sanctioned, to his supporters it'll look like Farage is being persecuted because he's popular." Mind games at its best. Taking on the press is a dangerous game but yes, his supporters will be with him no matter what happens. | |||
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""The reality is Starmer gave the keys to N010 away for a pair of glasses and a tailored suit" I hardly think so..." I think you need to look into that, if you are unaware. | |||
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"So restore, Lib Dem’s, Conservative and count binface have all confirmed they will not participate Labour original suggested they would, but are now suggesting they may not Waiting on the Greens to decide what they will do Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now What happens if no one runs against him in the attempted distraction, I mean by election? He would just run unopposed in the by election… they will have had to spend all that taxpayers money on a stunt, by he doesn’t get his pre validation " I'm not in favour of a by election for this sort of situation but if it's the money that's a problem then surely it was a problem in the by election that Burnham won as the previous MP just stepped down to make way for him. | |||
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"See.. that not answering anything about the 5 million and the 17 other cases.. that’s just proving the point regardless using Jedi mind tricks to deflect" "The question has been answered, they were gifts that don't need declaring. Now obviously you don't believe that, while other people do. None of us have any evidence for our positions, so the only logical thing to do is wait until the Commission renders it's conclusion. I can see why you don't believe Farage's answers, but don't start claiming that no answer has been provided, because it definitely has." "I don't think that anyone is really disputing that these gifts were (very likely) legally, within the law. What I find surprising is that you and others appear to believe that those 'gifts" are completely innocent and have no bearing or influence on Farage's actions or future policies. You (and others) are fighting the semantics to make the point that they were legal - okay. We know that they likely were. Do you really believe that there will not be quid pro quo?" I'm not sure what I've said that's misled you, but I'm not arguing that the gifts were legal. They were, and I don't see anyone saying otherwise. This is all about whether Farage broke parliamentary rules by not declaring things. I can believe that a billionaire might give a friend £5m to help them out. If I had £1000 in my pocket and my friend said he was skint and couldn't afford lunch, I'd give him a fiver, which is the same scale of things. In fact I'd probably buy him lunch and a pint which will be a lot more than a fiver. So I think it might be possible that Farage is telling the truth. Given that it might be true, I'm going to reserve judgement and wait for the Commission's report. If they say it was fine, I'll believe them. If they say it was clearly a bribe, I'll believe that. They have more knowledge and better information than I do. So far in this thread (and the previous one) I haven't tried to argue that Farage is innocent. All I've done is pointed out where people are making stuff up, or twisting the truth to suit their own agenda. If corruption can be proved, I'll condemn him just as loudly as anyone else. But until there's proof, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. | |||
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"due process was taking it's course until he shat his pants and resigned in childish hissy fit out fear of what he knows will be uncovered." He won't be able to dodge due process if he wins the by election as the process is only suspended awaiting the result. | |||
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"given the facts the only logical conclusion that can be made is that he's obviously so petrified of what the inquiry was going to find he shit his pants and tried to dodge proceedings by resigning" Except that he's already said that he will be standing for re-election. He knows that if he's re-elected the investigation will just continue where it left off, so he knows that he can't dodge anything. If what you said above is your honest belief, you are woefully under-informed. | |||
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"due process was taking it's course until he shat his pants and resigned in childish hissy fit out fear of what he knows will be uncovered. He won't be able to dodge due process if he wins the by election as the process is only suspended awaiting the result. " aye, if he wins .... thought he was meant to be cutting wasteful spending not increasing it. | |||
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"due process was taking it's course until he shat his pants and resigned in childish hissy fit out fear of what he knows will be uncovered." The process of investigating was underway, the media and mob coverage added an element that Farage obviously felt wasn't going his way and he decided to take back some control. The negativity and attacks on Farage will play right into his hands, just like it did for Trump. | |||
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"Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now" Farage might have shot himself in the foot here. Last time he got just over 46% of the vote. If the Greens put up a candidate and everyone that hates Farage holds their nose and votes for the single opponent, he might just lose. The problem for the Greens is that they don't have a stellar record of putting up acceptable candidates, whereas Farage is a known quantity. | |||
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"due process was taking it's course until he shat his pants and resigned in childish hissy fit out fear of what he knows will be uncovered. He won't be able to dodge due process if he wins the by election as the process is only suspended awaiting the result. aye, if he wins .... thought he was meant to be cutting wasteful spending not increasing it." If he wins he certainly will face due process. If he had shat his pants and was trying to dodge the investigation then he would not personally contest the by election so the exact opposite | |||
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"Labour decides not to take part….. So just the greens now Farage might have shot himself in the foot here. Last time he got just over 46% of the vote. If the Greens put up a candidate and everyone that hates Farage holds their nose and votes for the single opponent, he might just lose. The problem for the Greens is that they don't have a stellar record of putting up acceptable candidates, whereas Farage is a known quantity." Not sure about the sentiment towards Farage in Clacton either. I understand it's considered a safe seat for him. But there was some noise about him hardly ever visiting the place after winning there. | |||
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" If he wins he certainly will face due process. " i pointed that out on this thread several hours ago .... not sure why you keep harping on about something i actually educated the forum with already | |||
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"given the facts the only logical conclusion that can be made is that he's obviously so petrified of what the inquiry was going to find he shit his pants and tried to dodge proceedings by resigning Except that he's already said that he will be standing for re-election. He knows that if he's re-elected the investigation will just continue where it left off, so he knows that he can't dodge anything. If what you said above is your honest belief, you are woefully under-informed." But I bet he will then try to say some form of “the people of clacton knew about the investigation and they still elected me… so a 2nd by election is just the establishment stitching me up “ He is trying to have the by election before the result of the investigation is known, because that would probably be worse | |||
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"Not sure about the sentiment towards Farage in Clacton either. I understand it's considered a safe seat for him. But there was some noise about him hardly ever visiting the place after winning there." There's certainly a lot of people that complain that Farage never visits Clacton, but from what I can see they all seem to be supporters of other parties. I've not yet heard of anyone that voted for Farage complaining that he's away too much. | |||
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"It's be nice if an MP put forward a Private Member's Bill to outlaw any form of "gifts" to MP's. As long as gifts exist, there will always be accusations of corruption. If I was an MP, I would certainly campaign on this issue. I'd also campaign on making all MP's publicly publish their finances every year. And I'd set up a Probity Office to randomly vet MP's. I want "squeaky clean" politics and MP's. Those that cannot abide by this are not fit to govern." I think this is one of those ideas that sounds great as a sound bite but fails in the real world. “Publish their finances” is one of those terms that holds all sorts of issues. If it simply means those finances related to public life then Farage will claim that his crypto donations don’t fall into that category. In fact that is exactly what he is claiming. If it is all of a persons finances then I can’t see anyone remotely credible standing as an MP if all their banking details would be made public. No one is squeaky clean. A rule I would like to see is if someone resigns as an MP during a parliament and causes a by election then they forfeit the ability to ever become an MP or go to the Lords again. | |||
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" I think this is one of those ideas that sounds great as a sound bite but fails in the real world." It only fails if people do not support it. Why would people not support it ? Because they are not prepared to hold themselves to a higher standard. They might mention privacy and other assorted impediments, but fundamentally it's about rigorous standards and holding yourself to them. . The general public as a general rule should demand more and expect more from those who govern us. | |||
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"The so called investigation is an example of law fare the use of the law to go after your opponents oh they are far right typical communist propaganda by communists the Labour Party has corrupted the police we do indeed have two tier policing policies " Someone's let Grandad get hold of a phone again. In other news, come on Count Binface, you're the hero we need right now. | |||
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"Labour has spent 4.9 billion pounds on the illegal migrants public debt is growing at £4000 a second the country is going bust the Labour and Conservative parties have totally failed the Labour Party has corrupted all Britain’s institutions " And they say kids should be banned from social media. Just imagine the batshittery of this persons Facebook feed 😂 | |||
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"There is a trial of a Labour Mp in the Scottish Parliament coming up soon for putting a camera in a woman’s toilet I bet that will not be commented on " Probably not in this thread.. because this thread is about Nigel Farage! But feel free to start a different one! Your posts here have been the worse nonsensical hijack attempt I have seen in a long time…it’s deflection overload it not even Jedi mind tricks, it’s… oooh look over here… and there.. and there… and there… but don’t look here .. nothing to see here… ooh look over there again! There is no way Farage tries to pull this if he doesn’t think the standards committee will get him.. and tried to claim victimhood for him for about daughter when she had no link with the property (which is now a massive own goal because we now know he owns 5 homes, which we didn’t before because we knew he had 2, and the other 3 had not been declared which he is supposed to do!) The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! We know he can use the members book of interests when it suits him, because even though he hasn’t turned up for the last 78 votes in the House of Commons, his outside earnings in the last year put him 2nd highest only below rishi Sunak, and rishi is so rich he actually gives it all away to charity! The comparison here is Boris Johnson who tried to weasel out of a standards investigation by resigning his seat after the election, but instead they continued it and the result would have been a 90 day ban if he had continued being an mp! And remember.. Farage was the one mocking Starmer for not declaring his sunglasses! | |||
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"When Reform wins the next election perhaps they can go and live in North Korea or China before you criticise the Reform party look at the Jew hating Green Party the friend of Hamas" Wow. Is everything OK at home mate? | |||
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"There is a trial of a Labour Mp in the Scottish Parliament coming up soon for putting a camera in a woman’s toilet I bet that will not be commented on Probably not in this thread.. because this thread is about Nigel Farage! But feel free to start a different one! Your posts here have been the worse nonsensical hijack attempt I have seen in a long time…it’s deflection overload it not even Jedi mind tricks, it’s… oooh look over here… and there.. and there… and there… but don’t look here .. nothing to see here… ooh look over there again! There is no way Farage tries to pull this if he doesn’t think the standards committee will get him.. and tried to claim victimhood for him for about daughter when she had no link with the property (which is now a massive own goal because we now know he owns 5 homes, which we didn’t before because we knew he had 2, and the other 3 had not been declared which he is supposed to do!) The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! We know he can use the members book of interests when it suits him, because even though he hasn’t turned up for the last 78 votes in the House of Commons, his outside earnings in the last year put him 2nd highest only below rishi Sunak, and rishi is so rich he actually gives it all away to charity! The comparison here is Boris Johnson who tried to weasel out of a standards investigation by resigning his seat after the election, but instead they continued it and the result would have been a 90 day ban if he had continued being an mp! And remember.. Farage was the one mocking Starmer for not declaring his sunglasses! " It's so comical that there is so much ENVY on this post, ohhh how the poor resent the rich 😂🤣😂 | |||
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"This will be old news in less than two weeks Team Andy coming to save the country " Probably preferable to autocrat Nigel! | |||
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"There is a trial of a Labour Mp in the Scottish Parliament coming up soon for putting a camera in a woman’s toilet I bet that will not be commented on Probably not in this thread.. because this thread is about Nigel Farage! But feel free to start a different one! Your posts here have been the worse nonsensical hijack attempt I have seen in a long time…it’s deflection overload it not even Jedi mind tricks, it’s… oooh look over here… and there.. and there… and there… but don’t look here .. nothing to see here… ooh look over there again! There is no way Farage tries to pull this if he doesn’t think the standards committee will get him.. and tried to claim victimhood for him for about daughter when she had no link with the property (which is now a massive own goal because we now know he owns 5 homes, which we didn’t before because we knew he had 2, and the other 3 had not been declared which he is supposed to do!) The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! We know he can use the members book of interests when it suits him, because even though he hasn’t turned up for the last 78 votes in the House of Commons, his outside earnings in the last year put him 2nd highest only below rishi Sunak, and rishi is so rich he actually gives it all away to charity! The comparison here is Boris Johnson who tried to weasel out of a standards investigation by resigning his seat after the election, but instead they continued it and the result would have been a 90 day ban if he had continued being an mp! And remember.. Farage was the one mocking Starmer for not declaring his sunglasses! It's so comical that there is so much ENVY on this post, ohhh how the poor resent the rich 😂🤣😂" The rich will be fine, they have plenty of useful idiots to defend them. | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown." Tactical voting could send a bigger message | |||
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" Probably not in this thread.. because this thread is about Nigel Farage! But feel free to start a different one! Your posts here have been the worse nonsensical hijack attempt I have seen in a long time…it’s deflection overload it not even Jedi mind tricks, it’s… oooh look over here… and there.. and there… and there… but don’t look here .. nothing to see here… ooh look over there again! There is no way Farage tries to pull this if he doesn’t think the standards committee will get him.. and tried to claim victimhood for him for about daughter when she had no link with the property (which is now a massive own goal because we now know he owns 5 homes, which we didn’t before because we knew he had 2, and the other 3 had not been declared which he is supposed to do!) The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! We know he can use the members book of interests when it suits him, because even though he hasn’t turned up for the last 78 votes in the House of Commons, his outside earnings in the last year put him 2nd highest only below rishi Sunak, and rishi is so rich he actually gives it all away to charity! The comparison here is Boris Johnson who tried to weasel out of a standards investigation by resigning his seat after the election, but instead they continued it and the result would have been a 90 day ban if he had continued being an mp! And remember.. Farage was the one mocking Starmer for not declaring his sunglasses! It's so comical that there is so much ENVY on this post, ohhh how the poor resent the rich 😂🤣😂" Out of all of that you got “envy” … and resenting the rich! I mean..and I thought I was not very good with picking up signs and reading signals | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message I mean… technically… wouldn’t you have to give equal coverage! | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message Not even Farage is narcissistic enough to do that, surely? | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message The fact that binface was on bbc breakfast and the today programme this morning shows the brilliance of equal time… I look forward to seeing him on GB news! | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message I read that Count Binface wants to discuss his policy on the price of Cadbury 99 flakes . Holding the price to 99 pence apparently. It will be interesting to see Farage debating with his opponents in the election he called . | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message Free Clacton from its never there so called representative.. Vote Binface.. | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message Well if he doesn't it just shows he's scared lol.. | |||
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"Genuinely, I can’t wait to watch Farage up there on stage next to Count Binface, talking about how it’s him against the elite. It’s going to be absolutely hilarious, and he’s going to look ridiculous. The other parties have played a blinder here, Farage wants to play the martyr, but he’s going to look like a clown. Tactical voting could send a bigger message Ah but if Binface wins who will buy him a house in Clacton? | |||
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" I mean… technically… wouldn’t you have to give equal coverage! Clacton might be “poor Essex” but that’s still bloody expensive… I’d chip in for a caravan or a chalet at the holiday park!!! | |||
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"If it is a head to lid contest imagine the depth and scale of the Great British talent for satire.. Stickers on every bin, saying vote for me.. Or I'm not funded by criminals and multi millionaires in far off countries.. I don’t think Farage’s fanboys realise quite how ridiculous he is going to look. | |||
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"If it is a head to lid contest imagine the depth and scale of the Great British talent for satire.. Stickers on every bin, saying vote for me.. Or I'm not funded by criminals and multi millionaires in far off countries.. Cunning plan.. Apparently Lawrence fox is standing too.. A debate would be hilarious.. | |||
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"Looks like a massive miscalculation by Farage here. He should have just let the investigations continue. It would be interesting to see its impact in his support. If he does lose support, the biggest winner here will probably be Rupert Lowe." He has changed the narrative slightly but the core issue isnt going away till the ruling is published and whatever sanction he might get is revealed.. The questions dont go away and there are reform voters who dont like what they've been hearing about crypto, billion money and the convicted fella.. He will be asked and some may conclude for all his man of the people likes a pint etc front he's just like the very establishment he rails against.. | |||
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"The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! Given that this is the same bank that unlawfully closed his account to avoid reputational damage, and then lied about it to the regulator, maybe their actions should be viewed with a little more suspicion." ..and we now appear to have more banks releasing details of other unexplained donations to other members of Reform raising suspicion of money laundering. Yet ..his supporters still insist that the band plays on even though Reform (and it's commandant) is listing badly... | |||
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"What candidates are being put up by other parties for this by election. Or are they chicken? " No, they’re going to watch Nige humiliate himself. What’s that old maxim ‘When your opponent is humiliating himself to try and distract people from all the money crypto billionaires have paid him, let him debate Count Binface’ | |||
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"The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all!" "Given that this is the same bank that unlawfully closed his account to avoid reputational damage, and then lied about it to the regulator, maybe their actions should be viewed with a little more suspicion." "..and we now appear to have more banks releasing details of other unexplained donations to other members of Reform raising suspicion of money laundering." That seems very unlikely given that releasing an individual's financial information is in contradiction to several laws. But I'm always happy to be educated. Do you have any sources that you could point us to? | |||
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"The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! Given that this is the same bank that unlawfully closed his account to avoid reputational damage, and then lied about it to the regulator, maybe their actions should be viewed with a little more suspicion. ..and we now appear to have more banks releasing details of other unexplained donations to other members of Reform raising suspicion of money laundering. That seems very unlikely given that releasing an individual's financial information is in contradiction to several laws. But I'm always happy to be educated. Do you have any sources that you could point us to?" I think they're required by law to report suspicious activities that could possibly be money laundering. Tells you a lot about whats going on with the Count of dogey crypto. | |||
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"The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! Given that this is the same bank that unlawfully closed his account to avoid reputational damage, and then lied about it to the regulator, maybe their actions should be viewed with a little more suspicion. ..and we now appear to have more banks releasing details of other unexplained donations to other members of Reform raising suspicion of money laundering. That seems very unlikely given that releasing an individual's financial information is in contradiction to several laws. But I'm always happy to be educated. Do you have any sources that you could point us to?" I too would be really interested in this data breach, what's the chances it is non-fictional? | |||
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"What candidates are being put up by other parties for this by election. Or are they chicken? No, they’re going to watch Nige humiliate himself. What’s that old maxim ‘When your opponent is humiliating himself to try and distract people from all the money crypto billionaires have paid him, let him debate Count Binface’" Wrong; Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Dems and Greens are Cowards who are far too frightened to stand up against Nigel Farage. This makes me embarrassed to call myself a Conservative, as my Conservative party are showing themselves as cowards. But then the majority of political parties today are woke leftist cowards and that includes the Conservatives. | |||
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"What candidates are being put up by other parties for this by election. Or are they chicken? No, they’re going to watch Nige humiliate himself. What’s that old maxim ‘When your opponent is humiliating himself to try and distract people from all the money crypto billionaires have paid him, let him debate Count Binface’ Wrong; Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Dems and Greens are Cowards who are far too frightened to stand up against Nigel Farage. This makes me embarrassed to call myself a Conservative, as my Conservative party are showing themselves as cowards. But then the majority of political parties today are woke leftist cowards and that includes the Conservatives." You forgot to mention Restore…they’re not standing either. Never knew Rupert was a woke leftist coward but you learn some new every day. | |||
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"What candidates are being put up by other parties for this by election. Or are they chicken? No, they’re going to watch Nige humiliate himself. What’s that old maxim ‘When your opponent is humiliating himself to try and distract people from all the money crypto billionaires have paid him, let him debate Count Binface’ Wrong; Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Dems and Greens are Cowards who are far too frightened to stand up against Nigel Farage. This makes me embarrassed to call myself a Conservative, as my Conservative party are showing themselves as cowards. But then the majority of political parties today are woke leftist cowards and that includes the Conservatives." Get yourself some popcorn and watch the show, Count Binface vs The Count of Dodgy Crypto! The best comedy you will see all summer! | |||
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"The fact that his bank initially raised potential issues over the 5 million and alerted the police for potential money laundering kinda says it all! Given that this is the same bank that unlawfully closed his account to avoid reputational damage, and then lied about it to the regulator, maybe their actions should be viewed with a little more suspicion. ..and we now appear to have more banks releasing details of other unexplained donations to other members of Reform raising suspicion of money laundering. That seems very unlikely given that releasing an individual's financial information is in contradiction to several laws. But I'm always happy to be educated. Do you have any sources that you could point us to? I too would be really interested in this data breach, what's the chances it is non-fictional? " There’s a story in the Grauniad, Tice threatened an injunction and then ran off to the Telegraph to try and get a puff piece, as is the Reform way. Word is that knowing it was coming, Nige sought to get out ahead of it. Poor Nige, the walls are closing in, and using Trumpian tactics just isn’t working. | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button." I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance. | |||
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"What candidates are being put up by other parties for this by election. Or are they chicken? No, they’re going to watch Nige humiliate himself. What’s that old maxim ‘When your opponent is humiliating himself to try and distract people from all the money crypto billionaires have paid him, let him debate Count Binface’ Wrong; Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Dems and Greens are Cowards who are far too frightened to stand up against Nigel Farage. This makes me embarrassed to call myself a Conservative, as my Conservative party are showing themselves as cowards. But then the majority of political parties today are woke leftist cowards and that includes the Conservatives. You forgot to mention Restore…they’re not standing either. Never knew Rupert was a woke leftist coward but you learn some new every day. " Farage is trying to take control of the narrative, the decision to not stand against him will send a number of messages. His staunch supporters will associate it to a joint effort to close him down. Those that oppose him will see a joint effort to expose him. The extremes of support are not what is interesting, it is the voters who are normally centre tory or labour voters who voted for Reform and Farage, they are now not going to be tested and they are the people who decide an election. | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!"" "I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button." "I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance." What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"? | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button." Until about three years back, there were people here saying they block the ones who vote for the Conservatives. Now it's Reform. I promise you. You are better off being blocked by those people. I have been to some BDSM events where I have come across similar people whose entire personality is shaped around their politics and couldn't avoid bringing up Brexit or Trump into any discussion and tell us how they don't play with people on the other side of the political spectrum, like anyone cares. It's hard to have any kind of fun conversation around them because it usually means you have to strictly follow their moral code. I also occasionally come across such characters in my normal life who sever friendships if someone dares vote for a party they don't like. Again, you don't really want to be friends with them in the first place | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button." Hypocrisy in action - have you not read the memo ? Manc matress paid her tax yet? Two tier sorted out the rent boys and lord ali? Bodybags burnham ? and contracts to his Mrs and loans to a mate - Covering up of grooming gangs Tulip Siddiq - Louise Haigh - phone scam Shall I go on ? Happy to move to the libs and Ed Davy and his role re postmaters . | |||
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"Farage is trying to take control of the narrative, the decision to not stand against him will send a number of messages." With all parties acting in unison to boycott the by-election, one of those messages will be that there really is a "uniparty", with all political parties being basically the same. It might not be true, but it'll certainly look that way to the sort of people that want to see a move away from "the establishment", and will think that Farage is the only way to achieve that. | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button. I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance. What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"?" You appear to be equating race with life choices/values. Not wanting to have sex with someone because they are black is very different to not wanting to have sex with someone because their value systems are completely different. | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button. I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance. What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"? You appear to be equating race with life choices/values. Not wanting to have sex with someone because they are black is very different to not wanting to have sex with someone because their value systems are completely different." Religion is also a choice. Will you be ok with someone saying that they will block anyone belonging to a religion? | |||
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" There’s a story in the Grauniad, Tice threatened an injunction and then ran off to the Telegraph to try and get a puff piece, as is the Reform way. Word is that knowing it was coming, Nige sought to get out ahead of it. Poor Nige, the walls are closing in, and using Trumpian tactics just isn’t working." Ooh… wonder where tice got that idea from *checks notes * the guardian asked Farage for comment on the five million… asks for two days to respond… runs to the telegraph for his puff piece Well… have to congratulate reform for running the same play! | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button. I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance. What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"? You appear to be equating race with life choices/values. Not wanting to have sex with someone because they are black is very different to not wanting to have sex with someone because their value systems are completely different. Religion is also a choice. Will you be ok with someone saying that they will block anyone belonging to a religion?" I’m an atheist, I won’t be fucking any god botherers if I can help it, regardless of which sky wizard they worship. It’s only ever right wingers who complain that people don’t want to fuck them because of their values, why do you think that is? | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!"" "I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button." "I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance." "What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"?" "You appear to be equating race with life choices/values. Not wanting to have sex with someone because they are black is very different to not wanting to have sex with someone because their value systems are completely different." What would you call it if someone said "there are quite a few working class people on here, please don't contact us"? | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!" I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button. I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance. What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"? You appear to be equating race with life choices/values. Not wanting to have sex with someone because they are black is very different to not wanting to have sex with someone because their value systems are completely different. Religion is also a choice. Will you be ok with someone saying that they will block anyone belonging to a religion? I’m an atheist, I won’t be fucking any god botherers if I can help it, regardless of which sky wizard they worship. It’s only ever right wingers who complain that people don’t want to fuck them because of their values, why do you think that is?" So if someone has a profile saying, "We will not play with Muslims. Please block yourselves," you will be supportive of that and you won't call them an Islamophobe? As for me, I personally don't care if someone doesn't want to fuck a right winger. I clarified my view in a post above. Such people who base their life choices around politics are truly miserable and don't vibe with me. So such self selection doesn't bother me the least. | |||
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"There are quite a few Reform/Restore types on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already. And "Vote Binface!"" "I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. To the extent that even just posting to correct an obvious untruth gets one labelled as a "Reform spokesman" and subject to the block button." "I wouldn’t call not wanting to shag a Reform/Reatore type intolerance. What would you call it? What would you call it if someone posted "There are quite a few black people on here. Please block us - if we haven't blocked you already"?" "You appear to be equating race with life choices/values. Not wanting to have sex with someone because they are black is very different to not wanting to have sex with someone because their value systems are completely different." I agree. But we aren't talking about not wanting to have sex with someone, we're talking about someone coming into a thread purely to post that they don't like someone else. If they had "no right wing people" in their profile, I'd support that. If that sort of thing is important to you, you should say so at the beginning. But actively looking for people that you don't like and then posting a message to say publicly that you don't like them is a different action. | |||
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"I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are." It's almost like some people don't want to have sex with those that hold awful ideologies. Weird concept to grasp, I know. | |||
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"I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are." "It's almost like some people don't want to have sex with those that hold awful ideologies. Weird concept to grasp, I know." We all have the right to deny sex to people we don't like. But why come into a forum and announce it? They could have quietly blocked everyone that posted something that offended them and walked away. Why take the time to write a post telling everybody that they don't like certain people? | |||
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"I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. It's almost like some people don't want to have sex with those that hold awful ideologies. Weird concept to grasp, I know. We all have the right to deny sex to people we don't like. But why come into a forum and announce it? They could have quietly blocked everyone that posted something that offended them and walked away. Why take the time to write a post telling everybody that they don't like certain people?" This is surely getting a little off topic | |||
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"I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. It's almost like some people don't want to have sex with those that hold awful ideologies. Weird concept to grasp, I know. We all have the right to deny sex to people we don't like. But why come into a forum and announce it? They could have quietly blocked everyone that posted something that offended them and walked away. Why take the time to write a post telling everybody that they don't like certain people?" It's almost like some people are free to exercise their right to free speech in telling those with awful ideologies that they don't want to have sex with them. Weird concept to grasp, I know. | |||
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"I'm always amazed at the number of left-leaning people that come into this forum specifically to post about how intolerant they are. It's almost like some people don't want to have sex with those that hold awful ideologies. Weird concept to grasp, I know. We all have the right to deny sex to people we don't like. But why come into a forum and announce it? They could have quietly blocked everyone that posted something that offended them and walked away. Why take the time to write a post telling everybody that they don't like certain people? It's almost like some people are free to exercise their right to free speech in telling those with awful ideologies that they don't want to have sex with them. Weird concept to grasp, I know." They have the right to do so. It just comes across like some childish virtue signalling. No one gives a fuck about who you or anyone else for that matter blocks. And I have the freedom of speech to call out this silliness. | |||
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"Getting back to Farage... How on earth can the electoral system allow this rubber faced joker, or any other politician, to resign and then immediately stand again as a candidate in the by election he has just triggered? Am I missing something? " Is it very different from a Govt "going to the country" by calling a general election early, in the hope of being re elected? Same thing surely at a local level. Not taking any sides here, just my opinion. | |||
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"How on earth can the electoral system allow this rubber faced joker, or any other politician, to resign and then immediately stand again as a candidate in the by election he has just triggered?" Back in the days when politicians had honour, this is what was expected if an MP was accused of wrongdoing. They would resign to show good faith, and then offer themselves for re-election to see if the electorate still wanted them to continue. Obviously it doesn't get used that way nowadays, but there's nothing wrong with a system allowing it. | |||
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"Farage preys on the uneducated tinfoil hat brigade demographic who are vocal but clueless " This kind of comment is exactly why the country has become so divided. | |||
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"It's almost like some people are free to exercise their right to free speech in telling those with awful ideologies that they don't want to have sex with them. What "awful ideologies" have been expressed in this thread?" Why do they need to have been expressed in this thread? | |||
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"It's almost like some people are free to exercise their right to free speech in telling those with awful ideologies that they don't want to have sex with them. What "awful ideologies" have been expressed in this thread? Why do they need to have been expressed in this thread?" the point being made is very few have offered support towards Farage or championed Reforms policies, however being factual is totally misunderstood and is seen as supporting Farage, such is the level of debate at times. | |||
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"Amazing that people who don’t like being blocked because of their values and behaviour never think to look at what it is about themselves that is causing people to find them so unattractive. It’s always ‘waaaah, waaaah, they are being horrible to us.’" I don't see anyone going "waaaah". One person has made it clear that he doesn't care who blocks him. I certainly don't care if I'm blocked by those that put their emotions before their logic. No I've at all had complained about being blocked. What I find amazing is that so many people are willing to publicly state that they've banned a bunch of people based on almost no evidence. Having read through this thread again I can't find anything to indicate that any of the respondents actually supports Farage. There's one guy that says "gets my vote", but he might be talking about a specific action rather than Farage in general. I never cease to be astonished when people are so willing to polarise everything, saying "if you're not actively joining me in condemning him, you must be his supporter and therefore my enemy". | |||
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