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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 days ago

nearby

Reported the incoming prime minister is making a speech today setting out his 10 year plan to transform Britain.

Devolution to councils, raising living standards, tacking youth unemployment and economic growth appear to be the sound bites.

This all starts on 20 July.

Have we been here before ?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 days ago

couple, us we him her.

His anti London/south agenda has already started.

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By *ostindreamsMan
3 days ago

London

Like the "5-year plan" worked out well elsewhere in the world?

Anyway, this looks more like he is preparing excuses already for the end of his term. Nothing improved? It's a 10 year plan sweetie. You have to elect me again.

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By *e-OptimistMan
3 days ago

Stalybridge


"His anti London/south agenda has already started. "

As opposed to the anti North campaign run from London since the 17th century at least.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
3 days ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Like the "5-year plan" worked out well elsewhere in the world?

Anyway, this looks more like he is preparing excuses already for the end of his term. Nothing improved? It's a 10 year plan sweetie. You have to elect me again."

5 year plan, 10 year plan.

I suppose you could call it inflation.

Don't worry. Tractor production will soon be up.

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By *ostindreamsMan
3 days ago

London


"Like the "5-year plan" worked out well elsewhere in the world?

Anyway, this looks more like he is preparing excuses already for the end of his term. Nothing improved? It's a 10 year plan sweetie. You have to elect me again.

5 year plan, 10 year plan.

I suppose you could call it inflation.

Don't worry. Tractor production will soon be up. "

Potato and bread rationing coming soon

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 days ago

couple, us we him her.


"His anti London/south agenda has already started.

As opposed to the anti North campaign run from London since the 17th century at least."

But why should it be in the North?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 days ago

couple, us we him her.


"His anti London/south agenda has already started.

As opposed to the anti North campaign run from London since the 17th century at least.

But why should it be in the North?"

All the infrastructure and traditional seat of power is based in Westminster.

Would you be prepared for hundreds of billions w

Spent relocating to Manchester for what reason? Because of an inferiority complex of a northern politician !!

Leave things be concentrate on the thing's that actually matter not reinforce the north south division even more.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 days ago

couple, us we him her.


"His anti London/south agenda has already started.

As opposed to the anti North campaign run from London since the 17th century at least.

But why should it be in the North?"

All the infrastructure and traditional seat of power is based in Westminster.

Would you be prepared for hundreds of billions w

Spent relocating to Manchester for what reason? Because of an inferiority complex of a northern politician !!

Leave things be concentrate on the thing's that actually matter not reinforce the north south division even more.

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple
3 days ago

Staffordshire

Is this man for real. He actually wants us to rejoin the EU, the exact opposite of devolution, where power becomes more and more centralised and yet here he is spouting this load of nonsense. How much is this man's vanity going to cost us I wonder.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
3 days ago

Border of London

A 10-year plan is a very good, and important idea. Many companies (not enough) have a longer-term vision, but many do it poorly, because their biggest priority is the next quarter's earnings. Governments are often too focused on the immediate daggers out for them that they don't do this properly.

However, what companies usually get right is that you need to plot the big picture (with everything that entails) and then grab the "low hanging fruit" (that awful phrase) for immediate execution. Because who, really, knows what will happen in 10 years. You take concrete steps today that, while fitting into the bigger picture, will also deliver results the fastest.

No company sells themselves solely (or primarily) on their 10-year vision. Even Amazon didn't. Only speculative companies do that - the ones you keep in your portfolio even though they will very possibly fail, but you want to bet on the returns. If Andy comes in with a 10-year vision, it had better be an amazing one that delivers today AND accounts for the unknown over the next decade.

It sounds (at this point) like a preemptive excuse for failure at the next election.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 days ago

nearby


"Is this man for real. He actually wants us to rejoin the EU, the exact opposite of devolution, where power becomes more and more centralised and yet here he is spouting this load of nonsense. How much is this man's vanity going to cost us I wonder."

Probably inevitable we do at some point. The diehard brexiteers will snuff it and younger people (70% I read) want back in

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 days ago

nearby


"A 10-year plan is a very good, and important idea. Many companies (not enough) have a longer-term vision, but many do it poorly, because their biggest priority is the next quarter's earnings. Governments are often too focused on the immediate daggers out for them that they don't do this properly.

However, what companies usually get right is that you need to plot the big picture (with everything that entails) and then grab the "low hanging fruit" (that awful phrase) for immediate execution. Because who, really, knows what will happen in 10 years. You take concrete steps today that, while fitting into the bigger picture, will also deliver results the fastest.

No company sells themselves solely (or primarily) on their 10-year vision. Even Amazon didn't. Only speculative companies do that - the ones you keep in your portfolio even though they will very possibly fail, but you want to bet on the returns. If Andy comes in with a 10-year vision, it had better be an amazing one that delivers today AND accounts for the unknown over the next decade.

It sounds (at this point) like a preemptive excuse for failure at the next election."

Thought it was an upbeat speech and well delivered. (I’m not a Labour voter)

Takeaways for me were social housing and investment in prospects further young people.

Hope he doesn’t ruin in with a shedload of tax’s that piss on the economy. Milliband not a good choice.

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By *ellhungvweMan
3 days ago

Cheltenham

I am a fan of the idea of removing London’s vice like hold on power.

I do understand why the Treasury keeps tipping all the cash into the London and South East bucket because that’s where the growth is focussed. Economically it makes sense. Obviously the growth is there because London and the South East has historically been given a bucket with all the money in it. It is a virtuous circle and London has played it well.

But that circle needs to be started in other parts of the country too. The issue for Burnham is he needs to make sure he doesn’t simply do it Manchester and nowhere else.

Physically having the PM based regularly outside of London is probably the most important actual change if he were to go down this path. Access to power changes.

Ironically there is a lot in these ideas that Dominic Cummings would like around breaking the power of the civil service. I am guessing Burnham will want to not mention that bit

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By *ostindreamsMan
3 days ago

London


"A 10-year plan is a very good, and important idea. Many companies (not enough) have a longer-term vision, but many do it poorly, because their biggest priority is the next quarter's earnings. Governments are often too focused on the immediate daggers out for them that they don't do this properly.

However, what companies usually get right is that you need to plot the big picture (with everything that entails) and then grab the "low hanging fruit" (that awful phrase) for immediate execution. Because who, really, knows what will happen in 10 years. You take concrete steps today that, while fitting into the bigger picture, will also deliver results the fastest.

No company sells themselves solely (or primarily) on their 10-year vision. Even Amazon didn't. Only speculative companies do that - the ones you keep in your portfolio even though they will very possibly fail, but you want to bet on the returns. If Andy comes in with a 10-year vision, it had better be an amazing one that delivers today AND accounts for the unknown over the next decade.

It sounds (at this point) like a preemptive excuse for failure at the next election.

Thought it was an upbeat speech and well delivered. (I’m not a Labour voter)

Takeaways for me were social housing and investment in prospects further young people.

Hope he doesn’t ruin in with a shedload of tax’s that piss on the economy. Milliband not a good choice.

"

Just watched it. It was well delivered indeed. I like the idea of giving more power to local governments at a high level, which I believe is where his prime focus seems to be. And I think that is achievable.

I am just not sure about his promises about housing and manufacturing. It's one of those areas where every politician seems to promise but fail big time.

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By *obbiehMan
3 days ago

chester

Sadly same old globalist bullshit.

If the spend the next 10 years getting rid of all the foreign criminals, drug dealers, illegal overstayers, strengthen our borders, improve NHS and infrastructure i might listen, but it will not happen.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 days ago

nearby

See what he does on immigration

Five dead in Germany today at the hands of immigrant gunman

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By *otMe66Man
3 days ago

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By *otMe66Man
3 days ago

Here and there


"A 10-year plan is a very good, and important idea. Many companies (not enough) have a longer-term vision, but many do it poorly, because their biggest priority is the next quarter's earnings. Governments are often too focused on the immediate daggers out for them that they don't do this properly.

However, what companies usually get right is that you need to plot the big picture (with everything that entails) and then grab the "low hanging fruit" (that awful phrase) for immediate execution. Because who, really, knows what will happen in 10 years. You take concrete steps today that, while fitting into the bigger picture, will also deliver results the fastest.

No company sells themselves solely (or primarily) on their 10-year vision. Even Amazon didn't. Only speculative companies do that - the ones you keep in your portfolio even though they will very possibly fail, but you want to bet on the returns. If Andy comes in with a 10-year vision, it had better be an amazing one that delivers today AND accounts for the unknown over the next decade.

It sounds (at this point) like a preemptive excuse for failure at the next election.

Thought it was an upbeat speech and well delivered. (I’m not a Labour voter)

Takeaways for me were social housing and investment in prospects further young people.

Hope he doesn’t ruin in with a shedload of tax’s that piss on the economy. Milliband not a good choice.

Just watched it. It was well delivered indeed. I like the idea of giving more power to local governments at a high level, which I believe is where his prime focus seems to be. And I think that is achievable.

I am just not sure about his promises about housing and manufacturing. It's one of those areas where every politician seems to promise but fail big time."

I'm not convinced, I'm really not. He has charisma and appears to be more human, other than that I heard a far more left wing approach of grass root councils and power structures that made me feel they could be designed on an old fashioned left wing structure. The talk of building council houses when no government has managed to do this for decades, where does he think the money is coming from and when a region / town / city loses control of the finances how are they managed.

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By *eroy1000Man
3 days ago

milton keynes

I certainly preferred the positive tone of his speech compared to Starmer who stared talking the country down the moment he was elected. Some good points in the speech but talking about them and achieving them are vastly different. Not sure we need another number 10 especially if it duplicates things but just based in the north. A shame he wouldn't take questions at the end as I imagine people might like to know how he intends to do these things

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
3 days ago

Gilfach


"All the infrastructure and traditional seat of power is based in Westminster.

Would you be prepared for hundreds of billions w

Spent relocating to Manchester for what reason?"

To be fair to him, it actually makes sense.

The Palace of Westminster is falling apart and needs massive renovations. If the work has to be fitted around the MPs, it's expected to cost £40bn. If they all go somewhere else for 5 years, the cost is expected to be 'only' £15bn.

Moving everyone up north for a few years would save a lot of money, and would also give all the MPs a better appreciation of what the north has to offer.

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By *ostindreamsMan
3 days ago

London


"

I'm not convinced, I'm really not. He has charisma and appears to be more human, other than that I heard a far more left wing approach of grass root councils and power structures that made me feel they could be designed on an old fashioned left wing structure. The talk of building council houses when no government has managed to do this for decades, where does he think the money is coming from and when a region / town / city loses control of the finances how are they managed. "

I agree with your point on building council houses. But giving more power to councils isn't particularly a left wing idea. Many right libertarians support it too, as a way to improve efficiency as every town/city has different needs and people who live there locally are better equipped to make some decisions.

There are risks to it, like some councils may go completely rogue But it's still worth trying.

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By *ingpong70Man
3 days ago

Surbiton

China has 50 year plans, 100 year plans. They have staggering amounts of renewable energy because they started on it 20 years ago. Short-termism hasn't worked for us.

As for the EU, we would be insane not to get a lot closer - no amount of nylon flags on lamp-posts is going to protect us from a hostile US or China or Russia.

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